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Was John Smith Murdered

 
Bushblaircriminals
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After the conclusion of the Diane inquest whitewash, I began thinking of all the other assassinations, cook, kelly, JFK jr, JFK, King, X, not to mention 911. Smith would have been an old time Labour PM. Something the NWO Illuminati establishment could not accept. Remember the talk of a coup when Wilson was in power. So Smith dies and Blair becomes PM. Blair who creates new labour, supports GM, university fees, the dismembering of british society, gambling, war in Iraq, Afghanistan. blair was placed by his NWO illuminati masters.
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Nothing would surprise me now. He got his momentum from John Smith.

That is true.
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It's all to smooth to be a coincidence. For New Labour read neo nazi or neo cons, or New Tory. All of Blairs policies, and direction have been to the far right. If you find the 26 articles of mission by the illuminati on the web, blair has followed them all. Having said all this i saw a photo of him a couple of days ago, he's lost weight and looks so healthy, shame he is a mass murdering war criminal stooge..... but hey!
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Blimey, the penny droped when i read your post, of course he was topped it was a sure thing that labour was gonna win the election. We were all fed up with the tories making the country worse, labour was bound to improve things , . But what happens things are shit, so you vote for the opposing party they make things worse so you vote for the opposing party, they make things worse so you...... Uk is a police state where the general public get screwed and criminals get treated with kid gloves.
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Yes, I believe he was murdered in order to allow Bliar to get the leadership.

BTW, did you read about the police search helicopter that flew over the place where David Kelly supposedly died 90 minutes earlier, yet they saw nothing on the heat detecting camera? So where was David Kelly at that time?
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without a doubt.
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it seems like we are living in a police state with a hidden agenda. When new labour came in blair stated education, eduction, education, perhaps what he meant was brainwashing, brainwashing, brainwashing. Look at the youth of britain now, for years everyone was detterred from discipling these youths (parents, teachers, police) and now we see the result. Violent criminals are being increasingly given cautions. Prosecution and arrests for knife crime have dropped by 50% in the last 4 years. All new labour (new world order) policies. So was John Smith murdered? well does blair give a toss for all the lives lost because of his and his masters policies? No. So yes John Smith was I believe murdered to put puppet bliar into power.
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It seems that this question of wether John Smith was murdered is by it's nature without any facts. However if you look at the balance of probabilities and what was to be gained, and the massive change (revolution) in British politics, I would tend to agree that on balance he probably was murdered and that a inquest should be convened on the lines of the JFK inquest, the Princess Diane inquest (she was in the ambulance for over an hour because the doctor and driver were having their lunch break, perfectly reasonable, all the cctv was switched off or facing the wrong direction so as not to distract the cctv monitor from watching Benny Hill.), the Dr David Kelly inqest, the Robin Cook inquest the.....ad infinitum.

Then we gan really gat at the truth!!!!!?
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It was awfully convenient of him to 'die suddenly' so that bliar could be manipulated into 'power' wasn't it??
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Blimey, the penny droped when i read your post, of course he was topped it was a sure thing that labour was gonna win the election. We were all fed up with the tories making the country worse, labour was bound to improve things , . But what happens things are shit, so you vote for the opposing party they make things worse so you vote for the opposing party, they make things worse so you...... Uk is a police state where the general public get screwed and criminals get treated with kid gloves.
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Almost all as planned, with a few hiccups - IMHO what was once known as 'democracy' almost won out with the election of John Smith as leader of the last 'old' labour party - this was quite possibly the last time there was any inkling of democracy in this outpost of Brussels....


Scroll down to the second audio download to hear Dr Richard North talk about the Abolition of Britain.....
[link to www.freedomadvocates.org]

[link to eureferendum.blogspot.com]
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You are correct OP, Smith garnered the goodwill of the people and would have led the labour opposition back into power.

However, and sadly, Smith did not fit-in with the 'New World Order' agenda. The 'rulers' could not allow a handover from their Conservative pet, Thatcher, to someone they did not control, John Smith.

It all has to do with the Fabian Society, and for anyone interested I suggest they check the background, founding members, past members, current members and the ideology behind this 'society'.

John Smith was not a member of the Fabian Society.

