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read this excellent essay...by someone who seems to know politics quite well....

What Palin Really Means

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Monday, September 1, 2008
What Sarah Palin Means Really
This is a commentary which is difficult to write for the information contained in it, the addressing of attacks on Sarah Palin and assessing exactly why John McCain put her on the ticket and what Sarah Palin will mean to Americans.



Currently, there is the most disgusting of Obama campaign attacks filled with foul language, misinformation on Gov. Palin concerning her child, Trig, and her daughter who is now pregnant at age 17.
The Obama camp has run with a lie that Sarah Palin faked her own pregnancy, which would involve all the doctors, nurses, government agencies, to cover up her daughter's pregnancy.

The reality is her daughter Bristol is 5 months pregnant still, is going to keep the baby and marry the father.
The further reality is Trig, the downs syndrome son of Sarah Palin, is her child.

All of that means simply that the Obama people were exposed for the absolute pariahs they are in using a child and a family as weapons in a political campaign.

Why this is important to understand is not about Sarah Palin, but it reveals as Rush Limbaugh has informed people for years in the liberal fringe are kooks and they will run with anything, make up anything and fabricate anything.
How that is important is John McCain knows all of this. I realize it is fashionable to always label people from Bush to Obama as idiots, but these people have skills and all have staffs of the best cut throats in the business looking at every angle.
The Clintons were masters of this with never making a move without knowing how the public was going to react.

Ask anyone from the right or left in media who has had dealings with the Obama people and they can tell you they are junkyard dogs frothing at the mouth. You don't have to throw them a bone. They will come through the fence after you like rabid beasts.
This time as every time they grabbed what was before them and it just happened to be for the entire American people to witness was them growling, shaking and tearing into an infant child with downs syndrome and his mother.
The world got a first person view of the Obama Biden campaign to be horrified over.

I invested a great deal of effort browbeating John McCain, because he is a socialist. He though in the past month has run a brilliant campaign knocking Barack Obama off his game with 3 commercials.
His choice of Gov. Palin was strategic brilliance and with work has won him the election.

In this, John McCain and his staff knew that Bristol was pregnant and in that they fully discussed what the fringe Obama people would do and knew they were going to bite on something which would expose them for who they are and at the same time they would shoot their wad on nothing while John McCain was not going to be in Minneapolis, but is going to run the Republican Convention as a fund raiser for a hurricane which God seems to have unplugged for the GOP to a category 2.
Another hurricane is brewing for Florida, but once again John McCain is leading there in a brilliant strategy and messiah Obama is off licking ice cream somewhere stuttering in interviews again.

I do not know the source of John McCain's strategic maneuvers, but suspect his wife, Cindy, is a major player in this as in this period, the off message campaign has been transformed into a fine tuned team that is running circles around Barack Obama.
Perhaps, people should have suspected that John McCain's camp was playing possum when they have been backing Barack Obama up the entire summer in Obama not going to Iraq when McCain invited him and in Obama refusing to debate McCain in town meetings.

With Sarah Palin, John McCain added a Triple Crown winner in this horse race and he has utilized her with maximum effect. She has now been introduced to the world. John Kerry is fuming that "Rush Limbaugh made McCain pick her". Women are thrilled over the pick and joining the election process the way they were not for Mrs. Clinton and the entire story is one of motherhood in a mother being attacked with her children by Barack Obama.

The McCain camp tallied this and could not have been more successful in their phase 2, because a smug George Stephanopolous on ABC was stating last Friday that the Obama camp was going to take it easy and "allow the media to beat up on Sarah Palin".
Guess you were wrong on that George as the Obama people went out and beat up a woman and a handicapped child while you sat around making the debate about "experience" which John McCain was most delighted in as that in turn ILLUMINATES the subject back onto Barack Obama being not experienced.

Axelrod, Plouffe, Obama, Biden, Daschle and Brzezinski entered this game with a 40 point lead and in the first minute John McCain scored 46 points and is driving for another score.

This is what Sarah Palin means in now every attack leveled against her, every woman in America is going to be ticked off. Every Christian is going to be hurt. Every Conservative is going to get fired up. Every westerner is going to dig in with true grit and are not going to take it.
Southerners do not like males who beat on women. The entire south has now been put into a position which they by instinct will defend Sarah Palin.
In knowing my friends in the Midwest, they will if they see any male abusing a wife or child, will walk over and thump the jerk hard.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden got away with terrorizing Lawrence Sinclair, because he is a white guy but they are now on record for abusing a mother and her children. That is not going to go away and the more their people get frustrated the more they dig the hole deeper to hell.

There are more things coming in this which the McCain campaign will be ready for, but I will not be the messenger who assists Barack Obama and his ilk to not walk into it.

In that assessment, Sarah Palin if Americans will rally to support her, she will mean the entire Reagan Country is now Palin Country. John McCain will not have to spend any resources there at all. Gov. Palin will simply make her tour to pass inspection to crowds adoring one of their own recalling Teddy Roosevelt and the McCain campaign will put everything in the central United States into their column and these people will not ever vote for Obama /Biden "in them easterners".

In the south, Gov. Palin is going to open a 5 point to 10 point lead securing the solid south.

Florida will now go to McCain easily as the elderly women there will vote for 72 year old McCain and the mother who was attacked like they were.

