Why do we put so much energy into these elections? The threads have been on and on about Obama and Palin as though our vote really counts, don’t we see it is simply another way to divide us? There are a few posters here that just get into a fury about their chosen candidate and I can’t get past the idea that it is all an illusion. Maybe this is the reason folks go to movies. I figure Shakespeare was right and the world is simply a stage and the men and women are merely players.
Just seems to me that why we are so caught up in the illusion, we’re missing the real events.
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“Those who share in it have no external organization, no badge, no creed, no name. They do not vote, or print, or even meet together. They do not know each other's faces or names. They are united only in a common love of truth, and love of its work. They are of all conditions and constitutions.” (Emerson) A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Hey Eyes!! That is a sad state of affairs no matter who he/she is talking about! A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Totally agree, I dont even look at the politico threads because they are a waste of time.
I wonder what would happen if nobody voted?
The seek to divide us, and the funny thing is it is not a democracy. If it was a true democracy then all ppls would be represented, but as is only 50% of the ppl get their chosen views represented at the highest level. If it was supposed to be honest, then there would be no 'head' guy, and just the congress.
But we wont see that happen Swimming in a sea of fractals
Totally agree, I dont even look at the politico threads because they are a waste of time.
I wonder what would happen if nobody voted?
The seek to divide us, and the funny thing is it is not a democracy. If it was a true democracy then all ppls would be represented, but as is only 50% of the ppl get their chosen views represented at the highest level. If it was supposed to be honest, then there would be no 'head' guy, and just the congress.
But we wont see that happen
Quoting: Paradigm
Paradigm! It makes me a little crazy the way folks get all caught up in it, fervent even!
I figured on a conspiracy site we could see beyond all that crap, but I am often disappointed, oh well, such is life, huh? A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Paradigm! It makes me a little crazy the way folks get all caught up in it, fervent even!
I figured on a conspiracy site we could see beyond all that crap, but I am often disappointed, oh well, such is life, huh?
Quoting: Turtles Know
"fervent" I love that word
Yes it is disappointing, especially with the revelations of Dibold and the past 2 elections, and the numerous accounts of massive payouts from lobbyists.
Makes you wonder why especially alot here would choose to ignore those things and carry on such as they do.
But all I can say is that i know its all bs and i dont aspire to think any other way based on what i know. So let them have their illusion if they want, but it wont get them anywhere but maybe the loss of a little energy.
Why do we put so much energy into these elections? The threads have been on and on about Obama and Palin as though our vote really counts, don’t we see it is simply another way to divide us? There are a few posters here that just get into a fury about their chosen candidate and I can’t get past the idea that it is all an illusion. Maybe this is the reason folks go to movies. I figure Shakespeare was right and the world is simply a stage and the men and women are merely players.
Just seems to me that why we are so caught up in the illusion, we’re missing the real events.
Quoting: Turtles Know
annoying isnt it.especially when they take over the whole forum with their insanity.only good thing about it is flame warring them and making them go even more insane
So true, Turtles. The grand illusion to keep us busy and divided. We're easier to control that way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380499
Frustrating and true, I wonder what we are missing while the newslines are busy with this crap, if I was going to do something underhanded, this would be the time. Luckily, turtles don't get into all the crap, they just keep moving forward, slowly, but forward. A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Paradigm! It makes me a little crazy the way folks get all caught up in it, fervent even!
I figured on a conspiracy site we could see beyond all that crap, but I am often disappointed, oh well, such is life, huh?
"fervent" I love that word
Yes it is disappointing, especially with the revelations of Dibold and the past 2 elections, and the numerous accounts of massive payouts from lobbyists.
Makes you wonder why especially alot here would choose to ignore those things and carry on such as they do.
But all I can say is that i know its all bs and i dont aspire to think any other way based on what i know. So let them have their illusion if they want, but it wont get them anywhere but maybe the loss of a little energy.
Cest la vie
Quoting: Paradigm
Jeeze Paradigm, it's enough to make one a little crazy. It's all I hear and see in the media, and I guess it is disappointing to me that I am seeing it here as well. Thought this was an oasis, you know, a time and place away, outside...
I think this year I will not vote, it's hard to take it seriously anymore. And I'm not sure I should subject myself to the energy that will be thick in our voting places, know what I mean? A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Sheople just love a good Punch and Judy show. They love it how they lay into each other and then the chosen ones then lay it into them.
Quoting: Matrix 495941
About the saddest thing I know to be true. A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Jeeze Paradigm, it's enough to make one a little crazy. It's all I hear and see in the media, and I guess it is disappointing to me that I am seeing it here as well. Thought this was an oasis, you know, a time and place away, outside...
