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NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERT

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NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERT


Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush
· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued
· Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
· 3 staffers have been held in contempt of Congress

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
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9/4/2008 12:52 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

surely it can't be?
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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9/4/2008 12:53 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Good find OP

headbang

Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush

· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued
· Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
· 3 staffers have been held in contempt of Congress

Elana Schor in Washington

Wednesday September 03 2008 19:32 BST

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

But his statements represent the Democrats' strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.

"[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

Obama sounded a similar note in April, vowing that if elected, he would ask his attorney general to initiate a prompt review of Bush-era actions to distinguish between possible "genuine crimes" and "really bad policies".

"f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."

Congressional Democrats have issued a flurry of subpoenas this year to senior Bush administration aides as part of a broad inquiry into the authorisation of torturous interrogation tactics used at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

Three veterans of the Bush White House have been held in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to respond to subpoenas: former counsel Harriet Miers, former political adviser Karl Rove, and current chief of staff Josh Bolten. The contempt battle is currently before a federal court.
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9/4/2008 12:53 AM
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Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

But his statements represent the Democrats' strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.

"[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

Obama sounded a similar note in April, vowing that if elected, he would ask his attorney general to initiate a prompt review of Bush-era actions to distinguish between possible "genuine crimes" and "really bad policies".

"f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."

Congressional Democrats have issued a flurry of subpoenas this year to senior Bush administration aides as part of a broad inquiry into the authorisation of torturous interrogation tactics used at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

Three veterans of the Bush White House have been held in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to respond to subpoenas: former counsel Harriet Miers, former political adviser Karl Rove, and current chief of staff Josh Bolten. The contempt battle is currently before a federal court.
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9/4/2008 12:54 AM
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^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
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9/4/2008 12:55 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Hell if that's true I might even vote for the man..

Imagine that!

- then again it might be hard to extradite him from Paraguay
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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9/4/2008 12:56 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

don't hold your breath
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is MOD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 12:56 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Hell if that's true I might even vote for the man..

Imagine that!
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


oh yea!
Can't wait to see this!
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9/4/2008 12:56 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

I hope obama knows that that just lost him the election right there. Bush Sr. was a strong influence in the CIA, Obama and Biden could go missing and everything would be swept under the political rug. What a stupid thing for them to be saying.
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 12:57 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

I hope obama knows that that just lost him the election right there. Bush Sr. was a strong influence in the CIA, Obama and Biden could go missing and everything would be swept under the political rug. What a stupid thing for them to be saying.
 Quoting: PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR


Oh no, HE'S SURE TO WIN IT NOW!!!!

IT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!

YEAA!!!
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 12:59 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

PALIN is finished NOW!!!!
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:01 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERT


Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush
· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued
· Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
· 3 staffers have been held in contempt of Congress

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
 Quoting: BREAKING NEWS 496818

"Might", I Might go to the show tonight, I don't know, I just haven't made up my mind. I Might, the sign of great indecision.
Douggie
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9/4/2008 1:02 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

I think they just blew the election. They should have waited to announce that......real bad timing.
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

*Term Coined by Douggie 7 Sept 08, 12 AM. *Apaulin, A term use to describe a ditz that is used for political purposes in order to get votes for there party. But doesnt necessarily mean that they have any qualifications for the job. Oh wait, she does have a degree in journalism.

Please excuse typo's. I type fast and dont give a crap about mistyped words.
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:02 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Biden: Criminal Charges Against Bush Admin. On The Table

[link to www.huliq.com]

How did the political radar miss this news. Joe Biden tells ABC "If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution - out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."

I direct your attention to the 9th and 10th paragraphs of their blog post about Biden ripping into Bush today:

Looking to the future but with one eye on the past, Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with "a fine-toothed comb" and pursue criminal charges if necessary.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution - out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."

The man who is very likely going to be the next Vice-President of this country just said that they are going to undertake a detailed review of the last eight years of Bush Administration conduct and pursue criminal charges where they are warranted.

Update: Thanks for the recs, guys. Maybe someone in the MSM will see it there and decide that it needs to be in the first paragraph instead of the 9th.

As pointed out in the comments, Obama himself has said something similar recently. I must have missed that when it first appeared. But I would like to point out that Biden's statement is much more aggressive than Obama's, and that in itself is noteworthy.

Reported by Devin's Diary of Daily Kos.
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9/4/2008 1:02 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Oh hell yes!!

Goodbye neoconservatives... good riddance. 8]
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9/4/2008 1:02 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

HOLY SHIT!!!
I guess this sends her shrill speech packing....lets see how long msm takes to say anything about it :heavy sarcasm:
Highway to Hell
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480578
9/4/2008 1:02 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

OH yes, right after they Lower Your Taxes .. remember ??
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390756
9/4/2008 1:03 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

"Could", I could wear these black shoes, but then again I could wear the white sneakers instead.

