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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/05/2008 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? [link to kingdomengineers.wordpress.com] UNDERSTANDING “THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG” WHO In Ezekiel 38:1-6, the Hebrew prophet gives a list of obscure names that will form a united coalition. Gog is described as being “of the land of Magog” and as the “prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.” Most Bible scholars believe Gog is not a name but a title, like Pharaoh or Czar. He is a dictator who will hatch an “evil plan” (38:10). Magog = Leading Bible scholars say this is Russia and republics of the former Soviet Union. The first century Roman historian Josephus said the “Magogites” were the peoples whom the Greeks called “Scythians.” Scythians were a fierce, blood-thirsty civilization that settled north of the Baltic Sea in what is now Russia and the European republics of the former USSR. Rosh = Russia* Meshech = Some Bible scholars say this is Moscow, others believe it refers to Turkey Tubal = Some Bible scholars say this refers to the city/region of Tobolsk in Russia along the Tobol River; others say it refers to a section of modern-day Turkey. (Interestingly, in 1964, massive reserves of oil and gas were discovered in the Tobolsk region of Siberia and people now refer to the region as the “energy center of Russia.”)* Persia = This was the official name of Iran until 1935 ======== how about tublisi? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 488861 United States 09/05/2008 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? wake up wak up dum de dum dum ralph The name Gog means "mountain", the name Magog means "the land or people of Gog". ... the ship is the mount whitney ============================ The U.S. has sent three navy ships to deliver $37 million in aid to Georgia since the fighting ended with Russia over the separatist region of South Ossetia. The presence of U.S. and North Atlantic Treaty Organization ships in the Black Sea has further strained relations with Russia already chilled by Western condemnation of the conflict in Georgia. Andrei Nesterenko, a spokesman for Russia's Foreign Ministry, said in televised comments that the arrival of the Mount Whitney |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 488861 United States 09/05/2008 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? Russia backed over Georgia, angry at US ship 3 hours ago MOSCOW (AFP) — Russia won backing over Georgia Friday from six heads of ex-Soviet states and hit out at the United States for sending a navy flagship to a key Georgian port where its troops have been patrolling. The renewed support for Russia from the leaders of a Moscow-dominated bloc called the Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) came as US Vice President Dick Cheney wrapped up a tour of America's allies in the region. Cheney told Ukraine's squabbling leaders they must unite on a pro-Western course if they wanted to avoid the prospect of a Russian invasion similar to the one that befell Georgia last month. "We believe in the right of men and women to live without the threat of tyranny, economic blackmail or military invasion or intimidation. Ukraine's best hope to overcome these threats is to be united," Cheney said in Kiev. As the war of words between Russia and the US intensified, Moscow angrily questioned why Washington had chosen one of its most sophisticated warships, the USS Mount Whitney, to transport aid to the Black Sea port of Poti. Washington says the ship is there to deliver vital aid to Georgian refugees but a senior Russian official suggested it might be serving military purposes. "Naval ships of that class can hardly deliver a large amount of aid," foreign ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko told journalists, underlining instead the ship's sophisticated surveillance technology. Since bombing Poti last month during the war with Georgia, Russia has deployed troops at checkpoints near the strategically important port, who patrol in the town from time to time. Russia sent hundreds of tanks and troops into Georgian territory on August 8 in what it says was a response to a Georgian offensive to regain control of South Ossetia from Moscow-backed separatists. Moscow withdrew the bulk of its forces from Georgia under a French-brokered ceasefire agreement, but it has still kept thousands of troops deployed in the country, saying it needs security guarantees before it pulls out completely. Russia last week recognised South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another breakaway region, as independent states, drawing fierce condemnation from Georgia and many Western countries. It had perhaps hoped that the CSTO meeting in Moscow featuring the leaders of Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, would