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Interesting & Bizarre: Does Obama Have Secret Ties to Oprah's New Age Guru Eckhart Tolle?

 
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Interesting & Bizarre: Does Obama Have Secret Ties to Oprah's New Age Guru Eckhart Tolle?
The Real Obama is the Obama Oprah Knows

Barack Obama’s connections to Oprah Winfrey and her New Age guru, Eckhart Tolle, are the least examined, yet most revealing, and by far the most potentially ruinous of the senator’s controversial associations. Obama claims to be a “committed Christian,” yet appears to support Oprah in the worldwide dissemination of Tolle’s and her virulent anti-Christian doctrine.

The closeness of the connection may now be paying off. Oprah has rejected the idea of having Republican Vice Presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin as a guest on her show before the election. Palin would seem a natural. Did Oprah put Palin aside because of her loyalty to Obama?

And who is Eckhart Tolle? According to his own account, after a childhood of trauma and a young adult life of despair and depression, Tolle, at age twenty-nine, experienced a psychic split in his personality during which his ego or his false, suffering-self collapsed, leaving him with the realization of his “true nature as the ever-present I am, consciousness in its pure state prior to identification with form.” Not long after that, he entered into what he calls his “new incarnation as a spiritual teacher.” Believe it or not, Tolle thinks that he has become the greatest living spiritual teacher on earth by overcoming “egoic delusion.”

Oprah accepts Tolle’s doctrine completely and promotes it globally with a fervor unmatched in her other pursuits, so we may call the foundation of their joint venture, the Oprah/Tolle doctrine. But what exactly is it?

According to Tolle, the Sacred Scriptures (the apostle Paul’s term) are no longer sacred, having lost their essence, power, and inspiration. Tolle himself is now the ultimate interpreter of all things spiritual. Tolle’s words, not Christ’s, “contain a great deal of spiritual power.” Tolle’s books, not the Bible, are “spiritually alive.”

The Oprah/Tolle doctrine says that God the Father is a worn-out phrase disguising the true “it” behind all things: “universal intelligence,” in and of which, Tolle and Oprah imagine they partake abundantly. Jesus Christ is not the Son of God, but rather a “rare” human being, in contrast to the stoic Roman emperor, Marcus Aurelius, whom Tolle describes as an “exceedingly rare” human being. The second coming of Christ is not at all what the scriptures describe, but rather “the transformation of human consciousness, a shift from time to presence, from thinking to pure consciousness, not the arrival of some man or woman.” According to Tolle, when Christ spoke of “salvation,” He actually meant “enlightenment,” more specifically, the “radical transformation of human consciousness.”

If we were to put the Oprah/Tolle doctrine into the form of a bumper sticker or a sound bite it would be this: “Forget Christ and the Bible. Believe Tolle and Oprah.” In short, the Oprah/Tolle doctrine makes a mockery of Christ and all of scripture.

The false teaching inherent in the Oprah/Tolle doctrine is bad enough. What makes it a thousand times worse, egregiously reprehensible even, is the fact that Oprah tells the lie of lies about it. She introduces her online class presenting the Oprah/Tolle doctrine by asserting that it “is not for or against any religion.” Not against Christianity? For the purpose of grasping the destructive violence that the Oprah/Tolle doctrine does to Christianity, picture the complete word of God as existing on baked clay tablets. Now visualize Oprah and Tolle taking sledgehammers to them. Those who seek to obliterate the very foundation of Christianity are not against it?

On Oprah’s Web site, next to the words, “This online class is not for or against any religion,” she has placed an image of the spire of a Christian church with a cross at its top. How much more morally corrupt could Oprah be?

The Oprah/Tolle doctrine asserts that “[a] significant portion of the earth’s population will soon recognize, if they haven’t already done so, that humanity is now faced with a stark choice: Evolve or die.” Oprah and Tolle, in their own minds, have “awakened” and “evolved.” Oprah sees Barack Obama as having “awakened” and “evolved” as well. In South Carolina, Oprah called Obama “an evolved leader who can bring evolved leadership to our country.” This suggests that Oprah, who describes her relationship with Obama as “very, very personal,” knows the senator to be one who subscribes to the Oprah/Tolle doctrine.

At a UCLA rally, Oprah said, “I’m just following my own truth, and that truth has led to Barack Obama.” Oprah’s “own truth” is the anti-Christian Oprah/Tolle doctrine. Is the real Obama the Obama Oprah knows?