Smith's 'successor', Tony Blair, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

Blair's 'successor', Gordon Brown, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

I would give more info but am just heading out.

This is the 'shield' of the Fabian's, which is incorporated into the larger stained glass 'Fabian Window'

Wolf in sheep's clothing
[link to bkmarcus.com]

This is the full window, which depicts, George Bernard Shaw and H. G. Wells, among others.., helping to forge "The New World"
[link to www.lse.ac.uk]

Tony Blair unveiling the window(after it had been stolen and subsequently recovered)
[link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk]

A few easy links to get anyone started;
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This rabbit hole goes down a long way.
Enufs Enuf
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You are correct OP, Smith garnered the goodwill of the people and would have led the labour opposition back into power.

However, and sadly, Smith did not fit-in with the 'New World Order' agenda. The 'rulers' could not allow a handover from their Conservative pet, Thatcher, to someone they did not control, John Smith.

It all has to do with the Fabian Society, and for anyone interested I suggest they check the background, founding members, past members, current members and the ideology behind this 'society'.

John Smith was not a member of the Fabian Society.

Smith's 'successor', Tony Blair, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

Blair's 'successor', Gordon Brown, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

I would give more info but am just heading out.

This is the 'shield' of the Fabian's, which is incorporated into the larger stained glass 'Fabian Window'

Wolf in sheep's clothing
[link to bkmarcus.com]

This is the full window, which depicts, George Bernard Shaw and H. G. Wells, among others.., helping to forge "The New World"
[link to www.lse.ac.uk]

Tony Blair unveiling the window(after it had been stolen and subsequently recovered)
[link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk]

A few easy links to get anyone started;
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This rabbit hole goes down a long way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 335304


Great info AC - one of 'their own', Thatcher, is already suffering and she hasn't yet left this life....the rest, traitors all, WILL burn in hell.

If 'they' think 'they' will be allowed to rule anything if the nwodour ever came to fruition, they're sadly mistaken. They've all been 'had' too and will be discarded when their usefulness has been exhausted - AND 'they' have hellfire and damnation to look forward to in the next life!!
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So, we live in a very different world than conventional wisdom defines. What to do? I feel that the bible can point us in the right direction.
Personally I'm a qualified Christian, I don't really believe Jesus existed, but that is not important for me, I believe in his father, and i really believe in the message of Jesus, essentially love and peace and brotherhood. Many of the greatest leaders were inspired by faith, King, Ghandi, x, Kennedy. The new testament can point us in the right direction:

1) beware of false prophets
2) many will come in my name but will but be deceivers.
3)JUDGE A TREE BY ITS FRUIT, this is the best way to understand the illuminati, they are full of doublespeak and spin, but the results are poison, also Jesus mentioned chopping down these trees.
4)Faith and love of good cannot be compromised by politics or economics.
5) The ten commandments, though shalt not kill, do not bear false witness, so that rules out bush, blair, british and us politics.
6)Go out and preach the truth.We need to spread the word of what is really going on, i'm seriously thinking about sticking small posters up around where I live......but, i never get around to it. Baaa Baaa
7) Be wary of true belivers and fundementalists. When one of the apostles said to Jesus "that man over there is doing good work but he is not one of us" Jesus replied 'leave the man alone for he is doing my fathers work".

AND YES I DO BELIEVE JOHN SMITH WAS MURDERED AND THAT BLAIR AND BUSH ARE GUILTY OF HIGH TREASON AS ARE UNFORTUNATLY MANY MANY OTHERS.
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In Greece we had a Junta from 67 to 74 placed by the CIA, who commited many crimes against the people. We greeks being a expressive people had artists that communicated the peoples suffering through their art. One leading artist was Cretan Nikos Xilouris (1936-1980).One of his greatest songs was "The enemies entered the city"
Lyrics below.
The enemies entered the city

The enemies entered the city
The enemies broke down the gates
And we were laughing in the neighbourhoods
On the very first day

The enemies entered the city
The enemies took our brothers away
And we were staring at the girls
On the next day

The enemies entered the city
The enemies hurled fire at us
And we were howling in the darkness
On the third day

The enemies entered the city
The enemies were holding swords
And we mistook them for mascots
On the next day

