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The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...

 
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We've got the Christians, Jews and Muslims who think their god is the biggest and baddest and that they are Chosen. Since they all come from the same seed as Abraham and one might assume the same god, won't it be great when all three discover they are all Chosen and just have to get over it.

I think that's after the Big War where they all try and kill each other off, however.

If you gotta kill all the rest to prove you are Chosen, maybe there is something to Jesus' words that they who live by the sword will die by the sword.
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We've got the Christians, Jews and Muslims who think their god is the biggest and baddest and that they are Chosen. Since they all come from the same seed as Abraham and one might assume the same god, won't it be great when all three discover they are all Chosen and just have to get over it.

I think that's after the Big War where they all try and kill each other off, however.

If you gotta kill all the rest to prove you are Chosen, maybe there is something to Jesus' words that they who live by the sword will die by the sword.
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Do you even know what mu'slim means?

I don't think so, because you've been taught the English dictionary version of the arabic word "mu'slim".
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

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Definitions don't matter much when humans have their weapons drawn for god. We have here three major religions ... call them what you will ... backed up with lots of firepower that each think they are special and have a divine right to kill the other two. And they are going to get us all killed or wish we were, in the process.
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Re: The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...
And no one ELSE is either!



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Heck, the Jews aren't even Jews. Khazar Jews are of neither the blood nor the spirit of Abraham. They joined jewry kind of like one would join the Masons.

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You quoted Paul,you need to read Romans esp. chapter 9

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Why was Israel blinded? To bring us the Gentiles into the Kingdom of God and how should we act?

Boast not against the branches(Israel)

He repeats the enemies of the cross here and what else does he say


As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes : but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes



Beloved for the fathers' sakes
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And you need to read the book of Ephesians. Ephesians is one of the so-called prison epistles, one of Paul's latter writings, written after his letter to the Romans. In it he claims to be imparting new revelations just imparted to him by God.

One of those revelations is that any and all distinction between Jew and Gentile has been completely abolished and superceded by a higher truth. That truth is that God has created ONE new man out of the two. One new man in Christ. Any concept of "Jew" and "Gentile", and the division it implies, is now completely irrelevant and false.

Ephesians 2:11ff:

Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands — that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation ...
so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity ...

Any talk of distinctions between jew and gentile is a throwback to an obsolete era and represents ignorance and rejection of the fullness of God's plan and revelation.
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Re: The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...
Duuuh
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You quoted Paul,you need to read Romans esp. chapter 9 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Why was Israel blinded? To bring us the Gentiles into the Kingdom of God and how should we act?

Boast not against the branches(Israel)

He repeats the enemies of the cross here and what else does he say


As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes : but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes



Beloved for the fathers' sakes
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To get a full understanding of Paul's dissertation read Romans Chapers 9-11. It is very clear from the Old Testament and the New Testament that there remains a "remnent" of Israel that will always be God's chosen.
"I like Sub Commanders. They don't have time for bullshit, neither do I." (Franklin Roosevelt)
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Re: The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...
You quoted Paul,you need to read Romans esp. chapter 9 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Why was Israel blinded? To bring us the Gentiles into the Kingdom of God and how should we act?

Boast not against the branches(Israel)

He repeats the enemies of the cross here and what else does he say


As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes : but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes



Beloved for the fathers' sakes
 Quoting: mathetes


To get a full understanding of Paul's dissertation read Romans Chapers 9-11. It is very clear from the Old Testament and the New Testament that there remains a "remnent" of Israel that will always be God's chosen.
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Todays jews are not the same jews of then and there.
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Re: The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...
You quoted Paul,you need to read Romans esp. chapter 9 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Why was Israel blinded? To bring us the Gentiles into the Kingdom of God and how should we act?

Boast not against the branches(Israel)

He repeats the enemies of the cross here and what else does he say


As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes : but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes



Beloved for the fathers' sakes
 Quoting: mathetes


To get a full understanding of Paul's dissertation read Romans Chapers 9-11. It is very clear from the Old Testament and the New Testament that there remains a "remnent" of Israel that will always be God's chosen.
 Quoting: Fighting Spartan


Todays jews are not the same jews of then and there.
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For the most part, your right. But God has made it very clear He will keep a certain number (or remnant) of the Jewish people to fulfil His covenant with Israel. There is nothing that apostate Jews, Muslims or anyone else in the world can do to change this.
"I like Sub Commanders. They don't have time for bullshit, neither do I." (Franklin Roosevelt)
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Re: The Jews are NOT Gods chosen people...
I did not read all of this, as I am so tired, but Dude, The Jews are the most hated people in the world and it was written that they would be. God has chastised them; what makes you think this is a pretty picture? The point is that if God could do this to His own, what pray tell will He do to all others??? They rejected His son and so they have paid heavily.

They are the example of what NOT to do. But, just as with any rebellious and disobedient child...we do not hate them forever, do we? If they come to us and say sorry, we forgive them, we still love them; and that is what is going to happen them, God still loves them.

Don't be jealous, really. God allowed this so that all others could receive the same gift He was giving them, so that their transgression actually saved us. Don't you get it???

Romans 11

11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

7 What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, 8 as it is written:

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes so that they could not see
and ears so that they could not hear,
to this very day.”
9 And David says:

“May their table become a snare and a trap,
a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.”

11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!

13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgments,
and his paths beyond tracing out!
34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has been his counselor?”
35 “Who has ever given to God,
that God should repay him?”
36 For from him and through him and to him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

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