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Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shield

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429258
8/20/2008 3:31 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

ALaska?

The Russians wouldn't waste any missiles other than to take out military installations and HAARP.

Easy move for them with ships ground troops mop up

eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.


excuse, but wtf do you think the US MILITARY is going to be doing when Russia allegedly conducts all of these operations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486993

I think he figures they'll still be in Iraq.
And he's probably right.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488116
8/20/2008 3:31 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

wahey!

3 mods on.

what's your take on this lot then lads?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488239
8/20/2008 3:32 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

what timespan are we talking about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477041



30 minutes or so,not long.
Grizzled Old Goat Subscriber
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 3:33 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

ALaska?

The Russians wouldn't waste any missiles other than to take out military installations and HAARP.

Easy move for them with ships ground troops mop up

eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


Who would be left to rule "conquered" America? Russia will be a big, smoking pit..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

Ronald Reagan
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 448887
8/20/2008 3:33 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote




eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.
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There would be no America or Russia before it ever got to that. Wake the fuck up!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486993
8/20/2008 3:34 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

ALaska?

The Russians wouldn't waste any missiles other than to take out military installations and HAARP.

Easy move for them with ships ground troops mop up

eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.


excuse, but wtf do you think the US MILITARY is going to be doing when Russia allegedly conducts all of these operations?

I think he figures they'll still be in Iraq.
And he's probably right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429258

We have a police in Iraq...albeit a large one.

We have plenty of assets remaining. plenty indeed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:35 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

For all you religious fanatics that were used to put us in this situation, I hope youre happy.
There aint gonna be no fucking rapture you idiots.
Youre gonna get fried.
NATO is the judeo-christian alliance, and it is being used to play out the script that is judeo christian prophecy.
Its too late to turn back now, and I cannot see Russia being able to engage NATO in a conventional war, so this will probably go nuclear if it blows up. It seems to me this has gone way beyond sabre rattling.

Kennedy almost went to war over the same thing when the Russians did this to us in Cuba, why should Russia react differently to 'our' aggressive provocations?

You should all be preparing now for the possibility of strategic nuclear war. I mean NOW. Russia does not have the conventional forces to resist a NATO attack.

I am in an area that will be laid waste in the event of such an exchange, Barkesdale airforce base is 45 miles to the SE and Red River army depot is 15 miles to the north.
Sounds like I'll be heading for the hills soon.
 Quoting: IDW 488189


Ah yes, the hills. What a splendid location to be in an atmospheric detonation nuclear blast!!
dalak
User ID: 487531
8/20/2008 3:36 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

 Quoting: Kanigo2

and that was all they wrote. to me, seems pretty ominous. i know it's true that the non barking dog is more dangerous than the loudly barking one. same with people.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380553
8/20/2008 3:36 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

Wait, are we planning a first strike?
Better start your list with
WDC,
Groton, CT
King's Bay, GA
Bremerton, WA
Knob Noster, MO
Charleston Naval Weapons Station, SC
Minot ND
Ellsworth AFB
Barksdale AFB
Elmendorf AFB
Norfolk, VA
San Diego, CA . . .

in short, if there is a nuclear weapon in it or a nuclear weapon serviced from it or a nuclear weapon commanded from it it's on a first strike list.

Any other target depends on the overall strategy.


What? No New Jersey? I feel left out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380168

That's what the ellipses are for. I don't know what you've got besides Dix and McGuire. Assuming they're even open.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486951
8/20/2008 3:38 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

will they make good on the threat to nuke poland?
dalak
User ID: 487531
8/20/2008 3:38 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

None of this sabre-rattling is any good.


The two countries are acting like children!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488071

i don't think you can apply the sabre rattling cliche' to this one. they do not have the american mindset, and you do not understand their culture. he means business.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487519
8/20/2008 3:39 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

Well if it means war....then its war. Now you guys have to understand. WW3 doesnt mean dooms day. They thought the same during WW2. Personally, I think war is eminent and I dont think it will be a bad thing.
The reason we need this shield is because of Russias new rocket. I dont remember what its called but someone here posted about it. It is the fastest thing on earth. The worlds only deterrent is to nail it as it takes off.
So, If Russia is set to go to war because we are trying to protect the world from possible total destruction...then so be it.


i agree. something has changed here. one or both sides now believe they can take the other side out without major loss themselves.

this is getting hairy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488116


the implosion bomb wasn't it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487908
8/20/2008 3:39 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

excuse, but wtf do you think the US MILITARY is going to be doing when Russia allegedly conducts all of these operations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486993


Probably eating Iraqi dates in Iraq, and harvesting heroin in Afghanistan.

