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Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
8/31/2008 11:34 PM
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Here are a few thoughts for the Christian population that are about to make the most important vote of their lives (eternally too)
Obama/Biden represent Pro Choice or murder.
McCain/Palin represent Pro Life or protection.
Never in history has there been such a deciding vote.
You are either with God or against God here folks.
If you are a Christian you have no choice but to vote for McCain/Palin as they represent the moral ticket. It doesn't matter who wins or what the other issues are abortion is murder. I think that God has drawn the line in the sand and now you will choose what you represent not what you say but what you do is what matters here.
Again, you are either with God or against God but with this vote you won't be on the fence. God has created this situation for many reasons but one for sure is the very distinction of whether you are all talk and no action or you vote what is morally correct.
I personally don't care for McCain as he is the same politics over again like the last 8 years, but I cannot vote for Obama/Biden morally therefore I must being true to God first and vote for McCain on abortion alone. Not a hard choice really!
I know I will get all my favorite followers on this one bashing my doors in but it's not about you it's about making the Christians think about what they are really voting for by voting for Obama. Who wins doesn't really matter it's what each of us do that matters; individually.
Follower of Jesus |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283565
8/31/2008 11:40 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485417
8/31/2008 11:43 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
well, here's something that I have always wondered about...
since Christians are very concerned about stopping abortions then I wonder why they aren't broadly promoting help and support services for single women who are in a situation where they have an unwanted pregnancy.
There are plenty of people here in this country who would love to adopt a child and this could be a ministry of support for would be parents and the pregnant mother.
I just wish instead of standing out in the streets condemning abortion christians would work on a solution rather than wasting precious energy attacking women who are exercising their lawful right to an abortion.
If there were more christians who would really be the example that Christ set for us then the world would be a much easier place to be in a tight spot in.
okay go ahead and misread what I am saying and flame me like most christians are want to do.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 283565
8/31/2008 11:43 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
McCain wants an exception for rape and incest; Palin does not.
Watch from 35 seconds [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
8/31/2008 11:48 PM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 283565
Ok he is correct there would be illegal abortions that is true, but he is still against abortion where the other guy wants to outright kill babies in massive numbers. McCain made a true statement but that doesn't mean that because some will have abortions anyway that it should be legal; it's called compromising and you are either for God or against him no in between and if you don't see that then you must go vote for Obama. Again the choice is yours and you make my point even clearer. |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
8/31/2008 11:49 PM
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well, here's something that I have always wondered about...
since Christians are very concerned about stopping abortions then I wonder why they aren't broadly promoting help and support services for single women who are in a situation where they have an unwanted pregnancy.
There are plenty of people here in this country who would love to adopt a child and this could be a ministry of support for would be parents and the pregnant mother.
I just wish instead of standing out in the streets condemning abortion christians would work on a solution rather than wasting precious energy attacking women who are exercising their lawful right to an abortion.
If there were more christians who would really be the example that Christ set for us then the world would be a much easier place to be in a tight spot in.
okay go ahead and misread what I am saying and flame me like most christians are want to do.
I agree totally! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485417
8/31/2008 11:51 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
so... Jesus or Obama? you aren't loyal to Jesus if you vote for Obama? |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
8/31/2008 11:52 PM
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so... Jesus or Obama? you aren't loyal to Jesus if you vote for Obama? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 485417
Correct. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 437959
8/31/2008 11:57 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
I'm against abortion and pre-emptive wars. They both are murder and against what Yeshua taught. That is why I don't support either one. My conscious will only allow me to support Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin. Listen to what Chuck Baldwin says for a real Christian perspective. |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
8/31/2008 11:59 PM
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I'm against abortion and pre-emptive wars. They both are murder and against what Yeshua taught. That is why I don't support either one. My conscious will only allow me to support Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin. Listen to what Chuck Baldwin says for a real Christian perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437959
I agree. I think that both of those guys are much better than either Obama or McCain unfortunetly they aren't on the ticket or I would vote for them in a heartbeat.
There are only 2 choices therefore I must vote for the lesser evil. |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
9/1/2008 12:01 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340476
9/1/2008 12:04 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
GOV, PALIN ABORT. ONLY IF THE MOTHERS LIFE IN DANGER. IS'NT THAT WHAT PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION IS ABOUT.   |
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PACNWguy 
User ID: 366950
9/1/2008 12:10 AM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 283565
Does it matter what either of them think personally?
