HFCS as harmful is one of the biggest nonsense things ever on GLP
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499106
Yes you are right!!! We shouldn't be eating either, they're both terrible, non-organic refined (table) sugar and high fructose corn syrup. They are both crap!! So, you are absolutely right!! Thank you for that piece of info!! Nice catch!! Thanks!!
This is the person who posted that HFCS as worse than sugar is bullshit.
Fat is caused by total calories per day, not by HFCS VS Table Sugar. You must count your total calories you intake no matter what the source and form of them are.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499106
So true.
That one dude who was like 800 pounds or more, all from oranges. He act like 50 a day on average, as well as normal meals and thought that would be good for him. The average orange has like 35-40 calories x 50 = 1750, doh! [link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson
Don't forget the obesity problem. It can kill, too.
HFCS and trans fats has more than likely led to the obesity epidemic as well as many other health problems like strokes and heart attacks.
Or, this is just a maybe, or people are more sedate and sedentary and eat way to much?
Could it be that?
Oh HELL NO, it can't be the fat peoples fault they fucking fat, can it, lord no!
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!
Your life.
Your actions.
Be accountable!
Welcome...I expected one of ya....
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497314
cools [link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson
It was originally created to fatten up HOGS / Cattle.
Now the general pop sucks it down...
Quoting: Xare
And so it was... now it is being used to fatten up humans.
Cattle are pretty much hebivores, but HOGS are ominvores like Humans are.. From my days on the Hog farm those that were given fatty Meat along with their other foods, strangely did not fatten up any where as fast as those feed other diets. That in itself says something to me about 'low fat diets' causing Obsesity.
Why don't you give us a little background on yourself so that we might be enlightened..
PS: Thank you for taking the time to deal with us dumb folk!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497314
Thanks for taking the time to be a creative douche, I appreciate that.
You people are not dumb. You have tried to fight the good fight. I usually feel I am the most retarded poster on this forum, and many agree. I just hate and rage when people continue to blame everyone and everything but themselves. So many come up with elaborate schemes and theories when in fact there was no sinister hand behind it, just an apathetic and "satisfied" populace. [link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson
"Sucrose is broken down into its constituent monosaccharides - namely fructose and glucose - in weakly acidic environments by a process called inversion.[citation needed] This same process occurs in the stomach and in the small intestine during the digestion of sucrose into fructose and glucose.[citation needed] People with sucrase deficiency cannot digest (break down) sucrose, and thus exhibit sucrose intolerance." -- wikipedia cititation.
Did you catch that, the "inversion" process? Sucrose is broken down by weak acid into fructose and glucose. The stomach is a high acid environment, so any sucrose you eat (natural honey, cane sugar, etc) gets broken down into fructose and glucose in the "normal" stomach and small intestine. Net product of the reaction is frutcose and glucose. IF you have a sucrase deficiency you can't break the sucrose down into frutcose and glucose, so having that step done outside the body is an aid and not a hinderance. This is the same sort of reason people lacking the enyzmes to extract B-12 from their food get B-12 shots.
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From this logic it would appear that HFCS is in fact reducing what would have been a much higher diabetic rate.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390756
Hmm, do you really know what "sucrose intolerance" is?
"The result of consuming sucrose is excess gas production and often diarrhea and malabsorption."
In other words, no digestion of sucrose takes place. And therefore no absorption of glucose from digested sucrose.
Substituting HFCS would introduce that immediate hit of glucose that we already discussed. So adding HFCS to the diet of a sucrose-intolerant person would increase their potential to develop diabetes, not decrease it.
I see that Agave nectar sold in the stores, anyone tried that? [link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson
Why don't you give us a little background on yourself so that we might be enlightened..
PS: Thank you for taking the time to deal with us dumb folk!
Thanks for taking the time to be a creative douche, I appreciate that.
You people are not dumb. You have tried to fight the good fight. I usually feel I am the most retarded poster on this forum, and many agree. I just hate and rage when people continue to blame everyone and everything but themselves. So many come up with elaborate schemes and theories when in fact there was no sinister hand behind it, just an apathetic and "satisfied" populace.
Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja
Wow....you're slicker than I thought...
I think you know the real issue here is a man-made, sugar-like molecule.
But you try to get us side tracked into other human behavior issues..
HFCS as harmful is one of the biggest nonsense things ever on GLP
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499106
almost.... Carbon Monoxide is almost Carbon Dioxide, but one will silently kill you.
Anyway, at the site mentioned in the commercial, nothing was discussed about how the introduction of HFCS coincides with our national obesity epidemic.
How can they call anything "natural" that is produced by chemistry?
Why don't you give us a little background on yourself so that we might be enlightened..
PS: Thank you for taking the time to deal with us dumb folk!
Thanks for taking the time to be a creative douche, I appreciate that.
