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Was John Smith Murdered

 
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thank you to all who have posted on this site, reading the entries was very illuminating? Yes I believe John Smith was assassinated.
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Blair did a lot of damage
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smith was murdered
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smith was murdered
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I just posted this comment to the Channel Tunnel article at:
www.order-order.com

This blog is very well respected and often makes 'them' cringe....:


Given that the broon one only has one functioning eye.....could it really be that he is the antiChrist/dajjal????

His job is obviously to oversee the 'closing down sale' of UK plc and he's in line for a decent bonus considering the great job he's doing. It's my bet that bliar 'left' because he wouldn't be the one to be seen committing another kind of treason......

Now I've worked out what 'acadamies' are - ie money making scams - it's now more obvious than ever that the 'chunnel' was a similar kind of scam....

I demand that broon is immediately arrested for treason (eu/Lisbon). Broon is at best, incompetent and at worst - a traitor.

I also declare that there is no confidence in the 'used and abused' labour government/party - nor in the bilderberg tories either.

It's all well and good talking, moaning and often laughing out loud - we're fucked, by design, unless we DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!

end


Here's a treat unless you've seen/heard it already - you can also download the mp3 from:
www.projectcamelot.com

It's fascinating and encompasses much of my own research - enjoy!!
[link to divinecosmos.com]
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I was talking to some family recently about The Labour Party in general and John Smith came up. we all agreed his death was the tipping point for the Party, when it stopped being what it was started for.
It makes you wonder how many good men are 'lost' and how things would have been different.
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I was talking to some family recently about The Labour Party in general and John Smith came up. we all agreed his death was the tipping point for the Party, when it stopped being what it was started for.
It makes you wonder how many good men are 'lost' and how things would have been different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501790


John Smith's daughter is the current US 'correspondent'/reporter for Channel 4 News - Sarah Smith.
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Dear AC thx 4 yr contribution, to be honest it seems assassination is not an uncommon tool for people who stick their neck out, the list of government sponsored assassinations, likely assassinations, and very suspicious deaths is long and distinguished, it includes:
JFk
JFK JR + wife + sister in law + flight instructor
Robert kennedy
King
X
Rabin
cook
kelly
lenon
smith
diane
driver of the white van
writer of fortunate son
600,000 Iraqi's
us military personnel
uk military personnel
911 victims

A long list of good guys and gals
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I was talking to some family recently about The Labour Party in general and John Smith came up. we all agreed his death was the tipping point for the Party, when it stopped being what it was started for.
It makes you wonder how many good men are 'lost' and how things would have been different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501790


I'll say this again - it is my belief that the labour party has been 'used' by the rothschild/illuminazionists to destroy the UK, leaving it bare for eu takeover and remoulding it in the 'multicultural'/liberal nwodourous fashion to make of us a chavlike/moronic/fully compliant zombie nation of taxpayers who don't want - nay, can't - think for themselves.

The tories and libdems are similarly being used and the demise of our once 'only hope' of ukip, is currently being destroyed -again- from within and without.....

Green party?? forget it.

The BNP seems to be the only choice but the 'leader' Nick ? is also rumoured to be a puppet of the 'security services' on behalf of the above illuminazionazis.....

However - having said all that - there is something that prevents 'them' from simply rounding us truthseekers up......I believe I know what it is - do you??? They might get me in the end but I have something on my side that 'they' will never, ever have, behaving as they do....I hope and pray that they too will 'get it' and change their ways.
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Dear AC thx 4 yr contribution, to be honest it seems assassination is not an uncommon tool for people who stick their neck out, the list of government sponsored assassinations, likely assassinations, and very suspicious deaths is long and distinguished, it includes:
JFk
JFK JR + wife + sister in law + flight instructor
Robert kennedy
King
X
Rabin
cook
kelly
lenon
smith
diane
driver of the white van
writer of fortunate son
600,000 Iraqi's
us military personnel
uk military personnel
911 victims

A long list of good guys and gals
 Quoting: A Brit 490696


...and the message is "keep your mouth shut or this could happen to you".

