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Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 3:53 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
YOU said "The Moon Landings were fake because there were no stars, and NASA COULD NOT HAVE DONE THE STARS." Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Nope, I never said anything of the sort. I did say we, meaning us who know its a hoax, have no responsibilty to explain why they/nasa screwed it up so bad.
And remember, your presence here is THE best evidence of a scam. Truth doesnt need defenders. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 3:54 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Truth needs no defenders.
Ignorance, however, always needs detractors. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Remember, your presence here is THE best evidence of the scam.
Truth needs no defenders. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 3:58 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Ignorance, however, always needs detractors. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Na, it really does not. |
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nomuse (NLI)
User ID: 491453
8/29/2008 4:10 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
I did say we, meaning us who know its a hoax, have no responsibilty to explain why they/nasa screwed it up so bad.
And remember, your presence here is THE best evidence of a scam. Truth doesnt need defenders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Nope. That was your fall-back position when your argument that NASA _couldn't_ get the stars right was shown to be trivially disprovable.
The fact that you chose to argue NOW that "NASA just screwed up randomly" does not save you from having been wrong previously. If you had any guts at all you'd admit it and move on. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:13 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Nope. That was your fall-back position when your argument that NASA _couldn't_ get the stars right was shown to be trivially disprovable.
The fact that you chose to argue NOW that "NASA just screwed up randomly" does not save you from having been wrong previously. If you had any guts at all you'd admit it and move on. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Nope. You must be confusing me with another poster. Please quote where I posted that. The stars are just one in a myriad of anomalies which should not exist.
And remember, your presence here is THE best evidence for a fraud. Truth needs no defenders. |
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nomuse (NLI)
User ID: 491453
8/29/2008 4:14 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Ignorance, however, always needs detractors.
Na, it really does not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
"Is so!"
"Is not!"
Boy, are you lame. Ignorance in an increasingly technological world is dangerous, not just to the ignorant but to those put in harms way by them.
But even outside of this, maintaining personal ignorance is counter-productive. It ensures you'll get only boring jobs (although some of them can make a great deal of money), that much that happens around you is as beyond your perception as Beethoven is to a dog, and that basically your life is more boring and more insular. Learning is exciting. Learning makes you more involved, and keeps your mind active; it can even help you live longer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:19 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Nope. That was your fall-back position when your argument that NASA _couldn't_ get the stars right was shown to be trivially disprovable.
The fact that you chose to argue NOW that "NASA just screwed up randomly" does not save you from having been wrong previously. If you had any guts at all you'd admit it and move on.
Nope. You must be confusing me with another poster. Please quote where I posted that. The stars are just one in a myriad of anomalies which should not exist.
And remember, your presence here is THE best evidence for a fraud. Truth needs no defenders.
You've GOT to be kidding...are there STILL people ignorant enough to not understand the photographic lack of stars? Have you EVER used a camera? What f-stop settings and shutter speed do you use in full sunlight? Then, what f-stops and shutter speeds does it take to pick up stars at night? Case closed.
You HB idiots are so fucking naive! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:20 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
does not save you from having been wrong previously. If you had any guts at all you'd admit it and move on. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
No need to be saved from anything. You are obviously confusing who posted what. You have a tough job keeping poster's straight.
Guts is not an issue. A scam is a scam. Whether its 3 card monty or a moon hoax, people eventually see behind the curtain. |
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nomuse (NLI)
User ID: 491453
8/29/2008 4:21 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Nope. You must be confusing me with another poster. Please quote where I posted that. The stars are just one in a myriad of anomalies which should not exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Perhaps. You all sound alike, and you are all too lazy to spend the one keystroke needed to affix memorable handles to your less-memorable posts.
Not that it matters; here on GLP, we are so lousy with sock puppets and random me-too's it doesn't really matter who an argument originated with.
Nor does it matter in the domain of science. If Richard Feynman had said the sky is red it would be just as wrong as if Alfred E. Neumann had said it. Although it may stroke the egos of some to think that debate on scientific and technical subjects is about THEM and what THEY say, it is actually about the ideas. And the ideas are independent of the source.
That said, does anyone still reading this thread believe that either;
A) the positions of stars as visible from the Moon are so "different" as to be easily detectable by a trained observer from a photograph taken there, and;
B) that it would somehow be impossible to set up any sort of fake star backdrop in this discoverable configuration? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:21 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Nope. That was your fall-back position when your argument that NASA _couldn't_ get the stars right was shown to be trivially disprovable.
The fact that you chose to argue NOW that "NASA just screwed up randomly" does not save you from having been wrong previously. If you had any guts at all you'd admit it and move on. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Awaiting you to post my quote. I notice you cannot. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:23 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Nope. You must be confusing me with another poster. Please quote where I posted that. The stars are just one in a myriad of anomalies which should not exist.
Perhaps. You all sound alike Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Ok, we are making progress, you admitted you were wrong about me posting that.
Apology accepted. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:27 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
WOW 10 pages of posts over this pos tv show? You people are truly sick, except the guy above, who's apparently a genius.
Why, thank you. I'm not, though, I'm just educated and have made the choice to inform myself of the actual facts, rather than rely on empty, pointless trolling. How about you?
Trolling.
