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Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487089
8/29/2008 7:44 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
No, you lay waste and then leave....
Vietnam being a prime example |
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G. House
User ID: 493532
8/29/2008 7:45 PM
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Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333904
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487089
8/29/2008 7:46 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers".
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them. Quoting: G. House
[link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside. |
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G. House
User ID: 493532
8/29/2008 7:47 PM
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No, you lay waste and then leave....
Vietnam being a prime example Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487089
Viet Nam?
The extablished government at the time had asked for our help, we did not invade Viet Nam. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487089
8/29/2008 7:50 PM | |
Rebekah
User ID: 482675
8/29/2008 7:50 PM
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[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
no evidence of a passport. only photocopies of what is claimed to be a passport.
“Prepare your proof before you argue”
- Jewish Proverb
okay, this is me [link to profiles.yahoo.com] |
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G. House
User ID: 493532
8/29/2008 7:50 PM
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Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers".
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them.
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
So what? Mercenaries are quite common in conflicts such as these.
Georgia is a sovereign nation and have the right to have anyone help them that they wish.
How many of the S. Ossetian separatists that were firing on the Georgians were in reality shipped in Russian colonists?
And they had passports too. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487089
8/29/2008 7:52 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers".
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them.
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
So what? Mercenaries are quite common in conflicts such as these.
Georgia is a sovereign nation and have the right to have anyone help them that they wish.
How many of the S. Ossetian separatists that were firing on the Georgians were in reality shipped in Russian colonists?
And they had passports too.
Yes, remember the Bay of Pigs? |
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dinosaurex
User ID: 352769
8/29/2008 7:52 PM
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The Kremlin moved swiftly to tighten its grip on Georgia’s breakaway regions yesterday as South Ossetia announced that it would soon become part of Russia, which will open military bases in the province under an agreement to be signed on Tuesday. Quoting: News Source
All your regions are belong to us.
Resistance is much futile.
No escape our bear.
Nyet, nyet, nyet!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 7:53 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers".
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them.
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
The article stated, a US citizen was there. And even the Russian general stated he does not know what the US citizen was doing there. Geesh, for I care that US citizen was a homosexual that was looking for some fine Georgian homeboys (well "commandos" have fit bodies).
Funny though how the article is insinuating as if American commandos are participating in the killings of Russian "peacekeepers". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487089
8/29/2008 7:54 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
no evidence of a passport. only photocopies of what is claimed to be a passport.
Just like the New Zealand passports that got Israeli's jailed for and reappeared in Iraq... |
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Baerwolfe
User ID: 467001
8/29/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Interesting how we haven't really heard anything from the S. Ossetian people. You'd think that the Russians, and even the Ossetians, would be joyously proclaiming their newfound "freedom" from Georgia's oppressive rule...that in order to quell worldwide condemnation, they'd be proclaiming their joy and happiness to all that will listen.
Wonder why we haven't heard anything?
I think I see a big 'ol bear in the closet, he's really hungry, and the Ossetian sheep are too scared to do anything about it....
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
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squeemish
User ID: 370073
8/29/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
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squeemish
User ID: 370073
8/29/2008 8:02 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
? Russia is ANNEXING LAND or  ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 8:03 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Yeah lol, especially handing out South-Osettians Russian passports and still having Russian soldiers stationed as "peace keepers".
"Peace keepers" that turned a blind eye to S. Ossetian separatists firing upon Georgian positions for 3 days GOADING the Georgians into attacking them.
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
U.S. citizen was among Georgian commandos - Russian Military
A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.
The article stated, a US citizen was there. And even the Russian general stated he does not know what the US citizen was doing there. Geesh, for I care that US citizen was a homosexual that was looking for some fine Georgian homeboys (well "commandos" have fit bodies).
Funny though how the article is insinuating as if American commandos are participating in the killings of Russian "peacekeepers".
HAH! Look also at the picture - it has strong psychological associations (often used in propaganda tactics I might add), a passport with an American weapon (M4?) lying on the ground. As if the dangerous American commando ran away from the brave Russian peacekeepers and dropped his weapon and passport while fleeing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 285881
8/29/2008 8:05 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Well it seems like S. Ossetia wants to be united or re-united with N. Ossetia/Russia so Russia's not forcing this, they are taken advantage of the stupid move by Georgia. This will also kill Georgia's bid for NATO if they don't agree to it. Can't join NATO with "territorial integrity issues" according to their own charter. If Georgia really wants to be part of NATO, they'll have to redefine their borders and as soon as they do, Russia will derail them again by doing the same thing in the other province. I'd say Russia is playing this one brilliantly because nobody can stop them without dragging everybody into a major conflict, which at the end of the day, the world will not be willing to go to war behind Georgia. Vodka anyone? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493595
8/29/2008 8:15 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
The Forsaken
During the 1930s, work was hard to find in the United States and for the first time more people were leaving than arriving. Many opted for the USSR, the vaunted worker’s paradise where, as legend had it, scientific socialism prevailed, as opposed to the chaos of capitalism. The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin’s Russia, tells their story, and a lot more.