More women voted for Bush than Kerry and Bush actually got more pro abortion women.
McCain and Palin (when she is president) will be picking Supreme court justices who have to be approved by congress. That is as far as their personal beliefs can enter the picture.
Overturning Roe would be great. I am pretty sure there would be provisions for incest and rape, but those numbers, including the numbers of women who would die from botched illegal abortions are tiny compared to the number of women who are maimed or die from complications of legal abortion.
OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
9/1/2008 12:11 AM
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GOV, PALIN ABORT. ONLY IF THE MOTHERS LIFE IN DANGER. IS'NT THAT WHAT PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION IS ABOUT.
Even if I had to chose for less abortions as opposed to the rate we are killing babies today it's still an improvement and I must vote for the lesser evil.
I hear the first thing Obama is going to do when he gets into office is make it impossible to turn over Roe VS Wade. I would say he wants American babies to die!
Sorry if that "sounds" harsh but can you imagine what it must look like over the course of a year. People get real it's not about the mother it's about the baby and murder.
Extreme you may think but it's only due to the extreme brainwashing that people have been given today that makes what I am saying unreasonable....blind is the world and those in it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485417
9/1/2008 12:23 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
well, here's something that I have always wondered about...
since Christians are very concerned about stopping abortions then I wonder why they aren't broadly promoting help and support services for single women who are in a situation where they have an unwanted pregnancy.
There are plenty of people here in this country who would love to adopt a child and this could be a ministry of support for would be parents and the pregnant mother.
I just wish instead of standing out in the streets condemning abortion christians would work on a solution rather than wasting precious energy attacking women who are exercising their lawful right to an abortion.
If there were more christians who would really be the example that Christ set for us then the world would be a much easier place to be in a tight spot in.
okay go ahead and misread what I am saying and flame me like most christians are want to do.
ya know, I had a feeling that no one would respond to this suggestion because it's a compassionate alternative.
come on people, Jesus last commandment was that we love one another. |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
9/1/2008 12:40 AM
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well, here's something that I have always wondered about...
since Christians are very concerned about stopping abortions then I wonder why they aren't broadly promoting help and support services for single women who are in a situation where they have an unwanted pregnancy.
There are plenty of people here in this country who would love to adopt a child and this could be a ministry of support for would be parents and the pregnant mother.
I just wish instead of standing out in the streets condemning abortion christians would work on a solution rather than wasting precious energy attacking women who are exercising their lawful right to an abortion.
If there were more christians who would really be the example that Christ set for us then the world would be a much easier place to be in a tight spot in.
okay go ahead and misread what I am saying and flame me like most christians are want to do.
ya know, I had a feeling that no one would respond to this suggestion because it's a compassionate alternative.
come on people, Jesus last commandment was that we love one another.
I agreed with you.  |
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LOGGY'S DOGGY'S
User ID: 340476
9/1/2008 12:42 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
GOV, PALIN ABORT. ONLY IF THE MOTHERS LIFE IN DANGER. IS'NT THAT WHAT PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION IS ABOUT.
Even if I had to chose for less abortions as opposed to the rate we are killing babies today it's still an improvement and I must vote for the lesser evil.
I hear the first thing Obama is going to do when he gets into office is make it impossible to turn over Roe VS Wade. I would say he wants American babies to die!
Sorry if that "sounds" harsh but can you imagine what it must look like over the course of a year. People get real it's not about the mother it's about the baby and murder.
Extreme you may think but it's only due to the extreme brainwashing that people have been given today that makes what I am saying unreasonable....blind is the world and those in it.
20000 CHILDREN DIE EVERY DAY HUNGER RELATED ENDLESS WARS JUST AS MANY ABORTIONS BEFORE ROE V WADE AND YOU KEEP PUTTING THESE FASCIST PIGS BACK IN OFFICE JESUS TOLD US TO FEED AND CLOTH NOT KILL AND CONTROL YES YOUR RIGHT ABOUT YOUR BRAINWASHING. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 494770
9/1/2008 1:55 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
McCain DROPPED BOMBS on human beings in Vietnam. Real flesh and blood PEOPLE of all ages. Including pregnant women.
But according to you the only crime would have been against the fetuses ?
