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Are These Chemtrails??
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/22/2008 11:47 PM
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Please tell us your opinion on PX.
When?
What do youthink is th e best evidence?
Any good links?
Oh. See, that's another example of believing something without firm evidence.
100s of comets hitting the Sun from the same diection is powerful evidence, stupid. Stick to topics you've been trained on, spook.
Holy shit! You're a PX'er too??
ever notice my name stupid? lol
You admit you are a PX'er and then call me stupid??
Well, this DOES explain alot.
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/22/2008 11:49 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Apparently cameras don't have zoom lenses where you come from?
Notice the telphone lines, retard. You obviously do not know much about photography. hilarious.
And you do? Know anything about focal length? Specifically this example
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Notice how the close object looks about the same but the far object appears closer and with more detail?
Your claims that you can see too much detail and hence the mythical "chemtrails" are low in the pics is what is hilarious.
lol. your photo is of objects inches away. hilarious. Ask the OP. He took the pics.
OP tell us...
Yes, hilarious that you can't understand that the example I provided can apply to other scales. Here is another example
[ link to www.kevinwilley.com]
Simply put you have no proof that the contrails in the original picture were not at the high altitudes they would be expected to be.
LOL. OK, NOW YOU MOVED FROM A FEW INCHES TO A FEW YARDS.
HILARIOUS.
26,000 FEET IS HOW FAR, GENIOUS?
DONT STOP KNOW, KEEP GOING...
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/22/2008 11:51 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Please tell us your opinion on PX.
When?
What do youthink is th e best evidence?
Any good links?
Oh. See, that's another example of believing something without firm evidence.
100s of comets hitting the Sun from the same diection is powerful evidence, stupid. Stick to topics you've been trained on, spook.
Holy shit! You're a PX'er too??
ever notice my name stupid? lol
You admit you are a PX'er and then call me stupid??
Well, this DOES explain alot.
PX IS A GREAT TOPIC. TOO BAD YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO DEBATE IT. I AM SURE YOU CANT KEEP UP. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/22/2008 11:55 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 341923
BTW, OP was standing on the ground and the telephon pole was not moving nor was the ground, so you be extemely stupid. hilarious. |
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/22/2008 11:56 PM
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Please tell us your opinion on PX.
When?
What do youthink is th e best evidence?
Any good links?
Oh. See, that's another example of believing something without firm evidence.
100s of comets hitting the Sun from the same diection is powerful evidence, stupid. Stick to topics you've been trained on, spook.
Holy shit! You're a PX'er too??
ever notice my name stupid? lol
You admit you are a PX'er and then call me stupid??
Well, this DOES explain alot.
PX IS A GREAT TOPIC. TOO BAD YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO DEBATE IT. I AM SURE YOU CANT KEEP UP.
Try me skippy. I'll hand you your ass. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341923
8/22/2008 11:59 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
The page that helps to explain the above.
[ link to www.kevinwilley.com]
BTW, OP was standing on the ground and the telephon pole was not moving nor was the ground, so you be extemely stupid. hilarious.
Who said anything had to be moving? The example was posted to show how a background object can appear to be closer depending on the lens. Apparently you can't understand that. You're digging yourself a hole here. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/22/2008 11:59 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Try me skippy. I'll hand you your ass. Quoting: Nighthawk
Ok, bobby tell me about the 100's of comets hitting the sun in the last 1-2 yrs. explain their orbits to me. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/23/2008 12:02 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
The page that helps to explain the above.
[ link to www.kevinwilley.com]
BTW, OP was standing on the ground and the telephon pole was not moving nor was the ground, so you be extemely stupid. hilarious.
Who said anything had to be moving? The example was posted to show how a background object can appear to be closer depending on the lens. Apparently you can't understand that. You're digging yourself a hole here.
dufus, i take photos and I am well aware of what you are saying. everyone knows that.
it just does not apply to OP's 3 pics
apply your point to his pics. you cant. you prove nothing with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341923
8/23/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
The page that helps to explain the above.
[ link to www.kevinwilley.com]
BTW, OP was standing on the ground and the telephon pole was not moving nor was the ground, so you be extemely stupid. hilarious.
Who said anything had to be moving? The example was posted to show how a background object can appear to be closer depending on the lens. Apparently you can't understand that. You're digging yourself a hole here.
dufus, i take photos and I am well aware of what you are saying. everyone knows that.
it just does not apply to OP's 3 pics
apply your point to his pics. you cant. you prove nothing with it.
