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Was John Smith Murdered

 
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In despair at the state of the world, deppressed? feel impotent? Go and buy the sexpistols "never mind the bollocks'. it will energise you, and give pick you up. Don't accept the status quo, see the truth, don't be sheeple.
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Excellent thread, guys n gals! 5*
Everything is permitted..
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From the comfort of my tv dinner I am numbed to the pain in this world, the collapse of the twin towers, building 7, the pristine lawn infront of the pentagon missile strike, the barren hole where flight 93 folded up perfectly leaving no wreckage. Suspicios deaths raise no suspicions within me, smiths and cooks heart attacks were just that, kelly so misguided, and diane such a shame, the media is not worried, so why should I?. The deaths of innocent palstinians the father and son taking cover behined an oil barrel, the homes destroyed by israeli bulldozers, are all for my entertainment. The vulgar people that get angry about these things are so.....dirty, so...uncooth, uncivilzed, naive, what do they know of realpolitic. leave me in my coccooned, warm living room. These things only happen to others they have nothing to do with me......er ...whats that knock on the door, no, no don't take me away, i haven't done anything, i'm innocent, i'm one of you...........pleeeeease
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he was topped
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How come only 'good' people get topped??? I'm just thinking about the current state of 'government' in the UK - just thinking out loud, that's all....

Instead, those who have set us all up to knock us all down as planned will walk away with nice fat eu gravy jobs and fat pensions.....

"...after what will be seen as the greatest ever restructuring of the global economy....."
Gordon Brown
Mansion House
May 2007
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As the 'closing down sale' of Britain is almost complete - I guess there might not be another 'government' after this one goes belly up....perhaps that's what the broon one wants - to hang on to be the last ever British PM.....

Sack all the MP's - ensure they don't get made redundant which is what they will probably manipulate for themselves.

All the 'money', electronic that is, will shortly be completely controlled by the rothschilds having bought everything up on the cheap that they've engineered the 'crash' of....

I'm not worried per se - I just think that the ongoing financial coup is far worse than criminal as many people are going to lose everything and not only did they not save any money - they didn't bother saving their souls either.....or rather, 'the system' didn't want them to save their souls - they wanted us all on the road to hell to create their fascist/satanic new world odour.

One silver lining to all this - if we need defending in our own homes, most of our children between say 6 and 30 have such good marxman skills from killing so many 'virtual' people that they'll be crack shots when the shtf lol!!
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Was John Smith really murdered? I understand the line of thinking, and the logic behined it. But if it's true that is truly a nightmare. Was Blair complicit, how many in government know or suspect the truth? How can they live with the knowledge of so many assassinations in recent times? Why is the media silent? This is all crazy. It is a very disturbing theory!!!!
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Was John Smith really murdered? I understand the line of thinking, and the logic behined it. But if it's true that is truly a nightmare. Was Blair complicit, how many in government know or suspect the truth? How can they live with the knowledge of so many assassinations in recent times? Why is the media silent? This is all crazy. It is a very disturbing theory!!!!
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They're called 'secrets' as in secret societies and it's called an oath which can result in death if broken....

That's the sad reality of this 'matrix' and if anyone sees through it to see as much of 'The Truth' as it's possible to see - then we are a problem.....

As far as I'm concerned, for the moment, this is all the proof I need of the complicity of at least one 'man'....

"...after what will be seen as the greatest restructuring of the global economy, perhaps one even greater than at the time of the industrial revolution, a new world order was created..."

Gordon Brown
Mansion House
May 2007

[link to uk.youtube.com]

If this was 1939 I would be trying to warn you about Hitler.....another puppet, like broon.....
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I just came into this cafe for some fun, andlooked at previous requests and found this site. I can't believe I walked in here to have some fun, and now i'm going to walk out somewhat shocked. The internet is very powerful!!!!
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I just came into this cafe for some fun, andlooked at previous requests and found this site. I can't believe I walked in here to have some fun, and now i'm going to walk out somewhat shocked. The internet is very powerful!!!!
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Fun?? What's that?? It's not allowed anymore on fascist Earth.....bastards.

However, if you carry peace in your heart - the outside world can go £*"k itself lol!! Fortunately for me, I do. I've tried to tell others but they'll only 'get it' if/when they want to....

Love and peace to everyone - which we need more than anything.

hf
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I've read all the entries, Ms Enufs Enuf you seem determined to do somthing positive and shocked that others are so aquiescent.
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I've read all the entries, Ms Enufs Enuf you seem determined to do somthing positive and shocked that others are so aquiescent.
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Indeed I am determined to do something positive and I am still surprised at the response of 'others'...however, I now know that other than try several times to alert people, beyond that, there's nothing I or anyone can do. Move on, even though I'm very sad to have to do that.

You see, I believe in plain, honest, GOODNESS....