In Iowa, Michelle Obama said that Oprah had touched her soul and empowered her. How so? Through the blatantly anti-Christian Oprah/Tolle doctrine?

Is Obama a “committed Christian” as he claims, or is he on board with Tolle and Oprah in their global anti-Christian crusade? Or, as a third explanatory possibility, is the Tolle-entranced Oprah, “the richest and most influential woman in the world,” not the Oprah Obama knew?

Tolle describes those who embrace his teaching as being “not for ‘my’ country but for all of humanity, not for ‘my’ religion but the emergence of consciousness in all human beings, not for ‘my’ species but for all sentient beings and all of nature.” Sound familiar? Are those the values we want in an American president? Time magazine called Tolle’s book, The Power of Now, so much “mumbo jumbo.” Even if you’re not a Christian, do you want a president whose vision of the American future is based, to any degree, on Tolle’s mumbo jumbo?



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well he is, "the one"
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well he is, "the one"
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"In Iowa, Michelle Obama said that Oprah had touched her soul and empowered her. How so?"

I thought its was freeky seeing all the good luck charms he carries with him 24/7. Not just a St Christopher medal, but a big bag full of Voodo shit.

I have no idea about this Guru stuff, but it sure seems to make some sense.

A GLP consipiracy diamond in the rough so to speak.

Better than scull and bones.

A mystery to be uncovered. But will the hard GLP Obama worshipers investigate or say BS?


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I saw on dailykos where obama was bangin his sisters husband.
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it sounds like a cult.

I am shocked that oprah is not an operating thetan. obama fits the scientology mold too, except he is a muslim.

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Tolle is a German Nazi. His favorite saying is :Resist Not Evil. Sounds alot like a another former psychotic;Jesus Christ. Jesus was going to be the next Roman Emperor. They used him and when he figured it out, they supposedly lynched him. Sounds like Sarah Palin, Ekhard Tolle, Jesus Christ, GW Bush, John McCain and Obama have alot of Nazi hypocrisy in common. Look in the mirror!
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He's not a Christian fundamentalist, that's definitely a plus in my book. The United Church of Christ, his church, does embrace and tolerate all spiritual teachings and is not a narrow-minded belief system. It's the same denomination I was raised in so I know it well.
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it sounds like a cult.

I am shocked that oprah is not an operating thetan. obama fits the scientology mold too, except he is a muslim.

fight the smears


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Oprah has successfully resisted the Scientology recruiters thus far. If she goes into Scientology, she is done for, mentally and spiritually.
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everyone deep down believes in crazy things

they only have a problem with the crazy things others believe
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everyone deep down believes in crazy things

they only have a problem with the crazy things others believe
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To interpret parts of the Bible,is what most pastors, priests,etc. do every Sunday, even the Pope does this. Tolle is interpreting the Bible to further his point. Considering that metaphore and allegory are used in the Bible, it is open to interpretation.
I consider the Bible to be an incomplete work, do to the ommission of "truth" by the Nicaene council, and the council of Constantinople in the fourth century. Further,the translations that have occured through the years have altered the truth. Therefore,truth is subjective and open to interpretation.
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Excellent post. This is a spiritual battle. This is what
we're up against.
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Man, I hope so.

Eckarht Tolle's books are very empowering to the individual. He does his best to remind you that you are greater than your fears and daily struggles. That this life is meant to be fun and and an exciting experience where one gets to fully immerse the eternal spirit in a material world that should be focused on potitive Creation!

In essence, YOU create your life. You make choices, and the systems of control (one being your childlike mind) want you to forget that power of choice.

Chose a different perspective to view your life from. A third party outsider...look at your collective experiences...notice a pattern...where you get your energy from...how you use your time. All wonderful stuff!

Makes me want to go back and re-read The Power of Now.

Thanks PAC!
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Excellent post. This is a spiritual battle. This is what
we're up against.
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Yes it truly is a spiritual battle.

Love will overcome fear.
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I saw on dailykos where obama was bangin his sisters husband.
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Um, no that was Molly accusing Sarah for banging Jack McCann, Molly's first husband.

Do your homework.
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Sarah was baptized in Assembly of God at 18. In alaska, her pastor put his hands on her head and said God had marked her to serve him. Later she was quoted as saying this war was GOds will (to convert the heathens) ...when she was going to run for gov she quickly went to a less radical church. Her old minister has publicly said those who vote for Kerry would burn in Hell. She is a good actress and reads her lines well.
Marijuana is legal in Alaska....did this cause the babys chromosomes to mutat??
She is lying to all of you. Oprah has a right to pick her guests and not be bullied. Its her business. None of you have really checked her background and yet you would elect 2 people who would start wwIII and DRAFT our young people and send them to die in foreign lands.
Wake up!!
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Excellent post. This is a spiritual battle. This is what
we're up against.
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Until I read this, I hadn't considered the issue at all. I fugured he wasnt really spirtural even though he attended a black liberation church for 20 years. He doesnt know much about the meaning of simple scripture.

