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Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 4:58 PM
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Antibiotic Alternatives
If TSHTF and you have injured people on your hands, what do you do? Do you have a significant stash of antibiotics on hand to treat these medical patients? If not, they might die. What do you do? Before the advent of antibiotics, doctors were still healing people. They knew that there are medicinal herbs that can help. Many native peoples have used these plants for sometimes thousands of years. If you can grow a vegetable garden, you can grow medicinal herbs too. Some of them are even used as kitchen herbs. Grow & dry them now, and store them away for future usage as extracts, infusions, ointments, etc. Of course, don't give anything to children or pregnant mothers without specific medical advice first.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor or naturopath. And I'm not giving medical advice here. Ask a doctor if you want medical advice. This is for informational purposes only)
Echinacea: Used internally or externally. Fights infection & boosts the immune system. Can be used against many different viruses, bacteria and fungi, including skin wounds, snake bites, allergies, insect bites & stings, burns, ear infections, colds, flu, eczema, low white blood cell count, radiation poisoning related immuno deficiencies, sinusitis, urinary tract infections, skin ulcers, staph infections, and sore throats.
It's not to be used with patients with auto-immune disorders as it complicates their condition.
Goldenseal: Used internally. Cleans blood. Fights infection.
Wild Indigo: Used internally or externally. Has antibiotic and immune-stimulating effects, and it has anti-mucous decongestant properties. Works on a wide range of bacteria and fungi, including respiratory tract infections, ear infections, mouth ulcers, gingivitis, and to treat abrasions, skin infections, and wounds. Don't use in large doses as it can be unhealthy to do so.
Myrrh: Used internally & externally. It has a direct antimicrobial effect and is used to treat a wide range of viral, bacterial, and fungal infections, to include respiratory infections, stomach complaints, skin infections, abscesses, boils, sores, wounds, asthma, bronchitis, colds, flu, sinusitis, sore throats, herpes simplex, mouth and throat pain.
Sage: Used internally. It has antibacterial properties and is used to treat mouth and throat inflammation, mouth-throat-tonsil infections, mouth ulcers, diarrhea, gastritis, and enteritis. It makes a good mouthwash and gargle. Long-term or excessive use can be unhealthy. Pregnant women need to stay away from this one.
Thyme: Used internally or externally. It's an antiseptic and used for treating wounds, respiratory infections, coughing (expectorant, anti-spasm), tonsillitis, pharyngitis, laryngitis, bronchitis and asthma. Don't overuse this one as it'll become unhealthy.
Garlic: Used internally or externally. It's an antibiotic and antiseptic for treating wounds, respiratory infections, intestinal parasites and infections such as cholera, dysentary, and typhoid. It also has blood cholesterol lowering and anticancer properties.
Wormwood/Absinthe: Used internally. Has anti-worm properties. Can be used as a local anesthetic. Don't use in large quantities as it then becomes unhealthy. Pregnant women need to stay away from this one.
Thuja: Used internally or externally. Has antiviral and antibacterial properties. Can be used for respiratory tract and digestive tract viruses, as well as warts of all kinds and external fungal infections. It could also be useful for surface wounds and burns. It's also bee known to counteract the ill effects of the smallpox vaccination... If used internally, seek professional medical advice for safety, or use a homeopathic preparation.
These are just a few herbs with proven medicinal uses. There are many more available to use for a wide range of medical problems. Most of the over-the-counter preparations are weak and over-processed, producing weaker results. But if you make these yourself, you can control the concentration and efficacy. To prepare these herbs for use, you have to learn how to make extracts, infusions, ointments, etc. There are many good books on the market that cover everything from growing to preparing herbs for medicinal usage.
Additionally, there are many other medical treatments available for alternative medicine such as Colloidal Silver, homeopathy, nutritional therapy, etc. that can also be utilized. Set yourself up with these natural medicinal options now so that when a serious need arises for antibiotics in a future crisis, you won't have this panicked look on your face. You'll be ready.
- taken from 'Natural Alternatives to Antibiotics', by Dr. John McKenna |
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SouthernLight, nli
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9/7/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
 all good stuff!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499129
9/7/2008 5:15 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Wanted to add one specifically for uninary tract infections, specifically those caused by e-coli.