I've seen more than enough evil to prove for myself the existence of absolute goodness but most laugh at the very word....which is why the world is as it is.
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That leaflet thing sounds like a good idea, but i would be too scared to do it.
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That leaflet thing sounds like a good idea, but i would be too scared to do it.
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Scared.....of what?? or rather....of whom???

The trick is to lose your fear....I'm not saying that if I'm being frogmarched out of my house at gunpoint, or I'm against a wall waiting to be shot I won't be scared....but I know as much Truth as I need to know that absolute evil rules this world and if we can't stand up for honest Truth - then we're part of the evil......
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I've got a lot of research to do. But I get your point. Oh and I'll look into the sexpistols too!
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Any suggestion for where to look on the net. But simple easy to understand sites.
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Any suggestion for where to look on the net. But simple easy to understand sites.
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Can you really handle 'The Truth'??

It's difficult to guage just how awake people are - from my own pov, this is absolutely definately a spiritual battle as well as playing out in 'the material matrix'.

Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


You could do worse than watch the following series - but be warned, if you haven't ever suspected that 'they' control virtually everything.....well, they're just removing the 'mom and pop' type of local business with their 'credit crunch' (33 = cc), then you may be in for a few shocks.

The one thing from the entire 33 + intro parts is a 'born again' satanist who says that one of the biggest deceptions is that human spirits are NOT immortal.....I'm finding this one hard to accept and wonder if this too may be a deception. I shall ask for divine help with this one!

[link to uk.youtube.com]

Muslims are one of the 'villains du jour'. The vast majority of Muslims are like us - they want to live in peace and In Truth. However, then there's the 'muslim bro'.....who shake hands over checkered floors apparently - "all the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players".

Most Torah Jews also want peace and Truth - they too, like true Muslims and Christians have been 'used' and only by each one of them/us coming to understand this deception will they/we change the 'status quo'. zionist jews are 'talmud' jews aka the 'synagogue of satan'

1. Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:8-10 (in Context) Revelation 2 (Whole Chapter)
2. Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


[link to www.biblegateway.com]


Have you see Michael Tsarion's "2012, the Future of Mankind" on google?? That's a good place to start too:

[link to video.google.com]

Then there's the Occult World of Commerce:

[link to video.google.com]

WARNING: It's not the messenger - it's the message and what it says to your heart.....not just your head.

These people are NOT my 'gods' - they are passing on their research and it's up to US to make of it what we can.

From these you will get some pointers of what you need to confirm for yourself through your own research.

I don't know everything - but I have made it my life's work to know as much as I can about everything....too many lives/generations have been used/abused/tortured/starved/destroyed and discarded by an evil satanic cabal and ultimately - satan - yes, satan - and I want it to stop for everyone's sake.

One heart at a time.....

Hope the above might help - if I can give you any more pointers - I'd be delighted. Just listening to the 'Occult World of Commerce' as I type - it's a good place to go after you've watched 'The Arrivals'.

"and ye shall know The Truth and the Truth shall make you free"
John 8:32
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This is real conspiracy stuff, very explosive, dynamite. If this suspiscion that John Smith got out into the public arena it would be explosive. Mind you Diane's assassination did very little. But John Smith was a political assassination, a coup d'etat! The people behined his assassination must be recognized for who they are, but very difficult. Still I'm going to start discussing it with close friends. It's a really logical theory, so much so it should be criminally investigated. Thanks to all entrants thrilling reading.....though at times a bit difficult to follow, 11/10!
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I just called a friend, he believes there might be somthing in this. Blair deteriorated so much before he left power, he began looking quite frightening.
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The list is long and distinguished, with many really nice people. It makes me very very sad to think of these Giants killed by these vermin. vermin = bush senior, he was apparently key instigator in most of the us assassinations. i can't believe how quickly the British public started ass licking the royal family after diane died. Amazing, pathetic.Was i the only person to hear it, but in the last election didn't blair promise to step down after a year, and like the vermin he is he changed his mind and wasn't confronted about this by the media. Double speak in the uk is a long time resident.Did the rot start with thatcher? or did it become evident then?
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I guess one way we can honour the people that were murdered is to remember them, and also try and find those who are guilty, who are so high up the feeding chain we can't really touch them, but at least we can recognise them for what they are. I wonder who took the desition to assassinate Kennedy? Was it just Bush senior or was it a coven of top names? Probably the latter, as I guess was the desicion to murder John Smith.
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Revealed: Bush and Blair's best friend


TODAY we reveal the extraordinary role played by a Scottish financial dynasty in making the Texan Bush family seriously rich, a fortune which helped buy one presidency and maybe a second.

If it had not been for the Gammells of Perthshire and their close family friends, the Ivorys of Edinburgh's leading investment brokers Ivory and Sime, George "Dubya" would not now be suffering this interminable wretched weekend wondering whether he will ever make it into the White House and his dad's old job.