I think this year I will not vote, it's hard to take it seriously anymore. And I'm not sure I should subject myself to the energy that will be thick in our voting places, know what I mean?
Quoting: Turtles Know
I confess, when Ron Paul was right in there I was rooting for him big time and in that respect was right in with that crowd, but when I saw what they did to him in the News and at the debates it solidified it for me that it was all a game. It was never, and has never been fair or ballenced or in the ppls best intrests. And was still the best country for a long time, just think what other countries like Pakistan or Russia is like.
I just try and ignore the posts about this bs here, its unfortunate though because it seems 90% of the threads are about politico. He said/She said.....ugh
So how was your weekend? Swimming in a sea of fractals
Jeeze Paradigm, it's enough to make one a little crazy. It's all I hear and see in the media, and I guess it is disappointing to me that I am seeing it here as well. Thought this was an oasis, you know, a time and place away, outside...
I think this year I will not vote, it's hard to take it seriously anymore. And I'm not sure I should subject myself to the energy that will be thick in our voting places, know what I mean?
I confess, when Ron Paul was right in there I was rooting for him big time and in that respect was right in with that crowd, but when I saw what they did to him in the News and at the debates it solidified it for me that it was all a game. It was never, and has never been fair or ballenced or in the ppls best intrests. And was still the best country for a long time, just think what other countries like Pakistan or Russia is like.
I just try and ignore the posts about this bs here, its unfortunate though because it seems 90% of the threads are about politico. He said/She said.....ugh
So how was your weekend?
Quoting: Paradigm
My weekend was good, we played in a park last night, first set no one was there and I was ready to pack it up, second set we had a nice crowd, the hours had changed cause it's getting darker earlier, so we did a rocking 2nd set and the crowd was appreciative. Usually the park concert is 7-9, changed to 6-8, folks were confused.
This is our local community and I was getting bitchy, we do this stuff for free, but the second set made up for it all. Chris is off in his cave recording some new songs, so looks like I got new stuff to learn soon, good for me, keeps my brain, all four of them (drumming you know, for me only 3 since one foot just holds me up) active an alert.
How was your weekend? We could lament endlessly about the state of affairs in the world, but I'd rather hear about real life. A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
My weekend was good, we played in a park last night, first set no one was there and I was ready to pack it up, second set we had a nice crowd, the hours had changed cause it's getting darker earlier, so we did a rocking 2nd set and the crowd was appreciative. Usually the park concert is 7-9, changed to 6-8, folks were confused.
This is our local community and I was getting bitchy, we do this stuff for free, but the second set made up for it all. Chris is off in his cave recording some new songs, so looks like I got new stuff to learn soon, good for me, keeps my brain, all four of them (drumming you know, for me only 3 since one foot just holds me up) active an alert.
How was your weekend? We could lament endlessly about the state of affairs in the world, but I'd rather hear about real life.
Quoting: Turtles Know
That sux no one was there for you first set, but im glad your second set went well. Thats very nice you do it for free, but those are the kinds of things that make a community.
lol, thats a great way to put it, i never thought of it like that, but your right, each one is concentrating on something different. I suppose guitar is like that but I dont really notice it anymore, it kinda just flows, but then again I dont sing so that leaves me more room to concentrate on playing.
Good, had a drink or 12 lol, cut the grass, got some of the house ready for the winter, put down a tune that needs to be polished and put to pictures. And tonight I get to fix my boys first school lunch...so im a bit excited about that. Other then that, I relaxed, might as well before I go back to school. Swimming in a sea of fractals
Why do we put so much energy into these elections? The threads have been on and on about Obama and Palin as though our vote really counts, don’t we see it is simply another way to divide us? There are a few posters here that just get into a fury about their chosen candidate and I can’t get past the idea that it is all an illusion. Maybe this is the reason folks go to movies. I figure Shakespeare was right and the world is simply a stage and the men and women are merely players.
Just seems to me that why we are so caught up in the illusion, we’re missing the real events.
Quoting: Turtles Know
Thank "YOU" Turpin Turtle!
Permit me to add to your statement.....
As the Word continues to spreads like a wild-fire, “Those who share in it have no external organization, no badge, no creed, no name. They do not vote, or print, or even meet together. They do not know each other's faces or names. They are united only in a common love of truth, and love of its work. They are of all conditions and constitutions.” (Emerson)
My weekend was good, we played in a park last night, first set no one was there and I was ready to pack it up, second set we had a nice crowd, the hours had changed cause it's getting darker earlier, so we did a rocking 2nd set and the crowd was appreciative. Usually the park concert is 7-9, changed to 6-8, folks were confused.