You people are not dumb. You have tried to fight the good fight. I usually feel I am the most retarded poster on this forum, and many agree. I just hate and rage when people continue to blame everyone and everything but themselves. So many come up with elaborate schemes and theories when in fact there was no sinister hand behind it, just an apathetic and "satisfied" populace.
Wow....you're slicker than I thought...
I think you know the real issue here is a man-made, sugar-like molecule.
But you try to get us side tracked into other human behavior issues..
Not bad....I'd give you a B+
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497314
OH you wiseguy, you figured me out. DOH!
I am a government-Zetahumping-NWO-bringing-Masonic-reptilian-psyop attempting to control "all that you see and hear"
That has got to be it!
It can be that in making it a "human behavior issue" I might just trick the masses into moving forward and controlling their own destiny. If they think HFCS is an evil product, then they should do something about it.
Oh wait, they already have, way to go masses!
Now more and more products are sweetened with sugar and not HFCS, but wait, people are still getting fat and coming down with type 2 diabetes.
So either, all the food makers are liars, and believe me they just might be after I get through with them, after all i am a government-Zetahumping-NWO-bringing-Masonic-reptilian-psyop, or
PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS!
You eat to much, you get fat, you get diabetes. [link to www.youtube.com]
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson
All you HFCS lovers are just wonderful. I applaud your ignorance and welcome you to gorge yourselves on all foods and drinks with HFCS. Please don't let anyone stop you. You will be more unhealthy and have a shorter life expectancy but please go ahead and enjoy you life of ignorance and while your at it why don't you have a big helping of cloned beef with your genetically modified vegetables. Enjoy!
LouisWinthorpeIII Self apointed knowitall User ID: 384893 9/7/2008 6:43 PM
High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is any of a group of corn syrups which have undergone enzymatic processing in order to increase their fructose content and are then mixed with pure corn syrup (100% glucose) to reach their final form. The typical types of HFCS are: HFCS 90 (used almost exclusively in the production of HFCS 55) which is approximately 90% fructose and 10% glucose; HFCS 55 (most commonly used in soft drinks) which is approximately 55% fructose and 45% glucose; and HFCS 42 (used in a variety of other foods, including baked goods) which is approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.[1]
Cane and beet sugar
Cane sugar and Beet sugar are both relatively pure sucrose. While the glucose and fructose which are the two components of HFCS are monosaccharides, sucrose is a disaccharide composed of glucose and fructose linked together with a relatively weak glycosidic bond. A molecule of sucrose (with a chemical formula of C12H22O11) can be broken down into a molecule of glucose (C6H12O6) plus a molecule of fructose (also C6H12O6 — an isomer of glucose) in a weakly acidic environment[citation needed]. Sucrose is broken down during digestion into fructose and glucose through hydrolysis by the enzyme sucrase, by which the body regulates the rate of sucrose breakdown. Without this regulation mechanism, the body has less control over the rate of sugar absorption into the bloodstream.
Sugar, high-fructose corn syrup and type II diabetes
Sugar and refined carbohydrates are undeniably linked to diabetes. Researchers around the world have come to the conclusion that the consumption of refined sugar is detrimental to the health of people without diabetes and disastrous for those with it. Furthermore, excess sugar in the blood can cause the onset of type 2 diabetes.
[link to www.naturalnews.com]
Sugar is so detrimental to human health that many believe it would fail the FDA approval process if such a hypothetical attempt were made. Refined white flour would fare no better. Both are nutritionally empty substances. According to Dr. Robert C. Atkins, founder of the popular Atkins diet, "Sugar has no nutritional value and is directly harmful to your health. Despite vociferous attempts to defend it, there are studies that clearly show how harmful (and even deadly in the case of diabetics) its effects can be." According to Nancy Appleton, PhD, author of "Lick the Sugar Habit," there are 78 metabolic consequences of consuming sugar. Since the Life Extension Foundation estimates that the average American consumes more than 150 pounds of sugar per year, those 78 metabolic consequences can be considerable.
YES YES YES - FULLY AGREE RE CORN SYRUP DANGERS (also note that most corn is now fully GM so no telling what is happening to our DNA & cells!!!
None of this is by accident imho,,, it is assault on humanity in every possible way to weaken, sicken, kill off the vulnerable, and make control mechanisms easier to implement = NWO Illuminati Agenda.
Thanks for posting this info ... that commercial made steam come out of my ears the other day.
Be aware that various sugar crop vegetables (beets) are now being GENETICALLY MODIFIED and that most of the white sugar (cheaper brands) that is bought in USA is the variety from beets. But have cane sugar is also going GM so a person is must be careful in shopping.
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May 29, 2008 -- How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods
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Whether genetically modified (GM) foods are beneficial or harmful is still controversial, but some people would prefer to avoid them until the evidence is clear. Most foods we eat may contain ingredients derived from genetically modified organisms (GMOs)--everything from baby formula and food to our dairy to even our meat. If you live in Europe, avoiding GM foods is easier since laws require labeling. However in the US and Canada food manufacturers are not required to label if their food is genetically modified or not. As such, here are some guidelines for steering clear of GM foods in your diet, if that is your choice.