The close friendship between the Bush and Gammell families lasts to this day.

When George Bush sent his 13-year-old son (Dubya) to holiday in 1959 with Jimmy Gammell's son Bill at the family's Perthshire farm, he formed a close friendship. All through the summer they larked and wrestled and helped out on the farm.

And when Georgie, as he was then known, went back to the US, Bill went back to Fettes, and to his best school chum, Tony Blair.

So what happened to the three boys? George went on to establish his own oil business which failed and then joined his father's oil business before entering politics; Tony went into law where he met Cherie and then into politics; while Bill played rugby for Scotland and then went into his father's oil business Cairns Petroleum.

"It is a bit strange to have as two of your best friends the Prime Minister and maybe the President," Gammell said yesterday. "It's one of those things that just happened, I don't quite know why. It's a curious and extraordinary accident of fate."

In fact there is nobody in Scotland more on tenterhooks than Bill Gammell this weekend about the Florida recount. "I just wish him all the best. He's a great guy, a born leader who is very charismatic." Asked about his specific leadership qualities, Gammell added: "He has excellent judgement, picks good people, is good at delegating, and has a real sense of humour."

His most cherished wish is to be the man who is first to introduce his two best pals: President Dubya Bush to Prime Minister Tony Blair. Although he does not keep quite as much in touch with Tony as George, whenever Blair is in Scotland he tries to make sure that they meet up. Privately, Gammell remains in closest contact with George and talks or communicates with him most weeks. He last saw him a year ago in the States, when Bush invited him to be with him when he declared his run for presidency. Although unable to attend on the day, he did go and stay with the Bush family.

If Bush does eventually go on to win, Gammell will no doubt be at his side at the inauguration ceremony in Washington in January. It will be the most fitting tribute to the friendship and achievements of the two families.

So how did the Gammells do it for the Bushes? Read our extraordinary story on Page 14. Note to Jeffrey Archer: our lawyers are watching you. This story is too good to be true and will not be lifted by you.
[link to findarticles.com]
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Dear AC thank you for this interseting and relevant info, lets keep this thread going for as long as possible!
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Was the fix already in and john Smith may not have been in on it, maybe it is a case of follow the money

"Bill Gammell,(Bush and Blairs friend) whom Dubya calls "Billy," is a bona fide "FOW"--friend of 'W'--and their relationship dates back to 1959, when a teen-age Bush spent the summer at the Gammell family's Scottish estate. That was Dubya's first trip to Europe. Bush again traveled to Scotland in 1982 when he needed Billy to ante up some cash for his fledgling Arbusto Energy Company in Midland, Texas. Billy was one of 50 original investors who sank some $3 million into the enterprise. Arbusto soon fell on hard times (though Bush made millions through a series of bailouts and sweetheart deals). Billy and the other investors got back just 20 cents on every dollar of their investment. Yet Bush returned to Scotland in 1983 for Billy's wedding. These visits were to leave an indelible mark on his worldview.

Unlike Dubya, who seemed to have the reverse-Midas touch when it came to the oil business, Billy Gammell struck pay dirt. In 1999, his Cairn Energy found oil off the west coast of India in the Gulf of Cambay--a lucrative addition to the company's already sizable natural gas interests in Bangladesh and oil wells on the Indian mainland. So when Dubya called the Indian foreign minister into the Oval Office, chances are good they were not discussing the humidity in New Delhi. One of Bush's main political backers, Enron, is expanding its operations to India and is already running a privatized electrical distribution system in Bombay.

And the shadow of Dick Cheney could not have been very far from that meeting. Cairn Energy and Halliburton, Cheney's old firm, are partners in developing Bangladesh's natural gas fields in the Bay of Bengal. Moreover, Cheney has particularly close ties to current Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheik Hasina Wazed and former Prime Minister and principal opposition leader Begum Khaleda Zia. In 1998, Cheney went to Bangladesh and met the two women politicians. However, his real interest was in visiting the Sangu offshore natural gas fields, a joining venture between Halliburton (a 25 percent stakeholder), Cairn, Shell Oil and Bangladesh's state-owned Petrobangla energy company."
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John Smith was an old style labour politician, he could not be allowed to reverse the policies and agenda of the thatcher government. That's why he was assassinated. Just think what has Blair done for the good of the people, the sharing of wealth, etc.. He is anti democracy, anti labour, anti freedom. He is a nasty and evil stooge. More right wing than thatcher, in short he is a Nazi. Seriuosly, civil liberties have gone down the pan, as has the quality of life under his "stewardship". His agenda has been that of his masters.
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All these theories are well and good, about muuuurder, but it is highly likely that prince harry and william believe their mothers death was an accident, so how can the publib be convinced? And getting the theory out that J.Smithwas murdered very difficult, although very likely true, saying this in a way that would gain popular acceptance would very likely get the messenger muuurdered. Unlikely that the public would believe such a logical theory.
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BUsh Knocked Down The Towers (Immortal Technique)