It's called D-Mannose Powder, which is a simple sugar derived from cranberries. When taken internally, the d-mannose binds to the e-coli making it impossible for the e-coli to remain within the bladder. I used it for an *awful* uti when I had no health insurance and it worked - cleared the infection - within 24 hours. Amazing stuff! |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 5:16 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
thanks!! |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 5:17 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 5:25 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Wanted to add one specifically for uninary tract infections, specifically those caused by e-coli.
It's called D-Mannose Powder, which is a simple sugar derived from cranberries. When taken internally, the d-mannose binds to the e-coli making it impossible for the e-coli to remain within the bladder. I used it for an *awful* uti when I had no health insurance and it worked - cleared the infection - within 24 hours. Amazing stuff! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499129
Thanks for that.....
I wanted to do a post on something I have found to work, but I think the intent of the OP was to relay compounds that would work as a substitute for hard to get items.
One that I've proven to my skeptical mind is Allicin. I'm basically healthy as a horse, but I did have an abscessed tooth....Long story short, it worked as good as tetracyclene (sp) that the dentist gave that ran out...
No affiliation...just an FYI..it is related to garlic in the OP's original post.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499114
9/7/2008 5:28 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
What about BONESET? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499129
9/7/2008 5:42 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Wanted to add one specifically for uninary tract infections, specifically those caused by e-coli.
It's called D-Mannose Powder, which is a simple sugar derived from cranberries. When taken internally, the d-mannose binds to the e-coli making it impossible for the e-coli to remain within the bladder. I used it for an *awful* uti when I had no health insurance and it worked - cleared the infection - within 24 hours. Amazing stuff!
Thanks for that.....
I wanted to do a post on something I have found to work, but I think the intent of the OP was to relay compounds that would work as a substitute for hard to get items. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497314
Considering the fact that 90% of UTI's are caused by e. coli and that antibiotics can be difficult to acquire, d-mannose is an excellent alternative. It's available in many well-stocked health food stores and whole foods type markets, making it far easier to acquire than antibiotics and equally (if not more) effective. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 379016
9/7/2008 5:44 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Great stuff, thank you OP.
(Strange thing: I wanted to vote 5 stars and got a message that I exceeded my limit of 10 votes per 24 hours..???...never happened before) |
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kalamity kool 
User ID: 497383
9/7/2008 5:45 PM
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I'm treating a stubborn sore throat and cough with garlic right now.
Growing a medicinal + wild food garden has been a long held dream for me..one day..
I'm going to stock the seeds for it so I'm ready. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490527
9/7/2008 5:47 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Cloves are great for teeth...
Crushed, powdered or in a poultice, spread liberally on abscess, will sooth pain and fight infection.
Oragel is crap compared to crushed cloves. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495603 (OP)
9/7/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Wanted to add one specifically for uninary tract infections, specifically those caused by e-coli.
It's called D-Mannose Powder, which is a simple sugar derived from cranberries. When taken internally, the d-mannose binds to the e-coli making it impossible for the e-coli to remain within the bladder. I used it for an *awful* uti when I had no health insurance and it worked - cleared the infection - within 24 hours. Amazing stuff!
Thanks for that.....
I wanted to do a post on something I have found to work, but I think the intent of the OP was to relay compounds that would work as a substitute for hard to get items.
One that I've proven to my skeptical mind is Allicin. I'm basically healthy as a horse, but I did have an abscessed tooth....Long story short, it worked as good as tetracyclene (sp) that the dentist gave that ran out...
No affiliation...just an FYI..it is related to garlic in the OP's original post.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497314
Right, allicin is thought to be the active antibacterial ingredient in garlic that makes it work so well. I've heard good things about the allicin compounds sold on the market. There might be other components of garlic however that play into it's antimicrobial properties as well.
I'll check out D-Mannose Powder. I like anything that economical with a long shelf-life that I can stock up on.
But yeah, my focus in the post is to offer antibiotic alternatives that are renewable year after year. As long as you plant non-hybrids, you can keep an endless supply of herbal medicines forever.
