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| Hurricane destruction
User ID: 491789
8/26/2008 11:52 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Is it just me, or do others like hurricane destruction. When I hear of a cat 3, I get a warm feeling, and even warmer and fuzzier the higher it gets. Maybe it's because I live in the middle of the desert where the isn't even a remote chance of any natural disaster.
Anyhoodle.. My prediction is GUSTAV CAT 6 destroys New Orleans, goes back to sea and becomes another cat 6, destroying Houston and all gulf oil facilities.
Oil will go to 350$ a barrel by Sept. 1, and my god are we going to have a good time. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484712
8/26/2008 11:56 PM | | Bug
User ID: 84130
8/26/2008 11:57 PM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
That would suck, because I live across the Lake Ponchartrain from New Orleans.
Looks like we're evac'ing again... *sigh*
Sucks to be me, I know!! :( |
| fërú. 
User ID: 491755
8/27/2008 12:06 AM
 | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
this Gustav change his route 4 times in the last 24 hrs.
8U5H - L1E5... 9/II 1N51D3 J08
A 2 1/2 años del Regreso de Quetzalcoatl.
Enki en mi Corazón |
| mopar28m
Luke 16:17
User ID: 491737
8/27/2008 12:17 AM
 | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
[ link to www.skeetobiteweather.com]
THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 315/8...THOUGH GUSTAV MAY RECENTLY BE
MOVING A BIT MORE TO THE RIGHT. THE BIGGEST CHANGE TO NOTE THIS
MORNING IS A DRAMATIC SOUTHWESTWARD SHIFT WITH ALMOST ALL GUIDANCE.
A LARGE UPPER TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC IS EXPECTED TO MOVE
EAST AWAY FROM GUSTAV...LEAVING RIDGING OVER THE BAHAMAS AND
FLORIDA. GLOBAL MODELS HAVE COME INTO MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT THAT
THE HURRICANE WILL TURN TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR EVEN WEST IN A DAY
OR SO DUE TO THIS BUILDING RIDGE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST HAS BEEN
ADJUSTED SOUTHWESTWARD BEYOND 24 HR BUT IS STILL ON THE NORTHERN
EDGE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE. THE FORECAST COULD HAVE BEEN
SHIFTED EVEN MORE TO THE LEFT BUT WE'D PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL THE
GUIDANCE BECOMES MORE STABLE.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 26/0900Z 17.2N 71.9W 75 KT
12HR VT 26/1800Z 18.0N 72.9W 85 KT
24HR VT 27/0600Z 18.8N 74.3W 75 KT
36HR VT 27/1800Z 19.2N 75.6W 80 KT
48HR VT 28/0600Z 19.4N 76.9W 85 KT
72HR VT 29/0600Z 20.0N 79.3W 90 KT
96HR VT 30/0600Z 21.0N 82.0W 100 KT
120HR VT 31/0600Z 23.0N 85.5W 100 KT
New Orleans is once again in the range of a hurricane.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 113248
8/27/2008 12:19 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
On it's present course, the eye of the storm would travel over Morgan City, La., west of New Orleans. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491240
8/27/2008 12:28 AM | | TuLayan Traveler
User ID: 226702
8/27/2008 12:28 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
May all the people of the Gulf Coast Region do what they can to get ready to leave. Be ready. Remember what happened with Katrina if you cannot leave and do not stay in a place that is vulnerable if you really cannot leave. Find higher ground, or higher structures. God be with you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 466636
8/27/2008 12:35 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
We spent some time exploring the physics of tornadoes on another website. Suffice it to say that the mechanism is illustrated clearly in this burning man pyro vortex display:
[link to www.youtube.com]
We weren't able to fully understand the physics of a hurricane though. The same heat pump mechansim is there as in a tornado or thunderstorm.
In essence we were looking at what would casue a super hurricane as opposed to an ordinary hurricane and that required an understanding of the physics of the process. Obviously the hotter the water and the colder the upper atmosphere the stronger the heat pump mechanism.
In the tornado there a phenomenon that is present in a toilet flush, that being that the water that comes up the sides of the toilet converges at the center and to preserve momentum must begin rotating. This is how the tornado gets its spin only its upside down becasue air is compressible as opposed to incompressible water.
But the hurricane has coriolis as a rotation mechanism and it also has an eyewall.