The Midwest will trend toward McCain now further. Pennsylvania, Virginia and New Jersey which were going for Barack Obama and are now in play trending for McCain Palin. Trends indicate as Obama could not win any large states like Pennsylvania that Gov. Palin will poke major holes in the Midwest and East bringing what were "his"states into her states.
If John McCain can open a 10 point lead, peak on election day, there is high probability he will reach a landslide even taking New York as PUMA Hillary women will fully understand that if they pitch Obama to the sidelines then Hillary will have her chance in 2012.
The biggest faction in this which the GOP will work on as proven by John McCain and Rush Limbaugh courting the PUMA voters are the Hillary people who are already trending at 30% to vote for John McCain. If they start understanding that voting for Sarah Palin is a vote for their Hillary later, then that number will reach 60%.

One of my favorite Americans in Benjamin Franklin assisted America greatly while in France by not bothering to talk to the French men leading that nation. Franklin instead invested his time talking with the wives and children of the ministers.
He held court daily much to the consternation of John Adams who was jealous of him as women kissed his forehead and children his cheek.
The point in it though was Franklin knew at night in pillow talk it was the wives who were subtly steering their husbands and lovers to a pro American stance.

No one is going to mention that, but that process has already started to the delight of many surprised GOP bloggers in their quiet wives are waiting for their husbands to bring up the subject and then pleasing their husbands by saying they should contribute more to the McCain Palin ticket.
This conversation is brewing now in liberal circles too. Women will decide in mass that they perhaps should stick together. They then will go home and start talking to the men in their lives.

Never forget that Cindy McCain came home and informed John McCain they were adopting an Asian child. John McCain knows who runs this America and Democrats know it too whether it is a lamp off of Bill Clinton's head or the collective sigh of the wife of a television anchor.
Liberal males if you notice on television are already showing that sheepish grin on their faces as they know what is awaiting at home if they saying something about "that woman Sarah Palin".

This did not happen with Geraldine Ferraro as she was never an inspiring issue for women attached to Walter Mondale who scared the heck out of women in telling them he was going to tax them to death. Hillary Clinton was never that factor as she was a dividing character and no one ever doubted she was tough enough to kick anyone's rear end, so no one was moved to rally around her.
Sarah Palin is just as tough as Hillary Clinton, but she has the ability to be tough and yet instill that chivalrous feeling that people will stand up for her. That is a rare quality that few leaders have have. Ronald Reagan had it and now these Reaganites have him in a dress and they are going to the wall for her and just like the Reagan Democrats did for him, Sarah Palin will bring them home too.

That is the election, but what does Sarah Palin mean after the election.

For a long term understanding, America is looking for the most part at the next 12 to 16 years of their national leader in her. She has the grit to be an American Margaret Thatcher setting a Conservative trend which Reagan started.
For the reality, John McCain for all of his liberal nonsense when the push came to shove, he went Conservative. That trend will track for the biggest reason on the Supreme Court where Stevens and Ginsberg will be gone.
This means not a 5 - 4 vote with Anthony Kennedy tilting left and right, but a real 7 - 2 voting block for upcoming gun rights, pro life and other Conservative issues as even if Scalia or Thomas are off the court, there will be Conservative replacements.
It is almost a given that the next 3 appointments will be Conservative justices who are women.

On the energy front, Gov. Palin is going to produce oil and gas with McCain already on record in backing nuclear electricity as France has.
This means the oil terrorism money is cut and America apparently after someone from the IDF to the US Air Force under George Bush incinerates Iran will start backing out of the Middle East as George Bush noted was coming US policy.
Terror attacks should then be a thing of the past, so America will not be involved in a 100 years war.
As the current trend is building up Poland and the eastern European states with a central European union on the rise, America will remove itself from Russia, and it is a given Gov. Palin is not going to be sending in US troops anywhere or getting involved in a Eurasian war.

With the McCain and Palin children both combat soldiers, there is going to be a reassessment, restationing and revamping of the entire military structure.
If you know the character of John McCain and what Alaskans are about, there is going to be a hit hard, no exposure to US forces and a base structure like the Reagan years. The people now on the GOP top list learned how unfun war is and will instead use the previous successful methods like Jefferson using sweep operations in Africa to John Kennedy using special forces in Vietnam.
Two Democrats, but that is why Reagan never started a fight with troops as Lebanon showed him. Fight with economic means and the public never has to deal with body bags.

The economy should definitely stabilize with increased US funds remaining inside America which will build to a second term election for John McCain.
Food and production America will have as Gov. Palin understands managing resources and markets as Alaska is such a market.

The greatest strategic factor in this though goes back to oil and Gov. Palin in the key group which is building around her who will become household names in the coming years with her.
There was a definite coup which occurred in removing Conservative voting leaders in Congress. George Allen should have been President, except for the strangeness of that campaign and all these bisexual rumors of Craig and Lott which weeded them out.

Gov. Palin though is now in a core group led by John Thune of South Dakota. I realize it sounds strange with Marxist Daschle and Tim Johnson that that a small state is at the helm of America, but Thune is thee coming leader in the Senate and a Conservative like Gov. Palin.
Currently Thune is pushing hard in an east coast drilling bill with Democratic support. Of course this will expose the Obama people to no drilling, but it highlights the trend in the Senate that the old corruption is being moved aside and a new era is forming.
This is key, because as the Gov. Palin movement is joined by others, then Democrats like Tim Johnson are likely to be replaced this election by Joel Dykstra of that state and this person is hard core Conservative to join Thune.
No one has mentioned this in the Congressional elections, but the wave of Gov. Palin has the opportunity to sweep enough Conservatives in behind her that real reforms in empowering Americans will take place, instead of the people who betrayed voters the last time a purge was issued.

It seems almost odd that America's future is now held in the balance by an Alaskan woman, but it is a future of vast consequence which she is bringing in her wake.