This is our local community and I was getting bitchy, we do this stuff for free, but the second set made up for it all. Chris is off in his cave recording some new songs, so looks like I got new stuff to learn soon, good for me, keeps my brain, all four of them (drumming you know, for me only 3 since one foot just holds me up) active an alert.
How was your weekend? We could lament endlessly about the state of affairs in the world, but I'd rather hear about real life.
That sux no one was there for you first set, but im glad your second set went well. Thats very nice you do it for free, but those are the kinds of things that make a community.
lol, thats a great way to put it, i never thought of it like that, but your right, each one is concentrating on something different. I suppose guitar is like that but I dont really notice it anymore, it kinda just flows, but then again I dont sing so that leaves me more room to concentrate on playing.
Good, had a drink or 12 lol, cut the grass, got some of the house ready for the winter, put down a tune that needs to be polished and put to pictures. And tonight I get to fix my boys first school lunch...so im a bit excited about that. Other then that, I relaxed, might as well before I go back to school.
Quoting: Paradigm
There is nothing like a drink after cutting the grass, yum. Sitting outside and seeing what you have achieved, nothing like it!
I'm trying to prepare the house for the next freaking storm, Fay left us 8+ inches of rain and I was biting my nails hoping the drainages ditches did their thing, I need to clear those things out!
Kids, schools and lunches make me ache a bit, I miss all that. Man, enjoy every moment. Like I said last night makes me a bit envious... take lots of pictures!!
What are you going to school for? That's very cool, I love learning!
And Holy Shit, just found out I'm going to be in a commercial, arrgh! I can do it, that's what I've been telling myself for the 4 years I've been in this band. Holy crap, I'll send you a copy.
Life is freaking amazing, strange and weird, we should enjoy it! A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
Why do we put so much energy into these elections? The threads have been on and on about Obama and Palin as though our vote really counts, don’t we see it is simply another way to divide us? There are a few posters here that just get into a fury about their chosen candidate and I can’t get past the idea that it is all an illusion. Maybe this is the reason folks go to movies. I figure Shakespeare was right and the world is simply a stage and the men and women are merely players.
Just seems to me that why we are so caught up in the illusion, we’re missing the real events.
Thank "YOU" Turpin Turtle!
Permit me to add to your statement.....
As the Word continues to spreads like a wild-fire, “Those who share in it have no external organization, no badge, no creed, no name. They do not vote, or print, or even meet together. They do not know each other's faces or names. They are united only in a common love of truth, and love of its work. They are of all conditions and constitutions.” (Emerson)
Quoting: Troll Patrol 498907
Excellent, allow me to add it to the Original Post! A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
There is nothing like a drink after cutting the grass, yum. Sitting outside and seeing what you have achieved, nothing like it!
I'm trying to prepare the house for the next freaking storm, Fay left us 8+ inches of rain and I was biting my nails hoping the drainages ditches did their thing, I need to clear those things out!
Kids, schools and lunches make me ache a bit, I miss all that. Man, enjoy every moment. Like I said last night makes me a bit envious... take lots of pictures!!
What are you going to school for? That's very cool, I love learning!
And Holy Shit, just found out I'm going to be in a commercial, arrgh! I can do it, that's what I've been telling myself for the 4 years I've been in this band. Holy crap, I'll send you a copy.
Life is freaking amazing, strange and weird, we should enjoy it!
Quoting: Turtles Know
Well my drinks were on here partying, but i do love that feeling of satisfaction.
Hope everything is all right, we have had enough devastation because of those damn storms.
Im going through for electrical, good pay and way better hours....and pay then being a Chef. I love cooking, i just dont like the industry.
Thats awesome! Whats the commercial for, I think it was a car company that your husband sold that song to wasnt it? Sweet, ill favorite on YT when you put it up.
Indeed, life is magical, if we only stop to appreciate it Swimming in a sea of fractals
Why do we put so much energy into these elections? The threads have been on and on about Obama and Palin as though our vote really counts, don’t we see it is simply another way to divide us? There are a few posters here that just get into a fury about their chosen candidate and I can’t get past the idea that it is all an illusion. Maybe this is the reason folks go to movies. I figure Shakespeare was right and the world is simply a stage and the men and women are merely players.
Just seems to me that why we are so caught up in the illusion, we’re missing the real events.
Thank "YOU" Turpin Turtle!
Permit me to add to your statement.....