"Death is only an illusion" is what I like to believe and if you listen to that David Wilcock mp3 I posted at about 0955 above, David talks about that kind of thing which I've very interested in.

I believe we all have to do what we believe is 'right'. We should not hurt others or take advantage of anyone else.
We shouldn't kill.....
We shouldn't do anything to the environment that will upset the 'balance' of everything - but most people never consider what 'balance' might actually mean!!

Charlotte Iserbyt: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of the World:

[link to uk.youtube.com]

I've been dumbed down for far too long and it's up to ME to speak out and DO something!!

After all - I just want to live a good/nice life IN PEACE!!!
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09/12/2008 05:49 AM
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Dear enuf enuf , thank you for your couragous stance. Your support for the BNP is certainly controversial, and is (I would argue) a symptom of the lack of benvolent representation for the people of this country. I cannot say I support your political choice (though I understand where your coming from), i'm a great believer in moderation in all things, but these are extreme times. Personally resorting to violence and aggression, and targeting of social/ethnic groups is what the nwo want. My mantra is that of the previous entry concerning "judging a tree by its fruit" These times are a test of the goodness of mankind, and it is only by uniting in a spirit of shared humanity and love that we will defeat these people. But we have to be organised. Certainly a lot of what is going on is only being discussed by the likes of the BNP, but evil can not be fought with(in my view) evil. Support of the likes of the BNP is what the NWO want, because people will be repulsed by what they represent, and through fear turn to the government. If it is fear the nwo wants, we need to be cuddly bunnies, spreading the message of extreme times with moderation and patients. If you like think of ww2 where enemies united to defeat a common enemy. Then when we have victory, maybe instead of going back to hating each other we can learn to respect each other. some of the bravest 9/11 truthers are black. I hated rap music, but after hearing "bush knocked down the towers" I'm starting to like it. By immortal technique.
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Dear enuf enuf , thank you for your couragous stance. Your support for the BNP is certainly controversial, and is (I would argue) a symptom of the lack of benvolent representation for the people of this country. I cannot say I support your political choice (though I understand where your coming from), i'm a great believer in moderation in all things, but these are extreme times. Personally resorting to violence and aggression, and targeting of social/ethnic groups is what the nwo want. My mantra is that of the previous entry concerning "judging a tree by its fruit" These times are a test of the goodness of mankind, and it is only by uniting in a spirit of shared humanity and love that we will defeat these people. But we have to be organised. Certainly a lot of what is going on is only being discussed by the likes of the BNP, but evil can not be fought with(in my view) evil. Support of the likes of the BNP is what the NWO want, because people will be repulsed by what they represent, and through fear turn to the government. If it is fear the nwo wants, we need to be cuddly bunnies, spreading the message of extreme times with moderation and patients. If you like think of ww2 where enemies united to defeat a common enemy. Then when we have victory, maybe instead of going back to hating each other we can learn to respect each other. some of the bravest 9/11 truthers are black. I hated rap music, but after hearing "bush knocked down the towers" I'm starting to like it. By immortal technique.
 Quoting: A Brit 490696


Very well said A Brit - I'm with you 100%.

I hope and pray that the police and military will come to their senses and start to work with, as opposed to against, we the people.

It's my opinion that one of the many reasons our troops are out of the UK is so that they CANNOT act FOR us.

The simplest solution I can offer is - and this will immediately turn some people off - is to 'live like Jesus would' with: compassion; hope; joy; LOVE; in Truth; in abundance; with wisdom; etc etc I KNOW you'll get the picture...

