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Canada Dissolves Government!!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:08 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
Well all the conservatives have seemed to do has been institute more laws designed to put people in jail. But we don't have many jails in Canada, thats the way we like it.
Maybe that's the way YOU like it, sheeptard - as for me, build me more jails.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Looking for a new home?
I cant believe how shallow you are GOAT.
"I want more jails".... WTF? I never realized there was a shortage, or are you drooling to fill them up?
Out of Afgansitan now! Number one issue.
And daycare!
Fuck your jails. |
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Pile of goo
User ID: 492023
9/7/2008 4:08 PM
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I have had it with all these morons. This time I'm not voting for the Conservatives , I'm voting my heart. Libertarian.
Farewall to big Government. |
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LS 
Self-Similarity
User ID: 437351
9/7/2008 4:10 PM
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To Canadians (and those who know Canadian Law).
Forgive me that I do not know Canada laws and regulations, but here is the link.
[ link to www.cnn.com]
Can the PM dissolve the government? Is that part of your law there? Is it legal to do? It just doesn't seem koshure to say, "I'm dissovling government." How will the government run when it's "dissolved?"
Again, forgive me for my ignorance on Canadian law. This just seems like a sinister act to an outsider.
this is very normal in a parliamentary style government.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:10 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
This isnt gonna effect hockey is it eh?
It wont! OK, never mind then.
well the montreal canadiens might have to change their name if they separate lol,.. and have to re - apply as a team in the nhl, i doubt theyd get back in. no great loss. then toronto would be the tops in cups!! :) finally Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327736
Les Canadiens are as Quebecois as Maple syrup.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490527
9/7/2008 4:10 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I have had it with all these morons. This time I'm not voting for the Conservatives , I'm voting my heart. Libertarian.
Farewall to big Government. Quoting: Pile of goo
Canadian action party.
The only real libertarian party for Canadians to vote for. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:11 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I have had it with all these morons. This time I'm not voting for the Conservatives , I'm voting my heart. Libertarian.
Farewall to big Government. Quoting: Pile of goo
What's party is libertard a la Canada? |
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Evil Twin 
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User ID: 498974
9/7/2008 4:13 PM
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This is normal then?
I'm pretty ignorant about the Canadian Parliamentary system. I have a hard enough time figuring what the hell my own government is doing most of the time, lol.
Rest assured that your government of the people, by the people, and for the people will not perish from the earth. It will just be slightly modified by TPTB from time to time. As a matter of fact, your new President has already been s-elected for you, and you will hear the results sometime early in November. Ha-ha.
Canadian Parliament is far more democratic in nature than the republican form of the US government. Every Member of Parliament is responsible and held accountable to the Canadian electorate.
However that is not the case in the US. Most US cabinet ministers are chosen by the President with absolutely no accountability to the electorate. Now why would anyone want to change this 'fine' system?
I don't feel like arguing politics today, I've had enough of that all week, lol. I will say this, our Congress, like your Parliament, are elected democratically. The President appoint his cabinet, but they are all vetted and approved by Congres, the people we elected to represent us. Our system was never a Democracy, it's a Democratic Republic.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:13 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
Let me be more specific.
I have heard of other countries "dissolving parliment etc.", but they were usually 2nd and 3rd tier (world) countries that couldn't accomplish business.
I was pressed for time so I couldn't do the reseach myself. I had thought there were a few Canadians here that could explain it further.
I mean, calling early elections is similar to what happens in Pakistan among other countries. Quoting: Spare Tire
but thanks for asking... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473581
9/7/2008 4:14 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
its a parliamentary system, an election can happen anytime. |
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Kanigo2
User ID: 442313
9/7/2008 4:16 PM
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I can see that I am just a stupid american-- I am completely clueless about canada.
No concept what-so-ever of what happens in our neighbor to the north.
If nobody else will say I will.
We as Americans are lazy and know NoThing about the Canadian Government.
Especially the further south you go-- effing clueless.
I assume that Most Canadians think this is a good thing.
Because I am assuming that it does bring about change sooner than OUR form of government does.
That is what I picked up from this thread so far.
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Grizzled Old Goat
Get off my land..
User ID: 498996
9/7/2008 4:22 PM
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I'm holding my nose and supporting Stephane Dion, at the very least his government would give us subsidies to retro-fit our houses...this will help to lessen our fuel bills.
Whatever happens we must not give power to Stephen Harper, if he had been in power back in the day, we'd have US missile defence outposts throughout the country and Canadian soldiers dying in Iraq. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473581
A big, speculative sack of horse-crap..