Americans must be reminded that she can not do this alone as she is only one person. It will take support and not falling into the CFR trap of tearing our best hopes apart so they can once again gain control.
Conservatives made a mistake in allowing George Bush too much rein and reign. They allowed him to spend money buying votes so the Democrats would not have the money to bribe people with.
On foreign policy, it was not so much the policy which was wrong, but in not forcing George Bush to explain the reality that Iraq was a slaughter pit for terrorists so they would not come here and it is now Afghanistan which will be the slaughter pit to keep terrorists from America. Americans must be informed to make the decision if they want to fight terrorists in America or abroad and then formulate an economic policy where America is not on the terrorists grounds so the fight does not begin in the first place.
Conservatives should have forced the legal action in exposing that Saddam Hussein bribed the Clintons and most of Europe, instead of allowing the hits the Conservatives took covering all of what George Bush was doing.

Conservatives trusted George Bush too much in his being a social democrat. They only spanked him once on Harriet Miers to humble him. Now though they have left Mr. Bush and are behind Sarah Palin.
This time though with John McCain the Conservatives will not give free reign and will demand policy and honesty good for the majority of Americans.

Gov. Palin exhibits those qualities to keep a rein on John McCain while Cindy McCain works on the home front.

In conclusion what Sarah Palin means was summed up by the inability of Barack Obama and Joe Biden to deal with her, but most importantly in this is another woman in this process of Hillary Clinton is laughing over this, because she now has her 2012 run because with Sarah Palin as Vice President, the Democrats will have proven for them a woman can do the job and they will have to nominate a woman to head the ticket in 4 years which is Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Sarah Palin means Chelsea, Hillary and Bill are all going to be joining James Dobson in pulling that lever in November for Sarah Palin.
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more debunking here:

[link to www.audacityofhypocrisy.com]

That pic is from 2001 when she was pregnant with her youngest daughter Piper, who is now 7 years old now.
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13 April 2008.

nice try
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I may be a democrat but tonight I'm praying for that republican family - praying that they get through this, that it doesn't cost them their daughter's life, and praying that they have the wisdom and decency to be kind and supportive to their own child as she faces being pregnant, and everything else that's been dumped on her in the past few days.
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Oh I see, you're going to pray for this republican family, even though you are a democrat. How gracious of you. Are you for fucking real? Are you trying to say that people are democrats who are carrying this story? Hardly. Obama himself already responded to the flurry of posts on blogs, the ravenous press, as if they are democrat. First of all the story was that Sarah didnt have child, but some were pitying child without Sarah. Now we here about a child with child. And forget about child with two children, or child without Sarah. Now you chime in scolding democrats...

Fuck you!
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HEY AC 488414:

I DIDN'T CHIME IN. I STARTED THIS POST. CHECK THE USER ID.

AND STOP MISREADING YOUR OWN AGENDA INTO EVERYTHING. YES. I FEEL SORRY FOR THAT GIRL AND HER FAMILY. THEY GOT A RAW DEAL FROM THE PRESS AND IF THE DNC IS BEHIND THIS, THEY SHOULD BE MUZZLED MUCH MORE TIGHTLY.

LASTLY, STOP HIDING BEHING AN AC POSTING IF YOU WANT TO TELL ANYONE TO "FUCK OFF". YOU NEVER KNOW, THOUGH, WHEN SOMEONE MIGHT JUST SHOVE THOSE WORDS BACK DOWN YOUR THROAT, DO YOU? BEING THE JERK YOU'VE BEEN, THE COWARDICE OF AN AC POSTING TO INSULT OTHERS WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULDN'T IT? GROW A PAIR OF BALLS, IDIOT, AND ACT LIKE YOU'RE A MAN. IF YOU HAVE OPINIONS, BELIEFS, ETC., HAVE THE COURAGE TO OWN THEM!
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HEY AC 488414:

I DIDN'T CHIME IN. I STARTED THIS POST. CHECK THE USER ID.

AND STOP MISREADING YOUR OWN AGENDA INTO EVERYTHING. YES. I FEEL SORRY FOR THAT GIRL AND HER FAMILY. THEY GOT A RAW DEAL FROM THE PRESS AND IF THE DNC IS BEHIND THIS, THEY SHOULD BE MUZZLED MUCH MORE TIGHTLY.

LASTLY, STOP HIDING BEHING AN AC POSTING IF YOU WANT TO TELL ANYONE TO "FUCK OFF". YOU NEVER KNOW, THOUGH, WHEN SOMEONE MIGHT JUST SHOVE THOSE WORDS BACK DOWN YOUR THROAT, DO YOU? BEING THE JERK YOU'VE BEEN, THE COWARDICE OF AN AC POSTING TO INSULT OTHERS WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULDN'T IT? GROW A PAIR OF BALLS, IDIOT, AND ACT LIKE YOU'RE A MAN. IF YOU HAVE OPINIONS, BELIEFS, ETC., HAVE THE COURAGE TO OWN THEM!
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You are Dem like Joe Liberman is one........

If your a doctor and dont see how a pregnant mother that boards a flight after 36 weeks without telling the airline let alone reboarding a flight after her water breaks and flies across the country once again not notifying the airline.; Then lands in a town with a neonatal unit only to get in a car and drive 45 minutes to a medical facility with no neonatal unit to have her special needs baby delivered by a General Practitioner is someone with an ounce of care & concern for their own child; let alone leaving this child after 72 hours to return to a government job and to top it off throwing the whole family into the most intense public attention on the planet is not responsible for this all by herself only serves to make you an apologist for a complete wackjob.

