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| blackcat66
User ID: 348276
8/27/2008 3:19 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
I still contend that if those who wish to discuss the biblical or theological importance or relevance of hurricanes, they should take it to another thread and attempt to do something USEFUL about a possible catastrophe, here... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 492019
There, she said it perfectly. |
| Doominator
User ID: 162364
8/27/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
God hates human pride, it's right by the top of His list (see Bible). What could be more prideful than blatantly advertising and welcoming decadence? So DOOOOMMMMEEED ! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 3:24 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454051
8/27/2008 3:33 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
don't appreciate another trying to invoke censorship. As I said, just skip to the next response. Nobody is making you read any of it.
You are right. This is a public forum and anybody can post whatever they like, unless a Mod., doesn't like it. Excercising my right to express my opinion about religious people twisting threads into religious ones, is what I did.
You and I and everybody else, may follow your advice and skip the posts we don't like.
Hopefully, the reasonable posters, will keep bringing the informations that is in context with the title of this thread. Quoting: blackcat66 348276
Thank you for your rational response. Yes I am following the information on the track of this storm very carefully. I have many relatives in New Orleans. My daughter, her husband, and my three grandchildren live right in the middle of N.O. My sister and brother are there, along with several of my closest friends. I can tell you that some are speaking of this storm in a biblical sense, although not all. So I find any input welcome.
Actually ICE started this thread based on biblical prophecy - which he soon deleted, but it is a perspective that I find interesting based on the fact that it may have relevance to the force and strength of this storm.
I will entertain any idea at this point. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487600
8/27/2008 3:36 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
probably hit land fall weak |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 3:42 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
probably hit land fall weak Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487600
you and kevin martin...he said it would probly barely make a hurricane and hit mexico. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415176
8/27/2008 3:43 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Actually ICE started this thread based on biblical prophecy - which he soon deleted, but it is a perspective that I find interesting based on the fact that it may have relevance to the force and strength of this storm.
I will entertain any idea at this point.
((((((((((((((
100% lie
I can talk for myself!!
I deleted the entire thread because little boys didn't want to talk about the Hurricane and BS flags!!
Paste anything on this thread that I have done that is not about the storm!!
The only reason I come to GLP is to get info or play!!
I would think you have enough brains to figure that out!!
ice |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
8/27/2008 3:45 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
It's a comin'!!!!
Let the lootings and lawlessness begin! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454051
8/27/2008 3:48 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Actually ICE started this thread based on biblical prophecy - which he soon deleted, but it is a perspective that I find interesting based on the fact that it may have relevance to the force and strength of this storm.
I will entertain any idea at this point.
((((((((((((((
100% lie
I can talk for myself!!
I deleted the entire thread because little boys didn't want to talk about the Hurricane and BS flags!!
Paste anything on this thread that I have done that is not about the storm!!
The only reason I come to GLP is to get info or play!!
I would think you have enough brains to figure that out!!
ice Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415176
I apologize immensely. Somewhere I recall a prophecy regarding this storm. I must be mistaken. Maybe it was another thread.
I hold by my opinion still that I will entertain any idea or information at this point. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 3:48 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
It's a comin'!!!!
Let the lootings and lawlessness begin! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
is it time to post the police scanner link yet? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 415176
8/27/2008 3:49 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
don't appreciate another trying to invoke censorship. As I said, just skip to the next response. Nobody is making you read any of it.
You are right. This is a public forum and anybody can post whatever they like, unless a Mod., doesn't like it. Excercising my right to express my opinion about religious people twisting threads into religious ones, is what I did.
You and I and everybody else, may follow your advice and skip the posts we don't like.
Hopefully, the reasonable posters, will keep bringing the informations that is in context with the title of this thread.
Thank you for your rational response. Yes I am following the information on the track of this storm very carefully. I have many relatives in New Orleans. My daughter, her husband, and my three grandchildren live right in the middle of N.O. My sister and brother are there, along with several of my closest friends. I can tell you that some are speaking of this storm in a biblical sense, although not all. So I find any input welcome.
Actually ICE started this thread based on biblical prophecy - which he soon deleted, but it is a perspective that I find interesting based on the fact that it may have relevance to the force and strength of this storm.
I will entertain any idea at this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454051
sorry
I didn't read the whole thing
There is a bunch in here that I have enough of!!
Good luck to your sister!!!
It does look bad!!
God Bless all
ice |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 3:51 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Actually ICE started this thread based on biblical prophecy - which he soon deleted, but it is a perspective that I find interesting based on the fact that it may have relevance to the force and strength of this storm.
I will entertain any idea at this point.
((((((((((((((
100% lie
I can talk for myself!!
I deleted the entire thread because little boys didn't want to talk about the Hurricane and BS flags!!
