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BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID
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-Freak-
User ID: 340342
8/20/2008 12:48 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Plane was an MD87, over 20 years old. Seemingly the flight was a cooperation between Spanair and Lufthansa with a lot of German tourists heading for their vacation destination.
The left engine caught fire but speed of plane already reached V3, point of no return and skidded off the runway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 421189
It was a ex Korean MD 82 fresh from factory in nov. 1993. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433183
8/20/2008 12:54 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Flight JKK-5022 Spanair / Madrid - Las Palmas de Gran Canaria. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483065
JKK-5022 =10/11/11 -9   |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340808
8/20/2008 1:00 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
8/20/2008 1:01 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
This is EAT's fault...... |
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acolyte nli
User ID: 462356 (OP)
8/20/2008 1:17 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340808
Thank you |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 1:23 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I live in Spain and I'm watching the news here. They are saying 146 are dead 26 are in hopitals.
I have flown this airline and it was the worst plane I have ever been on. VERY unsafe I was worried and I'm a easy going flyer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488071
8/20/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
This is terrible. :(
My condolences to the families and friends of those who lost their lives. |
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Nothing Is True
User ID: 486416
8/20/2008 1:35 PM
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I live in Spain and I'm watching the news here. They are saying 146 are dead 26 are in hopitals.
I have flown this airline and it was the worst plane I have ever been on. VERY unsafe I was worried and I'm a easy going flyer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487371
I flew on Spantax once - 20 years or so ago - and that was absolutely shocking! Is this a related company do you know?
Terrible news.
Everything is permitted.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 1:51 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I live in Spain and I'm watching the news here. They are saying 146 are dead 26 are in hopitals.
I have flown this airline and it was the worst plane I have ever been on. VERY unsafe I was worried and I'm a easy going flyer.
I flew on Spantax once - 20 years or so ago - and that was absolutely shocking! Is this a related company do you know?
Terrible news. Quoting: Nothing Is True
No Spantax is a now defunct airline that was based (oddly enough) out of the Canary Islands. It went out of business in the late 80's which is I believe when Spanair came into being. But they have no relationship as far as I know |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483065
8/20/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I live in Spain and I'm watching the news here. They are saying 146 are dead 26 are in hopitals.
I have flown this airline and it was the worst plane I have ever been on. VERY unsafe I was worried and I'm a easy going flyer.
I flew on Spantax once - 20 years or so ago - and that was absolutely shocking! Is this a related company do you know?
Terrible news. Quoting: Nothing Is True
Not the same companies, Spanair began in 1986 and Spantax closed in 1988.
Anyway Spanair have financial problems and today they were discussing about firing around 50% of their employees. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483065
8/20/2008 1:56 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Deutsche Lufthansa AG regrets to announce that:
Spanair flight JK 5022 that crashed in Madrid was also a code-share flight with the flight number LH 2554. Unfortunately, Lufthansa is currently unable to confirm whether or not, or how many Lufthansa passengers were on board.
Spanair has set up a telephone hotline for family members and friends under:
+34 800 400 200 |
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Nothing Is True
User ID: 486416
8/20/2008 1:58 PM
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^^ Thanks for your answers.
Everything is permitted.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 2:01 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I live in Spain and I'm watching the news here. They are saying 146 are dead 26 are in hopitals.
I have flown this airline and it was the worst plane I have ever been on. VERY unsafe I was worried and I'm a easy going flyer.
I flew on Spantax once - 20 years or so ago - and that was absolutely shocking! Is this a related company do you know?
Terrible news.
Not the same companies, Spanair began in 1986 and Spantax closed in 1988.
Anyway Spanair have financial problems and today they were discussing about firing around 50% of their employees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483065
I find they often have the lowest prices in Spain (after Ryan Air which has a very nice fleet of planes)
After a bad bad BAD experience I had flying from Barcelona to Madrid this year I have avoided Spainair.
In fact I have a trip to Madrid next month from Italy planned and I paid MORE to use another airline because of safety concerns.
I just got the feeling they cared more about saving cost than being safe. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 197006
8/20/2008 2:04 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Latest is that right after take-off one of the engines caught fire. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483065
8/20/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Some time ago, same kind of plane in US:
American Airlines Cancels Flights To Inspect MD-80 Fleet Again To Ensure Technical Compliance With FAA Directive
FORT WORTH , Texas – American Airlines is canceling several hundred flights today to conduct additional inspections of its MD-80 fleet to ensure precise and complete compliance with the Federal Aviation Administration’s airworthiness directive related to the bundling of wires in the aircraft’s wheel wells. These inspections – based on FAA audits – are related to detailed, technical compliance issues and not safety-of-flight issues.
“We’ve been working in good faith to ensure that we are in complete compliance with this airworthiness directive,” said Gerard Arpey, Chairman and CEO of American Airlines. “We regret and apologize that we are once again causing inconvenience to our customers, but we will continue to work in good faith until we satisfy all of the technical issues related to this airworthiness directive.”
It is not known at this time how many cancellations will result, but it could be as many as 500 today. Additional cancellations are likely tomorrow.
American will re-accommodate customers on other American flights or on flights operated by airlines in the same market. Customers may be automatically notified of flight changes; they should also check AA.com or with their travel agents for flight status.
The FAA raised additional concerns regarding the recent inspection of American’s aircraft and the manner in which American followed the engineering change order (ECO) that had been written for the airworthiness directive related to the wiring in the MD-80s wheel wells. Specifically, some areas of concern included the spacing of the ties on the wiring bundle and the direction in which the retention clips and lacing cords were facing.
