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LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!

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dsoul in louisiana
User ID: 495097
9/1/2008 11:14 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Barge and two small vessels loose in Industrial Canal
by Michelle Krupa, The Times-Picayune
Monday September 01, 2008, 9:52 AM

The Coast Guard confirmed Monday at 9:45 a.m. that crews are working to secure a barge and two small vessels that are loose in the Industrial Canal, according to New Orleans' Office of Emergency Preparedness.

The vessels are not causing serious damage to levees or other infrastructure, officials said.

One of the vessels, which broke away from an area near the Southern Scrapyard, was bumping into barriers that protect the Sewerage & Water Board discharge system on the west side of the canal, though officials said that system is "very strong."

One of the vessels is a decommissioned Navy ship, they said.

Coast Guard officials said they also are investigating a second report of a vessel sinking in Harahan, said Chief Warrant Ofc. Brandon Brewer, but the report hasn't been confirmed.

New Orleans City Council members Arnie Fielkow and Cynthia Willard-Lewis, who spent the night hunkered down on the second floor of City Hall, said that if emergency officials authorized it, they planned to head to the Lower 9th Ward to survey the situation.

Coast Guard officials were dispatched about 9 a.m. to check on reports of loose vessels, according to Paul Rainwater, a top official for Gov. Bobby Jindal who is embedded at City Hall.

Willard-Lewis, who represents the Lower 9th Ward, said she and representatives of several community groups met on a conference call two days ago with officials with the local levee board, U.S. Coast Guard, state Department of Transportation and Development, Army Corps of Engineers and others to discuss the removal of vessels from the channel before Gustav hit.

Willard-Lewis, who represents the area, said she was told yesterday that the Industrial Canal had been cleared. She was upset by the mention that barges could be loose in the canal.

"The Coast Guard told me all barges had been removed. It was very disturbing to me," she said. During Hurricane Katrina, a barge drifted through a toppled Industrial Canal levee and landed on top of a school bus in a scene that became an infamous image of the 2005 storm.

[link to www.nola.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490625
9/1/2008 11:14 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Loose barge is posing threat in industrial canal...

Question? Why were any barges or vessels allowed to be in the area when they were aware of the fact that one busted the levees in 2005?
 Quoting: dsoul in louisiana 495097

hmmm, guess when getting all the people out they forgot about the barges ;)
Sickscent
User ID: 363214
9/1/2008 11:14 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????
They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722


They have done some rebuilding. Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495113
9/1/2008 11:15 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I know someone in Biluxi who has shared that tornatos have taken part of her roof off and have uprooted trees. She also said that her house is flooding. I didnt expect Biluxi to have much damange.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 487016
9/1/2008 11:15 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Well it was said they only needed 8 feet of storm surge in a couple of places.

Of course if it breaks the standard GLP take will be that the Jews blew up the levees.
 Quoting: G. House

And the standard G. House comment will be sarcastic. So predictable.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495097
9/1/2008 11:16 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????
They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???


They have done some rebuilding. Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.
 Quoting: Sickscent


There is the Lower 9th Ward, that everyone is very familiar with from Katrina, then there is the Upper 9th Ward... it is the Upper 9th that is now threatened....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495109
9/1/2008 11:18 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

hmmm blackwater deployed.... hmmmmm

shitheads spooks paid post shills at glp

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G. House
User ID: 495066
9/1/2008 11:20 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Well it was said they only needed 8 feet of storm surge in a couple of places.

Of course if it breaks the standard GLP take will be that the Jews blew up the levees.

And the standard G. House comment will be sarcastic. So predictable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 487016


Well just today I saw a comment in a post that said the Jews blew up the levees during Katrina.

How am I being sarcastic when GLPers are so predictable?
Sickscent
User ID: 363214
9/1/2008 11:20 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????
They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???


They have done some rebuilding. Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.


There is the Lower 9th Ward, that everyone is very familiar with from Katrina, then there is the Upper 9th Ward... it is the Upper 9th that is now threatened....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495097


And the forecasters say that there is still a few hours left of the storm surge (and intense rainfall) increasing before it begins abating...
[link to www.thearchitectsoflight.com]

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495121
9/1/2008 11:23 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Sky News in the UK showing live coverage of water going over the top of canal in New Orleans....looks bad!
uk time 16.22 GMT.
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 400651
9/1/2008 11:24 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I know someone in Biluxi who has shared that tornatos have taken part of her roof off and have uprooted trees. She also said that her house is flooding. I didnt expect Biluxi to have much damange.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495113

Oh no...how scary for her.
dsoul in louisiana
User ID: 495097
9/1/2008 11:26 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Here's a link to Biloxi area news...

