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Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 2:55 PM
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Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [link to news.xinhuanet.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331956 (OP)
8/20/2008 4:05 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
this situation is not going to fade away
Im more worried about a "non-response" or weak talk than physical threats because the PNAC boys and the Cheney team are quietly scheming up something "good" to answer Russias bold move in georgia
They wont let Russia get away with this.
I think Iran has a green light now because if Israel/US does not attack it will be perceived as weakness and loss of face.
A big part of war is Psychological advantage.
The ball is now in Cheneys court. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 4:07 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Glad someone else posted this and it got pinned.
Seemed so strange to me that it wasn't getting much attention:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Good job mods. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485144
8/20/2008 4:18 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
It's not over by a long shot. It has not even started yet. |
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Grizzled Old Goat 
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 4:27 PM
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Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 4:38 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Whaaaat?
What are you smoking?
They created a pretext HOW? They didn't start this. U.S.-controlled Georgia launched the brutal attack on Russian civilians and then Russia retaliated.
Of course they are taking full advantage of the situation, just as the U.S. would in a similar situation -- but let's not buy into the BS propaganda in the U.S. about how Russia started all this, as that's complete and utter bunk. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488274
8/20/2008 4:43 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Georgia is a soveriegn nation. They can procure weapons from anyone they like. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 4:46 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Georgia is a soveriegn nation. They can procure weapons from anyone they like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488274
Yup, but to use them against civilians warrants a very strong response against them.
It is so unfortunate for the people that their leaders are imbeciles:
[link to ca.youtube.com] |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 5:09 PM
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Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Whaaaat?
What are you smoking?
They created a pretext HOW? They didn't start this. U.S.-controlled Georgia launched the brutal attack on Russian civilians and then Russia retaliated.
Of course they are taking full advantage of the situation, just as the U.S. would in a similar situation -- but let's not buy into the BS propaganda in the U.S. about how Russia started all this, as that's complete and utter bunk.
Of course Russia started it - who else had anything to gain? Here is what was going on on August 6 - BEFORE the fighting officially broke out..
[link to www.messenger.com.ge]
The Russians started this up a while ago, by issuing Russian passports to any South Ossetian that wanted one. Then they had the separatists provoke the Georgian gov't - and PRESTO! - a pretext to invade Georgia to "rescue" their citizens of convenience.
They are doing the same thing now in Ukraine - distributing passports in the Crimean peninsula, which they intend to grab next..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 440969
8/20/2008 5:23 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Of course Russia started it - who else had anything to gain? Here is what was going on on August 6 - BEFORE the fighting officially broke out..
[ link to www.messenger.com.ge]
The Russians started this up a while ago, by issuing Russian passports to any South Ossetian that wanted one. Then they had the separatists provoke the Georgian gov't - and PRESTO! - a pretext to invade Georgia to "rescue" their citizens of convenience.
They are doing the same thing now in Ukraine - distributing passports in the Crimean peninsula, which they intend to grab next..
OMG, GOG, regardless of the players, you are desperate to suggest that issuing passports is a provocation of war.
This is an example of the twisted reasoning that helps keep the world at war.
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dalak
User ID: 487531
8/20/2008 5:26 PM
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Of course Russia started it - who else had anything to gain? Here is what was going on on August 6 - BEFORE the fighting officially broke out..
[ link to www.messenger.com.ge]
The Russians started this up a while ago, by issuing Russian passports to any South Ossetian that wanted one. Then they had the separatists provoke the Georgian gov't - and PRESTO! - a pretext to invade Georgia to "rescue" their citizens of convenience.
They are doing the same thing now in Ukraine - distributing passports in the Crimean peninsula, which they intend to grab next..
OMG, GOG, regardless of the players, you are desperate to suggest that issuing passports is a provocation of war.
This is an example of the twisted reasoning that helps keep the world at war.
. |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 5:27 PM
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Of course Russia started it - who else had anything to gain? Here is what was going on on August 6 - BEFORE the fighting officially broke out..
[ link to www.messenger.com.ge]
The Russians started this up a while ago, by issuing Russian passports to any South Ossetian that wanted one. Then they had the separatists provoke the Georgian gov't - and PRESTO! - a pretext to invade Georgia to "rescue" their citizens of convenience.
They are doing the same thing now in Ukraine - distributing passports in the Crimean peninsula, which they intend to grab next..
OMG, GOG, regardless of the players, you are desperate to suggest that issuing passports is a provocation of war.
This is an example of the twisted reasoning that helps keep the world at war.
.
Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 5:29 PM
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OMG, GOG, regardless of the players, you are desperate to suggest that issuing passports is a provocation of war.
This is an example of the twisted reasoning that helps keep the world at war.
.
that's why he is called "gog", as in gog and magog, the witless ones who are left behind after the fray. Quoting: dalak
Oh goody - a highschooler's opinion - please go on!
:w4lkenpee:
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488272
8/20/2008 5:29 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Yeah not your neighbors.. at least do your dirty work a few countries away. |
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LS
Self-Similarity
User ID: 437351
8/20/2008 5:37 PM
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Fuck russia! they are equipping the s. ossetians.
If you are worthy of its affection, a cat will be your friend, but never your slave. 