But seriously, "Nasa is wrong" dude come on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493229
Care to be specific about your doubts? We'd love to discuss them in detail. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:27 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
B) that it would somehow be impossible to set up any sort of fake star backdrop in this discoverable configuration? Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
Irrelevant, really. It was so obviously a set, so it is all moot.
High School Audio and Visual Clubs could have likely done a better fake.
They could fool people in 1969, but today, uh un. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
That these threads go on for so many pages is the best evidence that it's a hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
This is only an idication of the ignorance of those claiming the landings to be a hoax. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
you are all too lazy to spend the one keystroke needed to affix memorable handles Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 491453
So we should be making your job easier, huh? And it is your job, or some really weird obsession. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:30 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
rather than rely on empty, pointless trolling. How about you?
Barls always sreams "trolls!" when the curtain starts to fall on all the lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Can you point out where anything he's said is a lie?
Be specific and provide references. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:30 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
This is only an idication of the ignorance of those claiming the landings to be a hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:32 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
And what would be your rebuttal to Jay Whindley's answer; "Why doesn't NASA hire that professional astronomer to direct the painting, then?"
It needs no rebuttal. No one needs to explain why Nasa screwed things up so bad. They did, and thats the way it is. The fact that you are here defending this Wizard of Oz BS is the best evidence that its all a fraud. Remember, truth needs no defenders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Your logic is attrocious. Its obvious that you're no match to even attempt to contradict Barls. If you think otherwise, have at it. Let's see your evidence. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:33 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Be specific and provide references. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
Not needed. Only those making the claims of a manned moon landing need the proofs. The rest of us can either choose to believe the ridiculous claim, or disbelieve. We need no evidence or proofs in any event. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:34 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Your logic is attrocious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
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DrPostman  
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
8/29/2008 4:36 PM
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I suppose you think the woman's foot in this photo actually
turned translucent:
[link to www1.imagebeaver.com]
Not needed. Only those making the claims of a manned moon landing need the proofs. The rest of us can either choose to believe the ridiculous claim, or disbelieve. We need no evidence or proofs in any event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Sorry, your claim that we never went is extraordinary. And
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You
can poke holes in any subject you want to but to back up
your assertion that no man has ever walked on the moon will
require some actual evidence.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:36 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Its obvious that you're no match to even attempt to contradict Barls. If you think otherwise, have at it. Let's see your evidence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
I think we found Barls.
LEM>>>>>  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493448
8/29/2008 4:37 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Be specific and provide references.
Not needed. Only those making the claims of a manned moon landing need the proofs. The rest of us can either choose to believe the ridiculous claim, or disbelieve. We need no evidence or proofs in any event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
Evasion noted.
BTW, it is the one making the claim that runs against established ideas that has the burdon of proof. The VAST majority of scientists and engineers around the world are fully satisfied that the landings took place as stated. It is YOU who are making the claim that YOU know better than they. So it is YOU who have the burdon of proof. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:39 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Sorry, your claim that we never went is extraordinary. Quoting: DrPostman
Nope, sorry. I disbelieve the extraordinary claim of a manned landing.
Each can form his own decision on these extraordinary claims.
If I claimed I went to Jupiter this morning, well, then I would need evidence. The disbeliever would not need to show anything. Thats how it works. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:40 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
burdon of proof. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:43 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
BTW, it is the one making the claim that runs against established ideas that has the burdon of proof. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
Negative. The person making an affirmative claim (that they did something extraordinary) always has the burden of proof. The disbeliever has zero burden of proof. But you knew that.
Established ideas mean zero. Established ideas once said that the earth was flat. Barls, you are slipping, dude. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:44 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Evasion noted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493448
Nothing for me to evade. I dont believe they went. Why does that scare you so?
You being here is the best evidence they did not go.
If they went, you would not need to be here. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493369
8/29/2008 4:47 PM | | Re: Myth Busters is doing a show on the Moon Landing. | Quote |
Sorry, your claim that we never went is extraordinary. And
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Quoting: DrPostman
Nope. Only those making the affirmative claim need proof.
A disbeleiver needs zero proof. |
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DrPostman
Forum Moderator
User ID: 51197
8/29/2008 4:52 PM
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Sorry, your claim that we never went is extraordinary.
Nope, sorry. I disbelieve the extraordinary claim of a manned landing.
Each can form his own decision on these extraordinary claims.
If I claimed I went to Jupiter this morning, well, then I would need evidence. The disbeliever would not need to show anything. Thats how it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
To claim that we never went to the Moon flies in the face
of evidence that is accepted by millions of scientists around
the world and is only based on faulty claims that fail in
the light of exposure. No one in the scientific community
supports the idea that we never went to the Moon. It is
therefore extraordinary to claim we didn't. If disbelief
is all that is required to dismiss evidence then the
scientific method wouldn't work.
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DrPostman
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User ID: 51197
8/29/2008 4:55 PM
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Nothing for me to evade. I dont believe they went. Why does that scare you so? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493369
It worries me that the US is increasingly too lazy to learn
and understand actual science and is falling behind the rest
of the world. This country used to have a top notch science
curriculum. Belief that we never went to the Moon requires a
great deal of ignorance of science, just as belief that the
world is only 10,000 years old. Yet you find support for
those in the US in numbers you do not find in other nations.
"It's kinda like creating a carpool lane on the internet, except instead of
high-occupancy vehicles, only rich assholes will be able to drive on it"
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