Lay off the caps btw..........
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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Republicans are crooked and play dirty I should know I am one of tnem! That said Dems know that they need to crush this candidate in any matter possible because I guarantee you the Repubs have lots of secret weapons that will be pulled out and used fairly or unfairly they will back door them so they arnt blamed!
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read this excellent essay...by someone who seems to know politics quite well....

What Palin Really Means

[link to lamecherry.blogspot.com]



Monday, September 1, 2008
What Sarah Palin Means Really
This is a commentary which is difficult to write for the information contained in it, the addressing of attacks on Sarah Palin and assessing exactly why John McCain put her on the ticket and what Sarah Palin will mean to Americans.



Currently, there is the most disgusting of Obama campaign attacks filled with foul language, misinformation on Gov. Palin concerning her child, Trig, and her daughter who is now pregnant at age 17.
The Obama camp has run with a lie that Sarah Palin faked her own pregnancy, which would involve all the doctors, nurses, government agencies, to cover up her daughter's pregnancy.

The reality is her daughter Bristol is 5 months pregnant still, is going to keep the baby and marry the father.
The further reality is Trig, the downs syndrome son of Sarah Palin, is her child.

All of that means simply that the Obama people were exposed for the absolute pariahs they are in using a child and a family as weapons in a political campaign.

Why this is important to understand is not about Sarah Palin, but it reveals as Rush Limbaugh has informed people for years in the liberal fringe are kooks and they will run with anything, make up anything and fabricate anything.
How that is important is John McCain knows all of this. I realize it is fashionable to always label people from Bush to Obama as idiots, but these people have skills and all have staffs of the best cut throats in the business looking at every angle.
The Clintons were masters of this with never making a move without knowing how the public was going to react.

Ask anyone from the right or left in media who has had dealings with the Obama people and they can tell you they are junkyard dogs frothing at the mouth. You don't have to throw them a bone. They will come through the fence after you like rabid beasts.
This time as every time they grabbed what was before them and it just happened to be for the entire American people to witness was them growling, shaking and tearing into an infant child with downs syndrome and his mother.
The world got a first person view of the Obama Biden campaign to be horrified over.

I invested a great deal of effort browbeating John McCain, because he is a socialist. He though in the past month has run a brilliant campaign knocking Barack Obama off his game with 3 commercials.
His choice of Gov. Palin was strategic brilliance and with work has won him the election.

In this, John McCain and his staff knew that Bristol was pregnant and in that they fully discussed what the fringe Obama people would do and knew they were going to bite on something which would expose them for who they are and at the same time they would shoot their wad on nothing while John McCain was not going to be in Minneapolis, but is going to run the Republican Convention as a fund raiser for a hurricane which God seems to have unplugged for the GOP to a category 2.
Another hurricane is brewing for Florida, but once again John McCain is leading there in a brilliant strategy and messiah Obama is off licking ice cream somewhere stuttering in interviews again.

I do not know the source of John McCain's strategic maneuvers, but suspect his wife, Cindy, is a major player in this as in this period, the off message campaign has been transformed into a fine tuned team that is running circles around Barack Obama.
Perhaps, people should have suspected that John McCain's camp was playing possum when they have been backing Barack Obama up the entire summer in Obama not going to Iraq when McCain invited him and in Obama refusing to debate McCain in town meetings.

With Sarah Palin, John McCain added a Triple Crown winner in this horse race and he has utilized her with maximum effect. She has now been introduced to the world. John Kerry is fuming that "Rush Limbaugh made McCain pick her". Women are thrilled over the pick and joining the election process the way they were not for Mrs. Clinton and the entire story is one of motherhood in a mother being attacked with her children by Barack Obama.

The McCain camp tallied this and could not have been more successful in their phase 2, because a smug George Stephanopolous on ABC was stating last Friday that the Obama camp was going to take it easy and "allow the media to beat up on Sarah Palin".
Guess you were wrong on that George as the Obama people went out and beat up a woman and a handicapped child while you sat around making the debate about "experience" which John McCain was most delighted in as that in turn ILLUMINATES the subject back onto Barack Obama being not experienced.

Axelrod, Plouffe, Obama, Biden, Daschle and Brzezinski entered this game with a 40 point lead and in the first minute John McCain scored 46 points and is driving for another score.

This is what Sarah Palin means in now every attack leveled against her, every woman in America is going to be ticked off. Every Christian is going to be hurt. Every Conservative is going to get fired up. Every westerner is going to dig in with true grit and are not going to take it.
Southerners do not like males who beat on women. The entire south has now been put into a position which they by instinct will defend Sarah Palin.
In knowing my friends in the Midwest, they will if they see any male abusing a wife or child, will walk over and thump the jerk hard.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden got away with terrorizing Lawrence Sinclair, because he is a white guy but they are now on record for abusing a mother and her children. That is not going to go away and the more their people get frustrated the more they dig the hole deeper to hell.

There are more things coming in this which the McCain campaign will be ready for, but I will not be the messenger who assists Barack Obama and his ilk to not walk into it.

In that assessment, Sarah Palin if Americans will rally to support her, she will mean the entire Reagan Country is now Palin Country. John McCain will not have to spend any resources there at all. Gov. Palin will simply make her tour to pass inspection to crowds adoring one of their own recalling Teddy Roosevelt and the McCain campaign will put everything in the central United States into their column and these people will not ever vote for Obama /Biden "in them easterners".

In the south, Gov. Palin is going to open a 5 point to 10 point lead securing the solid south.

