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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486826
8/22/2008 4:59 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
You really are an idiot. I used to be homeless. I was a teenager. If I was weak, I would have given up. But the Op doesn't give up either, but he still won't go forward either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
No hehe, youre the obvious idiot here, you were a teenager and homeless, means you were homeless by choice, I had no choice, theres a difference between being really homeless and being able to run home to mommy and daddy when you grow tired of running about. Im sorry your experience didnt teach you anything of value. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Well, you obviously have enough spirit to argue, and still you are getting all this attention because you are bored with life. You are proving everything I said as I suspected you would, Honey. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
Well listen, i wouldnt be so bored with life if i had people to go out with. ive never had a girlfriend before either. theres just nothing to do, even if you try very hard and come from the heart instead of selfishness / meanness.
i just wish i had more to do and wasnt rejected for no good reason. i also wish i could work and have more money, or that my Anhedonia wouldnt interfere with the pleasure and drive to do hobbies or something like that. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433558
8/22/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I was living with my parents and got evicted on my 16th birthday, believe it or not. And we lived in tents and with friends for the next 6 months. Big deal. Shit happens. You're an enabling fool.
It's okay, when the THTS, all the chaff will be separated from the wheat. |
| Coolchick 
User ID: 427959
8/22/2008 5:02 PM
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Well, you obviously have enough spirit to argue, and still you are getting all this attention because you are bored with life. You are proving everything I said as I suspected you would, Honey.
Well listen, i wouldnt be so bored with life if i had people to go out with. ive never had a girlfriend before either. theres just nothing to do, even if you try very hard and come from the heart instead of selfishness / meanness.
i just wish i had more to do and wasnt rejected for no good reason. i also wish i could work and have more money, or that my Anhedonia wouldnt interfere with the pleasure and drive to do hobbies or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489316
Good music and a notebook, man, I'm tellin ya..
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433558
8/22/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Well, you obviously have enough spirit to argue, and still you are getting all this attention because you are bored with life. You are proving everything I said as I suspected you would, Honey.
Well listen, i wouldnt be so bored with life if i had people to go out with. ive never had a girlfriend before either. theres just nothing to do, even if you try very hard and come from the heart instead of selfishness / meanness.
i just wish i had more to do and wasnt rejected for no good reason. i also wish i could work and have more money, or that my Anhedonia wouldnt interfere with the pleasure and drive to do hobbies or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489316
Anyone can do hobbies. You don't need a car to get along. Go get some cheap art supplies and start painting or drawing. A creative outlet is a wonderful thing. I do beading and I am trying to learn to sew. |
| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
8/22/2008 5:05 PM
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Well listen, i wouldnt be so bored with life if i had people to go out with. ive never had a girlfriend before either. theres just nothing to do, even if you try very hard and come from the heart instead of selfishness / meanness.
i just wish i had more to do and wasnt rejected for no good reason. i also wish i could work and have more money, or that my Anhedonia wouldnt interfere with the pleasure and drive to do hobbies or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489316
look man i know i offered you advice and im sure 20 other people have but your at the same place you were before
why dont you get up and do something about it change doesnt happen by not acting it happens from acting
so go for a walk stick some needles in your arm let the dog lick peanut butter off your wee wee and find something you can believe in or things will never get better
the more you focus on what applies that supressing you the more its going to supress you so find what helps you succeed and it will if you let it |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433558
8/22/2008 5:05 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
You really are an idiot. I used to be homeless. I was a teenager. If I was weak, I would have given up. But the Op doesn't give up either, but he still won't go forward either.
No hehe, youre the obvious idiot here, you were a teenager and homeless, means you were homeless by choice, I had no choice, theres a difference between being really homeless and being able to run home to mommy and daddy when you grow tired of running about. Im sorry your experience didnt teach you anything of value. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486826
The WHOLE family was homeless. Dipshit.