Don't forget - it was a LIBERAL government that sent us into Afghanistan, and Gulf War One..
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:30 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I'm holding my nose and supporting Stephane Dion, at the very least his government would give us subsidies to retro-fit our houses...this will help to lessen our fuel bills.
Whatever happens we must not give power to Stephen Harper, if he had been in power back in the day, we'd have US missile defence outposts throughout the country and Canadian soldiers dying in Iraq.
A big, speculative sack of horse-crap..
Don't forget - it was a LIBERAL government that sent us into Afghanistan, and Gulf War One..
:n0tsheep: Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Libs went in for a UN humanitarian mission. Harper brought us to war in the south. 100 dead thanks to him. And a whole batch of enemies for changing our traditional UN peacekeeping role for NATO/US untraditional mischief.
A slight difference,,,
But go make your jails and torture chambers GOAT. We can do better than that... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:34 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
To Canadians (and those who know Canadian Law).
Forgive me that I do not know Canada laws and regulations, but here is the link.
[ link to www.cnn.com]
Can the PM dissolve the government? Is that part of your law there? Is it legal to do? It just doesn't seem koshure to say, "I'm dissovling government." How will the government run when it's "dissolved?"
Again, forgive me for my ignorance on Canadian law. This just seems like a sinister act to an outsider.
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It's standard procedure in a parliamentary democracy. It doesn't mean the entire governement has been overthrown, if that's what you're thinking.
The government "asks" the Governor General to dissolve parliament.
Look that up, your conspiracy juices will really start flowing... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:38 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
If Harper gets a majority we're fucked for good. It will be 5 years before we see the light at the end of the tunnel...
We need an election based on Afgansitan, Health care, Daycare. If Harper and Dion decide to fight the election on which song to sing at hockey games, we'll know it's a set up.
In that case vote NDP and hope for the best... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495803
9/7/2008 4:44 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
To Canadians (and those who know Canadian Law).
Forgive me that I do not know Canada laws and regulations, but here is the link.
[ link to www.cnn.com]
Can the PM dissolve the government? Is that part of your law there? Is it legal to do? It just doesn't seem koshure to say, "I'm dissovling government." How will the government run when it's "dissolved?"
Again, forgive me for my ignorance on Canadian law. This just seems like a sinister act to an outsider.
He obviously thinks his party can win more seats if they have a general election now. In the UK the PM can call an election any time he wants within five years of his party attaining power. Seems like the same is the law in Canada
that is because it basicly british law, he had to ask the queen to disolve parliment |
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Canuck
User ID: 498279
9/7/2008 4:47 PM
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on october 14 fellow canucks , vote liberal, or green party, even ndp... do not vote bloc or conservative. they will sell us out and break up our country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327736
Voting green!!!!!!!!! OR ANYTHING BUT CONSERVATIVE!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 4:49 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I can see that I am just a stupid american-- I am completely clueless about canada.
No concept what-so-ever of what happens in our neighbor to the north.
If nobody else will say I will.
We as Americans are lazy and know NoThing about the Canadian Government.
Especially the further south you go-- effing clueless.
I assume that Most Canadians think this is a good thing.
Because I am assuming that it does bring about change sooner than OUR form of government does.
That is what I picked up from this thread so far. Quoting: Kanigo2
Canadian politics has been screwed since the early 90s. We used to have 3 traditional federal parties, left (social democrat/socialist) right ("progressive" conservative) and center (liberal). If you compared them to the US the political spectrum was decidedly Democrats and leftward. But as in US politics all parties have shifted rightward.
After the last Quebec referendum and the corruption scandals of first the Conservatives and then the Liberals, we had major implosions of both those parties. The progressive conservatives are now reactionary western based, while the libs have lost their Quebec base to the Bloc, and the NDP is seperated itself from organized labour. It's a real mess...
And as always inching toward reality is Quebec and western seperatism and cultural assimilation by the US.
Even 10 years ago Canada has changed tremendously for the worse.
And ten years from now?, I fear it will be unrecognizable... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
word is,.. harper has the bloc in his back pocket ,. they will shift to give him a majority, in return he will finally signing the bill for quebecs independence . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327736
Is that the word? How can the Bloc "shift" to the Conservatives in an election? They need to maintain their viability to win seats. But if they run in Quebec on a deal that was made with Harper, then the Conservatives are toast. I doubt that Harper would be so stupid, or that he would allow the Bloc to make it public.