Florida will now go to McCain easily as the elderly women there will vote for 72 year old McCain and the mother who was attacked like they were.

The Midwest will trend toward McCain now further. Pennsylvania, Virginia and New Jersey which were going for Barack Obama and are now in play trending for McCain Palin. Trends indicate as Obama could not win any large states like Pennsylvania that Gov. Palin will poke major holes in the Midwest and East bringing what were "his"states into her states.
If John McCain can open a 10 point lead, peak on election day, there is high probability he will reach a landslide even taking New York as PUMA Hillary women will fully understand that if they pitch Obama to the sidelines then Hillary will have her chance in 2012.
The biggest faction in this which the GOP will work on as proven by John McCain and Rush Limbaugh courting the PUMA voters are the Hillary people who are already trending at 30% to vote for John McCain. If they start understanding that voting for Sarah Palin is a vote for their Hillary later, then that number will reach 60%.

One of my favorite Americans in Benjamin Franklin assisted America greatly while in France by not bothering to talk to the French men leading that nation. Franklin instead invested his time talking with the wives and children of the ministers.
He held court daily much to the consternation of John Adams who was jealous of him as women kissed his forehead and children his cheek.
The point in it though was Franklin knew at night in pillow talk it was the wives who were subtly steering their husbands and lovers to a pro American stance.

No one is going to mention that, but that process has already started to the delight of many surprised GOP bloggers in their quiet wives are waiting for their husbands to bring up the subject and then pleasing their husbands by saying they should contribute more to the McCain Palin ticket.
This conversation is brewing now in liberal circles too. Women will decide in mass that they perhaps should stick together. They then will go home and start talking to the men in their lives.

Never forget that Cindy McCain came home and informed John McCain they were adopting an Asian child. John McCain knows who runs this America and Democrats know it too whether it is a lamp off of Bill Clinton's head or the collective sigh of the wife of a television anchor.
Liberal males if you notice on television are already showing that sheepish grin on their faces as they know what is awaiting at home if they saying something about "that woman Sarah Palin".

This did not happen with Geraldine Ferraro as she was never an inspiring issue for women attached to Walter Mondale who scared the heck out of women in telling them he was going to tax them to death. Hillary Clinton was never that factor as she was a dividing character and no one ever doubted she was tough enough to kick anyone's rear end, so no one was moved to rally around her.
Sarah Palin is just as tough as Hillary Clinton, but she has the ability to be tough and yet instill that chivalrous feeling that people will stand up for her. That is a rare quality that few leaders have have. Ronald Reagan had it and now these Reaganites have him in a dress and they are going to the wall for her and just like the Reagan Democrats did for him, Sarah Palin will bring them home too.

That is the election, but what does Sarah Palin mean after the election.

For a long term understanding, America is looking for the most part at the next 12 to 16 years of their national leader in her. She has the grit to be an American Margaret Thatcher setting a Conservative trend which Reagan started.
For the reality, John McCain for all of his liberal nonsense when the push came to shove, he went Conservative. That trend will track for the biggest reason on the Supreme Court where Stevens and Ginsberg will be gone.
This means not a 5 - 4 vote with Anthony Kennedy tilting left and right, but a real 7 - 2 voting block for upcoming gun rights, pro life and other Conservative issues as even if Scalia or Thomas are off the court, there will be Conservative replacements.
It is almost a given that the next 3 appointments will be Conservative justices who are women.

On the energy front, Gov. Palin is going to produce oil and gas with McCain already on record in backing nuclear electricity as France has.
This means the oil terrorism money is cut and America apparently after someone from the IDF to the US Air Force under George Bush incinerates Iran will start backing out of the Middle East as George Bush noted was coming US policy.
Terror attacks should then be a thing of the past, so America will not be involved in a 100 years war.
As the current trend is building up Poland and the eastern European states with a central European union on the rise, America will remove itself from Russia, and it is a given Gov. Palin is not going to be sending in US troops anywhere or getting involved in a Eurasian war.

With the McCain and Palin children both combat soldiers, there is going to be a reassessment, restationing and revamping of the entire military structure.
If you know the character of John McCain and what Alaskans are about, there is going to be a hit hard, no exposure to US forces and a base structure like the Reagan years. The people now on the GOP top list learned how unfun war is and will instead use the previous successful methods like Jefferson using sweep operations in Africa to John Kennedy using special forces in Vietnam.
Two Democrats, but that is why Reagan never started a fight with troops as Lebanon showed him. Fight with economic means and the public never has to deal with body bags.

The economy should definitely stabilize with increased US funds remaining inside America which will build to a second term election for John McCain.
Food and production America will have as Gov. Palin understands managing resources and markets as Alaska is such a market.

The greatest strategic factor in this though goes back to oil and Gov. Palin in the key group which is building around her who will become household names in the coming years with her.
There was a definite coup which occurred in removing Conservative voting leaders in Congress. George Allen should have been President, except for the strangeness of that campaign and all these bisexual rumors of Craig and Lott which weeded them out.

Gov. Palin though is now in a core group led by John Thune of South Dakota. I realize it sounds strange with Marxist Daschle and Tim Johnson that that a small state is at the helm of America, but Thune is thee coming leader in the Senate and a Conservative like Gov. Palin.
Currently Thune is pushing hard in an east coast drilling bill with Democratic support. Of course this will expose the Obama people to no drilling, but it highlights the trend in the Senate that the old corruption is being moved aside and a new era is forming.
This is key, because as the Gov. Palin movement is joined by others, then Democrats like Tim Johnson are likely to be replaced this election by Joel Dykstra of that state and this person is hard core Conservative to join Thune.
No one has mentioned this in the Congressional elections, but the wave of Gov. Palin has the opportunity to sweep enough Conservatives in behind her that real reforms in empowering Americans will take place, instead of the people who betrayed voters the last time a purge was issued.