As the Word continues to spreads like a wild-fire, “Those who share in it have no external organization, no badge, no creed, no name. They do not vote, or print, or even meet together. They do not know each other's faces or names. They are united only in a common love of truth, and love of its work. They are of all conditions and constitutions.” (Emerson)
Excellent, allow me to add it to the Original Post!
There is nothing like a drink after cutting the grass, yum. Sitting outside and seeing what you have achieved, nothing like it!
I'm trying to prepare the house for the next freaking storm, Fay left us 8+ inches of rain and I was biting my nails hoping the drainages ditches did their thing, I need to clear those things out!
Kids, schools and lunches make me ache a bit, I miss all that. Man, enjoy every moment. Like I said last night makes me a bit envious... take lots of pictures!!
What are you going to school for? That's very cool, I love learning!
And Holy Shit, just found out I'm going to be in a commercial, arrgh! I can do it, that's what I've been telling myself for the 4 years I've been in this band. Holy crap, I'll send you a copy.
Life is freaking amazing, strange and weird, we should enjoy it!
Well my drinks were on here partying, but i do love that feeling of satisfaction.
Hope everything is all right, we have had enough devastation because of those damn storms.
Im going through for electrical, good pay and way better hours....and pay then being a Chef. I love cooking, i just dont like the industry.
Thats awesome! Whats the commercial for, I think it was a car company that your husband sold that song to wasnt it? Sweet, ill favorite on YT when you put it up.
Indeed, life is magical, if we only stop to appreciate it
Quoting: Paradigm
OMG!! You cook! Man we need to exchange emails so I can hit you up for info. That is so cool! But I understand how electric is better when there are kids in the house.
I actually worked in the electric field back in the day. I was an electrician's helper for a while, before the Clarence Thomas hearings, which changed the whole scope of things. After too much sexual harrassment, I went back to delivery of electrical supplies. Actually one of my best jobs, nobody hanging over my shoulder and lots of activity to keep me in shape and once the guys on the site understood I could actually handle and unload that stuff, they started helping, nice.
Of course you are right, the car guy thought the way I played drums was a gimmick, but then he kept looking at videos and discovered that was actually the way I did it. So... now he wants to put us in his commercials. They are really goofy commercials, right up our alley, cause we are, indeed, goofy.
Life is good, but sometimes I think I am at a crossroad, where I need to decide if I am going to go forward or just pass, I think I'm going forward. A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
OMG!! You cook! Man we need to exchange emails so I can hit you up for info. That is so cool! But I understand how electric is better when there are kids in the house.
I actually worked in the electric field back in the day. I was an electrician's helper for a while, before the Clarence Thomas hearings, which changed the whole scope of things. After too much sexual harrassment, I went back to delivery of electrical supplies. Actually one of my best jobs, nobody hanging over my shoulder and lots of activity to keep me in shape and once the guys on the site understood I could actually handle and unload that stuff, they started helping, nice.
Of course you are right, the car guy thought the way I played drums was a gimmick, but then he kept looking at videos and discovered that was actually the way I did it. So... now he wants to put us in his commercials. They are really goofy commercials, right up our alley, cause we are, indeed, goofy.
Life is good, but sometimes I think I am at a crossroad, where I need to decide if I am going to go forward or just pass, I think I'm going forward.
Quoting: Turtles Know
Yep 2 years of Chef college. I can cook up a fucking storm Fo Sho, ill PM you with my e-mail.
I know how you feel, I think particularly right now at this time there are alot of ppl that are sort of in limbo, just feels like there is something big comming down the road. But all we can really do is make every moment as beautiful as possible so they will be worth remembering. Swimming in a sea of fractals
Hey Eyes!! That is a sad state of affairs no matter who he/she is talking about!
Quoting: Turtles Know
I thought that was a guy.
You know, one of those girly guys that wears makeup and dresses like a vampire (for some strange reason). It is stated that one mans garbage is another mans treasure. I submit to you that the same can be said for information or knowledge. What is truth and religion to one man is a conpsiracy to another; and to another, that information could be utter nonsense.
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Paradigm Just a guy User ID: 497400 9/7/2008 10:00 PM
I agree with you. Peoples votes DO NOT count. Even if there are NO conspiracies, people still DO NOT get a choice with the president and vice president. The US constitution is very clear.
We really are not required to have political parties. Thus, I agree with your statements about these things being divided.
A house against itself cannot stand. The hidden hand has been dividing us for the past century to weaken and conquer us. I'm hopeful we'll ban together soon one day. It is stated that one mans garbage is another mans treasure. I submit to you that the same can be said for information or knowledge. What is truth and religion to one man is a conpsiracy to another; and to another, that information could be utter nonsense.
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