American has assigned teams of employees that include aviation maintenance technicians, quality assurance inspectors, and engineers to inspect the aircraft and ensure full compliance, as well as to make the necessary adjustments.
Any aircraft that does not completely comply with the detailed technical specifications of installation will be removed from service until all specifications have been met. Aircraft will return to service as they have been inspected and all necessary work completed.
Additionally, American has applied for and received FAA approvals of an alternative method of compliance (AMOC) for this airworthiness directive that has already been applied to the MD-80 fleet of other carriers.
Responder Con Cita |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
One channel in Spain is reporting 150 dead.
Another channel claims the plane did take off and crashed off the runway in a wooded area.
CNN International reported the plane did not take off. I think CNN is wrong. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 2:15 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Also they just had a clip of a SPanish man who said he missed getting on this plane by 3 minutes. Can you imagine?
Seems a story like this comes out every time. |
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-Freak-
User ID: 340342
8/20/2008 2:17 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Another channel claims the plane did take off and crashed off the runway in a wooded area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487371
Yeah that's how it happend
Map: [link to estaticos03.cache.el-mundo.net] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488199
8/20/2008 2:18 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Isn't it dark there now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472894
NO. Even now there's a bright Sun. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487371
8/20/2008 2:19 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
One channel in Spain is reporting 150 dead.
Another channel claims the plane did take off and crashed off the runway in a wooded area.
CNN International reported the plane did not take off. I think CNN is wrong.
Map: [ link to estaticos03.cache.el-mundo.net]
Channel 4 in Spain had a animated video of the accident and the plane went much further than that map shows.
Don't know... |
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meras
User ID: 488202
8/20/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
An MD82 crashed in Thailand in 2007 here are the details above. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487789
8/20/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
hell, i din't even know Mcdonald duglas planes still existed in service. Its clear that they are unsafe rust buckets and need to be taken out of service immediately. I mean the concorde was much safer in comparison!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483065
8/20/2008 2:43 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
At least in middle of tragedy there are good news, 2 babys are alive and with no serious wounds.  |
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Jew Loving Canadian
User ID: 367933
8/20/2008 2:58 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Revolting.
The heads of this airline should be publicly beaten.
[link to images.google.ca]
These hunks of crap look they they are missing two front engines. I would not get on one of these EVER. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:26 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
Revolting.
The heads of this airline should be publicly beaten.
[ link to images.google.ca]
These hunks of crap look they they are missing two front engines. I would not get on one of these EVER.
Uh, it only has two engines, both mounted on the aft section of the fuselage. They don't look very big, and the airframe could probably stand to be repowered with a little more "umpf." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258519
8/20/2008 3:30 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
this is really odd
at the very end there is a funnel cloud near the wreckage?
[link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430839
8/20/2008 3:42 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I fear this is not appropriate to say, but to get it off my chest: living in Spain as a german I say, thinking about security for spaniards is a tabu. For many years now I would never board a spanish airline. If you'd only know what I have seen here! Spain is leading in Europe in labor and construction accidents. I have seen buildings collapse because of underground constructions... These people got to change! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483065
8/20/2008 3:54 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I fear this is not appropriate to say, but to get it off my chest: living in Spain as a german I say, thinking about security for spaniards is a tabu. For many years now I would never board a spanish airline. If you'd only know what I have seen here! Spain is leading in Europe in labor and construction accidents. I have seen buildings collapse because of underground constructions... These people got to change! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430839
Look here and think, this is the worse accident in the last 20 years, before saying something so stupid.
[link to guides.limores.net]
Did you see some crane collapsing in Spain?....
Oh and btw if living in Spain its so dangerous why dont you go back to your fridge country? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487469
8/20/2008 3:56 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
El avion se disponia a despegar cuando ha sido alertado de detenerse,parecia tenia problemas de refigeracion tras una hora casi de revision,se ha permitido el despegue posteriormente,el avion a despegado y elevado casi 70 metros tras lo cual el avion ha sufrido un incendio en el motor izquierdo lo cual lo ha precipitado de panza y partido en dos trozos.Posteriormente se ha partido en numerosas partes,uno de los motores a penetrado en la cabina de los pilotos siendo la zona delantera y la trasera sobretodo la mas dañada.Se afirma que solo alrededor de 40 pasajeros habian muerto en la caida del avion y el resto hasta los 155 en estos momentos habian sufrido quemaduras hasta morir.Los heridos graves seria la gente que habia logrado salir de algunas de las partes del avion,el cual estaba cerca de un arroyo de abundante agua.
Se habla de al menos 30 niños muertos entre las victimas y solo en estos momentos 20 heridos de los cuales 12 en estado critico.
Una autentica tragedia que ha conmovido al pais entero. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430839
8/20/2008 4:14 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SPANAIR PLANE CRASH IN MADRID | Quote |
I fear this is not appropriate to say, but to get it off my chest: living in Spain as a german I say, thinking about security for spaniards is a tabu. For many years now I would never board a spanish airline. If you'd only know what I have seen here! Spain is leading in Europe in labor and construction accidents. I have seen buildings collapse because of underground constructions... These people got to change!
Look here and think, this is the worse accident in the last 20 years, before saying something so stupid.
[ link to guides.limores.net]
Did you see some crane collapsing in Spain?....
Oh and btw if living in Spain its so dangerous why dont you go back to your fridge country?
I've seen 5 crane collapse here |
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