Paste anything on this thread that I have done that is not about the storm!!
The only reason I come to GLP is to get info or play!!
I would think you have enough brains to figure that out!!
ice
I apologize immensely. Somewhere I recall a prophecy regarding this storm. I must be mistaken. Maybe it was another thread.
I hold by my opinion still that I will entertain any idea or information at this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454051
dont be nice to that asshole after what he just said to you.besides ice is always pasting false prophesies on this forum...so its an honest mistake lol
fire  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 162364
8/27/2008 4:02 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
I just saw Todd and Bruce leaving NOLA...said they were heading for Brokeback Montain.... |
| OneAngryMom 
User ID: 300939
8/27/2008 4:04 PM
 | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
So here's my question:
I don't live in the immediate threat vicinity, I'm in the KC area. This whole GUSTAV threat is astounding to me. I'm both horrified at the prospect of another hurricane hitting where the damage is still not repaired from Katrina, and I'm VERY curious about it (probably in much the same ways as those who hear about and see tornado's are).
I cannot begin to fathom the destruction and the devastation that those who struggled through Katrina experienced, but I do know one thing...I believe we should have (as a nation) learned our lesson and should be mobilizing our strengths instead of focusing on our divisions ESPECIALLY when it comes to theological disputes!
FOR WHATEVER REASON...it APPEARS that the same area that was horribly affected by Katrina is in for another direct HIT! THIS CONCERNS ME!
I find it more than a little ironic that between sewing the seams and the final alterations in a bridal gown and bridesmaids dresses today, for a wedding here in KC on SATURDAY, THOUSANDS OF FOLKS SOMEWHERE in the Gulf area will be forced, once again, to evacuate....to decide what is most important to take with and what they should leave behind. While I make plans to go listen to music at the KC Irish Festival this weekend.....THOUSANDS will have to leave their homes......AGAIN! This makes my knees buckle and my heart heavy!
I want to know what TO DO! I don't want to spend precious time deliberating about prophetic or theological supposition! It DOESN'T MATTER!>>>>>THERE'S A HURRICANE ON THE WAY DOORKNOB!
If evacuations are already being planned....WHAT CAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY DO TO HELP?
I've called someone I know who owns a U-Haul store to ask them to check into the possibility of additional vehicles being delivered last minute to the area. What other organizations or individuals are mobilizing to help? Since I'm not from the area....I HAVE NO CLUE what even CAN be done....or where....or when....or HOW? I feel a bit helpless.....and talk about New Orleans lifestyles that are less than mainstream don't help me understand what CAN BE DONE! This is NO TIME TO PICK A FIGHT!....even a RELIGIOUS ONE!
If individuals choose to dance naked in the flood waters, it's none of my business! If those who would like help evacuating, help those of us who don't have a clue what to do.....MAYBE we can actually do something that is productive, life and property saving, and eternally meaningful! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492153
8/27/2008 4:06 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
[link to sirocco.accuweather.com]
CHECK THAT ACCUWEATHER LINK --I hope it shows--warnings for
Yucatan/Cancun -Cuba and all of the Mex/Tex-to Fla Panhandle. As someone said waaayy back in this thread.-if this gets in to the Gulf- without hitting land---WHOA NELLIE -to whoever is in the way---
Here is a good question to the prayers--If all are praying for the Hurricane not to strike where they are at-and it does hit--This must mean that people in the untouched places prayed harder? |
| Doominator
User ID: 162364
8/27/2008 4:07 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Many of us who were devastated by Katrina were smart enough not to return, and certainly not anywhere near where morons have a Decadence Festival. |
| Kevin_Martin
User ID: 425530
8/27/2008 4:07 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Gustav fell behind. It is now in the GOM window I told you it would be if it slowed down. The window to Mexico is North of Jamaica and going West and it is not there.
So yeah...Uh hide anyone in the Gulf, cya.
Tropical Weather Service
Tropical-Scale-Discussion
Ontario, California
August 27, 2008– 1:00pm PDT
CURRENT - OFFICIAL
www.owsweather.com/gustav3.jpg
Gustav has slowed down to 4mph of forward speed. This is crucial to the track and now it can go either way. No one thought it would buy a ticket and camp overnight in the Islands and then pick up in the morning so tracks are indeed questionable right now. For now have made 5 Scenario tracks.
Scenario 1: Gustav follows the track, maintaining It's current direction and speed. This would bring it to the Yucatan.
Scenario 2: Gustav will have to speed up to 6-7 mph to take this track. From here, a ridge will build Northeast of there and take Gustav sharply North across Western Cuba and into near the Tampa Bay, FL area.
Scenario 3: Gustav will have to speed up to 8-10 mph to take this scenario. From this, it will follow all the tracks until Western Cuba. From there it will take a lot longer to make It's curve, hitting the Florida Peninsula.