Talk about assumptiveness. Do you have any friends, dear? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Anyone can do hobbies. You don't need a car to get along. Go get some cheap art supplies and start painting or drawing. A creative outlet is a wonderful thing. I do beading and I am trying to learn to sew. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
i can barely hand write, i can only make stick figures as far as drawing. it takes me 5 times longer than the average person to hand write.
my typing speed is typically around 65 wwords per minute or above but even handwriting is very very difficult.
i just dont feel any pleasure from any hobbies and cant concentrate, the depression interferes with feeling pleasure and motive to do things. theres no reward from doing the things
like if you built a model plane, or if you played a video game, your brain feels pleasure from it , a reward feeling from it, and thus you have motive to do it
i dont feel the pleasure and reward like i should from things and it drives me nuts. it makes me smoke cigarettes, use tramadol, pace, and shake all the time and im in a constant state of heavy and high craving-like state where im craving pleasure but cant ever get it.
also i get attacks where i have to lie in bed and cant get up, feeling pressure being applied to my head and going delirious
i cant explain it very well
also people lie to me and do strange behaviors like pretend to have amnesia. this devastates me worse |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 5:10 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
the more you focus on what applies that supressing you the more its going to supress you so find what helps you succeed and it will if you let it Quoting: whyidontknow
oh no, its not about focus and thoughts.
how can i explain this
the suffering goes on despite what you focus on. im just tellign about it in this thread
to use an analogy, if you got burned, you would feel the brun pain on your skin no matter what your thoughts were.
if you had the flu, youd feel the suffering of the flu no matter what you did or thoguht of
theres the best analogies i can think of, sorry. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486826
8/22/2008 5:10 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I was living with my parents and got evicted on my 16th birthday, believe it or not. And we lived in tents and with friends for the next 6 months. Big deal. Shit happens. You're an enabling fool.
It's okay, when the THTS, all the chaff will be separated from the wheat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
Tents and friends? LMAO
Thats a fucking luxury, what are you whining about?
Yes, the chaff will truly be seperated from the wheat,
the last will the first, my friend. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433558
8/22/2008 5:16 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Basically you're a drug addict and can't find a rush like you use to.
BTW, you are overestimating the pleasure you derive from things. I work because I have to pay bills. It doesn't give me pleasure as much as it does satisfaction from a job well done. Satisfaction is knowing that you have done well, and have done you best.
Same with you.
Do things because you can, not because you think you deserve a reward. You're not a trick dog. You aren't going to get a biscuit just for getting up in the morning and showering. That is the place you start at the beginning of the day. It's not a reward, it's a habit. You have no routines, I bet you eat like shit, and you refuse to change. You don't want to change. You want to be applauded for the daily shit. You aren't going to be. No one is.
If all else fails, you can hook up with 486826. You can obviously are literate to comprehend what people are telling you, so I don't quite believe you are as incapacitated as you claim.
I am going to go. I can't afford you anymore attention, Op. You know what to do. Ultimately you are a grown man, it's your life to waste or correct as you see fit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433558
8/22/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I was living with my parents and got evicted on my 16th birthday, believe it or not. And we lived in tents and with friends for the next 6 months. Big deal. Shit happens. You're an enabling fool.
It's okay, when the THTS, all the chaff will be separated from the wheat.
Tents and friends? LMAO
Thats a fucking luxury, what are you whining about?
Yes, the chaff will truly be seperated from the wheat,
the last will the first, my friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486826
Bite me. You're a total pain in the ass. At least the OP scored another acolyte. He's apparently brighter than you. Ana manipulating as I thought. Dummy. Waste your tears if you want to. I'm done. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 5:19 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Basically you're a drug addict and can't find a rush like you use to.
BTW, you are overestimating the pleasure you derive from things. I work because I have to pay bills. It doesn't give me pleasure as much as it does satisfaction from a job well done. Satisfaction is knowing that you have done well, and have done you best.
Same with you.
Do things because you can, not because you think you deserve a reward. You're not a trick dog. You aren't going to get a biscuit just for getting up in the morning and showering. That is the place you start at the beginning of the day. It's not a reward, it's a habit. You have no routines, I bet you eat like shit, and you refuse to change. You don't want to change. You want to be applauded for the daily shit. You aren't going to be. No one is.
If all else fails, you can hook up with 486826. You can obviously are literate to comprehend what people are telling you, so I don't quite believe you are as incapacitated as you claim.
I am going to go. I can't afford you anymore attention, Op. You know what to do. Ultimately you are a grown man, it's your life to waste or correct as you see fit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
no im no drug addict, i just use my prescription tramadol. i dont use any street drugs. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 486826
8/22/2008 5:41 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
433558, sorry, still laughing about the friends and tent part..be well friend and dont forget your motto on your way out "Arbeit mach freihet". |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/22/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
You do get a lot of attention from all this. Is that the pay off for you? People have a behavior like addiction because there is a payoff in there somewhere for them to do it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/22/2008 5:49 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
All of your advices SUCKS so baaaaad,
The only thing you can do to help..wait not help..how to NOT make it worse..for a person who has a clinical depression is to not put pressure on them.