Get real already. You are insane. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 485417
9/1/2008 2:05 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
McCain DROPPED BOMBS on human beings in Vietnam. Real flesh and blood PEOPLE of all ages. Including pregnant women.
But according to you the only crime would have been against the fetuses ?
Get real already. You are insane. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 494770
but that's the logic of the evangelical christian right.
it's so frightening to me that they even seem to be hastening and putting the political players together that will bring about the end of the world. And even then they think that's a good thing.
Sometimes I wonder if earth is not some kind of sociological experiment to see how long we will last as a species. |
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Follower of Jesus
User ID: 492803
9/1/2008 9:02 AM
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McCain DROPPED BOMBS on human beings in Vietnam. Real flesh and blood PEOPLE of all ages. Including pregnant women.
But according to you the only crime would have been against the fetuses ?
Get real already. You are insane.
but that's the logic of the evangelical christian right.
it's so frightening to me that they even seem to be hastening and putting the political players together that will bring about the end of the world. And even then they think that's a good thing.
Sometimes I wonder if earth is not some kind of sociological experiment to see how long we will last as a species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 485417
We will be persecuted by people such as yourself and thats ok because we know where we are going.
Do you know where you are going? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474794
9/2/2008 5:14 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
Palin’s 17-Year-Old Daughter Is Pregnant With Bastard Child
“Wow so this just in, Sarah Palin - John McCain's running mate's 17-year-old daughter, Bristol is 5 months pregnant. What type of reactions do you think we'll see from the Christian right about the woman who could be a heartbeat away from the office of President of The United States not being able to control her own daughter. Palin supports abstinence only sex education in schools but she can't even keep her own daughter under control. Maybe if she taught her something about a condom she wouldn't be in this position.”
[link to www.cbseyemobile.com]
ANOTHER Success Story for the "Abstinence-Based" Approach to Sex Education . . . ! ! !
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There THEY come
Just a walkin down the street.
Sayin the INVISIBLE Savior
Is a hard thing to beat.
Follower of Jesus is a doin
All the talkin for the TWO,
Until his imaginary friend JC
Escapes from the ZOO.
THEY castin out demons
All along the way.
Just by lookin at you
THEY know who is gay.
FoJ is PIMPING for JC
Every goddamn day.
Sayin the INVISIBLE Savior
Is the only fuckin way. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480891
9/2/2008 5:43 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
Reading List for Enemies of Jesus and Enemies of His Followers:
MAPLE, Eric. The Dark World of Witches. New York: A. S. Barnes and Company.
MAPLE, Eric. The Domain of Devils. New York: A. S. Barnes and Company.
SETH, Ronald. In the Name of the Devil. New York: Walker and Company.
Read and LEARN how to put the CURSE on the Follower of Jesus.
Follower of Jesus is a goddamn PIMP for the Nasty Little Nazarene, that BASTARD son of a Roman soldier and a Palestine whore. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471491
9/2/2008 5:53 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
Obama/Biden represent Pro Choice or murder.
McCain/Palin represent Pro Life or protection. Quoting: Follower of Jesus
The choices are PRO-choice, or ANTI-choice.
If the government gets to be ANTI-choice on THIS, what will stop them from taking away OTHER choices from YOUR ability to choose?
What if they decide your religion isn't what they want, will you STILL be ANTI-choice??
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495614
9/2/2008 6:19 AM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
OP, from my experiences during my time as a teacher, I know that you and your “Christian” perspective are woefully out of touch and out of step with the realities of life in post-industrial society.
Most people simply do NOT live in “Jesusville,” and would NOT wish to live in such a backward place. |
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nilmar
User ID: 272356
9/6/2008 4:20 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
If you are pro-life and pro-family then you MUST vote for McCain/Palin. Barack Obama was the ONLY senator of 100 who did NOT vote to protect the baby born from a botched abortion. Remember the Saddleback interview. He couldn't state when life began because it was "above his pay grade". When I heard that it simply confirmed his disgust for life. He also has a disgust for this country as I recall his removal of the American flag from his plane. his refusal to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, and referring to the U.S. as "this country" instead of "my country". Yes, all these things ARE IMPORTANT to me! |
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The Professor
User ID: 385883
9/6/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
I'm against abortion and pre-emptive wars. They both are murder and against what Yeshua taught. That is why I don't support either one. My conscious will only allow me to support Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin. Listen to what Chuck Baldwin says for a real Christian perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437959
You are one of those rare gems I call a real Christian. You vote in accordance with your belief; however, unfortunately many Christians will not. Many Christians will ignore the entire issue of abortion and vote based upon a candidate’s promises to improve the economy or for some other secular reason. While I can understand how the termination of life (euphemistically called abortion) could effect a person’s relationship with God (according to the Bible), I cannot, for the life of me, see what the national economy has to do with one’s ultimate salvation. Are Christians so shallow that they confine their religion within the walls of their churches?