Some were committed communists but most were ordinary American workers, mechanics, machinists, electricians, a multi-tasking group. They arrived full of enthusiasm and played baseball in Gorky Park, unaware that their exploitation had already begun and their demise would not be long delayed. They may have got a hint when the Soviets grabbed their passports, which the regime later used to insert spies into the United States.
In the USSR, the Americans became “witness to, and victims of, the most sustained campaign of state terror in modern history.” That judgment comes in the early going, a clue that author Tim Tzouliadis sees this horror story with clarity. No moral equivalence between USA and USSR in this account.
The master terrorist was Stalin, who targeted the Americans as wreckers, spies and saboteurs. According to the logic, socialism is perfect so if things are not going well, and they weren’t, it can only be due to deliberate sabotage. The Americans not summarily executed disappeared into prisons and slave labor camps. It was terror on a scale that beggared belief, and the author, a documentary filmmaker and television journalist, has assembled the tragic stories. There is no photo section, which would have given faces to the names.
Consider the case of Arthur Talent, a gifted violinist who came to study at the Moscow Conservatory. He was arrested, tortured, and executed at the age of 21. In other cases, the Soviets reasoned that if they released a certain prisoner he might be used to criticize the USSR, so they killed them. Many others perished in the Gulag, where they had been transported in American ships and American trucks, to work in conditions far worse than any slavery to that time. These Americans were truly forsaken, by their own government.
Tzouliadis shows how Joseph Davies, Roosevelt’s ambassador to the USSR, knew full well about their cases but did nothing. The forsaken Americans got no help from Harry Hopkins, Henry Wallace or Stalinist devotees such as Paul Robeson. For the Soviets’ alibi armory, the attitude was your country, right or wrong. Any criticism would play into the hands of anti-communists, and the forsaken Americans were on the wrong end of that dynamic, which lives on to this day.
Some of the material, such as Walter Duranty’s New York Times falsification of the Ukraine famine, will be familiar to those well acquainted with the literature. The Forsaken will serve as a well-documented gateway to the wider literature, and its account of Stalin’s fathomless evil is particularly chilling. Tzouliadis goes the second mile on the Nazi-Soviet Pact, the murder of the Polish officers in the Katyn forest, Stalin’s show trials of the old Bolsheviks, and the wider historical background. It will be good for readers to know that the Soviets took over some of the same concentrations camps the Nazis had used, and deployed them in the same deadly cause, with the same efficiency. Here the Soviet regime comes off as much worse, and of course it lasted much longer than National Socialist Germany.
Stalin’s Great Terror did not end in the late 1930s. Here are the stories of American servicemen who had been taken captive by the Germans and whom the Soviets carted off to the Gulag, where they stayed through the Cold War. American general John Deane wrote them off as “spoils of war, won by the Soviets. They may be robbed, starved and abused – and no one has the right to question such treatment.” As the author noted, the Americans unacknowledged presence would remain an official secret, guarded by the American and Soviet governments, until the fall of the Soviet Union.
Some of those who had played baseball in Gorky Park, such as Thomas Sgovio, miraculously survived past that time. What of the countless others? The best hope, according to Tzouliadis, is the archives of the former KGB, where “three quarters of the archival evidence has yet to be examined.” Unfortunately, “while the KGB archives and Stalin’s personal archives remain closed, there is little cause for optimism.” The author is well aware that Vladimir Putin is a former KGB boss and that Stalin is enjoying a revival while journalists get murdered in Russia.
“In the Soviet Union there was never a victorious army to expose the consequences of Stalin’s rule,” writes Tzouliadis, “nor would there ever be a Nuremberg. Instead the victims of Kolyma and every other terminal point of the Gulag remained concealed even as the killings continued unabated.”
The Forsaken is indeed an American tragedy but also a cautionary tale and chronicle of shame. The United States should own up to the way it abandoned its own citizens in deference to a totalitarian state and its gangster rulers. It is perhaps too audacious a hope that some American president should press for revelations and even reparations. |
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psyop
User ID: 370073
8/29/2008 8:16 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
HAH! Look also at the picture - it has strong psychological associations (often used in propaganda tactics I might add), a passport with an American weapon (M4?) lying on the ground. As if the dangerous American commando ran away from the brave Russian peacekeepers and dropped his weapon and passport while fleeing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493251
8/29/2008 8:25 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Recognize their independance to "absorb" them?
Freedom?
I thought the S. Ossetians wanted freedom?
Was there some sort of election to be "absorbed"?
No wonder the Georgians cut diplomatic relations.
No need for an election. The people attacked were Russians who feel loyal to Russia. Would you first have an election amongst Americans living on the border of Mexico if the Mexicons had attacked them? LOL!
Oh, dear! Yet another weak argument, G. House.
The hell it is.
The Russians recognize the S. Ossetians independance, yet are going to "absorb" them?
No election, they just do it?
No conflict in that at all?
This forum is so transparently filled with anti-West shills. Quoting: G. House
I thought it was filled with Zionist shills.