The heat pump works as in the burning man pyro vortex. Moisture laden heated air rises. If this reaches an altitude where it precipitates out it creates a vacuum which pumps more air up. It is just so baffling why the eye forms. It must have something to do with centrifugal force.
Not really fully characterizing it, but very hot ocean and very cool air above would seem to create a very strong storm. Its like increasing the octane rating of the fuel. Hotter ocean temperatures put more moisture in the air and cooler air temps cause the phase change to occur more powerfully. It is really this pump action that determines the peak wind velocity.
The odd thing is that shear is needed for tornadoes but detrimental to hurricanes.
The current Gulf temps are not over 90 so its unlikely that this would cause a superstorm unless it gets hotter.
What could cause it would be a very high lapse rate so that the temp fell of precipitously with altitude.
The northward movement of the jet stream may be a factor.
Here in the midwest we seem to have entered a bipolar temperature regime - either its very hot like 100 or very mild like 70s.
So if we get a cold air mass moving in over a warm Gulf that could be a problem. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491762
8/27/2008 12:47 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Some weather gurus are saying the computer models are predicting there will be a parade of storms in the Atlantic in September-as many as four at once. |
| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 12:48 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Storm Prep Information * [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com]
National Hurricane Center
[link to www.nhc.noaa.gov]
Best Texas Coastal Hurricane forecasters, considered the top hurricane forecast experts on the planet,
Hurricane Central * [link to www.khou.com]
GOES Gulf IR Loop
[link to www.goes.noaa.gov]
I saved this IR Loopmap that seems to be not available publicly, and this is my doctored source code. It includes Lat/Long, Watch/Warning, Radar, NWS Fronts, Tropical Forecast track, Low-Mid-High level winds, & SST.
Copy/paste this into notepad, open up a Publisher program, create webpage, open HTML box, copy in. You will have to take out things like HTML, Body , Head, as it tells you. Then, preview, save the shortcut to desktop.
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| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 12:52 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
In the above post in the Source code, where the links show up in blue short form, be sure to click 'properties', and use the full link in it's place, places.
Above poster , about the parade of storms, click the National Hurricane Center link. The parade has begun. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491819
8/27/2008 1:01 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
In the above post in the Source code, where the links show up in blue short form, be sure to click 'properties', and use the full link in it's place, places.
Above poster , about the parade of storms, click the National Hurricane Center link. The parade has begun. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 491781
Texas Uncensored are you gonna get out of Houston if Gustav comes knockin?or will ya ride him out? |
| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 1:10 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
That depends. I've ridden out all of the others.
Carla was the worst. I was a kid. We evac'd to the school from our very old farm/ranch house where my great grandmother had watched the white caps from the 1906 storm surge, having come inland 18 miles.
Carla did some dancing and turning off the coast, changed directions, and we went home. As soon as we got food in us, it came back at us. I've never heard anything roar like that, hours, terrifying hours all through the nite. The trees bent almost to flat, pine trees. But we made it, minor damage.
Houston is far enough inland that we get diminished winds, although still bad if it's a direct hit. If the winds are 110 or under if it comes through here, we'll ride it out. Any higher than that, we're out of here. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491800
8/27/2008 1:14 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Was ac who first asked this question.
Ice, I am glad to see you back posting on your thread.
Don't let these people to get to you. Be who you are and don't worry about the fluff.
Get that GLP thick skin, and never mind the A-holes.
Why are you deleting your posts?
cuz he realized he was being an alarmist woo-woo
sometimes I just don't feel like playing with the kids!!
ice Quoting: Ice |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489543
8/27/2008 1:16 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Is it just me, or do others like hurricane destruction. When I hear of a cat 3, I get a warm feeling, and even warmer and fuzzier the higher it gets. Maybe it's because I live in the middle of the desert where the isn't even a remote chance of any natural disaster.
Anyhoodle.. My prediction is GUSTAV CAT 6 destroys New Orleans, goes back to sea and becomes another cat 6, destroying Houston and all gulf oil facilities.
Oil will go to 350$ a barrel by Sept. 1, and my god are we going to have a good time.
--------------------
Sounds reasonable to me! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491151
8/27/2008 1:20 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
With the GOP convention set to begin Sept. 1, there is NO WAY
TPTB will risk an untimely reminder of Katrina.
They will use everything at their disposal to steer this hurricane away form the US while other nations will seek to intensify the storm.