I havent heard about this , could you elaborate? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 5:04 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
He dissolved Parliment, NOT 'the government'.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471491
Oops! Did Americans actually think this? yes this is entirely correct. And of course Parliament sticks around until after elections to insure an orderly transition... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
This isnt gonna effect hockey is it eh?
It wont! OK, never mind then.
well the montreal canadiens might have to change their name if they separate lol,.. and have to re - apply as a team in the nhl, i doubt theyd get back in. no great loss. then toronto would be the tops in cups!! :) finally Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327736
Oh my! The NHL wouldnt allow Montreal back in, eh?
But then Quebec would make their own league, with their own players and conquer the world...
How embarrassing.... |
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Pile of goo
User ID: 492023
9/7/2008 5:12 PM
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 Well all the conservatives have seemed to do has been institute more laws designed to put people in jail. But we don't have many jails in Canada, thats the way we like it.
Maybe that's the way YOU like it, sheeptard - as for me, build me more jails..
Looking for a new home?
I cant believe how shallow you are GOAT.
"I want more jails".... WTF? I never realized there was a shortage, or are you drooling to fill them up?
Out of Afgansitan now! Number one issue.
And daycare!
Fuck your jails. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495549
I don't want more jails, or daycare(government run brain wasing factories) I want 80 % of the laws taken off the books.
Low taxes
I want my goverment to fuck off and stay out of my life and wallet.
I want true crimes punished painfully , like rape criers and child molesters |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
Yeah, you gotta love our bullshit elections here in Canada. We have 5 different parties to choose from, and only two of which ever have a chance of winning, making the other 3+ irrelevant.
And the worst thing of all is that the Bloc Quebecois is allowed to run in federal elections despite having ZERO seats anywhere besides Quebec and focusing only on Quebec.
Does it make sense to anybody that in a FEDERAL election a party that only talks about Quebec and only cares about Quebec is allowed to run? How is that fair? They're not on MY ballot here in the west, so how can they run in a federal election? It's a vote for leader of the country, not leader of Quebec.
Fucking Quebec. And they wonder why the rest of the country hates their fucking guts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 492376
A party doesnt have to field candidates in all writings across the country. They are entirely within their legal rights. A shrewd tactic. What you may not realize is that they hated the Libs more than most westerners ever did... that's why they did it -- to screw the Lib base in Quebec...
Look at the so called Libs in BC. they call themselves Liberal but are more conservative than Harper's party.
At least the Bloc do not try to trick anyone on who they are. |
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Canuck
User ID: 498279
9/7/2008 5:20 PM
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on october 14 fellow canucks , vote liberal, or green party, even ndp... do not vote bloc or conservative. they will sell us out and break up our country.
Balls. The Liberals are entirely corrupt, the NDP are incompetent to govern, and the Greens don't even have an elected MP.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
The pot calling the kettle black. .. . the conservatives are not entirely lily white. . what about the 2006 campaign spending irregularities they are being investigated for, what about the Chuck Cadman fiasco when they offered him (as an independent, after he left the conservative government) the sum of $1,000,000 to help defeat the Liberal minority government in 2005, what about the dirty trick played on Obama by Mr. Harper's minions.
I would venture to say that one is no more corrupt than the other. . . just in different ways.
I think what some of us really dislike Mr. Harper for is that he is firmly placed in Mr. Bush's back pocket. He is not his own man, he allows himself to be manipulated, that is the sad truth about him.
But of course you are allowed to have your own opinions, like the rest of us.. . .
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495549
9/7/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
Well all the conservatives have seemed to do has been institute more laws designed to put people in jail. But we don't have many jails in Canada, thats the way we like it.
Maybe that's the way YOU like it, sheeptard - as for me, build me more jails..
Looking for a new home?
I cant believe how shallow you are GOAT.
"I want more jails".... WTF? I never realized there was a shortage, or are you drooling to fill them up?
Out of Afgansitan now! Number one issue.
And daycare!
Fuck your jails.
I don't want more jails, or daycare(government run brain wasing factories) I want 80 % of the laws taken off the books.
Low taxes
I want my goverment to fuck off and stay out of my life and wallet.
I want true crimes punished painfully , like rape criers and child molesters Quoting: Pile of goo
I wasnt addressing you. But glad to hear your not a one make more jails monkey.
I have no problem with daycare. It would be cheap and convenient for people who work. That's all... I dont think they would be filled simply because they are there, but would satisfy the demand that already exists...
As another issue I would wish the feds would federalize school buses so that kids everywhere get a god damn ride to school. The patchwork of failed service that exists today is unbelievable.