It seems almost odd that America's future is now held in the balance by an Alaskan woman, but it is a future of vast consequence which she is bringing in her wake.

Americans must be reminded that she can not do this alone as she is only one person. It will take support and not falling into the CFR trap of tearing our best hopes apart so they can once again gain control.
Conservatives made a mistake in allowing George Bush too much rein and reign. They allowed him to spend money buying votes so the Democrats would not have the money to bribe people with.
On foreign policy, it was not so much the policy which was wrong, but in not forcing George Bush to explain the reality that Iraq was a slaughter pit for terrorists so they would not come here and it is now Afghanistan which will be the slaughter pit to keep terrorists from America. Americans must be informed to make the decision if they want to fight terrorists in America or abroad and then formulate an economic policy where America is not on the terrorists grounds so the fight does not begin in the first place.
Conservatives should have forced the legal action in exposing that Saddam Hussein bribed the Clintons and most of Europe, instead of allowing the hits the Conservatives took covering all of what George Bush was doing.

Conservatives trusted George Bush too much in his being a social democrat. They only spanked him once on Harriet Miers to humble him. Now though they have left Mr. Bush and are behind Sarah Palin.
This time though with John McCain the Conservatives will not give free reign and will demand policy and honesty good for the majority of Americans.

Gov. Palin exhibits those qualities to keep a rein on John McCain while Cindy McCain works on the home front.

In conclusion what Sarah Palin means was summed up by the inability of Barack Obama and Joe Biden to deal with her, but most importantly in this is another woman in this process of Hillary Clinton is laughing over this, because she now has her 2012 run because with Sarah Palin as Vice President, the Democrats will have proven for them a woman can do the job and they will have to nominate a woman to head the ticket in 4 years which is Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Sarah Palin means Chelsea, Hillary and Bill are all going to be joining James Dobson in pulling that lever in November for Sarah Palin.
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God bless the Palin family and God bless America. hf
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If Palin wanted to knock down the rumors of the fake pregnancy, why didn't she just release doctor records, birth certificate, etc?

Why did she drag her 17 year-old daughter out like this and put her under the spotlight? Because there's something else going on here, folks! Don't be distracted! Sarah Palin was not pregnant in 2008. She did not give birth to Trig.
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And the hits keep comin'!

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Look if the Mayberry Machiavellians did not what this she could have said no.

At the end of the day this will ruin McCain and could cost the GOP another Governorship.

Let alone if the welfare of these children is such a concern with them they would not seek the light.

Think of it this way most of the folks here are AC's and there is a good reason for it.

Then again no one in their right mind runs for this office in this day and age.

So stop you crying and belly aching for the Palin's they would no sooner throw you under the bus then they have their own family.
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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This matters because she has proven:
She cant manage a city
She cant successfully run a state
She uses the poitical office for her own personal agendas
She cant manage /run/ control/parent her own children
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Yes, and besides, it's okay for the Repubs to drag their pregnant and Down's Syndrome kids out as props in a political campaign... but just you "liberal bloggers" try so much as raising the subject!!

Yeah, I don't think she have not run for VP based on Bristol, but they could have made a statement early on, away from the cameras, that would have said that they proud of her and to respect her privacy. The only reason I can figure not to do that is that they thought they might be able to hide it until after the elections. Now it has the tone of "scandal" and "this just revealed..." Just more poor decision making which in this case adversely affects a 17 year old.

And since her mother doesn't believe in sex education at all - ever - or abortion even if Bristol was raped (and she said so, publicly) then I'm afraid that this is big news.
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Haven't they ever heard about ABORTION in ALASKA?
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Look if the Mayberry Machiavellians did not what this she could have said no.

At the end of the day this will ruin McCain and could cost the GOP another Governorship.

Let alone if the welfare of these children is such a concern with them they would not seek the light.

Think of it this way most of the folks here are AC's and there is a good reason for it.

Then again no one in their right mind runs for this office in this day and age.

So stop you crying and belly aching for the Palin's they would no sooner throw you under the bus then they have their own family.
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Obama knows that the damage already has been done. Why focus on something that has already blown open a wide gaping hole in the Repub? Direct hit to the Repubs his work here is done............
Conservatives dont have children that have babies at 17, this has hurt the conservatives and Liberal McCain bad bad bad!
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Is that how journalism is done, now? Is that how "we" fight back the most totalitarian government our republic has ever
known??
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by libelling minors we defend FREEEEDDDOOOMMM

get real dude
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Is that how journalism is done, now? Is that how "we" fight back the most totalitarian government our republic has ever
known?? by libelling minors we defend FREEEEDDDOOOMMM

get real dude
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I have never said one bad word about Bristol.

What's your argument now?

Just asking.
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if you are going to step into the public eye, you may as well prepare to be looked at. and for your sake, you better be an eyefull.
time is a conspiracy, devouring my life with sharp like incisors...
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The most interesting thing is that this is supposedly in response to some really easy to refute rumors. Instead of rolling out the lady WHO SAT NEXT TO PALIN when she flew home IN LABOR, they popped off with:
"Palin's daughter couldn't be the mother of 'lil Trig - she's knocked up! But don't worry - now that I'm running for VP there will be a shotgun wedding."