:'D
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:39 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

Wait, are we planning a first strike?
Better start your list with
WDC,
Groton, CT
King's Bay, GA
Bremerton, WA
Knob Noster, MO
Charleston Naval Weapons Station, SC
Minot ND
Ellsworth AFB
Barksdale AFB
Elmendorf AFB
Norfolk, VA
San Diego, CA . . .

in short, if there is a nuclear weapon in it or a nuclear weapon serviced from it or a nuclear weapon commanded from it it's on a first strike list.

Any other target depends on the overall strategy.


What? No New Jersey? I feel left out.

That's what the ellipses are for. I don't know what you've got besides Dix and McGuire. Assuming they're even open.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


You forgot one:

[link to www.afmc.af.mil]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 3:41 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

Wait, are we planning a first strike?
Better start your list with
WDC,
Groton, CT
King's Bay, GA
Bremerton, WA
Knob Noster, MO
Charleston Naval Weapons Station, SC
Minot ND
Ellsworth AFB
Barksdale AFB
Elmendorf AFB
Norfolk, VA
San Diego, CA . . .

in short, if there is a nuclear weapon in it or a nuclear weapon serviced from it or a nuclear weapon commanded from it it's on a first strike list.

Any other target depends on the overall strategy.


What? No New Jersey? I feel left out.

That's what the ellipses are for. I don't know what you've got besides Dix and McGuire. Assuming they're even open.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


Oh yeah. I feel better now. Thanks.

I'm 30 minutes west of NYC anyway, so I'm sure I'd get a nice view and whiff of radiation as they vap-o-wise the city.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
8/20/2008 3:44 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

None of this sabre-rattling is any good.


The two countries are acting like children!

i don't think you can apply the sabre rattling cliche' to this one. they do not have the american mindset, and you do not understand their culture. he means business.
 Quoting: dalak


But why incinerate billions of people and know your own country would be wiped out in something like this?

It's sheer insanity.
MAD WORLD
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:45 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

None of this sabre-rattling is any good.


The two countries are acting like children!

i don't think you can apply the sabre rattling cliche' to this one. they do not have the american mindset, and you do not understand their culture. he means business.


But why incinerate billions of people and know your own country would be wiped out in something like this?

It's sheer insanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328


Why do you think they call it Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD)?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487908
8/20/2008 3:45 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

Oh Oh! And picture this. Think about how fucked the USA will be if it turns really nasty.

I'm guessing that the missiles launched from subs close to the coast WILL NOT have their transponders on -- because they don't have 'em, lol. And if you can't see a big fucking airplane flying about (9/11) because of no transponder, a cruise missile will be a real needle in the hay stack, eh?.

Just sayin'.

LMAO.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486951
8/20/2008 3:45 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

will they make good on the threat to nuke poland?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486951

and if not then what is their next option?
Lester Subscriber
User ID: 488205
8/20/2008 3:45 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

Quite the stretch to equate putting a few Patriot Missile batteries in Poland with the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Cuba was in receipt of nuclear capable missiles, they were being deployed. Launch facilities were built.

The Polish anti-ICBM thing is years away from completion.
Nothing at all in common with Cuba crisis.
NO ANTI-ICBM MISSILES in Poland. No bases, no construction, no gear even en route! Not for years to come!

You guys who run around trying to appease the bully will wind up dead anyway. Your fear ought to be rechanneled into Righteous Indignation. If you're American, your tax money was sent into Former USSR by the Trillions! We paid them to reform and be peaceful.

You still think that a mechanized division is just positioned 300 miles from base, w/full support and infantry on happenstance? Costs Many Millions per hour to keep those assets on deployed alert. Russia just "got lucky"? Just happened to be waiting for trouble "should it occur on 8/7/08 just beyond the tunnel leading to So. Ossetia border? Why that place out of the other 10,000 miles of border with other "troublespots", many that are/were more "worrisome"?

Think there is any appeasing an enemy that masses force 100x the opponent? Think the enemy, Russia, had anything less than the complete ruination of Georgia in mind from the beginning?