provide a suitable occasion for its allies to follow suit. However, some fear such a move could complicate other territorial disputes in the region and they instead signed a declaration of support for Russia's actions in Georgia. "The partners in the organisation have given a unanimously negative assessment of Georgia's actions, Georgia's aggression in South Ossetia," Medvedev said at the closure of the summit. He also warned against any attempt to rearm Georgia, saying Tbilisi's allies were in danger of drawing the wrong lessons from last month's conflict. "We certainly don't want incorrect conclusions to be drawn from this conflict," Medvedev said at a news conference in Moscow. "We don't want Georgia, which was the aggressor, to continue rearming, moreover in an uncontrolled way with incomprehensible purposes and completely unclear consequences," he said. Medvedev added, "This is a lesson for the whole international community, including for those who decide to provide additional finance and arms cooperation for Georgia." Lower-ranking Russian officials have repeatedly accused the United States of covertly rearming its partner Georgia under cover of aid deliveries, which Washington has made by sea and air. In Tbilisi on Thursday, Cheney accused Russia of an "illegitimate" invasion to redraw the map of Georgia and unveiled a one-billion dollar (701-million euro) aid package to help reconstruction. His trip to Georgia coincided with an announcement by the OSCE that it had sent military observers into a buffer zone between Russian and Georgian troops for the first time since the conflict. Meanwhile, EU foreign ministers travelled from Paris to Avignon on Friday aboard a special high-speed train decked out in European colours in a show of unity over the Georgia crisis.... [link to afp.google.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 488861 United States 09/05/2008 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? then this bit from israel old but applies... =============================== [link to www.israelnationalnews.com] Israel Warns World War III May be Biblical War of Gog and Magog by Ezra HaLevi (IsraelNN.com) US President George W. Bush said a nuclear Iran would mean World War III. Israeli newscasts featured Gog & Magog maps of the likely alignment of nations in that potential conflict. Channel 2 and Channel 10 TV showed the world map, sketching the basic alignment of the two opposing axes in a coming world war, in a manner evoking associations of the Gog and Magog prophecy for many viewers. The prophecy of Gog and Magog refers to a great world war centered on the Holy Land and Jerusalem and first appears in the book of Yechezkel (Ezekiel). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/05/2008 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? add this bit yesterday... September 4, 2008 Russia Strives To Halt US Backed Yom Kippur Nuclear Attack On Iran Kremlin intelligence reports are stating today that Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, during his upcoming visit to Poland, will attempt to halt the US and Israeli planned attack upon Iran, and currently labeled by Russian Military Analysts as ‘Yom Kippur II’. Russia’s Military reference to this new war as Yom Kippur II is based upon the first Yom Kippur war (also known as the ‘1973 Arab-Israeli War’ and ‘the Fourth Arab-Israeli War’ and in the Arab World as the Ramadan War) in which the Arab Nations encircling Israel nearly destroyed the Jewish state and brought our World close to nuclear conflict when then US President Nixon ordered his Nation to the alert status of DEFCON III after Israeli threats to use atomic weapons if not resupplied by the Americans. These reports further state that the established US-Israeli timeline for the beginning of this new war is based upon the Jewish Religious Leaders ‘biblical based’ beliefs that they will only be successful if attacks are launched between the September 29th beginning of Rosh Hashanah and the October 1st start of Yom Kippur. Rosh Hashanah is known as The Ten Days of Repentance and is the most solemn days of the Jewish year, and concludes with the holiday of Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) and provides to the Jewish peoples the ‘religious rational’ in seeking forgiveness from their God for the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents. The heavily Israeli influenced US Congress is, likewise, preparing for this new war against Iran when it reconvenes this week (US Senate September 4th, US House of Representatives September 8th), to authorize their War Leaders to begin these attacks [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/05/2008 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? dum de dum dum...... sheep breaking news again... and this 0ne hour ago.... US urges unity against Russian ‘threat’ [link