McCain has already stuck his strategists trying to sell Alaska's proximity to Russia as foreign policy experience; now they've got to polish up this turkey?

This little lady looks to be the gift that keeps on giving - yup.
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HEY AC 488414:

I DIDN'T CHIME IN. I STARTED THIS POST. CHECK THE USER ID.

AND STOP MISREADING YOUR OWN AGENDA INTO EVERYTHING. YES. I FEEL SORRY FOR THAT GIRL AND HER FAMILY. THEY GOT A RAW DEAL FROM THE PRESS AND IF THE DNC IS BEHIND THIS, THEY SHOULD BE MUZZLED MUCH MORE TIGHTLY.

LASTLY, STOP HIDING BEHING AN AC POSTING IF YOU WANT TO TELL ANYONE TO "FUCK OFF". YOU NEVER KNOW, THOUGH, WHEN SOMEONE MIGHT JUST SHOVE THOSE WORDS BACK DOWN YOUR THROAT, DO YOU? BEING THE JERK YOU'VE BEEN, THE COWARDICE OF AN AC POSTING TO INSULT OTHERS WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE, WOULDN'T IT? GROW A PAIR OF BALLS, IDIOT, AND ACT LIKE YOU'RE A MAN. IF YOU HAVE OPINIONS, BELIEFS, ETC., HAVE THE COURAGE TO OWN THEM!
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Okay mark in NY you dick head, I'm mike in Mexico. You want to threaten me? Okay whenever and wherever you say. First questions: what's your last name? What's your address? and what's your phone number? Come on let me know. Or are you an anonymous coward?

So own up chicken shit!
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These strategist had to see this coming they go through your life with a fine tooth comb. Repubs (Rove)are meticulous about strategy's, plans, cleaning up backgrounds ect. This would NOT have been missed. Something is awry here,I smell a set up.
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These strategist had to see this coming they go through your life with a fine tooth comb. Repubs (Rove)are meticulous about strategy's, plans, cleaning up backgrounds ect. This would NOT have been missed. Something is awry here,I smell a set up.
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and kos stepped right in it
:6473madburger:

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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Just release the medical records of her son's birth in April, with a righteous dose of indignation at the depravity of the press.

Problem solved. She gets to prove the rumor mongers wrong, and, bash the media in the process. A twofer.

One wonders why they haven't done it yet. Maybe waiting for the right moment?

Unless, that is, someone is LYING.
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if you are going to step into the public eye, you may as well prepare to be looked at. and for your sake, you better be an eyefull.
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yes, thats how it is with msm
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you should see the myspace picture captures, captions and other such things going around. this is some good internet sleuthing!

popcorn
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Sarah Palin, Her Daughter, and the Smear Machine

Isn't it the Democrats who are supposed to be all about privacy in matters of the womb?

September 1, 2008 - by Michele Catalano

So, Bristol Palin, 17-year-old daughter of VP nominee Sarah Palin, is five months pregnant. While that closes one door — the endless rumors of the teenager being pregnant with Trig four and a half months ago and her mother faking the pregnancy for her — it opens another avenue for attacks on the newly named GOP VP pick.

Sarah and Todd Palin say their 17-year-old unmarried daughter is pregnant. The couple said in a statement released by John McCain’s presidential campaign that Bristol will keep her baby.

Sarah Palin is McCain’s vice presidential running mate. The Alaska governor says Bristol intends to marry the father of her child. She and the campaign also are asking that the media respect the family’s privacy

Privacy? Don’t bet on it. This is a whole fresh pile of mud for the left to start slinging. They’ll attack Palin’s family values stance, talk about how Palin teaches abstinence, and start trotting out the hypocrisy meme. Except this is not Palin who is the unmarried, pregnant teen. It’s her daughter. It’s not particularly shocking when a teenager does something against the parents’ teachings, is it? If we were to call out every parent who taught abstinence from sex, smoking, drugs, or drinking then had a kid indulge in any (or all) of those, we’d be here all day.

The fact is, the left is all about privacy in the matters of the womb. Were they to stay true to their colors, this mantra of theirs would seem to preclude them from judging Bristol’s pregnancy and her choice to keep her child, right? It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The Kos kids and their blog followers have already made one attempt to ruin this girl’s life. Now that they have a story with actual truth behind it, we’ll have to sit back and see how far they run with a teenager’s identity.

Let me make it clear: there are many things I don’t like about Sarah Palin. We are ideologically opposed on numerous issues. Her stance on creationism and her pro-life zealousness are just two examples. Two big ones. There’s the fact that McCain chose Palin for VP after meeting her only once; I’d like to think that more thought goes into the process than the need to find a conservative woman for your ticket. I’m naive like that. But the last two days of mudslinging against Palin have been so extreme, they have transformed her into an almost sympathetic figure in my eyes. More important, the barbs thrown at her have made me look upon liberals with a level of contempt I have not felt since, well, 2004.

If I’m rushing to the defense of a woman whose core ideologies I oppose, then something pretty bad must be going on. And that something smells like a pungent mixture of hypocrisy and desperation.

Let’s start with the first shots fired at Palin: She’s leaving her four-month-old Down syndrome son to participate in the campaign. As a result, she’s been called a bad mother, irresponsible mother, and shame to her gender for doing so. Yet you can bet if a Democrat woman did the same thing, she would be called a courageous woman who is giving up time with her infant because she is so dedicated to the future of her country. A million “bravos!” would ensue.

Here’s a woman who is in a position of power. She broke the glass ceiling. She holds a job previously only held by men. She is a strong leader, a good speaker, and a devoted wife and mother. So naturally, they jump all over her.

