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The 11th Hour Watcher 
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8/20/2008 7:18 PM
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this situation is not going to fade away
Im more worried about a "non-response" or weak talk than physical threats because the PNAC boys and the Cheney team are quietly scheming up something "good" to answer Russias bold move in georgia
They wont let Russia get away with this.
I think Iran has a green light now because if Israel/US does not attack it will be perceived as weakness and loss of face.
A big part of war is Psychological advantage.
The ball is now in Cheneys court. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331956
Funny you should mention the above....
Plase have a look here... got this off of Rense
Cif America
Attacking Iran via South Ossetia
Could the conflict between Russia and Georgia be the excuse the Bush administration has been looking for to bomb Iran?
Stephen Kinzer guardian.co.uk, Wednesday August 20 2008 10:30
An editor I once worked for told me that when his parents and grandparents discussed the day's news over dinner, they would inevitably finish by asking each other: "Is it good for the Jews?"
"Whether it was a war or an earthquake or men landing on the moon, it would always come down to that," he recalled. "They saw everything through that lens."
This year, I've developed a comparable pathology. I am terrified that the Bush administration is going to attack Iran sometime before it leaves office on January 20. Whenever there is a new tremor in Washington or the wider world, I ask myself: Does this make an American strike against Iran more or less likely?
So it is with the recent dustup in Georgia. I fear it has increased the chances that the United States will bomb Iran.
If there is a single principle that underlies the Bush-Cheney view of the world, it is that all countries must accommodate American interests and none may be allowed to emerge as what the 2006 Quadrennial Defence Review called a "near-peer power". This is a recipe for conflict, since many countries will naturally try to increase their power whether or not the US wants them to.
"Let Hercules himself do what he may," that insightful geo-strategist William Shakespeare observed, "the cat will mew, and dog will have his day."
Russia's day is once again dawning. That is not necessarily bad. A multi-polar world shaped by balances and equilibrium is, in the end, safer and more secure for everyone.
This view, though, is abhorrent to the Bush administration. It remains caught in the post-cold war fantasy that America's brief "uni-polar moment" can last indefinitely.
In recent years, the Bush administration has sought at every turn to challenge Russian interests. It has worked to cut Russia out of energy pipelines, expand Nato up to Russia's borders, build missile defence bases near those borders, promote the independence of Kosovo and encourage former Soviet states like Georgia to spit in Russia's strategic eye.
This approach worked while Russia was prostrate. It was inevitable, though, that Russia would eventually begin to re-emerge as an influential power. Now it has.
Washington protested Russia's crushing of Georgia with howls of outrage. President Bush declared with a straight face that "bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century."
Mouthing such pious hypocrisy is about all the US can do to reverse Russia's recent gain. The US and Russia need to cooperate on a host of strategic issues, and Georgia is not a vital interest to the US. The logical thing for the US to do now would be to take this hit and move on.
President Bush and vice-president Cheney, however, may have another idea. I'm reading their minds, and this is what I fear they are thinking:
"We're on our way out of office. The way things look now, the last confrontation between us and the bad guys will have been one that they won. We can't let our term end that way. This can't be the last word. We have to go out in a blaze of glory. Where should we set off that blaze? Iran, of course. No country has taunted us more relentlessly. By bombing Iran, we will send the world a defiant farewell message: Forget Russia - We Still Rule!"
For years before the September 11 terror raids, a clique of millenarian ideologues in Washington had been urging a US attack on Iraq. The raids gave them their excuse. Now I fear the same may be happening with Iran. Georgia could be the excuse.
American policy toward Iran has for decades been shaped by emotion, not rationality. Emotions are now running hot in Washington. Iranians have nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Georgia. I hope they do not soon have to pay a bloody price for it.
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 488215
8/20/2008 7:21 PM
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What the hell is all that crap?
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Ronald Reagan |
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8/20/2008 7:22 PM
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Official: Russian arms sales to set new record
According to the latest report by Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Russia accounted for a quarter of global arms sales in 2003-2007, coming a close second after the United States.
[link to news.yahoo.com]
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:23 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
One thousand U.S. troops began
a military training exercise in Georgia
on Tuesday (15th July 08)
against a backdrop
of growing friction between
Georgia and neighboring Russia.