The person closest to me in my life suffers from clinical depression, and I hate when people tell him or me "Oh maybe if you/he started to go out more, Oh maybe if you/he ate this and that, oh maybe if you/he were more positive" STHU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youre driving me NUUUUUUUUUUUUUTS.
People with clinical depression are in hell 24/7 and your hippie attitudes, snappy attitudes, your "Oh snap out it" attitudes wont change it.
How about accepting people for what they are?????
And stop asking them to take down the moon for ya.
that would be a great change for the better IMHO!!!
Take them how they are, when they don't work, don't do anything but act stupid, and manipulating. Are you saying they are all feckless and DON'T manipulate?
So, why not just put these people into a coma and let tax payers pay for their pointless existence? They are anyway, with people like you to indulge them.
I didn't say get out more. I said: Get off your ass, gor raw vegan, detox, run 10 miles per day, I fucking challenge any "depressed" person to this. They won't BE depressed, because it's impossible. Exercise produces tons of endorphins. It makes you feel happy. Depressed people don't want to feel happy, they want to be depressed so they can be babied and taken care of like a toddler. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/22/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I don't feel high. I just do my thing. I never do drugs, never drink, I do everything I am supposed to in this hard life, with no crutches.
I think it's attention whoredom. That's all.
Whomever wallows like this, obviously loves it.
I cannot wallow. It's not my nature. Neither am I able to hold a grudge. Some people are just naturally optimistic, and some people are naturally a drag to be around. Why can't they all just be a drag together and let the normal people alone. They have to draw everyone into their drama. Let's see what happens if they are taken out of their nesting environment and put where they have to fend for themselves. They'd be all capable overnight. Guaranteed.
BTW, the people around them suffer more than they do. But the selfish one never even thinks of that. Much like an alcoholic can only ever think of their own self absorbed selves.
And you, yes YOU..and your kins
Oh man,
I can describe you in a simple quote from JFK:
"YOU DONT KNOW WHAT LIFE IS LIKE CAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN FUCKED IN THE ASS!!!!!"
vermin, stealer of good air wich you are not worthy to breath, If you are so happy, wtf are you doing on GLP.
Id prefer clinical depression to your state of nothingness.
Whatever. You're an idiot.
This is really what's wrong with Americans. They are so spoiled they have to make up shit to bitch about.
If this was some third world shithole with machine gun toting guerillas and famines and wars, and epidemics and birth defects, I could see, or if you were living in Pakistan with a bunch of backward idiots that think head chopping is a good pastime or stoning women to death for anything and everything. And you know what? No suicides! They have fighting spirit. With nothing to EAT, no roof over their heads, and NO WHERE to go.
See: Darfur. And yet, they don't pity themselves. they see endless death everyday, their own kids! And they do not pity themselves, and they do not QUIT.
I admire courage. I admire tenacity.
I hate whining.
What is the deal? There's endless help, if you want help. The OP refuses to be helped, IMO. He gets to come onhere and have you all singing the Aya song to him. (A Spanish lullaby). Attention without question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/22/2008 5:53 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I don't feel high. I just do my thing. I never do drugs, never drink, I do everything I am supposed to in this hard life, with no crutches.
I think it's attention whoredom. That's all.
Whomever wallows like this, obviously loves it.
I cannot wallow. It's not my nature. Neither am I able to hold a grudge. Some people are just naturally optimistic, and some people are naturally a drag to be around. Why can't they all just be a drag together and let the normal people alone. They have to draw everyone into their drama. Let's see what happens if they are taken out of their nesting environment and put where they have to fend for themselves. They'd be all capable overnight. Guaranteed.
BTW, the people around them suffer more than they do. But the selfish one never even thinks of that. Much like an alcoholic can only ever think of their own self absorbed selves.
no, trust me, you literally feel high compared to a depressed person
you dont feel a strong dysphoric feeling inside your cranium area and get severe weaknesses
your apply your state of consciousness to other people, even though the other people are in a totally different state
its like the same as me spiking your drink with Thorazine, then saying, "what the hell are you doing, get up now and do what you need to do, you just need to do what i do, and keep moving"
See, you are very "into" your illness and vested in it. it is your identity. You won't change because you are made special by it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
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| whyidontknow
User ID: 471651
8/22/2008 5:55 PM
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 470629
8/22/2008 5:57 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I don't feel high. I just do my thing. I never do drugs, never drink, I do everything I am supposed to in this hard life, with no crutches.