Wait, what? Aren’t these the same things Hillary Clinton was lauded for? It seems the left wants women to be in a position of power, as long as that woman has ideas that coincide with theirs. Otherwise, you are made out to be anything but a hero (there are, gladly, exceptions to this kind of thinking).

The most vicious of the accusations flying at Palin have come from the brain trust known as Daily Kos: those that her fifth child, Trig, was not really hers, but Bristol’s. There were claims of “proof” including pictures of Palin looking decidedly unpregnant after announcing her pregnancy; one of those pictures was posted on Flickr, with the date stating the photo was taken in March 2005. Quick research shows that the camera used to take the photo did not even hit the market until fall of 2005. Nice try. The rest of the proof is nothing more than speculation, circumstantial evidence, and wishful thinking.

It appears that some circles have been so desperate to destroy Palin that they are eager to drag her teenage daughter and her special needs son through the mud in order to get at her. Classy.

For every person who debunked the story, the Kos crowd came up with more and more unreal proof of their claim. Let’s suppose for a minute that this turns out to be true; couldn’t that possibly be looked at as an honorable thing to do, to raise a handicapped baby as your own in order to save your daughter from a burden she is probably not yet ready to handle? Oh, I’m sure if this was a liberal woman, she’d be applauded for her valor.

What’s really interesting here is the prying into Palin’s personal womb space. I thought that was off limits? Isn’t that part and parcel of the whole lefty oath that “one should never invade the sanctity of a woman’s womb or what she does with it”? Now somehow it’s okay to question one woman’s uterine activity. For those who don’t believe this story, there’s always the other stories rolling around the Internet:

– Palin was a bad mother, an irresponsible and poor decision maker for flying home after her water broke, while she was in labor. One would think a woman in her fifth pregnancy can make the proper decisions about her childbirth.

At that point, Palin was only having minor contractions and was not showing signs of active labor, Sharon Leighow, the governor’s spokeswoman, said on Monday. After the baby was born, Palin told her staff members that her experiences from four previous pregnancies made her comfortable with the signs of active labor. She felt that neither she nor her baby was in any danger, and so she flew home as scheduled.

Again, the hypocrisy of the Palin vagina-gazing is almost absurd.

– Palin wasn’t married when she got pregnant with her first child. Yea, and? She married the father, gave birth to the baby, and went on to have four more — oops, three? — with the same man. What a scandal. Yes, I know Palin is a conservative who spouts family values. This was 20-something years ago, if true. Why in the world would it matter now?

– Apparently Palin is a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, whose goal is to infiltrate the big parties in order to secede from the United States as a sovereign nation. Well, there you have it. She wants the job of VP just so she can be king of her own mountain some day!

– Sarah Palin had the nerve to make a joke about her boobs in college. Aren’t you just recoiling in horror now? I mean, that certainly makes the woman unfit to be VP at the least. She should have her “I Am Woman” credentials taken from her as well. And we could go on. Sarah Palin drinks the blood of endangered species. Sarah Palin single-handedly caused Hurricane Gustav. Sarah Palin is a robot. Sarah Palin uses her kids for target practice. Sarah Palin enjoys a moose milkshake every morning with her penguin eggs and bald eagle bacon.

There are enough legitimate issues for her opponents to attack her on (and as far as Troopergate goes, Wooten seems like a complete jackass, who threatened the life of his father-in-law). Why dig down into the dirt and come out looking like idiots searching for fool’s gold? For those who spent an awful lot of time being outraged at the “Obama is a Muslim” battle cry, this sure reeks of the same kind of desperate mudslinging.

Although Kos (finally) is putting an end to the pregnancy story, the fact remains that they threw this mud for 24 hours and threw it hard. The mud may not have stuck, but there’s doubt and mistrust in the air, and that’s just as good this close to the election. Palin was attacked on all the points one could make about a woman, and that’s what stinks most about this. The side of the political fence that is supposed to be so woman-friendly has gone out of its way to smear Palin based mostly on gender issues and motherhood and what the woman did or did not do with her womb. Hear them roar.

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the repugs are desperate to get those Hillary supporters. After all, they say, isnt Palin a woman just like Hillary?

lol
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I'm just not making the connection between Palin's daughter becoming pregnant and Palin somehow being a hypocrite because she teaches and recommends others to teach abstinence.

How many parents here have never had a son or daughter do something after they told them not to do it?

Show of hands.
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I'm just not making the connection between Palin's daughter becoming pregnant and Palin somehow being a hypocrite because she teaches and recommends others to teach abstinence.

How many parents here have never had a son or daughter do something after they told them not to do it?

Show of hands.
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Leaders have to live above the mainstream, they are leaders their lived need to be EXAMPLARY
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Leaders have to live above the mainstream, they are leaders their lived need to be EXAMPLARY
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Other than Jesus Christ, name one leader that has ever lived a perfect life.
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I mean all woman should stand behind one of their own. This isnt shallow thinking, this is sisterly solidarity! Look at those tits!, those hips!, that's one of ours.

And having a baby at 44! Wow, that's a vagina of steel!

And surviving a 12 hour plane ride after your water broke? That shows a fortitude that could crack coconuts.

And shooting bears from airplanes for sport? Well, we know helping Siberian tigers from extinction is for sissies.

And her knowledge of Russia by her proximity to Alaska? I just adore a woman who knows her geography.

I could go on. But the Republicans just dont shut up about poor Bristol enough for Sarah to answer questions of substance.

Why do they excel in distraction?

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