Officials said the exercise,
called "Immediate Response 2008," had been
planned for months and was not linked
to a stand-off between Moscow and Tbilisi
over two Russian-backed separatists
regions of Georgia.
The United States is an ally of Georgia
and has irritated Russia by backing
Tbilisi's bid to join the
NATO military alliance.
"The main purpose of these exercises is
to increase the cooperation and partnership
between U.S. and Georgian forces,"
Brig. Gen. William B. Garrett, commander of the U.S. military's Southern European Task Force,
told reporters.
The war games involve 600 Georgian troops
and smaller numbers from ex-Soviet
Armenia, Azerbaijan and Ukraine.
The two-week exercise was taking place
at the Vaziani military base near the capital
Tbilisi, which was a Russian air force base
until Russian forces withdrew at
the start of this decade under
a European arms reduction agreement.
Close cooperation
Georgia and the Pentagon cooperate closely.
Georgia has a 2,000-strong contingent
supporting the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq,
and Washington provides
training and equipment to the
Georgian military.
Georgia last week recalled its ambassador
in Moscow in protest at Russia sending
fighter jets into Georgian airspace.
Tbilisi urged the West to
condemn Russia's actions.
Russia said the flights were to prevent
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili
from launching a military operation
against the separatist South Ossetia region.
Moscow accuses Saakashvili of preparing
to restore Tbilisi's control over
South Ossetia and the second breakaway
region of Abkhazia by force.
Tbilisi says that is a pretext for Russia
to effectively annex
large chunks of Georgian territory.
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this was reported in the news
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:23 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes..
So issuing passports is now grounds to get killed? Tell that to your dual-citizenship masters Chertov and Bzinski. LOL!
Get a brain would ya numbskull? It's a CURRENT tactic to INSERT Russian civilians into disputed regions - where they will have to be "rescued" during a "crisis" (of Putin's invention)..
Ukraine is next..
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So my question is who is the good guy? Who is the bad? I'm sure that Germany thought they were the good guys...
If you say it's who ever wins, then you don't believe in a higher being.... Are we truly the antichrist? Our country is run by corporations. They have no heart, no soul, the only thing the corporation lives for is more power and money. |
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jarha
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8/20/2008 7:25 PM
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Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
IT LOOKS LIKE RUSSIANS ARE TAKING ONE STEP BACK.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ESCAPE DOORS.
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:27 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
as russia arms assad to the teeth yet he howls when we
help georgia...if that aint the pot calling the kettle black. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 200257
8/20/2008 7:30 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Does our media propaganda think we are brain dead? Do the information dissemenists think we are stupid?
Georgia started the war. They attacked Ossetia.
I am dissapointed at the US/Israel for peddling this western propaganda...trying to make us all think that Russia is the aggressor.
It just isn't the truth. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488350
8/20/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Georgia is a soveriegn nation. They can procure weapons from anyone they like.
Yup, but to use them against civilians warrants a very strong response against them.
It is so unfortunate for the people that their leaders are imbeciles:
[ link to ca.youtube.com]
Didn't we hang Saddam for "bombing his own people"? |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
as russia arms assad to the teeth yet he howls when we
help georgia...if that aint the pot calling the kettle black. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486380
It is.
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:33 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Georgia is a soveriegn nation. They can procure weapons from anyone they like.
Yup, but to use them against civilians warrants a very strong response against them.
It is so unfortunate for the people that their leaders are imbeciles:
[ link to ca.youtube.com]
Didn't we hang Saddam for "bombing his own people"?
Iraqi's hanged Saddam didn't they? What was his name? Moussaka or something. |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:36 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
If they took all George Bush's protection away, American's would hang him in the streets, too. |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:42 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
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8/20/2008 7:49 PM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
tony blair is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo last year.
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:49 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
There should be a dancing Putin there now but he put Medvedev in charge before he invaded Georgia. Typical KGB style ... behind the scenes shinanegans. |
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:51 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is..
Well, Zionism's next victims. They're no-one's enemy, |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 200257
8/20/2008 7:51 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Actually Bush wouldn't even make it to the noose. |
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LS
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8/20/2008 7:52 PM
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There should be a dancing Putin there now but he put Medvedev in charge before he invaded Georgia. Typical KGB style ... behind the scenes shinanegans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
:ruspuppet:
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:56 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
Whaaaat?
What are you smoking?
