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Obama admits muslim faith on abc news

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The Paraclete, defender of human rights
User ID: 433953
9/8/2008 10:59 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

According to snopes.com:

"Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro)."

So ...
He is fifty percent white.
He is forty-three and three-fourths percent Arab.
He is six and one-fourth percent African Negro.

Now...
"White" isn't black.
"Arabic" isn't black.

That leaves six and one-fourth percent of him as "black".

Now I think it's wonderful that a person with some black ancestry has become so successful. However, he is not the only one of black ancestry in ths nation to become successful ... we can name hundreds if not thousands of black and part-black success stories in this great USA.

That us not the point here.

The issue I have is:

1. Why does he portray himself as a "black candidate"?
If he is elected, he will be our first Arab-American president.

2. Is he Muslim?
Now I don't care if someone is Lutherin, Methodist, Assemblies of God, Catholic, Amish, Mormon, Baptist, Quaker, et al ... these are all Christian religions, and like it or not, the vast majority of our populace is Christian. And I am absolutely certain the vast majority of Christians are interested in whether or not this presidential candidate is a Christian or a Muslim. If he is not a Christian, and just masquarading as one (which is sanctioned in Islamic Law ... it's fine to lie to non-Muslims in order to further the faith of Islam). then the American voting public has not only a right to know that ... it is essential that we know that.

3. Where was he born?
We are not talking about the son of a military man, born on a military base.
We are talking about a presidential candidate possibly born in a muslim country to muslim parents, and schooled in a muslim madrassa.

Big difference!!!

If he has lied about his place of birth ...
if he has lied about his true faith ...
if he lies about his true ancestry ...
then how can we believe anything he says?

.
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Anonymous Coward
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9/8/2008 10:59 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436143
9/8/2008 11:02 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

O

Yeah, and even if he's not a muslim, he still spent the last 20 years listening to that insane preacher from his Christian church.

You got him either way right?

Anyone who thinks Obama is a muslim is an ignorant fool unable to discern meaning and intention or reality from conservative fiction.

My wife and I watched that interview and predicted this crap would happen. We knew the evil conservative lies would follow. Twisted conservative BS never ends. Anything to win.

I am sick of you ignorant twisted hypocrites. I Don't know what you are doing here.

You all need to move to Alaska and succeed from the union.

O
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499560


Haha! You're right on target there! I deal with a majority of repugs where I work, and hear the lies and propaganda all the time. Sickens me to no end! What's good though is they are digging themselves in deeper and deeper.
Jezz of Bell
User ID: 456868
9/8/2008 11:04 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Fabulous our fate is in the hands of:

A: shell shocked Vietnam war mongal with a potty mouth
B: A Liar


crap.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436143
9/8/2008 11:04 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

According to snopes.com:

"Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro)."

So ...
He is fifty percent white.
He is forty-three and three-fourths percent Arab.
He is six and one-fourth percent African Negro.

Now...
"White" isn't black.
"Arabic" isn't black.

That leaves six and one-fourth percent of him as "black".

Now I think it's wonderful that a person with some black ancestry has become so successful. However, he is not the only one of black ancestry in ths nation to become successful ... we can name hundreds if not thousands of black and part-black success stories in this great USA.

That us not the point here.

The issue I have is:

1. Why does he portray himself as a "black candidate"?
If he is elected, he will be our first Arab-American president.

2. Is he Muslim?
Now I don't care if someone is Lutherin, Methodist, Assemblies of God, Catholic, Amish, Mormon, Baptist, Quaker, et al ... these are all Christian religions, and like it or not, the vast majority of our populace is Christian. And I am absolutely certain the vast majority of Christians are interested in whether or not this presidential candidate is a Christian or a Muslim. If he is not a Christian, and just masquarading as one (which is sanctioned in Islamic Law ... it's fine to lie to non-Muslims in order to further the faith of Islam). then the American voting public has not only a right to know that ... it is essential that we know that.

3. Where was he born?
We are not talking about the son of a military man, born on a military base.
We are talking about a presidential candidate possibly born in a muslim country to muslim parents, and schooled in a muslim madrassa.

Big difference!!!

If he has lied about his place of birth ...
if he has lied about his true faith ...
if he lies about his true ancestry ...
then how can we believe anything he says?

.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496558
 Quoting: Lotus Feet



Lotus, you owe yourself to sit down, close your eyes and try to forget everything you know, or have heard, seen.
Imagine McCain AND Obama are from Mars. Then figure out what they both stand for, on issues. You have allowed yourself to get so caught up on the propaganda campaign, and would rather believe a lie than persue the truth.
IcemanRIP
User ID: 488967
9/8/2008 11:08 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

And here is why Obama is who he is, soon all will be revealed.

