How old are you? I'm just asking because I felt the same then I realized maybe that's what all the older people were thinking when my favourites came out. The commercial radio stuff is so manufactured though. I don't know again that could be apart of the aging process.
Hillcrest Not For You* User ID: 392015 8/23/2008 3:41 AM
I think a lot of the problem is the recording process itself. Everything is cold, more mechanical. I mean, music itself has not changed.
Last I knew, no one created a new music. Meaning that a chord is a chord is a chord. Progressions whether it be I V, I IV V, II V I, or something like II, VI, IV V I, or whatever are nothing new.
Elivs, Buddy Rich, Mozart, Beach Boys, Metallica are all using the same notes.
All this being said, I also thing people have changed and music takes on different meanings and different relationships throughout our life. you're not the only one who thinks I don't know what I'm doing.
Hillcrest Not For You* User ID: 392015 8/23/2008 3:51 AM
there are some good bands out there, especially some of the indie stuff..but alot of that sound is getting played out..and everyone is trying to sound "indie" now.
listen to some EDM if you want a change
Anonymous Coward User ID: 483077 8/23/2008 6:52 AM
Creativity is what has been lost. The innocence of the '50s gave way to the drugs in the sixties. The druggies had children - genetic damage. These kids grew up and had children, and then these children had children - and the drugs were always there. Music began to turn dark in the 80s, became dead in the 90s, and now there are no more creative geniuses out there. The talentless rose up; people who could not carry a tune to the front door let alone the end of the block. The audiences have no taste, and think the talentless are good entertainment. Will the problem ever be corrected? No.
Winningjob Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. User ID: 385114 8/23/2008 6:56 AM
Creativity is what has been lost. The innocence of the '50s gave way to the drugs in the sixties. The druggies had children - genetic damage. These kids grew up and had children, and then these children had children - and the drugs were always there. Music began to turn dark in the 80s, became dead in the 90s, and now there are no more creative geniuses out there. The talentless rose up; people who could not carry a tune to the front door let alone the end of the block. The audiences have no taste, and think the talentless are good entertainment. Will the problem ever be corrected? No.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483077
Interesting theory..however, are you saying drugs are the reason? If so, I don't agree as, in the classical times the composers were drunks and on other things. During the Jazz era they smoked, weed, drank and did other things as well...
So, I guess what I am saying is did people really change, did the drugs or did the music? Maybe society has changed and although the spirit is still the same, the outlets are different? you're not the only one who thinks I don't know what I'm doing.
If you've been around for awhile, or listened to
many styles over the years, you know how fucked we
are.
Expect few to understand.
Quoting: Jomama
Well, I agree with Jomama there..music and all art reflects current society. However, why wouldn't they understand? you're not the only one who thinks I don't know what I'm doing.
Might be part of the effort to eliminate all beauty from our environment.
There are a lot of good stuff there though if you think international We are all ONE. I feel your pain, and -if you open up enough- you can share my joy as well. As empathy is growing on personal and global level, so the world becomes a better place to live. Fight, competition, hate, fear, anger, guilt will be "losers".
There is only ONE commandment, it is coming from inside: DON'T HARM (except when you defend yourself).
Anonymous Coward User ID: 355631 8/23/2008 2:32 PM
The process of decay really accelerated with the switch from analog to digital. Purged all the warmth and humanity from the sound. Couple that with the fact that so few "contemporary artists" are unable to actually perform their music live today and you kill that beautiful energy even further. Just go back and look at Youtube videos of live concerts of groups from the 60's and 70's...where the bands actually "created" something unique and beautiful and powerful by feeding off the enegy of the crowd. When people went to a concert, they did not EXPECT that everything would be EXACTLY the same as the version of the song on the album. They did, however, expect that the band would actually PLAY their instruments and perform live. Not so anymore. Remember when Milli Vanilli won the Grammy without singing a note? It's a short disatnce from them to the likes of Brittany Spears. And the process of energetic devolution is not random or accidental at all.It's deliberate and manipulated.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 355631 8/23/2008 2:38 PM
For a while there, I thought it wwas just that I was getting old, like the parents hated my heavy metal cause it wasnt´like their Elvis and shit.
But, now I realize that that´s not it. Music today DOES suck. It sucks badly. It´s because it became a big business. THey aren´t creating music, it´s PRODUCT. Product to move UNITS.
No more garage bands creating something fresh out of their own minds. Not that they don´t exist, but there is no way they will get record deals, unless they are cute, choreographed, syncopated, boob enhanced. Like Britney Spears. Am I the only one to realize that she has NO TALENT WHATSOEVER?
I blame rap music.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 487804 8/23/2008 2:40 PM
The music industry killed music by pushing only the super commercial crap that could sell millions of units. Good music has to do with feeling not sales figures. Plus the switch to digital took the collaboration out because you didn't have to play at the same time. Plus digital makes everything "perfect" not good. Lastly, if bands can't play around live, they don't have a chance to get really tight and synched with each other.
I haven't liked music since the first punk stuff... Now i listen to middle eastern, indian, and techno ambient, tho it never gets me off the way I want it to...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 486700 8/23/2008 2:48 PM
Creativity is what has been lost. The innocence of the '50s gave way to the drugs in the sixties. The druggies had children - genetic damage. These kids grew up and had children, and then these children had children - and the drugs were always there. Music began to turn dark in the 80s, became dead in the 90s, and now there are no more creative geniuses out there. The talentless rose up; people who could not carry a tune to the front door let alone the end of the block. The audiences have no taste, and think the talentless are good entertainment. Will the problem ever be corrected? No.
Interesting theory..however, are you saying drugs are the reason? If so, I don't agree as, in the classical times the composers were drunks and on other things. During the Jazz era they smoked, weed, drank and did other things as well...
So, I guess what I am saying is did people really change, did the drugs or did the music? Maybe society has changed and although the spirit is still the same, the outlets are different?
Quoting: Winningjob
Music is spiritual.
Music comes from one's spirit.
You said, "in the classical times, the composers were drunks, ..." The difference is that in those times, people, though far from perfect, had a deep spirituality.
TPTB have tried, and succeeded in many cases, to kill our spiritual selves. The dark spirits have been encouraged, and the light spirits have been thrown out the door.
When spirituality is gone, creativity is gone.
imho
Anonymous Coward User ID: 480573 8/23/2008 2:52 PM
TPTB have tried, and succeeded in many cases, to kill our spiritual selves. The dark spirits have been encouraged, and the light spirits have been thrown out the door.
When spirituality is gone, creativity is gone.
imho
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486700
i agree, very true ...he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18
Anonymous Coward User ID: 489835 8/23/2008 2:54 PM
it really is stagnant isn't it?i mean that as the mainstream garbage.there is awesome thought provoking hip-hop with real lyricists.then theres crunk type stuff like t-pain.for example:
then there is the grand idiocy of the whole 80s revival.i see the kids with member's only jackets and rolled up headbands.god knows the shoulder pads and rolled up crocket jackets are next.
there is great friggin music,your just not going to hear most of it on mainstream radio.none of the presets are programmed to any stations.its all cds and mp3s for me:)
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