The enemies entered the city
The enemies gave away gifts
And we were laughing naively like kids
On the fifth day

The enemies entered the city
The enemies clutched the law
And we were shouting "long live" and "hail"
Like every day
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I don't know if he was murdered or not, but his death was very fortunate for certain people wasn't it? I remember clearly, hearing about his death on my kitchen radio, and I have to say I stood and wept. Because I knew that the Labour party that ordinary working people in the UK fought for and depended on, and that my family had voted for since it's very start, had had it.
A warning to out American friends, be careful if the Democrat hierarchy start calling themselves 'New' Democrats. Barack Obama reminds me so much of Tony Blair it's untrue.
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After the conclusion of the Diane inquest whitewash, I began thinking of all the other assassinations, cook, kelly, JFK jr, JFK, King, X, not to mention 911. Smith would have been an old time Labour PM. Something the NWO Illuminati establishment could not accept. Remember the talk of a coup when Wilson was in power. So Smith dies and Blair becomes PM. Blair who creates new labour, supports GM, university fees, the dismembering of british society, gambling, war in Iraq, Afghanistan. blair was placed by his NWO illuminati masters.
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After the conclusion of the Diane inquest whitewash, I began thinking of all the other assassinations, cook, kelly, JFK jr, JFK, King, X, not to mention 911. Smith would have been an old time Labour PM. Something the NWO Illuminati establishment could not accept. Remember the talk of a coup when Wilson was in power. So Smith dies and Blair becomes PM. Blair who creates new labour, supports GM, university fees, the dismembering of british society, gambling, war in Iraq, Afghanistan. blair was placed by his NWO illuminati masters.
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Yes. I was sure of that the day he died.

A real honest socialist. Succeeded by the fabian freemason Blair.
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When blair said education, education, education, what he meant was brainwashing, indoctrination, censorship. I think these power people often tell the truth but with their slant. I heard a guy on thge radio mock bush when he quoted him saying "the future is not yet here" implying what he said meant nothing. But what satanist bush meant was their (policestate) future was not yet here. How to defeat these people spread the fucking word is a start!!!
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I've never been that impressed with David Icke,for various reasoms, but I saw david icke sheeple on you tube worth a watch. Count me in too,yes I believe John Smith was assassinated. But why won't any of the conspiracy disclosure people discuss it?
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You are correct OP, Smith garnered the goodwill of the people and would have led the labour opposition back into power.

However, and sadly, Smith did not fit-in with the 'New World Order' agenda. The 'rulers' could not allow a handover from their Conservative pet, Thatcher, to someone they did not control, John Smith.

It all has to do with the Fabian Society, and for anyone interested I suggest they check the background, founding members, past members, current members and the ideology behind this 'society'.

John Smith was not a member of the Fabian Society.

Smith's 'successor', Tony Blair, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

Blair's 'successor', Gordon Brown, was and remains a member of the Fabian Society.

I would give more info but am just heading out.

This is the 'shield' of the Fabian's, which is incorporated into the larger stained glass 'Fabian Window'

Wolf in sheep's clothing
[link to bkmarcus.com]

This is the full window, which depicts, George Bernard Shaw and H. G. Wells, among others.., helping to forge "The New World"
[link to www.lse.ac.uk]

Tony Blair unveiling the window(after it had been stolen and subsequently recovered)
[link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk]

A few easy links to get anyone started;
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This rabbit hole goes down a long way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 335304


BINGO!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!


Absolutely correct, poster. Good work.
The thing is
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The thing is, thousands marched against the Iraq war yet it still happened, diane and all the assassinations have caused little if any response from the public, 7/7 was definetly an inside job, but it's not an issue. like the daleks say "resistance is useless". I suppose a big problem is that detractors of the establishment have an image of being dirty hippies and not respectable. there is a strong dynamic of "I'm all right Jack", and humanism is viewed with contempt. The media has played a major role in creating this dynamic, particularly the newspapers. any one who could seriouslyu shape public opinion has been exed. Hey, why not start a chain letter, that could be a good idea, look up 10 anonymous people and send them a photocopied letter and ask them to do the same, I'm starting tomorrow.
P.S.
I believe John Smith was murdered.
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In Britain we had a Junta for 100's of years placed by the power brokers, who commited many crimes against the people. We brits being a expressive people had artists that communicated the peoples suffering through their art. One leading artist was John Lydon of the Sex Pistols.One of his greatest songs was "god save the queen"