Wow, that people get so excited about such subjective language.
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:03 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

I think they just blew the election. They should have waited to announce that......real bad timing.
 Quoting: Douggie

HE'S SURE TO WIN IT NOW!!!!

IT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!

YEAA!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 390756
9/4/2008 1:05 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Biden: Criminal Charges Against Bush Admin. On The Table

[link to www.huliq.com]

How did the political radar miss this news. Joe Biden tells ABC "If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution - out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."

I direct your attention to the 9th and 10th paragraphs of their blog post about Biden ripping into Bush today:

Looking to the future but with one eye on the past, Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with "a fine-toothed comb" and pursue criminal charges if necessary.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution - out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."

The man who is very likely going to be the next Vice-President of this country just said that they are going to undertake a detailed review of the last eight years of Bush Administration conduct and pursue criminal charges where they are warranted.

Update: Thanks for the recs, guys. Maybe someone in the MSM will see it there and decide that it needs to be in the first paragraph instead of the 9th.

As pointed out in the comments, Obama himself has said something similar recently. I must have missed that when it first appeared. But I would like to point out that Biden's statement is much more aggressive than Obama's, and that in itself is noteworthy.

Reported by Devin's Diary of Daily Kos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 458657

"On the Table": the place where things go to be forgotten and to gather dust and mold, usually until they are picked up again usually to be tossed in the trash.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 458657
9/4/2008 1:06 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

ABC NEWS. . .

Biden Rips Bush Administration

[link to blogs.abcnews.com]

September 03, 2008 7:19 AM

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: While Republicans congregate in the Twin Cities striving to keep their hold on the White House, Barack Obama's running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., sharply criticized the Bush administration Tuesday while delineating the changes Democrats would demand if they rise to power.

"In an Obama-Biden administration, we will not have an attorney general who blatantly breaks the law," Biden said at a town-hall meeting in West Palm Beach, Florida, his voice at times drowned out by applause. "We will not have a president who doesn't understand the Constitution. And I will not be a vice-president who thinks he's not part of any of the three branches of government."

Biden ripped the Bush administration for wasting a chance to unite the nation in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"George Bush and his administration are going to be judged harshly by history," said the Delaware lawmaker. "Not for the mistakes they made, but for the opportunities to unite America and the world they squandered."

Now, Biden said, he and Obama are determined to take control of the West Wing, noting that he would not have agreed to share the Democratic ticket had he not known Obama's commitment to sticking to his values.

"Have you figured out what is worth losing over?" he said. "Because if you have not, it's just raw ambition. Barack understands what is worth losing over."

The McCain campaign responded to Biden's comments by using the veep nominee's own words against him. McCain's team referred back to when Biden, while campaigning in the Democratic primary, said that Obama was "not ready" for the presidency.

"Six months ago Joe Biden's description of an Obama administration was littered with questions of inexperience," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. "Today, Biden has been tasked with carrying the water for Barack Obama who has voted in favor of taxes 94 times in three years and has claimed that making decisions on the tough issues is 'above his paygrade'. Barack Obama has zero foreign policy experience, is not a credible voice on U.S. relations abroad, and as John McCain and Joe Biden agree, is just not ready to lead."

Earlier Monday, addressing a crowd in Deerfield Beach, Florida, Biden also preached the importance of this election in terms of the Supreme Court, noting that the next administration might appoint as many as three new justices.

"The single most important domestic decision that a president gets to make on his own or her own is the Supreme Court," he said.

Looking to the future but with one eye on the past, Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with "a fine-toothed comb" and pursue criminal charges if necessary.

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution - out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."

On Tuesday, the vice presidential nominee continued his 48-hour swing through the Sunshine State with stops in Ft. Myers and Sarasota.

September 3, 2008
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:07 AM
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HOOKER PALIN and MCNUT BUSH ARE FINISHED!!!!!
winddancer144
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9/4/2008 1:07 AM
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happybunnyobamas chicago group will be "breaking news' for the NEXT four yrs.
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:08 AM
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Have the "Daily KOS" and the "National Enquirer" changed roles with each other?
Anonymous Coward
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9/4/2008 1:09 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Its just election year pandering.... if they win.. don't expect to hear this mentioned ever again... and when you ask why they decided to back off....

They will answer:

"You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve." Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News.
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9/4/2008 1:09 AM
Re: NEWS ALERT: Obama & Biden to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Bush Administration! - ALERT ALERTQuote

Biden is always mouthy....

He hasn't asked permission from Pelosi yet.

No power in the House.....NOne ......that is their exclusive domain.
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