Become familiar with the most common applications of genetic modification. These are the products (and their derivatives) that are most likely to be genetically modified:
Soybeans - Gene taken from bacteria (Agrobacterium sp. strain CP4) and inserted into soybeans to make them more resistant to herbicides. How to Live With a Soy Allergy for more information on avoiding soy products.
Corn - Gene from the lepidoptera pathogen microorganism Bacillus thuringiensis inserted into corn genome to produce the Bt toxin, which poisons insect pests. May be present in high fructose corn syrup AKA The white man's poison which is prevalent in a wide variety of foods in America.
Rapeseed/Canola - Gene added/transferred to make crop more resistant to pesticides
Sugar cane - Gene added/transferred to make crop more resistant to pesticides
Rice - Genetically modified to resist herbicides; not currently available for human consumption, but trace amounts of one GM long-grained variety (LLRICE601) may have entered the food supply in the USA and Europe. More recently, golden rice, a different strain of rice has been engineered to produce significantly higher levels of beta carotene, which the body uses to produce vitamin A. Golden rice is still undergoing testing to determine if it is safe for human consumption.
Cotton - Used for making cottonseed oil.
Dairy - Cows injected with GE hormone rBGH/rBST; possibly fed GM grains and hay.
Buy food labeled 100% organic. The US and Canadian governments do not allow manufacturers to label something 100% organic if that food has been genetically modified or been fed genetically modified feed. However, you may find that organic food is more expensive and different in appearance from conventional products. Also, just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GMs. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the labels say 100% organic.
This applies to eggs, as well. Eggs labeled "free-range", "natural", or "cage-free" are not necessarily GE-free; look for eggs to be 100% organic.
Purchase beef that is 100% grass-fed. Most cattle in the U.S. are grass-fed, but spend the last portion of their lives in feedlots where they may be given GM grain, the purpose of which is to increase intramuscular fat and marbling. If you're looking to stay away from GMOs, make sure the cattle were 100% grass-fed or pasture-fed (sometimes referred to as grass-finished or pasture-finished). The same applies to meat from other herbivores such as sheep. There is also the slight possibility that the animals were fed GM alfalfa, although this is less likely if you buy meat locally. With non-ruminants like pigs and poultry that cannot be 100% grass-fed, it's better to look for meat that is 100% organic.
Seek products that are specifically labeled as non-GM or GMO-free. However, it is rare to find products labeled as such. You can also research websites that list companies and foods that do not use genetically modified foods, but be aware that information is often incomplete and conflicting interests may not be declared.
Shop locally. Although more than half of all GM foods are produced in the US, most of it comes from large, industrial farms. By shopping at farmers' markets, signing up for a subscription from a local Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farm, or patronizing a local co-op, you may be able to avoid GM products and possibly save money at the same time.
More and more small farms are offering grains and meat directly to customers, in addition to the usual fare (vegetables, fruit, herbs).
Shopping locally may also give you the opportunity to speak to the farmer and find out how he or she feels about GMOs and whether or not they use them in their own operation.
Buy whole foods. Favor foods that you can cook and prepare yourself, rather than foods that are processed or prepared (e.g. anything that comes in a box or a bag, including fast food). What you lose in convenience, you may recover in money saved and satisfaction gained, as well as increased peace of mind. Try cooking a meal from scratch once or twice a week--you may enjoy it and decide to do it more often.
ALERT: Genetically Engineered Sugar to Hit U.S. in 2008
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Background Information: American Crystal, a large Wyoming-based sugar company and several other leading U.S. sugar providers have announced they will be sourcing their sugar from genetically engineered (GE) sugar beets beginning this year and arriving in stores in 2008. Like GE corn and GE soy, products containing GE sugar will not be labeled as such.
Since half of the granulated sugar in the U.S. comes from sugar beets, a move towards biotech beets marks a dramatic alteration of the U.S. food supply. These sugars, along with GE corn and soy, are found in many conventional food products, so consumers will be exposed to genetically engineered ingredients in just about every non-organic multiple-ingredient product they purchase.
The GE sugar beet is designed to withstand strong doses of Monsanto's controversial broad spectrum Roundup herbicide. Studies indicate farmers planting "Roundup Ready" corn and soy spray large amounts of the herbicide, contaminating both soil and water. Farmers planting GE sugar beets are told they may be able to apply the herbicide up to five times per year. Sugar beets are grown on 1.4 million acres by 12,000 farmers in the U.S. from Oregon to Minnesota.
Meanwhile candy companies like Hershey's are urging farmers not to plant GE sugar beets, noting that consumer surveys suggest resistance to the product. In addition the European Union has not approved GE sugar beets for human consumption.
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