Guessed his going to churuch was more for political blessing and position in South Chicago having the god-father, Rev Wright as his mentor.

You arent going to find a born again christian anywhere who carries Voodoo shit for luck.

However,,,,

The possibility of him being a secret member and "mole" for a cult with powerful support from people like Oprah brings back visions of the people in Rosemary's Baby and Omen.

Scary shit if he really is a "secret" follower of this wacko guru cult.

Its a real deal killer if it is true and it gets out.

Its a real deal killer for America if he wins.

But then that was the case anyway...
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Sarah was baptized in Assembly of God at 18. In alaska, her pastor put his hands on her head and said God had marked her to serve him. Later she was quoted as saying this war was GOds will (to convert the heathens) ...when she was going to run for gov she quickly went to a less radical church. Her old minister has publicly said those who vote for Kerry would burn in Hell. She is a good actress and reads her lines well.
Marijuana is legal in Alaska....did this cause the babys chromosomes to mutat??
She is lying to all of you. Oprah has a right to pick her guests and not be bullied. Its her business. None of you have really checked her background and yet you would elect 2 people who would start wwIII and DRAFT our young people and send them to die in foreign lands.
Wake up!!
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Dems have started all the major wars and the only ones who have instituted the draft.

You seem to have a backward vision of reality dont you Spanky?
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It's interesting that you have a dancing jaundiced penis next to your post
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It's interesting that you have a dancing jaundiced penis next to your post
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Actually it is a banana.

Most people see that but then you have this thing for dicks and you mind just goes there.

Have you already come out or are you still arguing with your real girl inside?

laugh
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how perceptive of you.It is in reference to Freudian ideology. By the way, I am Female:)
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how perceptive of you.It is in reference to Freudian ideology. By the way, I am Female:)
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I still see it as a banana.

I wear bifocals and always use the dancing banana so I can find my threads easier.

Saves time and countless bottles of tylenol over the years.

Sorry to call you a guy who likes penis Sweet Cheeks.

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Speaking of cults ... This one is Sarah's along with the Pentecostal cult.

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Can all of you please quit responding to PACMANS threads if you disagree, he has never answered mine and others challenges to debate and is nothing more than an elitist whore and a big money corporate tool. Thank you in advance.
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Three times over the past five years, the last being only a couple of months ago, I have announced a DEBATE for anyone to debate me on any subject you want. I have given 7 days notice of the debate date and time.

Not one person has ever shown up. Not one.

Now you say you have challenged me. I have never seen it. Did you post it some evening at midnight or something?

What would you like to discuss Spanky?
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If we were to put the Oprah/Tolle doctrine into the form of a bumper sticker or a sound bite it would be this: “Forget Christ and the Bible. Believe Tolle and Oprah.” In short, the Oprah/Tolle doctrine makes a mockery of Christ and all of scripture.

That is so true...! IMO Oprah has jumped the shark........
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gee, i just love all the posts about obama and oprah and palin and the gang, it's just so facinating compared to like cern, or getting nuked by russia, or even the guys dog who just died, and all those concerns by the dreary ol down and out people. 5a bsflag
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Excellent post. This is a spiritual battle. This is what
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Until I read this, I hadn't considered the issue at all. I fugured he wasnt really spirtural even though he attended a black liberation church for 20 years. He doesnt know much about the meaning of simple scripture.

Guessed his going to churuch was more for political blessing and position in South Chicago having the god-father, Rev Wright as his mentor.

You arent going to find a born again christian anywhere who carries Voodoo shit for luck.

However,,,,

The possibility of him being a secret member and "mole" for a cult with powerful support from people like Oprah brings back visions of the people in Rosemary's Baby and Omen.

Scary shit if he really is a "secret" follower of this wacko guru cult.

Its a real deal killer if it is true and it gets out.

Its a real deal killer for America if he wins.

But then that was the case anyway...
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What would you call the last 8 years you prick? Happy times for all? Your fucking clueless party has had 8 fucking years. I'll say it agian you thick minded SOB 8 fucking years. Now in the interest of fairness for the other parties looser shut the fuck up.

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