And during a Depression or collapse, smart people will be growing vegetables and grains, but who will be growing antibacterial and antiviral medicines? Now that's a barter idea. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495603 (OP)
9/7/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
What about BONESET? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499114
I've heard it's good to have in the herbal kit for fractures, but I don't yet have any specific info on it. |
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[vishuz]
Ganja smoker :]
User ID: 432360
9/7/2008 6:00 PM
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I posted a thread on how marijuana could be used to kill bacteria such as MRSA (something pharma antibiotics currently are usually unable to treat): [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Currently, it's obviously research but there is already knowledge of how cannabis kills old, dying cells thus preventing cancer and other things as well -- at the same time creating completely brand new brain cells that are related to memory (which can relate to the amnesic side effects of a high dose of THC).
[link to myspace.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495603 (OP)
9/7/2008 6:08 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I'm treating a stubborn sore throat and cough with garlic right now.
Growing a medicinal + wild food garden has been a long held dream for me..one day..
I'm going to stock the seeds for it so I'm ready. Quoting: kalamity kool
Most of the herbs listed above should help with this, but the ones I have the most direct experience with are echinacea and garlic. Liquid echinacea seems to work the best.
When sick with respiratory problems, I also take massive amounts of chewable Vitamin C tablets or an ascorbic acid & water mix; as much as can be stomached without a tummy ache.
Zinc lozenges are also helpful, I just don't take them at the same time as the Vit. C due to possible conflicts with absorption.
I take these things after meals for best absorption potential.
But that's just me |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489455
9/7/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Grapeseed oil also helps with infections bot topical and ingested. Works great on fungus. |
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Jdd
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9/7/2008 6:18 PM
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Oil of Oregano is said to be one of, if not THE strongest natural anti-biotics. Get the oil that's at least 85% Carvacrol (the active agent). Don't refrigerate it. Shelf life is 1 to 1-1/2 yrs. About 10 drops in a small glass of OJ will do wonders. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499137
9/7/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I'm treating a stubborn sore throat and cough with garlic right now.
Growing a medicinal + wild food garden has been a long held dream for me..one day..
I'm going to stock the seeds for it so I'm ready. Quoting: kalamity kool
You need to be taking 2-3-4 gms a day of Vit C, as well. Vit C knocks that shit right out. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489455
9/7/2008 6:33 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Grapeseed oil also helps with infections bot topical and ingested. Works great on fungus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489455
Oops, I meant Grapefruit seed extract. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499182
9/7/2008 6:50 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
What about BONESET?
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I've heard it's good to have in the herbal kit for fractures, but I don't yet have any specific info on it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495603
BONESET, used by the Indians, is great for flu, dengue fever, cholera, malaria, and typoid. In one of the books I checked out from the library, it said that it should not fail to overcome the flu. It is an antiviral, an immune booster, and stimulates white blood cells. It may be anti-cancer.
In the old days, it was used for "breakbone fever". That's fever so high your bones ache. I just ordered two bottles because it is effective for the flu and colds.
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kalamity kool
User ID: 497383
9/7/2008 6:53 PM
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I'm treating a stubborn sore throat and cough with garlic right now.
Growing a medicinal + wild food garden has been a long held dream for me..one day..
I'm going to stock the seeds for it so I'm ready.
Most of the herbs listed above should help with this, but the ones I have the most direct experience with are echinacea and garlic. Liquid echinacea seems to work the best.
When sick with respiratory problems, I also take massive amounts of chewable Vitamin C tablets or an ascorbic acid & water mix; as much as can be stomached without a tummy ache.
Zinc lozenges are also helpful, I just don't take them at the same time as the Vit. C due to possible conflicts with absorption.
I take these things after meals for best absorption potential.
But that's just me
Yeah, I have the Vitamin C, but from my experiences with echinacea, I've found it to work better as a preventative.
The zinc lozenges are worth a go..
cough, cough... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 495603 (OP)
9/7/2008 6:56 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
What about BONESET?
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I've heard it's good to have in the herbal kit for fractures, but I don't yet have any specific info on it.
BONESET, used by the Indians, is great for flu, dengue fever, cholera, malaria, and typoid. In one of the books I checked out from the library, it said that it should not fail to overcome the flu. It is an antiviral, an immune booster, and stimulates white blood cells. It may be anti-cancer.