I think it's attention whoredom. That's all.
Whomever wallows like this, obviously loves it.
I cannot wallow. It's not my nature. Neither am I able to hold a grudge. Some people are just naturally optimistic, and some people are naturally a drag to be around. Why can't they all just be a drag together and let the normal people alone. They have to draw everyone into their drama. Let's see what happens if they are taken out of their nesting environment and put where they have to fend for themselves. They'd be all capable overnight. Guaranteed.
BTW, the people around them suffer more than they do. But the selfish one never even thinks of that. Much like an alcoholic can only ever think of their own self absorbed selves.
Look, I understand you are jealous that your brother gets love and attention that you do not. That's all. It doesn't mean you understand depression, it just means you are explaining your jealousy.
That's the way all manipulating people are. He doesn't deserve love and attention. He's been a very cruel and mean brother to the rest of us and threatening and abusive. He's the bad one. He does all this just to control people around him. I see the other side clearly.
And yet, I pity him. He has a shitty non life because he basically is waiting to be rescued, but that day will never come. it's his own life. it's a sick relationship he and my parents have. it's unnatural and unhealthy. He cannot get out of his way and utterly lacks social skills becaue my parents taught him nothing about respect. he could have been different but they never raised him right. He got away with murder and expects everyone to spoil him like they do. His wife dumped him because he in his mind, let her take over. As soon as they were married he started quitting jobs for anything so he could stay home and watch cartoons while she worked. he thought she was a surrogate mommy. Well, she duped his ass, and now he's "depressed". well, he really needs to grow the hell up. He made his lumpy bed, and now he's lying in it.
There's a lot more going on than saying you have a condition. There's mostly relationships involved.
That being said, the OP is clinging to his father or whomever it was, that sick relationship they had. To wallow in that time is the only way to continue the sick dependency, without him actually being there, so he can keep the perversion alive. he is living int he past and that is all there is to it.
it's over, It's done all that has been said and left unsaid is set in stone now. Never erased. Yeah, regret it if you have to. But move on already. The ship has sailed.
And last of all, read Ask and It Is Given, OP. You create your reality, 100%. Every circumstance in your life has been created by you. No one can make you behave a certain way. You only can control your reaction to events, not the event itself. It will liberate you and change your life. You don't need medicine. You need to fulfill your purpose in life and let this stage go and let it be the past.
That is why I am always optimistic, because my life is in my hands. No matter what happens I will come out on top, because I accept what I can't change and take responsibility for what I can. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433558
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 5:58 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
im not clinging to anyone
i told you my depression is LIKE the same as someone losing someone at about the 4 or 5 day mark after losing them
i didnt say that was the CAUSE
people cant even read |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489330
8/22/2008 6:05 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
OP, have you joined any depression support groups?
There are many online which you can post to anonymously and share with people who will not treat you as some have here.
I have some issues too, not depression personally, but joined a group where I can post and share in a supportive environment and it really helps.
I also reached out for help in caring for my partner, who has endogenous depression. I love him dearly and getting help to aid me in helping him was a long process - but now I have someone I can call who is supportive if needs be. Even within the so-called "mental health" network, I came across a lot of bollocks, but just carried on searching for the right kind of help. It sounds like you are insightful even in the face of your challenges, so you'll be able to ignore wrong advice and keep searching for what you need - it will come.
Just Google - I don't know which country you are in so don't know what to suggest, |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489316 (OP)
8/22/2008 6:11 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
OP, have you joined any depression support groups?
There are many online which you can post to anonymously and share with people who will not treat you as some have here.
I have some issues too, not depression personally, but joined a group where I can post and share in a supportive environment and it really helps.
I also reached out for help in caring for my partner, who has endogenous depression. I love him dearly and getting help to aid me in helping him was a long process - but now I have someone I can call who is supportive if needs be. Even within the so-called "mental health" network, I came across a lot of bollocks, but just carried on searching for the right kind of help. It sounds like you are insightful even in the face of your challenges, so you'll be able to ignore wrong advice and keep searching for what you need - it will come.