god save the queen
the facist regime
they made you a moron
potential h-bomb
god save the queen
she aint no human being
there is no future
in englands dreaming
don't be told what you want
don't be told what you need
there's no future no future
no future for you
god save the queen
we mean it man
we love our queen
god saves
god save the queen
'cos tourists are money
our figure head
is not what she seems
oh god save history
god save your mad parade
oh lord god have mercy
all crimes are paid
when there's no future
how can there be sin
we're the flowers in the dustbin
we're the poison in your human machine
we're the future you're future
god save the queen
we mean it man
we love our queen
god saves
god save the queen
we mean it man
and there is no future
in englands dreaming
no future no future
no future for you
no future no future
no future no future for me
no future no future
no future for you

Punk was prophetic and the music much more serious and advanced in its thinking than conventionally understood. Check out on youtube "power in the darkness" by tom robinson band.

Count me in, John Smith was executed.
Enufs Enuf
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Hey A-Brit - I have to admit I've never really read those lyrics.....gulp!! How true!

How long will we tolerte the incompetence criminality of broon and the pathetic fabian chums - tories just as bad - libdems Europhiles all.

It's nota again for me in the next and every election (none of the above).

People ask why I've never tried to do anything about the current political state of the UK - I was a ppc for ukip in 2004 but realised someone higher up at ukip didn't want the party to succeed - presumably and very sadly I can only deduce ukip are rothschild/illum funded too.....

I'll never give up and one of our best bets is to keep on awakening others. We also need to get the police and military onside.....
A Brit
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Thanks enufs enuf for appreciating the lyrics 'god save the queen'. it's ggod to hear that you tried to help the situation, ukip is pretty cool, but i understand what you are saying reference not allowed to succeed.
I think what we need is a gorrilla press, and like somebody mentioned earlier chain letters. It would be a great start if perhaps we (on this forum) could draft such a letter. such as:

Dear Friend,
this letter is sent to you to express our concerns and fears for the current state of world affairs and the direction the political leaders are taking us.

Cause for such concerns are numerous and listed below are some of them.
1. 9/11 was an inside job, commited by the establishment to consolidate power.
2. The constitution and habius corpus has been suspended in the USA.
3.In the UK the establishment is strongly suspected of commiting major crimes against the people such as assassinations of diane, kelly, cook, John Smith and that 7/7 was also an inside job.
4.That political leaders are pawns and puppets of the banking elite, who as a group are known as the illuminati and who control the media, politics and the economy, and wish to bring a fascistic one world government new world order.
4. evidence of this is indicated by the illegal war in iraq, poisonous food products allowed in general circulation such as aspartame and the very dangerous GM crops.

We do not ask you to believe us, we only ask you do your own research, and if you empathise with us copy and post this letter to as many people as you can.

Please don't be afraid don't be a sheeple, open your eyes because we are living in revolutionary times. we may not be able to do much, but at least we can see the truth for what it is, and not be caught with our trousers down!

Yours Sincerely
A Friend

Comments kindly appreciated
A Brit
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Oh I would also add somewhere in there:
7.We strongly believe that in many countries in the west icluding the USA and UK that democracy is a shame and that the people have no/very limited political expression.
A Brit
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Point 4 is very weak.....lets get a killer letter together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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we may or may not win-but we can make thier lives hell
A Brit
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Exactly, otherwise we are just like jews in Nazi germany being herded on to trains to our extinction.
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The day John Smith was killed, I said to my wife "this is the begining of the end for freedom". I was right on the money. I hate to say this because all the years since his death I have not been able to do anything about it.
I had to repeat the same exact words one more time to my wife. She looked at me and said "did you not say this when Smith was killed?". I said the same words when Sarkozy was elected in France.
Now watch France to go through exact same path as UK.
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Exactly, otherwise we are just like jews in Nazi germany being herded on to trains to our extinction.
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Oh, please wake up. That history was written by USA/UK and the Zionists.

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