to dailymailnews.com] KIEV—US Vice President Dick Cheney urged Ukraine’s leaders to unite and pointed to Russia as the reason for the country’s woes as he held talks Friday with the deeply divided president and prime minister. Cheney ratcheted up the pressure on Moscow and pledged US support for Ukraine, in the grip of a political crisis with bitter infighting sharpened by divisions over ties with Russia following its war with Georgia last month. “We believe in the right of men and women to live without the threat of tyranny, economic blackmail or military invasion or intimidation,” Cheney said in a thinly-veiled reference to Russia’s recent incursion into Georgia. “Ukraine’s best hope to overcome these threats is to be united — united domestically first and foremost and united with other democracies,” he added after talks with Ukraine’s President Viktor Yushchenko. Using similar language as he did on previous stops on his tour of ex-Soviet republics Azerbaijan and Georgia this week, Cheney vowed Washington’s “deep and abiding interest” in Ukraine’s “well-being and security.” He also kept up the pressure on Russia, whose ties with the United States have sunk to a new post Cold War low, touting Georgian democracy and slamming Russia’s military actions last month over the rebel region of South Ossetia. “I arrived here last night from Georgia, a young democracy that in the last month has been subjected to a Russian invasion, and an illegitimate, unilateral attempt by force of arms to dismember its territory,” Cheney said. He also restated US support for Ukraine’s bid to join NATO and warned Russia, which has fiercely opposed ex-Soviet Ukraine’s bid to join the military alliance, against attempting to block Ukraine’s entry. “Ukrainians have a right to choose whether they wish to join NATO, and NATO has a right to invite kraine to join the alliance when we believe they are ready and that the time is right. No outside country has a veto,” Cheney said. Cheney spoke first with Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and later met Yushchenko as he looked to heal wounds in Ukraine’s ruling coalition on a tour to bolster key US allies following the conflict in Georgia. “He acknowledged it’s a challenging time for Ukraine because of recent developments in Russia,” US administration spokeswoman Megan Mitchell told reporters after the closed-door meeting between Cheney and Tymoshenko in Kiev. The squabbling highlights deep differences between the mainly Russian-speaking southeast of Ukraine and the predominantly Ukrainian-speaking northwest of the country, more oriented towards integration with the West. Cheney’s visit came as the flagship of the US Navy’s Sixth Fleet arrived with aid in the Georgian port of Poti, close to where Russian forces have been deployed since last month’s war with Georgia. European officials have suggested Ukraine could be the next flashpoint for tensions between Russia and the West after the war in Georgia last month that has left Russian troops occupying positions deep inside Georgian territory. Like Georgia, Ukraine has angered Moscow by bidding to join NATO and the EU. Yushchenko has said his country was a hostage in Russia’s reassertion of influence in the former Soviet Union and has offered to boost defence ties with the West. He has also warned that Russia threatens stability in the region. In Georgia on Thursday, Cheney accused Russia of an “illegitimate” invasion to redraw the map of Georgia and after Washington unveiled a one-billion dollar (701-million euro) aid package to help reconstruction. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/05/2008 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? An intelligence source said Russia was scrutinizing the vessel. "Very soon it will be clear, what the ship has really brought to Georgia," the source said. dum de dum dum for real.... ============================ and this juicy tid bit of breaking news now breaking from the russian perspective.... SEVASTOPOL, September 5 (RIA Novosti) - The third U.S. Navy vessel to bring humanitarian aid to Georgia arrived in the Black Sea port of Poti on Friday, a Russian navy source said. The USS Mount Whitney, which passed through the Bosporus on Wednesday, brought various supplies, including blankets, hygiene kits and baby food to become the first NATO ship to arrive in Poti since the Russian-Georgian conflict. Two previous ships, the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Dallas and USS McFaul docked in the Georgian port of Batumi. The White House announced Thursday a $1 billion economic aid package for war-ravaged Georgia. The Black Sea Fleet source also said the flagship of the U.S. Sixth Fleet was big enough to carry heavy weapons, which - the Russian military believes - is probably the main part of the delivery. An intelligence source said Russia was scrutinizing the vessel. "Very soon