Punishment befitting the crime. But not making crime schools that make more criminals. We dont need to the State destroying the human spirit out of revenge. That's why we have less crime in Canada...
They need to arm twist the provinces, or those that are misspending federal dollars on health care. I am sick of the inequality in services. The feds hands off approach while provinces break federal laws, is disgusting.
As far as govt staying out of your life? Or 80% laws eliminated? What exactly do you propose? Or do we just rip out the first 80% from the first page onward? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 291772
9/7/2008 5:59 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I'm just glad to see those here at GLP engage in a political discourse. If anything, it opens our minds to how things work and how to "attempt" to change. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493059
9/7/2008 6:11 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
I'm holding my nose and supporting Stephane Dion, at the very least his government would give us subsidies to retro-fit our houses...this will help to lessen our fuel bills.
Whatever happens we must not give power to Stephen Harper, if he had been in power back in the day, we'd have US missile defence outposts throughout the country and Canadian soldiers dying in Iraq.
A big, speculative sack of horse-crap..
Don't forget - it was a LIBERAL government that sent us into Afghanistan, and Gulf War One..
:n0tsheep: Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
No, it was Mulroney and his conservatives that sent us to the gulf war. Harper has flouted the hearings into the election funding scam, he has put a gag order on his MPs, they are afraid to speak with the constituents and the media, the press has been banished and it is the most dictatorial government in my lifetime. And this is what we get with a minority, if they were to get a majority I would leave the country, because we can kiss our sovereignty goodbye if that happens. And I disagree, Trudeau was the best prime minister in my lifetime. He governed in difficult times and good times and kept us separate from the the US and the USSR, we maintained good relationships with both countries. None of the parties today are capable of governing. The Conservatives have shown they are just as corrupt as the Liberals and the NDP is only effective in opposition where all they have to do is criticise and not actually come up with solutions. The Greens are conservatives dressed in green suits. The Canadian Action Party is the only one that is talking about what is important, but they don't have a hope in hell of winning a seat. I will hold my nose and vote liberal, I live in a riding that is traditionally conservative, but this time it is pretty likely that the votes will sway Liberal for the first time in my memory, because of the election funds scandal and the fact that the MP has been hiding from us and voting with Harper instead of the way people that elected him want him to. A lot of people are severely pissed about that. I hope for another minority, winning party doesn't matter, and I hope we get a good showing of independents elected who will actually vote the way their constituents want and not according to some party line. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 478239
9/7/2008 6:12 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
Let the looting Begin..!!  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493059
9/7/2008 6:15 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
on october 14 fellow canucks , vote liberal, or green party, even ndp... do not vote bloc or conservative. they will sell us out and break up our country.
Balls. The Liberals are entirely corrupt, the NDP are incompetent to govern, and the Greens don't even have an elected MP..
The pot calling the kettle black. .. . the conservatives are not entirely lily white. . what about the 2006 campaign spending irregularities they are being investigated for, what about the Chuck Cadman fiasco when they offered him (as an independent, after he left the conservative government) the sum of $1,000,000 to help defeat the Liberal minority government in 2005, what about the dirty trick played on Obama by Mr. Harper's minions.
I would venture to say that one is no more corrupt than the other. . . just in different ways.
I think what some of us really dislike Mr. Harper for is that he is firmly placed in Mr. Bush's back pocket. He is not his own man, he allows himself to be manipulated, that is the sad truth about him.
But of course you are allowed to have your own opinions, like the rest of us.. . . Quoting: Canuck
The difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the liberals sign away our sovereignty and lie to us about it "we would never do that", while the conservatives say "damn right we are signing it away. its for the good of the country". Same agenda though. Same pack of wolves, only their banners are different colors. |
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LouisWinthorpeIII
Self apointed knowitall
User ID: 384893
9/7/2008 6:18 PM
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this is perfectly normal.
It happens all the time.
it's a power play to force a new election and get more seats.
This is normal for parliament, unlike the republic.
Findout when the NWO says you should die!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499179
9/7/2008 6:47 PM | | Re: Canada Dissolves Government!!! | Quote |
The one controversy to all this is that Harper and Parliament passed a law to fix the next election date in late 2009. This was to avoid arbitrary attempts to defeat the govt during the minority govt session. However, harper has ignored this law and called for an election anyways which some feel may be illegal as it blantantly ignores the law which was only recently passed into law earlier this year. Also, there was no actual evidence that parliament was going to be logjammed by the opposition since the parliamentary session had not yet started. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 182625
so Harper passed a law then broke it?
ahahahaha |
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