In the old days, it was used for "breakbone fever". That's fever so high your bones ache. I just ordered two bottles because it is effective for the flu and colds.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499182
That's good news. With the threat of another Spanish Flue-like bird flu coming, we need all the anti-flu medicines we can get our hands on. |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 7:00 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
What about BONESET? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499114
The native americans used Boneset to survive the Spanish flu in 1918 that killed millions of people. They named the herb Boneset because the fever made their bones feel like they were breaking. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499190
9/7/2008 7:02 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Don't forget raw honey. It's antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal. I've used it for many things, internally & externally and it has worked.
Has to be raw and the darker the better.
I've put it directly on infected wounds and burns and the infection is gone in no time. I had a severe burn on the whole inside of my hand which I should have gone to doctor or emergency. The skin bubbled and my hand swelled to twice normal size so was a severe burn. But being stubborn as I am I used honey on it instead. And no scars. It healed up in no time. |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 7:03 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
good thread |
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2008 7:30 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
There's also two little prolific weeds that will tend to themselves and are both high in vitamin C. You can eat the leaves of both in salads also.
dandelion: high in vit. C, use tender leaves in salad, tea for colds, dried roots for coffee, flowers for wine.
sweet violets (winter crop): high in vit. C (more than oranges) and vit. A (more than spinach), and leaves also have the same pain relief ingredient that aspirin uses but not as concentrated as aspirin tablet.
I make a concentrated salve out of sweet violet leaves and coconut oil to put on aches and pains, joint, muscle and nerve. Pain relief lasts for a few hours. Doesn't smell good so I usually add some natural fragrance. |
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mercury2
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9/7/2008 7:38 PM
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I made a thread awhile back about the apple cider vinegar based "Plague Tonic" which I have gone through a few batches of. It's vinegar steeped with chopped or grated onions, garlic, hot peppers, ginger, and horseradish. I really like it especially the more it ages.
Here's the thread with the recipe:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I wouldn't want to be without it, I pull out quite an arsenal when I get a cold, I use that stuff and also eat a lot of raw pressed garlic in my meals, take Olive Leaf Extract, colloidal silver, and tons of vitamin C as well as other vitamins.
Wish I had some Grapfruit Seed Extract and some Elderberry Extract too in the natural health supplies I keep on hand. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419054
9/7/2008 8:13 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
all good stuff!!
Thank you, OP! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419054
9/7/2008 8:17 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I'm treating a stubborn sore throat and cough with garlic right now.
Growing a medicinal + wild food garden has been a long held dream for me..one day..
I'm going to stock the seeds for it so I'm ready.
You need to be taking 2-3-4 gms a day of Vit C, as well. Vit C knocks that shit right out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499137
Zinc is especially good for sore throats, especially at the very beginning. It is hard on your stomach, though, so take after eating. One 30 mg. tablet per day is all you need. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 419054
9/7/2008 8:19 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I made a thread awhile back about the apple cider vinegar based "Plague Tonic" which I have gone through a few batches of. It's vinegar steeped with chopped or grated onions, garlic, hot peppers, ginger, and horseradish. I really like it especially the more it ages.
Here's the thread with the recipe:
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Do you remember the plant that Native Americans smoked for asthma? These threads were around the same time. -- thanks if you have the info or a link. |
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jlazarus
just me :)
User ID: 348904
9/7/2008 8:26 PM
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Can't believe no one has Cayenne on here. I've begun using it every day - started after getting a strange bug that left me hurting literally ALL OVER - from head to toe - which was really weird because I NEVER, EVER get sick.....
So, when I did succumb to some weird bug, I started Cayenne Pepper each morning and evening. I am now down to just morning.
But let me tell you - Cayenne will make a sore throat (and I'm talking about the worst sore throat I've ever had) IMMEDIATELY feel better!!!
And then, about 20-30 minutes later, your whole BODY feels better.
I swear I feel about 5 years younger. Been using it about 4 weeks.
I just take about teaspoon or so (well rounded) each morning when I wake up - chase it with water. I found that it's easy if I put the teaspoon of pepper on a cracker, eat the whole cracker and chase with a big glass of water.
I googled it and found that it has a LOT of health benefits....not just the known cardio benefits, but healing properties as well - including fast healing on open wounds - pretty handy stuff!
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