The whole point was that YOU can't prove that the clouds were lower than expected. I posted a reason why not. The point was applied. You're just too pigheaded to see it. |
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/23/2008 12:10 AM
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Try me skippy. I'll hand you your ass.
Ok, bobby tell me about the 100's of comets hitting the sun in the last 1-2 yrs. explain their orbits to me. Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 489234
What is so unusual about comets impacting the Sun? This has been observed for over a 1000 years. They are called "Sungrazers" most of what we see hit the Sun are from the Kreutz sungrazing group.
There orbits are such that they hit the Sun. So what?? Is this unusual somehow? Or are you implying that no comets should ever hit the Sun? |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/23/2008 12:16 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
The page that helps to explain the above.
[ link to www.kevinwilley.com]
BTW, OP was standing on the ground and the telephon pole was not moving nor was the ground, so you be extemely stupid. hilarious.
Who said anything had to be moving? The example was posted to show how a background object can appear to be closer depending on the lens. Apparently you can't understand that. You're digging yourself a hole here.
dufus, i take photos and I am well aware of what you are saying. everyone knows that.
it just does not apply to OP's 3 pics
apply your point to his pics. you cant. you prove nothing with it.
The whole point was that YOU can't prove that the clouds were lower than expected. I posted a reason why not. The point was applied. You're just too pigheaded to see it.
it's not on point. it can explain how 2 pics can be compared and explained. move on. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/23/2008 12:20 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Try me skippy. I'll hand you your ass.
Ok, bobby tell me about the 100's of comets hitting the sun in the last 1-2 yrs. explain their orbits to me.
What is so unusual about comets impacting the Sun? This has been observed for over a 1000 years. They are called "Sungrazers" most of what we see hit the Sun are from the Kreutz sungrazing group.
There orbits are such that they hit the Sun. So what?? Is this unusual somehow? Or are you implying that no comets should ever hit the Sun? Quoting: Nighthawk
lol. google is a great tool, uh?
led you right to the gov i see
Kreutz = ridiculous fiction
prove it, bobby.
An imginary GIANT comet existed but a PX cant?
You you see the conflict, retard? |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489234
8/23/2008 12:24 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
a giant comet that spaws hundreds of giant comets separated my many millions of miles.
how does it explain the many 4 o clock positon comet, bobby?
this should be good |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 12:31 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
bobby, do you needs some links? |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 12:31 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 12:32 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
can't find an explanation, uh bobby? |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 12:36 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
baaaabbeeeeee...
baaaabbeeeeee...
Bobby I hear your mom calling you. |
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The Guy 
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
8/23/2008 12:41 AM
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a giant comet that spaws hundreds of giant comets separated my many millions of miles.
how does it explain the many 4 o clock positon comet, bobby?
this should be good Quoting: DarkStarCrashes 489234
I personally think it'd be cool if Planet X existed, but the evidence is weak so far.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
a giant comet that spaws hundreds of giant comets separated my many millions of miles.
how does it explain the many 4 o clock positon comet, bobby?
this should be good
I personally think it'd be cool if Planet X existed, but the evidence is weak so far. Quoting: The Guy
What do you expect? a neon sign?
you obviously know little about the topic.
the 8 o'clock/4 o clock comets are pretty good evidence.
the comets orbit PX.
it is the best explanation for them.
911 was done because of the earth changes that are coming. |
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/23/2008 12:50 AM
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Why can't Kreutz's theory of where these sungrazers come from be true?
Apparently the paper he wrote explaining this was reviewed and accepted as accurate. It was found that a lot of larger sungrazer comets were part of his "large" comet. Comets do break up. Look at Shoemaker-Levy.
As for the "increase" of comets. Our observing equipment has greatly improved recently. Namely, SOHO. Until SOHO, most sungrazers were very hard to see. Now we can observe them at anytime. Since 1995, with the help of SOHO, we have discovered over 1100 new comets. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 1:02 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Why can't Kreutz's theory of where these sungrazers come from be true?
Apparently the paper he wrote explaining this was reviewed and accepted as accurate. It was found that a lot of larger sungrazer comets were part of his "large" comet. Comets do break up. Look at Shoemaker-Levy.
As for the "increase" of comets. Our observing equipment has greatly improved recently. Namely, SOHO. Until SOHO, most sungrazers were very hard to see. Now we can observe them at anytime. Since 1995, with the help of SOHO, we have discovered over 1100 new comets. Quoting: Nighthawk
cause it fails common sense.