it will be clear, what the ship has really brought to Georgia," the source said. The Blue Ridge class ship is a command and control vessel, which, the source said, coordinates the group of NATO ships in the Black Sea also including two U.S., one Spanish, one German and one Polish vessel. Lt. Col. John Dorrian, a spokesman for the US European Command, said Friday that Russian peacekeepers would not be allowed to examine the cargo as the port of Poti is on sovereign Georgian territory. [link to en.rian.ru] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/06/2008 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? and this now play nice lizzy masonic brothers... & children must not start a war too soon.... you will not make your gog magog timeline on time.... ==================================== Bush Plans to Halt Nuclear Deal with Russia US President Bush is poised to punish Moscow for the brief war with Georgia by withdrawing an agreement for civilian nuclear cooperation with Russia. The pact, known as the 123 Agreement, would clear the way for more trade of nuclear goods between the United States and Russia but as early as next week President Bush could deep-freeze the agreement, withdrawing it from congressional deliberations, administration officials told CNN. As the Bush administration is signalling that Russia's behaviour in the Caucasus is unacceptable for the United States, yet another friction between Washington and Moscow appeared. Russia protest against a top-of-the-line US warship coming into the Georgian port of Poti, where Russian forces are still stationed. The ship is supposed to carry humanitarian aid for Georgia. The USS Mount Whitney is the Navy's only Joint Command Ship and is considered to be the most sophisticated ship ever commissioned in terms of communication, control, command, computers and intelligence capabilities. [link to www.novinite.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/06/2008 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? and this bit.... of important dates.... [link to www.dccsa.com] 4. DAY OR FEAST OF TRUMPETS (Rosh HaShanah or Yom Teruach) Num 29:1; Lev 23:23-25: On Tishri 1. Rosh HaShanah means "head of the year." According to Jewish tradition, on this day the gates of heaven are opened, (Rev 3:7-11). Tradition has it as the anniversary of the creation of the world and the beginning of the Kingdom of HaShem (God), Adam and Eve were created, the flood waters dried up, Enoch was taken by the LORD; Sarah, Rachel, and Samuel were conceived, Joseph was freed from prison by Pharaoh, forced labor of Hebrews in Egypt ended, Job contracted leprosy, the start of sacrifices on the altar built by Ezra. According to Jewish tradition all of those events happened on Tishri 1. The Feast of Trumpets is celebrated by blowing trumpets (shofar) 100 times to announce the setting up of The LORD's eternal court. The sounding of the shofar reminds us of the binding of Isaac by his father Abraham, and we too must be willing to make such sacrifices. On this day we reaffirm our acceptance of The LORD as our King, and He judges all of His human creatures on this day and decides on their fate in the coming year. It is the first month of the new civil year. These 10 days are called the Days of Awe or High Holy Days. This was also the time to bring all of your tithe (10th) for the poor, widows, orphans, and the Levite priest who have no inheritance. Over these 10 days the wheat will be brought in on the threshing floor and separated from the chaff. This 2-day feast comes AT A DAY AND HOUR NO MAN KNOWS and you are not required to go up to the temple on this day. a. This is the day set up to remember the blowing of trumpets when the great sign appeared in the heavens of the announcement of Yeshua’s birth (Lion of Judah), which the Chaldean astronomers had been watching, and waiting for, for over four hundred years, (Rev.12:1-2). b. Will be the announcement of Yeshua’s second coming and the Resurrection of the Saints, (IThess 4:16,17). c. Will be the end of Jacob’s trouble, (Jer 30:7). d. Will be the end of first Gog Magog War at the start of the millennial reign of King Yeshua. ======================================= 5769 Jewish Calendar Year (240 Dropped in 135 AD) = 2008 - 2009 Tue. 30 September 2008 Rosh HaShanah - Feast of Trumpets Thu. 9 October 2008 Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement Tue. 14 October 2008 Sukkot - Feast of Tabernacles Tue. 21 October 2008 First Day of Simcha Torah Wed. 22 October 2008 Simcha Torah - Joy of Torah Mon. 22 December 2008 Chanukah - Fest of Lights Tue. 10 March 2009 Purim Thu. 9 April 2009 Pesach - Passover Next Day Unleavened Bread 3rd Day First Fruits Tue. 21 April 2009 Yom HaSho’ah - Holocaust Rememberance Wed. 29 April 2009 Yom HaAtzma’ut - Israel Independence Day Tue. 12 May 2009 Lag B’Omer - 33rd day in Counting to Pentecost Fri. 29 May 2009 Shavuot - Pentecost Thu. 30 July 2009 Tisha B’Av - 9th of Av |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 495336 United Kingdom 09/06/2008 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? and this bit.... of important dates.