They created a pretext HOW? They didn't start this. U.S.-controlled Georgia launched the brutal attack on Russian civilians and then Russia retaliated.
Of course they are taking full advantage of the situation, just as the U.S. would in a similar situation -- but let's not buy into the BS propaganda in the U.S. about how Russia started all this, as that's complete and utter bunk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380168
Please support your assertions with FACT, and I'd like to see more than Pravda or any other russian-leaning news source as your evidence.
True, I do believe that our own sources in the US aren't much better - other than maybe their ability to paint a more colorful picture on the BS they sell; however, logically, Georgia's "brutal" attack on these provinces has not been proven at all, and the Russian actions to date stink of nothing more than a play for control of this region - and the Georgian people, whom they despise.
So, based on the true, undeniable facts that we have in front of us today (i.e. Russia remaining in Georgia, expanding their presence, and expanding their control of key infrastructure related to European trade and energy, as well as threatening their neighbors and lying to the world on basically every front) it is increasingly obvious that this is a power play by Russia and nothing more. Ossetia and Georgia are simply pawns in this much larger game...
The lines are quickly being drawn, and the true faces of all players will soon become evident to all. |
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the dreaded flag
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8/20/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
complete and utter fukin  |
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Trench
GLP's Raging Maniac
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8/20/2008 7:58 PM
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95...
IT LOOKS LIKE RUSSIANS ARE TAKING ONE STEP BACK.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ESCAPE DOORS.
Or else they are setting us up to fuck up on the world stage by pulling an "I told you so" and thereby justifying their next action...
I dont have a fucking attitude,you stupid motherfucker
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Anonymous Coward
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8/20/2008 7:59 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
There should be a dancing Putin there now but he put Medvedev in charge before he invaded Georgia. Typical KGB style ... behind the scenes shinanegans.
:ruspuppet: Quoting: LS
Indeed. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 200257
8/20/2008 8:01 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Why do people conveniently overlook the fact, REPEATEDLY, that Georgia attacked Ossetia, they threw the first punch.
Hello??????????? |
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 440969
8/20/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Official: Russian arms sales to set new record
According to the latest report by Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Russia accounted for a quarter of global arms sales in 2003-2007, coming a close second after the United States.
[ link to news.yahoo.com] Quoting: LS
Per the article, they are selling not stockpiling.
On a related note, see below:
Excerpt from an interview in June 2008 with Putin by G8 journalists:
VLADIMIR PUTIN: I would start with the Adapted Conventional Armed Forces Treaty in Europe (ACAF). We have not just stated that we are ready to comply with the treaty, like certain others have done. We really are implementing it: we have removed all of our heavy weapons from the European part of Russia and put them behind the Urals. We have reduced our Armed Forces by 300,000. We have taken several other steps required by the ACAF. But what have we seen in response? Eastern Europe is receiving new weapons, two new military bases are being set up in Romania and in Bulgaria, and there are two new missile launch areas - a radar in Czech republic and missile systems in Poland. And we are asking ourselves the question: what is going on? Russia is disarming unilaterally. But if we disarm unilaterally then we would like to see our partners be willing to do the same thing in Europe. On the contrary, Europe is being pumped full of new weapons systems. And of course we cannot help but be concerned.
What should we do in these circumstances? Of course we have declared a moratorium.
This applies to the missile defence system. But not just the missile defence system itself. Since if this missile system is put in place, it will work automatically with the entire nuclear capability of the United States. It will be an integral part of the US nuclear capability.
I draw your attention and that of your readers to the fact that, for the first time in history - and I want to emphasize this - there are elements of the US nuclear capability on the European continent. It simply changes the whole configuration of international security. That is the second thing.
Continued
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
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TX PATRIOT
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8/20/2008 8:22 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Why do people conveniently overlook the fact, REPEATEDLY, that Georgia attacked Ossetia, they threw the first punch.
Hello??????????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 200257
Actually, Grizzled Goat believes that Russia threw the first punch by issuing passports to S Ossetians, who have always aligned themselves with Russia and never wanted to be part of Georgia.
No, no, not the dreadful 'issuing of the passports' first punch!!
LMAO
These people are desperate to make Russia - although not without her faults - the despised enemy of the West. The intensity reveals their desperation but also makes the tactics quite transparent to anyone paying attention.