NASA lies about everything.
its a fraud to explain the PX comets.
the gov experts also say WTC7 fell from fire
they lie about everything. And they tell BIG lies.
if you giant comets exists, then PX can be real too.
you cant have it both ways.
EXPLAIN THE 4 O'CLOCK COMETS. YOU CANT.
YOU CANT IGNORE THE EVIDENCE OU DONT LIKE. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 1:08 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE 8 & 4 THING AND HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT IS? |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489556
8/23/2008 1:17 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Beam Me Up
the mop up crew will arrive shortly. |
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/23/2008 1:36 AM
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Actually, if something like PX were true I can see why NASA and the Gov would lie about it. However, There are plenty of amateur astronomers who would be screaming about this PX if it did exist. Not a whimper from any of them.
Honestly, I do not know what you are getting at with the 4 o'clock/8 o'clock comets. If you are implying that PX is somehow effecting the orbits of these comets, then why isn't other things being effected? (i.e. Mercury)
If you are saying that these comets are part of PX then why can't we see PX itself?
So far there has been no evidence of the existance of PX. No pictures. No orbital anomolies of anything in the Solar System.
The only things are from a nutcase in Wisconsin who got her inspiration from an unwrapped piece of candy and another fruitcake who completely screwed up his reading of Sumerian tablets. |
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Pit bull
User ID: 489287
8/23/2008 5:34 AM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Actually, if something like PX were true I can see why NASA and the Gov would lie about it. However, There are plenty of amateur astronomers who would be screaming about this PX if it did exist. Not a whimper from any of them.
Honestly, I do not know what you are getting at with the 4 o'clock/8 o'clock comets. If you are implying that PX is somehow effecting the orbits of these comets, then why isn't other things being effected? (i.e. Mercury)
If you are saying that these comets are part of PX then why can't we see PX itself?
So far there has been no evidence of the existance of PX. No pictures. No orbital anomolies of anything in the Solar System.
The only things are from a nutcase in Wisconsin who got her inspiration from an unwrapped piece of candy and another fruitcake who completely screwed up his reading of Sumerian tablets. Quoting: Nighthawk
I've read on the internet that px itself will not bring the damage by itself but it will trigger the sun to become brighter anfd this has been observed happening to other stars like the sun in the galaxies some stars became more than 100 times more brighter this can only be done with massive solar flares. PX itself could be of dark matter a brown dwarf just passing by. I guess we will be able to see it in the middle of 2009 and i do think that chemtrails have a connection with this event. The international seed vault could also have something to do with it.
But clearly something is happening and the government is putting all it's energy to suppress it. Because ler's be honest if you knew now that you will die in 2012 would you still work and pay your taxes to the government and why are all the countries in this world suddenly in the last decade or so turning into fascist states because they know once this gets mainstraim it's over for them then they can only hide in secret bunkers from the angry mob.
If you want i can look up for some links in the internet.
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Nighthawk
User ID: 417071
8/23/2008 9:26 AM
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Zephyros
User ID: 487402
8/23/2008 5:38 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489311
No. Those are contrails.
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Contrails are visible line clouds that form behind aircraft flying in sufficiently cold air as a result of water vapor emissions. Contrail formation can be accurately predicted for given atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions. In the exhaust, water droplets form on soot and sulfuric acid particles, then freeze to form contrail particles. Models suggest that contrails would also form without soot and sulfur emissions by activation and freezing of background particles. Increasing fuel sulfur content results in more and smaller ice particles. In the future, aircraft with more fuel-efficient engines will produce lower exhaust temperatures for the same concentration of emitted water vapor, hence will tend to cause contrails at higher ambient temperatures and over a larger altitude range.
Persistent contrails often develop into more extensive contrail cirrus in ice-supersaturated air masses. Ice particles in such persistent contrails grow by uptake of water vapor from the surrounding air. The area of the Earth covered by persistent contrails is controlled by the global extent of ice-supersaturated air masses and the number of aircraft flights in those air masses. Present contrail cover will increase further as air traffic increases. The properties of persistent contrails depend on the aerosol formed in exhaust plumes. Regions of ice-supersaturation vary with time and location and are estimated to cover an average of 10 to 20% of the Earth's surface at mid-latitudes. Ice-supersaturation in these regions is often too small to allow cirrus to form naturally, so aircraft act as a trigger to form cirrus clouds.