I only want to live in peace and I do not want to control anyone else.
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Dear Enufs Enuf, with the BNP thing I understand where your coming from because there are an increasing number of foreigners who talk about supporting them. But I'm glad you are a supporter of peace and love. Non violent movments in history have been very powerful, where as violent movements are so useful for a criminal government they make bogus ones up themselves.
Personally Dr Martin Luther King is my hero, somehow, i can't relate to Ghandi. Other heroes Dickens, Orwell and Jule Christie!!
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if there is no labour party, only new labour & conservatives we live essentially in a one party state qed a police state.
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if there is no labour party, only new labour & conservatives we live essentially in a one party state qed a police state.
 Quoting: dear ac 490696


We do, imho, live in a one-party country which is virtually a police-state country too.

This is way off topic but I think it's valid and I might actually post a new thread later...

I have long suspected, especially since the lamestream media explotion of 'dog attack' stories, that the war against certain breeds of dogs was to get rid of these dogs which, in the event of martial law, could be used as a defence mechanism for 'we the people':

Thread title: UK begin to ban guard dogs:
[link to projectavalon.net]

This, to me, is just more proof of the onward march of fascism.....
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certainly the powers that be are doing what ever they can to make the people spiritually, psychologically, economically impotent. everything is being done to take away peoples confidence and sense of right and wrong. Murdering smith was part of the process, i think u r still very much on message with this thread. Thats why I chose this question because it opens up a whole can of worms.
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certainly the powers that be are doing what ever they can to make the people spiritually, psychologically, economically impotent. everything is being done to take away peoples confidence and sense of right and wrong. Murdering smith was part of the process, i think u r still very much on message with this thread. Thats why I chose this question because it opens up a whole can of worms.
 Quoting: Dear enufs enuf 490696


Ah yes - I'm rather partialled to 'canned worms' lol!!!

If you manage to listen to David Wilcock's new audio (see my 0955ish post today) - at around 01:08:00 he lists all the failures happening in this 'matrix' controlled (temporarily!) by the rothschild/witchcraft/satanic/luciferians ie media; wars; music industry; finance etc It's nice to hear someone else commenting on what i'm observing from my own pov..

The irony of CERN possibly being a destructive device and it's where the Internet came from which has been responsible for waking millions - true to form - everything has +ve and -ve potential.....
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this is a very complicated thread?
most certainly
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indeedydodee he was sacrificed for the greater good.
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indeedydodee he was sacrificed for the greater good.
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That sounds like 'masonspeak'.....

I'd just like to make it clear that I do NOT support the BNP - I support NO 'political party' and probably never will again.

Having been involved on the edge of politics as a ppc (prospective parliamentary candidate), I don't have the hunger to 'don' the steely ego which is necessary to survive in the 'dog eat dog' circus that is UK politics. It's awful and dare I say - some 'people' gave me the impression that they were not quite 'human'.....

Politics in the US and UK are dead......long live the political system.

Remove them ALL and replace with those we 'believe' we can trust...

'The system' is perfectly sound - it's just been hijacked by those who would 'serve themselves' rather than serve others. In fact, they serve - knowingly or not - satan/lucifer and are behaving in a 'satanic'/luciferian manner which is based upon materialism/corporatism....

'The system' need only be 'maintained' by people who only have the best interests of EVERYONE at heart.

I offer myself in service to the running of 'the system' in the UK for the wellbeing of ALL the residents of this country.

What more can I do??
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the state is all. the individual is nothing, for the good of the state the individual must merge with the state, for the good of the state.
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the state is all. the individual is nothing, for the good of the state the individual must merge with the state, for the good of the state.
 Quoting: the state 491857


...even if that 'state' is made up of lying; murdering; thieving; treasonous; luciferian satanists?????
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there is no people only the mob and the mob must be controlled.
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there is no people only the mob and the mob must be controlled.
 Quoting: the mob 491857


So, 491857 ....Starter for 10, Most Certainly, The State and The Mob....you understand how 'they' have duped humanity for so long.....changing identity and rising like their symbol the phoenix aka satan in a new guise as and when it suits.

'They' are hoping that their next and probably most important incarnation will begin around 2012 when the whole 25,000+ year cycle begins again and they can dupe all future generations....