Should get interesting. |
| iamanotheru
User ID: 480299
8/27/2008 1:21 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
This will be a big one where ever it hits ....
remember this a week from now . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491819
8/27/2008 1:25 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
That depends. I've ridden out all of the others.
Carla was the worst. I was a kid. We evac'd to the school from our very old farm/ranch house where my great grandmother had watched the white caps from the 1906 storm surge, having come inland 18 miles.
Carla did some dancing and turning off the coast, changed directions, and we went home. As soon as we got food in us, it came back at us. I've never heard anything roar like that, hours, terrifying hours all through the nite. The trees bent almost to flat, pine trees. But we made it, minor damage.
Houston is far enough inland that we get diminished winds, although still bad if it's a direct hit. If the winds are 110 or under if it comes through here, we'll ride it out. Any higher than that, we're out of here. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 491781
After carla i would think you would run for the hills,i road one out back in the 80s in mobile Al.I think it was fredrick?anyway i went with a friend ta pick-up her brother at a big ship called the Alabama.
Got caught and had ta stay,all the water sucked out of the bay and then came crashing back in,beating-up the ship and sunk the tiny sub and the plane on deck was torn off.
I was watching out a small port window,cool but very scary at the same time.
Hope that you stay safe if Gustav comes our way,im getting out of town myself if that storm comes a knockin. |
| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 1:33 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
491819, wow, that sounds like quite a ride ! After a big one, such as Carla with 165 wind gusts, or Frederick as I recall being a bad bad boy, something with winds in the 100 mph don't seem so bad if not near the storm surge.
We went to the beach a couple of days after Carla, checking our rice crop on the way. About 1 mile south of the school, the evac center, sea weed was hanging off of the telephone & electrical lines that remained.
Freaky. Absolutely freaky.
Be safe, take precautions, and bug out if you have any doubts about staying. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490514
8/27/2008 2:53 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
With the GOP convention set to begin Sept. 1, there is NO WAY
TPTB will risk an untimely reminder of Katrina.
They will use everything at their disposal to steer this hurricane away form the US while other nations will seek to intensify the storm.
Should get interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491151
If only we could get Kevin Martin to fly a hang glider through the center of this and report on it. Someone call him, tell him we have a special special mission for him of historic performance.
Or just watch the Weather Channel, get more info that way. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 329158
8/27/2008 3:01 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
With the GOP convention set to begin Sept. 1, there is NO WAY
TPTB will risk an untimely reminder of Katrina.
They will use everything at their disposal to steer this hurricane away form the US while other nations will seek to intensify the storm.
Should get interesting.
If only we could get Kevin Martin to fly a hang glider through the center of this and report on it. Someone call him, tell him we have a special special mission for him of historic performance.
Or just watch the Weather Channel, get more info that way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490514
Id pay big money on ppv to see that.He is the What about Bobs of weather forecasting. |
| TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 491781
8/27/2008 3:52 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
That's why Houston area meteorologists are usually from the area, or from the coast. These guys have earned the respect of people around here. They will tell you straight up that these storms can change motion on a whim.
You need to feel the air, the heat, the vacuum like feeling when you breath, smell the salt in the air, the warm air topped with cool, the subtle wind that switches from one direction to another before it comes in.
Computer imaging is great, fantastic really. But it takes experiencing to make a great forecaster. |
| [vishuz]
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User ID: 432360
8/27/2008 4:32 AM
 | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447638
8/27/2008 5:13 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
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| [vishuz]
Ganja smoker :]
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8/27/2008 5:18 AM
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| | winddancer144
User ID: 82213
8/27/2008 6:11 AM | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
Humpf after katrina which i personly witnessed myself, there is no way in hell i would ride one out if its higher than a cat 1 maybe a 2, 3 or higher forget run like forest, and dont look back. 2 4 6 8 everybody evacuate ! |
| Ice
User ID: 474255
8/27/2008 6:22 AM
 | | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
[link to www.nhc.noaa.gov]
well, I always go to the NHC 5 day
It is really starting to look like New Orleans is in Major troulbe and all of S. Louisiana!!!
Long way to go but all you can do is watch 3/5 day forecast tracks!
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
| Ice
User ID: 474255
8/27/2008 6:25 AM
| | Re: Gustav - Cat 3 in Gulf now! | Quote |
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man! bad
ice
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. |
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