... Quoting: WMO UNEP and IPCC
[link to www.grida.no]
Also...
IMAGE ( [link to www.grida.no]
[link to www.grida.no]
Figure 3-4: Water vapor partial pressure and temperature measurements and calculations from various contrail studies. Symbols indicate measured ambient conditions of temperature and H2O abundance behind various identified aircraft. Measurements are grouped using visual observations of contrails into three categories: (a) The existence of contrails is confirmed, (b) contrails were just at the limit of formation or disappearance, and (c) contrails were not observed. Liquid and ice saturation pressure are given by full and dashed curves, respectively. The thin line connected to each symbol represents the mixing line of plume states between ambient and engine exit conditions. The mixing lines have altitude- and engine-dependent slopes given by the expression EI(H2O) cp p (0.622 Q(1 - h))-1, which includes the emission index of water vapor, the specific heat capacity of air cp, the ambient pressure p, the ratio of molar masses of water and air (0.622), and the effective specific combustion heat Q(1 - h), where h is the overall efficiency of propulsion for the aircraft and Q is the fuel-specific heat of combustion. Because contrails are observed only when the mixing line crosses (in (a)) or at least touches (in (b)) the liquid water saturation curve, these observations are consistent with the modified Schmidt-Appleman criterion used to predict contrail occurrence (from Kärcher et al., 1998a). Quoting: The figure caption
That there is a spraying operation is a myth.
These contrails are evidence of the fact there there are regions in the atmosphere that are ice-saturated.
That "normal contrails" can appear alongside "chemtrails", or that the "chemtrails" sometimes appear to "sputter" is evidence that those regions are patchy both horizontally and vertically.
The occurrence of contrails depends on the environmental conditions at aircraft cruise altitude. It depends on the weather. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489907
8/23/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Chemtrails are an internet myth.
G.House what evidence do you have that they are an internet myth? Sorry about all the questions just trying to learn here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489311
Because all they are are contrails.
Read this.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Contrails or vapour trails are condensation trails and Artificial clouds made by the exhaust of aircraft engines or wingtip vortices which precipitate a stream of tiny ice crystals in moist, frigid upper air. |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 489981
8/23/2008 8:18 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Anyone who continues to deny the existence of chemtrails is a fool, a dink, or they work for the companies that fly them.
When these planes can be seen flying the trails, low enough to see the plane details, and then they turn around and fly back without the trail, you might be a dumb ass if you don't get that these are being deliberately laid.
When you live in an area that has virtually no air traffic, and you see 2 to 4 planes flying the grid in 15 minutes or less, then watch them fly back done with their jobs for the day, you'd have to be a dumbass not to wonder what the hell is going on.
There is a goverment agency headed by Kay Bailey Hutchinson, a Texas Rep, that is in charge of the chemtrail tech.
There is a goverment patent, [ link to patft.uspto.gov]
NOAA's website carries info about the chemtrail legislation, [ link to www.legislative.noaa.gov]
Here is a link to a chemtrail plane photo, [ link to www.rense.com]
You can visit my website chemtrail annex, where you will find many pertinent links to some of the best chemtrail websites on the net, including legislation.
[ link to www.chemtrails.bravehost.com]
If chemtrails are a myth as the uneducated claim, can those uneducated dinks who don't look up, and don't know the difference, please explain why you are completely unaware that there are goverment agencies involved ? Can the uneducated explain why they don't know how to google to research this 'bold in your face' admission by the government ?
If chemtrails don't exist, why is there legislation that controls, creates, and explains the use of chemtrails ?
I'm just saying, looks like those trying to debunk this have no real education about the subject. It seems that what they are really trying to prove is how badly uneducated and incapable of doing the research they are.
Must be hard going through life not looking up, not looking things up, and sounding like a dufus because of it. Your mommas didn't miss their chances to raise fools. |
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DarkStarCrashes
User ID: 489979
8/23/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: Are These Chemtrails?? | Quote |
Chemtrails are an internet myth.
G.House what evidence do you have that they are an internet myth? Sorry about all the questions just trying to learn here.
Because all they are are contrails.
Read this.
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Contrails or vapour trails are condensation trails and Artificial clouds made by the exhaust of aircraft engines or wingtip vortices which precipitate a stream of tiny ice crystals in moist, frigid upper air.
wow, this genious solved it. we can al relax now.  |
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