[link to www.wlox.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 444722
9/1/2008 11:27 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???They have done some rebuilding.  Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.There is the Lower 9th Ward, that everyone is very familiar with from Katrina, then there is the Upper 9th Ward...  it is the Upper 9th that is now threatened....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495097
WOW....THIS is very sad...I am watching CNBC... they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???
himself Subscriber
User ID: 495034
9/1/2008 11:31 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

this is the first occupied city in America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 490551

Wrong!
Minniapolis/St Paul is the first willingly occupied city in Amerika

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BREAKING POLICE ARE RAIDING MILTIPLE ACTIVISTS HOMES IN MINN. RNC CONVENTION PROTESTORS

and those MN rednecks are happy about the repressions
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495109
9/1/2008 11:31 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???They have done some rebuilding.  Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.There is the Lower 9th Ward, that everyone is very familiar with from Katrina, then there is the Upper 9th Ward...  it is the Upper 9th that is now threatened....WOW....THIS is very sad...I am watching CNBC... they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722



blackwater paid para miltary martial law contractors?
G. House
User ID: 495066
9/1/2008 11:33 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

OMG   IT'S 9TH WARD AREA ....WHAT is there ????They did not rebuild there yet ??? Did they???They have done some rebuilding.  Enough that if it got flooded again it will be a serious setback and a lot of money lost.There is the Lower 9th Ward, that everyone is very familiar with from Katrina, then there is the Upper 9th Ward...  it is the Upper 9th that is now threatened....WOW....THIS is very sad...I am watching CNBC... they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495109


It isn't!

Those people are very brave.
Budman
User ID: 424127
9/1/2008 11:34 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444722


Safe? For the same reason I saw some guy submerging his lawn/patio furniture in his swimming pool.
G. House
User ID: 495066
9/1/2008 11:38 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???


Safe? For the same reason I saw some guy submerging his lawn/patio furniture in his swimming pool.
 Quoting: Budman


That's not really a good thing to do by the way.

They are NOT safe because there is a lot of movement in that water and a lot of debri moving in that water.

Easy to get trapped, crushed, whatever. If the levee happened to let go right when they were by the breach they could get swept away and pounded into immovable objects.

Not safe by any means.
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 400651
9/1/2008 11:41 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

they mentioned divers are inspecting levee right now???How is that possible or safe for the divers???


Safe? For the same reason I saw some guy submerging his lawn/patio furniture in his swimming pool.


That's not really a good thing to do by the way.

They are NOT safe because there is a lot of movement in that water and a lot of debri moving in that water.

Easy to get trapped, crushed, whatever. If the levee happened to let go right when they were by the breach they could get swept awy and pounded into immovable objects.

Not safe by any means.
 Quoting: G. House

Not safe at all.
What if they see serious cracks/faults?
Nothing can be done, can it?

I would rather those men NOT be underwater...just too dangerous.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317540
9/1/2008 11:46 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

ruh roh raggy!

Lower 9th ward levee has water spurting from bottom of levee.....sez cnn...
getaclue
User ID: 464271
9/1/2008 11:48 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

9th ward is flooding now, levee is giving way.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 492101
9/1/2008 11:49 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Living below sea-level IS INSANE

Sympathy for people who willingly live below sea level is wasted on idiots.

Past time for them to give up draining that lake they live in and moving back in.

Past time for the rest of US to subsidize idiots moving back into a lake below sea level.
 Quoting: himself


I have said the same thing on another thread. I agree completely.

Although I do have great compassion for anyone in danger, I cannot fathom why people choose to live in flood plains. And I have no respect for developers who create cities and residential areas in flood plains.

The blame really goes on the developers. Leaders, in any capacity, have a responsibility to put people before $$.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495098
9/1/2008 11:51 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Living below sea-level IS INSANE

Sympathy for people who willingly live below sea level is wasted on idiots.

Past time for them to give up draining that lake they live in and moving back in.

Past time for the rest of US to subsidize idiots moving back into a lake below sea level.
 Quoting: himself

Yea, it's like digging a hole next to a river and building your house there.
Pretty stupid isn't it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 494492
9/1/2008 11:53 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Loose barge is posing threat in industrial canal...

Question? Why were any barges or vessels allowed to be in the area when they were aware of the fact that one busted the levees in 2005?

On Friday they reported doing a fly over of the city and they THEN reported barges not properly secured.

why are the barges EVEN THERE?????????
 Quoting: Beingsouthern
because they want them there. it was a good excuse to explain the blown up levies in 05. do you really think that after the days of evac. a million people, they failed to notice barges still there? also, do you really think they couldn't have fixed those levies in the past 3 yrs. that are now in danger? if they had wanted to...
himself Subscriber
User ID: 495034
9/1/2008 11:54 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

9th ward is flooding now, levee is giving way.
 Quoting: getaclue 464271

Normal
Expected

When you live in a lake below sea level you should expect that lake to be flooded during storms
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493078
9/1/2008 11:54 AM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

stupthrd overcap
himself Subscriber
User ID: 495034
9/1/2008 12:21 PM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

9th ward is flooding now, levee is giving way.

Normal
Expected

When you live in a lake below sea level you should expect that lake to be flooded during storms
 Quoting: himself
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495148
9/1/2008 12:26 PM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495222
9/1/2008 2:51 PM
Re: LEVEE IS GOING TO FAIL!!!! Over topping now in industrial canal already!!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Hmmm, given the events of Katrina your RAVING PARANOIA is somewhat understandable,,, but, it's still raving paranoia!! bump
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