Issuing passports as a pretext for war. *still shaking head in amazement *
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 200257
8/20/2008 8:24 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
So nice to see you TX PATRIOT. Always the voice of reason, I appreciate that, especially in a sea of lies and propaganda.
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rational idiot
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8/20/2008 8:29 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
since when does Russia require 'permission to oppress their neighbors, either OSCE or NATO or other'??
Russia has stepped over the line in the sand, if Russia is allowed to use 'aggressive actions without diplomacy first' then by definition this is an act of world war! And if Georgia were to be so stupid to attack Russia, they too are 'acting without diplomatic oversight and behaving on a warlike stance!
NATO and OSCE were both designed as diplomatic methods to solve disagreements, not last resort to force the world to 'go to war'!
Orwell was correct, humans have been brainwashed to accept 'war as peace', 'freedom as oppression' blah, blah,l blah....
it's all about the doom! 
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
Advertisements [?]Source: Xinhua
BRUSSELS, Aug. 20 (Xinhua) -- Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin warned Wednesday NATO against filling the gap of losses of the Georgian military incurred in its conflict with Russia.
"Any attempt of NATO to fill the gap of losses of the Georgian army contradicts the conventions of the OSCE (Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe)," Rogozin told reporters.
All NATO countries, Russia and Georgia are members of the OSCE.
He said the provision of strategic armament to Georgia and the flight of NATO reconnaissance planes along Russia's borders as requested by Georgia are regarded as hostile actions to Russia.
He warned that these actions may make Russia change its position on its relationship with the West, including military cooperation and on Moscow's policy on Iran.
Read more: [ link to news.xinhuanet.com]
I wonder if creating a pretext to invade and savage your neighbors "contradicts the conventions of the OSCE"??
As far as Iran - Russia has been a thorn in the side of the west on Iran - even supplying their nuclear fuel. Fuck 'em - at least we know who our enemy is.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380168
8/20/2008 8:30 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military
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Whaaaat?
What are you smoking?
They created a pretext HOW? They didn't start this. U.S.-controlled Georgia launched the brutal attack on Russian civilians and then Russia retaliated.
Of course they are taking full advantage of the situation, just as the U.S. would in a similar situation -- but let's not buy into the BS propaganda in the U.S. about how Russia started all this, as that's complete and utter bunk.
Please support your assertions with FACT, and I'd like to see more than Pravda or any other russian-leaning news source as your evidence.
True, I do believe that our own sources in the US aren't much better - other than maybe their ability to paint a more colorful picture on the BS they sell; however, logically, Georgia's "brutal" attack on these provinces has not been proven at all, and the Russian actions to date stink of nothing more than a play for control of this region - and the Georgian people, whom they despise.
So, based on the true, undeniable facts that we have in front of us today (i.e. Russia remaining in Georgia, expanding their presence, and expanding their control of key infrastructure related to European trade and energy, as well as threatening their neighbors and lying to the world on basically every front) it is increasingly obvious that this is a power play by Russia and nothing more. Ossetia and Georgia are simply pawns in this much larger game...
The lines are quickly being drawn, and the true faces of all players will soon become evident to all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 467001
Do your own research. I'm nobody's reference librarian and have no interest in countering propaganda machines.
But, this should get you started:
[link to www.google.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 465490
8/20/2008 8:57 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Issuing THOUSANDS of passports into a disputed region during a separatist crisis IS AN OBVIOUS STRATEGY TO CREATE THE CONDITION FOR INVASION - yes..
Open yer eyes..
So issuing passports is now grounds to get killed? Tell that to your dual-citizenship masters Chertov and Bzinski. LOL!
Get a brain would ya numbskull? It's a CURRENT tactic to INSERT Russian civilians into disputed regions - where they will have to be "rescued" during a "crisis" (of Putin's invention)..
Ukraine is next..
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Absolutely, GOG! There is no doubt about it! This has all been planned in advance by Russia aka (USSR)(former KGB colonel Vladamir Putin, former president, now acting prime minister) [link to articles.latimes.com]
There are a number of people who need to get the blinders off or they will never know what hit them when the truth descends on them too much like the angel of death. Russia is not now, nor was it ever, what it wishes the world to perceive it as. Please read this! [link to articles.latimes.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488395
8/20/2008 8:59 PM | | Re: Russia warns NATO against re-equipping Georgia's military | Quote |
Grizzled Old Goat REALLY gets on my nerves....Nitwit |
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