Scenario 4: Gustav will have to reach 12-14 mph + of forward speed to get passed the point to turn it into Florida. If it can do this and stay constant; Gustav will hit New Orleans.
NHC Track: NHC track is taking Scenario 4 with a much faster forward speed than it is doing now. NHC must expect this to reach a fast forward speed, hitting New Orleans.
Scenario 5: If Gustav stays below 4 mph of forward movement it will drift WSW some over the next 24 hours, and pass over or just North of Jamaica. It will then keep moving slowly West until it is shoved Southwest toward Mexico. From there it will turn and hit the Southern Yucatan Peninsula.
OWS Track: Right now this is questionable because of Gustav's movement. It has surprised many people by pulling a Fay and sitting in one spot. It has disrupted forecasts and has been very annoying as was Fay. If Gustav starts moving, I would expect it to follow between Scenario 4 and Scenario 3. This takes it into the MS/AL coastal areas.
K. MARTIN |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
8/27/2008 4:11 PM
| | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Hey Kevin....
I'm not trying to take issue with you....I'm learning...
please compare your last post with what is forecast here:
[link to www.nrlmry.navy.mil]
I don't understand, (and would like to) the differences between all of the models and landfall projection..... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 4:13 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
someone posted this site yesterday. awesome website with numerous storm tracks and computer models.
[ link to www.bearpawsweather.com:80]
[ link to www.ssd.noaa.gov]
nice link...look the eye is just now coming off of land and back into open water.the news says it will stay below cuba though which means it will begin to gain strength if that happens.
[link to www.ssd.noaa.gov]
these next few hours will be interesting. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454051
8/27/2008 4:14 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
I firmly believe that most in the New Orleans area are prepared to leave this time. Most that were unable to leave last time have been relocated to Houston and other areas of the country. The population has been greatly reduced in that area, and the majority are self sufficient in that respect.
However, there are those who are weak and infirm, which I believe Governor Jindal has taken the reigns this time, and we will not see the massive loss of life as last time. He is making buses available to those with no transportation, or those unable to drive.
The problem as I see it is that there is a criminal element that will stay in town no matter what. It is a catastrophe of opportunity, and they will take advantage of that. That also happened last time. If they end up losing their lives then so be it. I have no pity for that mentality. |
| Kevin_Martin
User ID: 425530
8/27/2008 4:16 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
The site is NHC's track and such. The NOAA models are just tools to show possible outcomes based on data fed into them.
At this time, Gustav is in a bad spot if it starts moving West at a faster pace and gains intensity. This is bad for the Gulf.
However, Gustav is not wanting to move much. This is throwing every single forecast or model in the garbage for the future track. Heck if it keeps up it will miss the Gulf completely and go elsewhere no one knows...
That's why I had to and was forced to do Scenarios. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18328
8/27/2008 4:17 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Gustav fell behind. It is now in the GOM window I told you it would be if it slowed down. The window to Mexico is North of Jamaica and going West and it is not there.
So yeah...Uh hide anyone in the Gulf, cya.
Tropical Weather Service
Tropical-Scale-Discussion
Ontario, California
August 27, 2008– 1:00pm PDT
CURRENT - OFFICIAL
www.owsweather.com/gustav3.jpg
Gustav has slowed down to 4mph of forward speed. This is crucial to the track and now it can go either way. No one thought it would buy a ticket and camp overnight in the Islands and then pick up in the morning so tracks are indeed questionable right now. For now have made 5 Scenario tracks.
Scenario 1: Gustav follows the track, maintaining It's current direction and speed. This would bring it to the Yucatan.
Scenario 2: Gustav will have to speed up to 6-7 mph to take this track. From here, a ridge will build Northeast of there and take Gustav sharply North across Western Cuba and into near the Tampa Bay, FL area.
Scenario 3: Gustav will have to speed up to 8-10 mph to take this scenario. From this, it will follow all the tracks until Western Cuba. From there it will take a lot longer to make It's curve, hitting the Florida Peninsula.
Scenario 4: Gustav will have to reach 12-14 mph + of forward speed to get passed the point to turn it into Florida. If it can do this and stay constant; Gustav will hit New Orleans.
NHC Track: NHC track is taking Scenario 4 with a much faster forward speed than it is doing now. NHC must expect this to reach a fast forward speed, hitting New Orleans.
Scenario 5: If Gustav stays below 4 mph of forward movement it will drift WSW some over the next 24 hours, and pass over or just North of Jamaica. It will then keep moving slowly West until it is shoved Southwest toward Mexico. From there it will turn and hit the Southern Yucatan Peninsula.