Oh well, Bush & Pooty are just playing their roles, reading their lines.

Shit Happens; but not on this scale because of an "accident".

Time to wake up and figure out that unless you TAKE ACTION to be ready to preserve your life, you could just be one of the useless eaters that the Al Gore Corps want to be rid of... Any way it happens, as long as about 95% of the earth die off, is alright with these nutjob elitists.

Hell is coming to breakfast. I just hope you are somewhere else when it knocks...
dalak
User ID: 487531
8/20/2008 3:46 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

so that, and their statement that they reserve the right to pre emptively strike, means it could now happen ANYTIME.

WTF are they playing at?

preemptive strikes are the same right the US reserves for itself so nothing's really changed other than a statement of the obvious- the Russians view the missile defense system as directed against them and will respond accordingly.

Diplomatically, something fishy is going on. Why would the US announce the deal at a time when the Russians are pissed off and just demonstrated that US allies may be left to the tender mercies of Moscow?

I wonder if someone isn't being baited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553
hasn't that been obivious from the start? every move the usa has made was designed to bait russia. and they won't quit doing it till the nukes fly i'm tellin ya.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488116
8/20/2008 3:48 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

None of this sabre-rattling is any good.


The two countries are acting like children!

i don't think you can apply the sabre rattling cliche' to this one. they do not have the american mindset, and you do not understand their culture. he means business.


But why incinerate billions of people and know your own country would be wiped out in something like this?

It's sheer insanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328


if one side BELIEVES, or even KNOWS it can take out it's enemies at one fell swoop, don't you think they WOULD?

i reckon they have stumbled on something that utterly neutralises the enemies forces, even the subs. Some brand new technology.

question is WHO? us or them?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380553
8/20/2008 3:48 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

ALaska?

The Russians wouldn't waste any missiles other than to take out military installations and HAARP.

Easy move for them with ships ground troops mop up

eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.


excuse, but wtf do you think the US MILITARY is going to be doing when Russia allegedly conducts all of these operations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486993

I figured we were talking in hypotheticals.

Besides, we're talking first strike.

If the US military is fortunate and survives a first strike then it is launching an effective second strike and the military is preparing for extended combat.

If not, then the troops overseas are preparing to surrender in place because their supplies are cut off while troops in the US who survived the first strike are preparing to carry out whatever orders they get or preparing to go home if not in good order.

Maybe they are taking advantage of the domestic power vacuum with NORTHCOM federalizing the Guard, calling up the remaining reserves and declaring martial law for the good of the country.

Hypothetically speaking.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:49 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

Quite the stretch to equate putting a few Patriot Missile batteries in Poland with the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Cuba was in receipt of nuclear capable missiles, they were being deployed. Launch facilities were built.

The Polish anti-ICBM thing is years away from completion.
Nothing at all in common with Cuba crisis.
NO ANTI-ICBM MISSILES in Poland. No bases, no construction, no gear even en route! Not for years to come!

You guys who run around trying to appease the bully will wind up dead anyway. Your fear ought to be rechanneled into Righteous Indignation. If you're American, your tax money was sent into Former USSR by the Trillions! We paid them to reform and be peaceful.

You still think that a mechanized division is just positioned 300 miles from base, w/full support and infantry on happenstance? Costs Many Millions per hour to keep those assets on deployed alert. Russia just "got lucky"? Just happened to be waiting for trouble "should it occur on 8/7/08 just beyond the tunnel leading to So. Ossetia border? Why that place out of the other 10,000 miles of border with other "troublespots", many that are/were more "worrisome"?

Think there is any appeasing an enemy that masses force 100x the opponent? Think the enemy, Russia, had anything less than the complete ruination of Georgia in mind from the beginning?


Oh well, Bush & Pooty are just playing their roles, reading their lines.

Shit Happens; but not on this scale because of an "accident".

Time to wake up and figure out that unless you TAKE ACTION to be ready to preserve your life, you could just be one of the useless eaters that the Al Gore Corps want to be rid of... Any way it happens, as long as about 95% of the earth die off, is alright with these nutjob elitists.

Hell is coming to breakfast. I just hope you are somewhere else when it knocks...
 Quoting: Lester


But isn't everything the fault of the U.S.? As I read most of the posts here it would seem that most college graduates think that way...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380553
8/20/2008 3:52 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

so that, and their statement that they reserve the right to pre emptively strike, means it could now happen ANYTIME.