You don’t have to answer. I’ve said what I had to say and I’m out of here. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 457129
9/6/2008 4:56 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
Here are a few thoughts for the Christian population that are about to make the most important vote of their lives (eternally too)
Obama/Biden represent Pro Choice or murder.
McCain/Palin represent Pro Life or protection.
Never in history has there been such a deciding vote.
You are either with God or against God here folks.
If you are a Christian you have no choice but to vote for McCain/Palin as they represent the moral ticket. It doesn't matter who wins or what the other issues are abortion is murder. I think that God has drawn the line in the sand and now you will choose what you represent not what you say but what you do is what matters here.
Again, you are either with God or against God but with this vote you won't be on the fence. God has created this situation for many reasons but one for sure is the very distinction of whether you are all talk and no action or you vote what is morally correct.
I personally don't care for McCain as he is the same politics over again like the last 8 years, but I cannot vote for Obama/Biden morally therefore I must being true to God first and vote for McCain on abortion alone. Not a hard choice really!
I know I will get all my favorite followers on this one bashing my doors in but it's not about you it's about making the Christians think about what they are really voting for by voting for Obama. Who wins doesn't really matter it's what each of us do that matters; individually.
Follower of Jesus Quoting: Follower of Jesus
Oh, horseshit!
McCain mad his reputation as a pilot dropping BOMBS ON A CIVILIAN POPULATION IN VIETNAM!
Or does Jesus condone that too???
moron! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478606
9/6/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
Obama/Biden represent Pro Choice or murder.
McCain/Palin represent Pro Life or protection.
The choices are PRO-choice, or ANTI-choice.
If the government gets to be ANTI-choice on THIS, what will stop them from taking away OTHER choices from YOUR ability to choose?
What if they decide your religion isn't what they want, will you STILL be ANTI-choice??
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Ditto. I don't believe I have the right to shove my pissant beliefs down someone elses throat in this country. I believe they have the choice and right to be wrong. |
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Shady
User ID: 491038
9/6/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: Obama/Biden VS McCain/Palin on Abortion | Quote |
so... Jesus or Obama? you aren't loyal to Jesus if you vote for Obama?
Correct. Quoting: Follower of Jesus
Wrong! Who would Jesus BOMB? The Iraqi women and children? If you are really pro life, then you are also against all wars, especially preemptive ones that are totally wrong. To say you are against abortion, but OK with the war, and all the Iraqi's and even our own troops being killed, is to be a hypocrite, like the Scribes and Pharisees! Don't you see it! Get the log out of your own eye before you pick at my tiny sliver! |
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SunSpot
User ID: 445334
9/6/2008 5:04 PM
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More women voted for Bush than Kerry and Bush actually got more pro abortion women. Quoting: PACNWguy
Are you really that fucking ignorant, or are you making stuff up again the way you usually do?
51% of women voted for Kerry versus 48% for Bush. Men went the other way 55-44. Unless it's a landslide, that's the way it goes: women as a demographic vote Democratic, men vote Republican.
As for abortion, those who thought abortion should always be legal went for Kerry 73-25, mostly legal 61-38. Those who thought abortion should be mostly illegal went for Bush 73-25, always 77-22.
The source for all this is CNN exit polling:
[link to www.cnn.com] |
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SunSpot
User ID: 445334
9/6/2008 5:07 PM
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Here are a few thoughts for the Christian population that are about to make the most important vote of their lives (eternally too)
Obama/Biden represent Pro Choice or murder.
McCain/Palin represent Pro Life or protection.
Never in history has there been such a deciding vote.
You are either with God or against God here folks. Quoting: Follower of Jesus
So where does it talk about abortion in the Bible again?
I can point to where it says to take care of the poor and not to commit murder (as in engaging in a pre-emptive and unnecessary war). And we know which party believes in those, so it seems to be that every good Christian should be voting Democratic this year. |
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