OWS Track: Right now this is questionable because of Gustav's movement. It has surprised many people by pulling a Fay and sitting in one spot. It has disrupted forecasts and has been very annoying as was Fay. If Gustav starts moving, I would expect it to follow between Scenario 4 and Scenario 3. This takes it into the MS/AL coastal areas.
K. MARTIN Quoting: Kevin_Martin
They will want for you to eat hat now, comrade..... |
| Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
8/27/2008 4:21 PM
 | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Many of us who were devastated by Katrina were smart enough not to return, and certainly not anywhere near where morons have a Decadence Festival. Quoting: Doominator 162364
Those who plan the Decadence Festival and attend are primarily OUT OF TOWNERS..from all areas of the U.S.
This isn't the locals doing this.. |
| Kevin_Martin
User ID: 425530
8/27/2008 4:22 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
User ID: 18328 - Not until it meets the speed requirements. This thing is playing games and most likely will not do what people think. |
| Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
8/27/2008 4:23 PM
| | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
I firmly believe that most in the New Orleans area are prepared to leave this time. Most that were unable to leave last time have been relocated to Houston and other areas of the country. The population has been greatly reduced in that area, and the majority are self sufficient in that respect.
However, there are those who are weak and infirm, which I believe Governor Jindal has taken the reigns this time, and we will not see the massive loss of life as last time. He is making buses available to those with no transportation, or those unable to drive.
The problem as I see it is that there is a criminal element that will stay in town no matter what. It is a catastrophe of opportunity, and they will take advantage of that. That also happened last time. If they end up losing their lives then so be it. I have no pity for that mentality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454051
Exactly!
And those of us who leave worry that what the storm doesn't take...the looters will. A horrible feeling wondering if they are in your home and ransacking what little you may have left.. If they wanted food, dry clothes, water...kick my door in and take what you need. But don't rob me blind because you can. |
| Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
8/27/2008 4:23 PM
| | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
User ID: 18328 - Not until it meets the speed requirements. This thing is playing games and most likely will not do what people think. Quoting: Kevin_Martin
Kevin,
What is your gut telling you.
Please be honest. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 4:25 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Gustav fell behind. It is now in the GOM window I told you it would be if it slowed down. The window to Mexico is North of Jamaica and going West and it is not there.
So yeah...Uh hide anyone in the Gulf, cya.
Tropical Weather Service
Tropical-Scale-Discussion
Ontario, California
August 27, 2008– 1:00pm PDT
CURRENT - OFFICIAL
www.owsweather.com/gustav3.jpg
Gustav has slowed down to 4mph of forward speed. This is crucial to the track and now it can go either way. No one thought it would buy a ticket and camp overnight in the Islands and then pick up in the morning so tracks are indeed questionable right now. For now have made 5 Scenario tracks.
Scenario 1: Gustav follows the track, maintaining It's current direction and speed. This would bring it to the Yucatan.
Scenario 2: Gustav will have to speed up to 6-7 mph to take this track. From here, a ridge will build Northeast of there and take Gustav sharply North across Western Cuba and into near the Tampa Bay, FL area.
Scenario 3: Gustav will have to speed up to 8-10 mph to take this scenario. From this, it will follow all the tracks until Western Cuba. From there it will take a lot longer to make It's curve, hitting the Florida Peninsula.
Scenario 4: Gustav will have to reach 12-14 mph + of forward speed to get passed the point to turn it into Florida. If it can do this and stay constant; Gustav will hit New Orleans.
NHC Track: NHC track is taking Scenario 4 with a much faster forward speed than it is doing now. NHC must expect this to reach a fast forward speed, hitting New Orleans.
Scenario 5: If Gustav stays below 4 mph of forward movement it will drift WSW some over the next 24 hours, and pass over or just North of Jamaica. It will then keep moving slowly West until it is shoved Southwest toward Mexico. From there it will turn and hit the Southern Yucatan Peninsula.
OWS Track: Right now this is questionable because of Gustav's movement. It has surprised many people by pulling a Fay and sitting in one spot. It has disrupted forecasts and has been very annoying as was Fay. If Gustav starts moving, I would expect it to follow between Scenario 4 and Scenario 3. This takes it into the MS/AL coastal areas.
K. MARTIN
They will want for you to eat hat now, comrade..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 4:27 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491444
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 4:28 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
[ link to hurricane.accuweather.com]
its going to get pulled to the east not pushed to the west or mexico as tardface says.
[ link to www.wunderground.com]
and we want pics of you eating your hat.i had a hat like that in HIGH SCHOOL lol but it was way more classy.
You're right. They've drastically changed the comp models.
I don't think they are going to be wrong and they sure aren't pointing towrds Mexico, unless the Mexicans suddenly reclaim Tejas.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492019
8/27/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491444
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