Anyway, it's not my country right or wrong. It's my country right, and correct the wrongs that some idiots commit in my name. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370073
8/29/2008 8:25 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
false flag operation conducted by Mossad operatives in Georgia against American targets |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493599
8/29/2008 8:26 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
McCain condoned ethnic cleansing in Georgia
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 8:26 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
[ link to www.russiatoday.com]
HAH! Look also at the picture - it has strong psychological associations (often used in propaganda tactics I might add), a passport with an American weapon (M4?) lying on the ground. As if the dangerous American commando ran away from the brave Russian peacekeepers and dropped his weapon and passport while fleeing.
Still funny though that the article is mentioning that the general does not know what the American citizen was doing there - yet the article is clearly insinuating (coupled with a strong associative picture - article didn't even mention that the passport with the weapon was found) that American commandos are participating in "genocide" on Russian citizens and the killings of "Russian peacekeepers". |
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MAX
User ID: 335332
8/29/2008 8:26 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
THE TIMES CAREFULLY CRAFTED BULLSHIT, HOW COME ALL THE PAPERS IN ZIONIST CON,T WESTERN MEDIA SAID NO SUPPORT FROM CHINA AND ASIAN TRADE ORG, YET ALL THE ASIAN PAPERS AND IN CHINA SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE, LIKE I SAID, CAREFULLY CRAFTED BULLSHIT, OF COURS THE YANKS ARE REARMING GEORGIA, EVERYONE IS DIGGIN IN FOR THE LONG HAUL, THEY DON,T WANT NO WEEKEND WAR NEXT TIME, YOU DON,T PROFIT THAT WAY. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380667
8/29/2008 8:29 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
Two pages and it hasn't been uttered yet???
AND SO IT BEGINS. Bwahahhahhahahahhahahahahahaha
My first time. Man, that felt good. |
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nonmaterial structure 
User ID: 493144
8/29/2008 8:30 PM
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Mr Cheney goes to Georgia
United States Vice President Dick Cheney heads to Georgia next week, complementing the port visit of US warships delivering humanitarian assistance, most likely to pledge American military assistance to beleaguered Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who must now deal with Russia's recognition of the independence of the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
[link to www.atimes.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493556
8/29/2008 8:32 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
good! they broke away from georgia because they wanted away, no one should tell them they have to stay where they didn't want to be. stupid bush!
I agree! Chechnya and Taiwan should be independent too for example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333904
Sure, but;
Chechnya -> who cares?
Taiwan -> as long as they pay the subscription, all will be happy.
Birma, Darfur, Somalia, Tibet,... where's the battle ship? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 8:36 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
THE TIMES CAREFULLY CRAFTED BULLSHIT, HOW COME ALL THE PAPERS IN ZIONIST CON,T WESTERN MEDIA SAID NO SUPPORT FROM CHINA AND ASIAN TRADE ORG, YET ALL THE ASIAN PAPERS AND IN CHINA SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE, LIKE I SAID, CAREFULLY CRAFTED BULLSHIT, OF COURS THE YANKS ARE REARMING GEORGIA, EVERYONE IS DIGGIN IN FOR THE LONG HAUL, THEY DON,T WANT NO WEEKEND WAR NEXT TIME, YOU DON,T PROFIT THAT WAY. Quoting: MAX 335332
Yes and China has made a statement that it is concerned on Russia's recognition of the independence of South-Ossettia and Abchazia. Furthermore, the whole SCO including China except Russia, does not recognize the independence of South-Ossetia and Abchazia.
I also do not think China will do that - China seldom to never has supported seperatism in international politics due to e.g. Taiwan, Tibet and other provinces. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 8:38 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
good! they broke away from georgia because they wanted away, no one should tell them they have to stay where they didn't want to be. stupid bush!
I agree! Chechnya and Taiwan should be independent too for example.
Sure, but;
Chechnya -> who cares?
Taiwan -> as long as they pay the subscription, all will be happy.
Birma, Darfur, Somalia, Tibet,... where's the battle ship? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493556
Somalia, the US was there and got accused of imperialism. Tibet - yeah, that's nice a thermonuclear war with China. Darfur - blocked by China's veto.
Well obviously you do not care. |
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dinosaurex
User ID: 352769
8/29/2008 8:44 PM
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United States Vice President Dick Cheney heads to Georgia next week, complementing the port visit of US warships delivering humanitarian assistance, most likely to pledge American military assistance to beleaguered Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who must now deal with Russia's recognition of the independence of the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
[ link to www.atimes.com]
"I'm goin' big bear huntin'.
Lock and load, Pooty-poot." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
8/29/2008 8:46 PM | | Re: Kremlin announces merging of South Ossetia with Russia | Quote |
United States Vice President Dick Cheney heads to Georgia next week, complementing the port visit of US warships delivering humanitarian assistance, most likely to pledge American military assistance to beleaguered Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who must now deal with Russia's recognition of the independence of the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
[ link to www.atimes.com]
"I'm goin' big bear huntin'.
Lock and load, Pooty-poot."
Aaaah feck, especially the words "...most likely to pledge American military assistance..." is quite worrying. |
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