The 'gig' is up though.....critical mass is being reached.....

For 'mob' - don't you mean 'goyim'???
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From: www.order-order.com
comments.....

"Apparently a lady has just rung the BBC to say she's heard there's an election on the way. Well, no need to worry, there isn't, because Westminster elections were abolished by the Lisbon Treaty..."

September 12, 2008 11:02 PM

Strange is it not, that we keep forgetting that there is not going to be any more British elections past May 2010?

Could this be because the BBC just happened to forget to tell us?

Which may or may not explain why Gordon is hanging on until the bitter end. However it explains nothing as far as Cameron is concerned.


Surly someone must have told him that even if he gets elected his job is soon to be abolished.

However DONT PANIC

Whether we vote for the blue team or the red team, it will make no difference to anything whatsoever important anymore. If indeed it ever really did.

Very much because our future was planned for us many years ago by people that have never allowed their names anywhere near a ballot paper.

However it would be silly not to expect a few different policies from a Cameron administration. He is leader of a so called conservative party after all.

There are two very big reasons why Cameron still has not one firm announced policy to his name.

1. He has not been told by the Bildergerg group exactly what they are going to be quite yet.

2. He knows that if he actually told anyone but his pet dog, about Bildergerg group policies he does know about and will be forced to enact when in power. Not even his pet dog would vote for any of it, and he might end up going the same way as John Smith.

I think we can trust Cameron and the rest of his front bench, to resist the temptation to pick their noses in public. If not, surly we can trust them not to eat the proceeds as well?

OK, we cant even trust them to do that.

Sorry, I think I let my propensity for wishful thinking, get the better of me there.

Atlas Shrugged
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2. He knows that if he actually told anyone but his pet dog, about Bildergerg group policies he does know about and will be forced to enact when in power. Not even his pet dog would vote for any of it, and he might end up going the same way as John Smith.
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W A K E T H E F U C K U P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Are the goverment elections really to be abolished under the lisbon treaty? That is heavy if its true, surly (sorry to call you surly) they would keep the government elections as a facad?
John Smith was murdered to put in puppet (possibly mind controlled) blair.

Dear enufs enuf keep up the good work, By the way the is a comp cafe, so if anyone has my number its not me.
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After the conclusion of the Diane inquest whitewash, I began thinking of all the other assassinations, cook, kelly, JFK jr, JFK, King, X, not to mention 911. Smith would have been an old time Labour PM. Something the NWO Illuminati establishment could not accept. Remember the talk of a coup when Wilson was in power. So Smith dies and Blair becomes PM. Blair who creates new labour, supports GM, university fees, the dismembering of british society, gambling, war in Iraq, Afghanistan. blair was placed by his NWO illuminati masters.
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Don't trust the government, don't trust the media.
A prophecy from the 70's, by the sex pistols.

Too many problems oh why am I here
I don't need to be me
'cos you're all too clear
well and I can see
there's something wrong with you
but what do you expect me to do?.

At least I gotta know what I wanna be
don't come to me if you need pity

Are you lonely you got no-one
you get your body in suspension

That's no problem
problems, problems
the problem is you
what you gonna do with your problem
(what you gonna do problem)

Eat your heart out on plastic tray
you don't do what you want
then you'll fade away
You won't find me working nine to five
it's too much fun a-being alive

I'm using my feet for my human machine
you won't find me living for the screen

Are you lonely all needs catered
you got your brains dehydrated

In a death trip I ain't automatic
You won't find me just staying static
Don't you give me any orders
for people like me there is no order.

Bet you thought you had it all worked out
Bet you thought you knew what I was about
Bet you thought
you'd solved all your problems
but you are the problem

Oh what you gonna do with your problem I'll
leave it to you problem the problem is you.
You got a problem Oh what you gonna do
they know a doctor gonna fake you away
they take you away and throw away the key
they don't want you and they don't want me
you got a problem the problem is you
problems what you gonna do... (etc.)
problem... (etc.)

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