WTF are they playing at?

preemptive strikes are the same right the US reserves for itself so nothing's really changed other than a statement of the obvious- the Russians view the missile defense system as directed against them and will respond accordingly.

Diplomatically, something fishy is going on. Why would the US announce the deal at a time when the Russians are pissed off and just demonstrated that US allies may be left to the tender mercies of Moscow?

I wonder if someone isn't being baited.
hasn't that been obivious from the start? every move the usa has made was designed to bait russia. and they won't quit doing it till the nukes fly i'm tellin ya.
 Quoting: dalak

I'm not sure it's the Russians who are being baited though that would take a level of political subtlety that the US is not known for.

If the US is goading Russia into war, we'll know soon enough but I wouldn't be shocked if the US is trying to tempt any one of a number of non-Russian actors into something under the notion that the US and Russia are occupied with each other.

All warfare is based on deception.
This is a little too obvious.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 3:52 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

will they make good on the threat to nuke poland?

and if not then what is their next option?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486951


Nuke Georgia and be done with it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 482888
8/20/2008 3:54 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

Here's my take on what Russia would do, hell it's what I would do...


Send Iran all sorts of goodies.

Send Syria all sorts of goodies.

Send Iraqi resistance all sorts of goodies.



I would just fight the U.S. through middle east proxy, and make sure that the middle east American opposition is armed to the teeth.

Even support opposition groups in Jordon and Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan.

Get those governments too.

I would surround Israel with so much gunpowder that she'd be afraid to sneeze...If Israel was really in fear they would reign in the Americans.

At the very least this thing in Poland is going to get a lot of people dead in Iraq for sure.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488226
8/20/2008 3:56 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

what timespan are we talking about?



30 minutes or so,not long.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488239



The Russians could deploy a nuclear armed sub 200 miles west of LA. Warning time 5 minutes.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379467
8/20/2008 3:58 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

I would say Alaska then Washington State would be the first strike. We are in missile range but who knows.
Russia also keeps toying with American air space around Alaska.


Dayam........we live in the DFW area. Lots for them to screw up here.

They would like to see NY, LA and probably SF go up in smoke too.

ALaska?

The Russians wouldn't waste any missiles other than to take out military installations and HAARP.

Easy move for them with ships ground troops mop up

eh, I figure you decapitate the government, destroy the military and take out a couple of cities then some enterprising young leftist politician will come out of the woodwork and sign the country over to the commies if that's what they want.

No need for a messy invasion. Besides, only the Chinese and Indians could come up with enough soldiers to even attempt an invasion.


excuse, but wtf do you think the US MILITARY is going to be doing when Russia allegedly conducts all of these operations?

I figured we were talking in hypotheticals.

Besides, we're talking first strike.

If the US military is fortunate and survives a first strike then it is launching an effective second strike and the military is preparing for extended combat.

If not, then the troops overseas are preparing to surrender in place because their supplies are cut off while troops in the US who survived the first strike are preparing to carry out whatever orders they get or preparing to go home if not in good order.

Maybe they are taking advantage of the domestic power vacuum with NORTHCOM federalizing the Guard, calling up the remaining reserves and declaring martial law for the good of the country.

Hypothetically speaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


Once satellites detect a launch in Kazakhstan or the Ukraine U.S. Space Command will confirm, after that the President of the U.S. will authorize a retaliatory strike--any troops on the ground in foreign countries won't have to worry about surrender because there will be no one to surrender to.
dalak
User ID: 487531
8/20/2008 3:59 PM
Re: Breaking!!!!!! Fox news reporting that Russia will respond with more than just a diplomatic response to U.S. missile shieldQuote

None of this sabre-rattling is any good.


The two countries are acting like children!

i don't think you can apply the sabre rattling cliche' to this one. they do not have the american mindset, and you do not understand their culture. he means business.


But why incinerate billions of people and know your own country would be wiped out in something like this?

It's sheer insanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
my guess is they have found a way to minimize the damage. and that they will strike first as the first striker has the edge. i don't think he's afraid to do it. and i think russia, iran and china, and others have been wanting to take the usa out for a long time and have banded together. and remember, politicians are ruthless, it may be worth it to putin to have a few million people killed, for the outcome he is expecting.
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