[link to www.hsus.org]
[link to www.defenders.org]
The Strong do not Victimize the Helpless. |
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Axiom-Io
User ID: 488293
8/20/2008 5:42 PM
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A few months back, when Putin met privately with W. in Maine, I knew they were finalizing plans on something. Something to try to effect the U.S. elections in November.
This is the "October Surprise", but with the ball started rolling in August.
It's all deliberate political theater. The question is whether the script calls only for saber rattling or something more. |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 5:42 PM
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I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Yeah not your neighbors.. at least do your dirty work a few countries away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488272
"Neighbors" don't run you over with a tank. Good luck with the appeasement..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429258
8/20/2008 5:46 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
A few months back, when Putin met privately with W. in Maine, I knew they were finalizing plans on something. Something to try to effect the U.S. elections in November.
This is the "October Surprise", but with the ball started rolling in August.
It's all deliberate political theater. The question is whether the script calls only for saber rattling or something more. Quoting: Axiom-Io
That is spot on.
I thought the same thing.
They are scheming up something. |
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 440969
8/20/2008 5:49 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
No, GOG, it's not. S Ossetians have been allied with Russia from the get-go. They never wanted to be part of Georgia.
If I was a S Ossetian separatist, and I saw things heating up with Georgi in their desperation to become a NATO member (remember NATO told Georgia they would NOT be considered for membership until the country was unified) coupled with witnessing the West and Israel weaponizing Georgia and, just for good measure, throw in a fight for strategic military position and control of Georgian land for pipelines, my S Ossetian ass would be applying for a Russian passport before I could get my shoes on.
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 5:51 PM
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Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes..
No, GOG, it's not. S Ossetians have been allied with Russia from the get-go. They never wanted to be part of Georgia.
If I was a S Ossetian separatist, and I saw things heating up with Georgi in their desperation to become a NATO member (remember NATO told Georgia they would NOT be considered for membership until the country was unified) coupled with witnessing the West and Israel weaponizing Georgia and, just for good measure, throw in a fight for strategic military position and control of Georgian land for pipelines, my S Ossetian ass would be applying for a Russian passport before I could get my shoes on.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 440969
I'm sure you would - but that doesn't make it any less of a prepared pretext for invasion..
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 440969
8/20/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
"Neighbors" don't run you over with a tank. Good luck with the appeasement.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
"Neighbors" don't bomb innocent civilians in their homes and churches and hospitals causing need for tanks and other measures of war.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488299
8/20/2008 5:58 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
You mean "your enemy", not mine. They aren't threatening me or mine, but Israel is. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488299
8/20/2008 6:00 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Yeah not your neighbors.. at least do your dirty work a few countries away.
"Neighbors" don't run you over with a tank. Good luck with the appeasement.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Or shoot up your Liberty ship, or steal your secrets, or be a perpetual leach on your pocketbook. |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 6:02 PM
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I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
You mean "your enemy", not mine. They aren't threatening me or mine, but Israel is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 488299
Not threatening you directly huh? I guess you're not Georgian, Polish, Ukrainian, Chechen, Ingush...etc
How is Israel threatening you? Are you a member of HAMAS, Hizballah - or the IRG?
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 429258
8/20/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Old Goat, you know it was the Georgians that started this whole mess?
They attacked Russian peacekeepers and then bombed the hell out of the civilian population.
The Georgian president is an absolute lunatic.
We should be minding our own fucking business. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468220
8/20/2008 6:21 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Lieberman
A prominent U.S. senator advocated strengthening Georgia's capability to defend itself against possible future Russian attack as he visited the country Wednesday in a signal of solidarity.
Lieberman said he and Graham "would like to see the United States provide assistance to the Georgian military — self-defense equipment that will help them defend and deter against Russian aggression in the future" — specifically, anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 468220
8/20/2008 6:24 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
HE ALSO SAID
"We can't let a bully do this, because if they do it here, they'll do it other places, and if we don't stop it here we'll have to stop it in a much more difficult way," Lieberman added. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480895
8/20/2008 6:24 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Oh, kind of like Halliburton and Iran?
[link to www.halliburtonwatch.org]
Or do you mean the CIA and Iran?
[link to www.freerepublic.com]
Or maybe you mean the fact that Iran has stopped working on a nuclear bomb?
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
And who's the real enemy? Is it the people that killed some 30+ and injured hundreds of ppl on the USS liberty, spies the most on the USA, uses the money given them to subvert this country's politicians, and had spies and bomb experts all over NYC on 911? Take a guess who. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342053
8/20/2008 6:38 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
It's all been planned for a while... I've heard reports that Carl Rove has been spending an awful lot of time over there this year.
[link to www.truthdig.com]
Russia was provoked. We planned it. How else do you think we're going to get out of bankruptcy? All out WAR. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480895
8/20/2008 6:56 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
So issuing passports is now grounds to get killed? Tell that to your dual-citizenship masters Chertov and Bzinski. LOL! |
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 7:08 PM
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Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes..
So issuing passports is now grounds to get killed? Tell that to your dual-citizenship masters Chertov and Bzinski. LOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 480895
Get a brain would ya numbskull? It's a CURRENT tactic to INSERT Russian civilians into disputed regions - where they will have to be "rescued" during a "crisis" (of Putin's invention)..
Ukraine is next..
[link to www.wordforge.net]
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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