Just Google - I don't know which country you are in so don't know what to suggest, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489330
yes, i did depression groups, though the county health dept and through meetup.com
i wasnt helped by them at all and i didnt relate or resonate with any of the others and they didnt relate or resonate with me at all. we were just alien to each other. no one relates or resonates with me at all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489330
8/23/2008 7:56 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
Hi again OP.
Are you able to get a pet, a cat or a dog?
I do notice that with my husband, he does a lot better when we have lots of hugs and cuddles, and not so well without.
Bodies really need the closeness of other bodies, and they do a lot to heal each other without our conscious involvement.
I'm not talking sex here either.
A loving companion can do much to ease the pain of loneliness, and even much more. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 400833
8/23/2008 8:10 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
I agree with the analogy of "five days after the death of a child/spouse/parent" is what living with CD is like. Maybe 4 days actually.
My parter has been suffering with this depth of depression for years. It finally got to the point where the shrinks had tried EVERYTHING in terms of drugs out there. Nothing worked. Most made it worse. A few turned him into a lunatic.
Then the most recent doc said "there is a new drug for Maniac Dpressive Syndrome" which has been used with some success in drug resistent depression. IT's call Abilify.
My partner started it about a month ago. It's like he's come back from the dead! He's doing projects, painting, reading, watching the news again, he's back to life! He says he doesn't feel happy, but he doesn't feel that he wants to die, either. Big improvement here.
Don't know if it's going to hold for the long term. But if not, there are other members of this "family" of drugs he can try. But for the first time in years, there is some hope. And I don't feel like I'm living with a fucking corpse that's still walking a bit.
I'm almost afraid to hope but this does seem to have made a huge difference in a few weeks. |
| Brwnstown
User ID: 465293
8/23/2008 8:20 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
its the same as if your spouse or children died and youd be about at the 5 day mark. so clinical depression is like 5 days after the death of someone very close, only its everyday 24/7/365
So, 5 days after the death of someone very close, would you?:
- be able to work?
- be able to concentrate enough to drive a car?
- be able to read very well, or do anything very well like errands or chores?
- would SSRI drugs bring relief? (no)
- be sick to your stomach a lot, have weird body sensation?
- feel like crying a lot?
- alternate between lying down and pacing, begging for torture to end?
So, i observe that major depression is about the same amount of suffering and same behavior as someone in around the 5 day mark of morning after losing someone like a spouse or child. The only difference is, the depression is constant, life long whereas the morning loss is temporary and gets better with time.
Thats the analogy. Just from major depression, I feel just as bad now as i did after my father committed suicide in 1996, if not worse.
So thats how intense major depression is. equal to losing a close person, only goes on daily and never changes. Quoting: Analogy 489316
I was diagnosed manic depressive almost 21 yrs ago. And sometimes the depressive cycle is really bad and long and then other times during the mania up swings you feel better
but are not yourself and take lots of risky chances.
I too have giving up on doctors and pills its all bull, counseling is iffy at best.
Hopefully you dont end up like me my illness cost me my family and a couple really good jobs, shit happens and life sucks but i put on the happy face and raise my kids and continue to hide from myself.
Thats why i'm glad i found this place it helps take my mind off of things when i need it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488432
8/23/2008 8:29 PM | | Re: Having clinical depression is the same as living the death of a close person, forever | Quote |
its the same as if your spouse or children died and youd be about at the 5 day mark. so clinical depression is like 5 days after the death of someone very close, only its everyday 24/7/365
So, 5 days after the death of someone very close, would you?:
- be able to work?
- be able to concentrate enough to drive a car?
- be able to read very well, or do anything very well like errands or chores?
- would SSRI drugs bring relief? (no)
- be sick to your stomach a lot, have weird body sensation?
- feel like crying a lot?
- alternate between lying down and pacing, begging for torture to end?
So, i observe that major depression is about the same amount of suffering and same behavior as someone in around the 5 day mark of morning after losing someone like a spouse or child. The only difference is, the depression is constant, life long whereas the morning loss is temporary and gets better with time.
Thats the analogy. Just from major depression, I feel just as bad now as i did after my father committed suicide in 1996, if not worse.
So thats how intense major depression is. equal to losing a close person, only goes on daily and never changes. Quoting: Analogy 489316
depression is a symptom that the real you has died |
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