Man, you hear this bullshit they be talkin'
Every day, man
It's like these motherfuckers is just like professional liars
YouknowwhatI'msayin? It's wild
Listen

[Hook - Mos Def]
Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)--[Jadakiss]
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)--[Jadakiss]
Tell the truth, nigga

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects
It was you, nigga
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)--[Jadakiss]
Tell the truth, nigga
(Bush knocked down the towers)--[Jadakiss]

[Verse 1 - Immortal Technique]
I pledge no allegiance, nigga fuck the president's speeches
I'm baptized by America and covered in leeches
The dirty water that bleaches your soul and your facial features
Drownin' you in propaganda that they spit through the speakers
And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act'll track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs
And throw a federal indictment on niggaz to show you love
This shit is run by fake Christians, fake politicians
Look at they mansions, then look at the conditions you live in
All they talk about is terrorism on television
They tell you to listen, but they don't really tell you they mission
They funded Al-Qaeda, and now they blame the Muslim religion
Even though Bin Laden, was a CIA tactician
They gave him billions of dollars, and they funded his purpose
Fahrenheit 9/11, that's just scratchin' the surface

[Hook]

[Verse 2 - Immortal Technique]
They say the rebels in Iraq still fight for Saddam
But that's bullshit, I'll show you why it's totally wrong
Cuz if another country invaded the hood tonight
It'd be warfare through Harlem, and Washington Heights
I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my nigga
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my nigga
You ever clock someone who talk shit, or look at you wrong?
Imagine if they shot at you, and was rapin' your moms
And of course Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons
We sold him that shit, after Ronald Reagan's election
Mercenary contractors fightin' a new era
Corporate military bankin' off the war on terror
They controllin' the ghetto, with the failed attack
Tryna distract the fact that they engineerin' the crack
So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael
Your body be sent to the morgue, stripped down and recycled
I fire on house niggaz that support you and like you
Cuz innocent people get murdered in the struggle daily
And poor people never get shit and struggle daily
This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal

(I don't rap for dead presidents
I'd rather see the president dead
It's never been said but I set precedents)--[Eminem]

[Hook]

(Shady Records was 80 seconds away from the towers
Some cowards fucked with the wrong building, they meant to hit ours)-- [Eminem]
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The list is long and distinguished, with many really nice people. It makes me very very sad to think of these Giants killed by these vermin. vermin = bush senior, he was apparently key instigator in most of the us assassinations. i can't believe how quickly the British public started ass licking the royal family after diane died. Amazing, pathetic.Was i the only person to hear it, but in the last election didn't blair promise to step down after a year, and like the vermin he is he changed his mind and wasn't confronted about this by the media. Double speak in the uk is a long time resident.Did the rot start with thatcher? or did it become evident then?
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Looking back I think that could be right, maybe it's my left wing slant of looking at things, but I really think you can trace a lot of today's ills back to Thatcher. The start of a really massive assault on the working class, the old 'divide and conquer' technique. (It could be said that John Smith could have united ordinary people.) What do we have now in the UK? Class separation, religious separation, immigrants v. indiginous, race (with all the P.C. rubbish), and even the United Kingdom is on the verge of separating. Britain is loosing everything what made it a great country, in the last 30 years or so it has changed beyond recognition.
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That is why we have to be informed and then inform. Peace and Love to the world.

Not Ready To Make Nice lyrics

Forgive, sounds good
Forget, Iím not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But Iím still waiting

Iím through with doubt
Thereís nothing left for me to figure out
Iíve paid a price
And Iíll keep paying

Iím not ready to make nice
Iím not ready to back down
Iím still mad as hell and
I donít have time to go round and round and round
Itís too late to make it right
I probably wouldnít if I could
ĎCause Iím mad as hell
Canít bring myself to do what it is you think I should

I know you said
Canít you just get over it
It turned my whole world around
And I kind of like it

I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I donít mind sayiní
Itís a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That theyíd write me a letter
Sayiní that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

Iím not ready to make nice
Iím not ready to back down
Iím still mad as hell and
I donít have time to go round and round and round
Itís too late to make it right
I probably wouldnít if I could
ĎCause Iím mad as hell
Canít bring myself to do what it is you think I should

Iím not ready to make nice
Iím not ready to back down
Iím still mad as hell and
I donít have time to go round and round and round
Itís too late to make it right
I probably wouldnít if I could
ĎCause Iím mad as hell
Canít bring myself to do what it is you think I should

Forgive, sounds good
Forget, Iím not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But Iím still waiting
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Songs are powerful,no?

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