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495109[link to www.dccsa.com] 4. DAY OR FEAST OF TRUMPETS (Rosh HaShanah or Yom Teruach) Num 29:1; Lev 23:23-25: On Tishri 1. Rosh HaShanah means "head of the year." According to Jewish tradition, on this day the gates of heaven are opened, (Rev 3:7-11). Tradition has it as the anniversary of the creation of the world and the beginning of the Kingdom of HaShem (God), Adam and Eve were created, the flood waters dried up, Enoch was taken by the LORD; Sarah, Rachel, and Samuel were conceived, Joseph was freed from prison by Pharaoh, forced labor of Hebrews in Egypt ended, Job contracted leprosy, the start of sacrifices on the altar built by Ezra. According to Jewish tradition all of those events happened on Tishri 1. The Feast of Trumpets is celebrated by blowing trumpets (shofar) 100 times to announce the setting up of The LORD's eternal court. The sounding of the shofar reminds us of the binding of Isaac by his father Abraham, and we too must be willing to make such sacrifices. On this day we reaffirm our acceptance of The LORD as our King, and He judges all of His human creatures on this day and decides on their fate in the coming year. It is the first month of the new civil year. These 10 days are called the Days of Awe or High Holy Days. This was also the time to bring all of your tithe (10th) for the poor, widows, orphans, and the Levite priest who have no inheritance. Over these 10 days the wheat will be brought in on the threshing floor and separated from the chaff. This 2-day feast comes AT A DAY AND HOUR NO MAN KNOWS and you are not required to go up to the temple on this day. a. This is the day set up to remember the blowing of trumpets when the great sign appeared in the heavens of the announcement of Yeshua’s birth (Lion of Judah), which the Chaldean astronomers had been watching, and waiting for, for over four hundred years, (Rev.12:1-2). b. Will be the announcement of Yeshua’s second coming and the Resurrection of the Saints, (IThess 4:16,17). c. Will be the end of Jacob’s trouble, (Jer 30:7). d. Will be the end of first Gog Magog War at the start of the millennial reign of King Yeshua. ======================================= 5769 Jewish Calendar Year (240 Dropped in 135 AD) = 2008 - 2009 Tue. 30 September 2008 Rosh HaShanah - Feast of Trumpets Thu. 9 October 2008 Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement Tue. 14 October 2008 Sukkot - Feast of Tabernacles Tue. 21 October 2008 First Day of Simcha Torah Wed. 22 October 2008 Simcha Torah - Joy of Torah Mon. 22 December 2008 Chanukah - Fest of Lights Tue. 10 March 2009 Purim Thu. 9 April 2009 Pesach - Passover Next Day Unleavened Bread 3rd Day First Fruits Tue. 21 April 2009 Yom HaSho’ah - Holocaust Rememberance Wed. 29 April 2009 Yom HaAtzma’ut - Israel Independence Day Tue. 12 May 2009 Lag B’Omer - 33rd day in Counting to Pentecost Fri. 29 May 2009 Shavuot - Pentecost Thu. 30 July 2009 Tisha B’Av - 9th of Av He`s hijacked his own thread and turned it into a religious pile of babble...... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 495109 Netherlands 09/06/2008 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking News_dum de dum dum_U.S. Navy Ship Arrives at Georgian Port Where Russia Has Troops_Conflict soon-Gog Magog? a woman sitting on the Beast, drunken with the blood of the Saints..... drunk women? who is this... (is there any women who could be in power in usa)? it will be over for babalon in one hour..... one hour? The entire book of The Revelation has statements of these things that the saints in the last days of the antichrist war on the saints will understand to be clear and confirming restatements and confirming second and third witness of what the Word of God has said. The book of the Revelation is like the hub of the wheel of all prophecy with all of the bible prophets as spokes of the wheel strengthening the focal point of the hub. These same things may be found in the book of Deuteronomy, which are confirmed by The Revelation. We see the judgments repeated, interpreted, and confirmed by the visions following the seventh trumpet. seventh trumpet.....september is the 7 month... ========================= from glp thread... Who made September the 9th month of the year when September means 7? First Month March the Seventh Month is September(meaning 7) and the Eighth Month is October(meaning 8) and the Ninth Month is November(meaning 9) and the Tenth Month is December(meaning 10). It starts putting things into alignment and helps the foundation to make sense. ALPHA OMEGA NEW JERUSALEM CALENDAR ALPHA OMEGA DAY 0/0 VERNAL EQUINOX |