Anti-Christ, Son of Perdition, Iman Mahdi, Ja-Bu-Lon.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:13 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Lotus, you owe yourself to sit down, close your eyes and try to forget everything you know, or have heard, seen.
Imagine McCain AND Obama are from Mars. Then figure out what they both stand for, on issues. You have allowed yourself to get so caught up on the propaganda campaign, and would rather believe a lie than persue the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436143



No, I think Lotus discerns wisely that Obama is not what he is attempting to appear to be.

Not that the repubs are the savior - but Obama presents like the Messiah - which he is NOT!

The man has some dangerous ideas, and when he doesn't have cue cards to read from, he doesn't seem to be able to present them without exposing them for what they are and scaring the crap out of people.
He Be Lying
User ID: 146116
9/8/2008 11:15 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I don't care if Obama's faith is in the Tooth Fairy or the Great Pumpkin. What bugs me is that he claims to be a "christian" but publically mocks the Sermon on the Mount. So he is a liar and a poseur.

goaway
God
User ID: 493999
9/8/2008 11:16 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Get off the religion kick. Don't you realize 'They' use it to divide and separate us?

I wish people would wake up to the fact that ALL religions as we know them today are man made!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 429245



THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH..........
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490527
9/8/2008 11:16 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I love the fact that complete fabrications about Palin go un-checked. But, CATCH OBAMA SAYING SOMETHING FROM HIS OWN GOD DAMNED MOUTH, and the libitards go nuts.
Fuck you!

OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, HE IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. AND HALF OF YOU PPL ARE TOO FRIGGIN STUPID TO REALIZE IT.


SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING A MUSLIM????


Oh, nothing, nothing...

:Iranst0nin: :j1had122: :execut1on:
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



BTW...not that you care but your first picture is a fraud...

It's a still from a dutch propaganda film and the "buried woman" is a dutch actress...

Won't matter to you, but you should be aware of the propaganda.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:17 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I don't care if Obama's faith is in the Tooth Fairy or the Great Pumpkin. What bugs me is that he claims to be a "christian" but publically mocks the Sermon on the Mount. So he is a liar and a poseur.

goaway
 Quoting: He Be Lying 146116


I'm not challenging you - I really want to know...he mocked the Sermon on the Mount?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 29200
9/8/2008 11:17 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

The fact is that he is a liar. ... he plays fast and loose with the truth.
 Quoting: 19.47™ 6933


Good God. He is a politician. What do you expect?

They ALL lie.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491704
9/8/2008 11:18 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Muslims are religious people and don't believe in harming anyone unless they harm them are you any different then that?




^^^^^^ what planet do you live on....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 29200
9/8/2008 11:19 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Fabulous our fate is in the hands of:

A: shell shocked Vietnam war mongal with a potty mouth
B: A Liar


crap.
 Quoting: Jezz of Bell 456868

There are other people running for the presidency out there.
NIBIRU2012
User ID: 497803
9/8/2008 11:19 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

According to snopes.com:

"Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro)."

So ...
He is fifty percent white.
He is forty-three and three-fourths percent Arab.
He is six and one-fourth percent African Negro.

Now...
"White" isn't black.
"Arabic" isn't black.

That leaves six and one-fourth percent of him as "black".

Now I think it's wonderful that a person with some black ancestry has become so successful. However, he is not the only one of black ancestry in ths nation to become successful ... we can name hundreds if not thousands of black and part-black success stories in this great USA.

That us not the point here.

The issue I have is:

1. Why does he portray himself as a "black candidate"?
If he is elected, he will be our first Arab-American president.

2. Is he Muslim?
Now I don't care if someone is Lutherin, Methodist, Assemblies of God, Catholic, Amish, Mormon, Baptist, Quaker, et al ... these are all Christian religions, and like it or not, the vast majority of our populace is Christian. And I am absolutely certain the vast majority of Christians are interested in whether or not this presidential candidate is a Christian or a Muslim. If he is not a Christian, and just masquarading as one (which is sanctioned in Islamic Law ... it's fine to lie to non-Muslims in order to further the faith of Islam). then the American voting public has not only a right to know that ... it is essential that we know that.

3. Where was he born?
We are not talking about the son of a military man, born on a military base.
We are talking about a presidential candidate possibly born in a muslim country to muslim parents, and schooled in a muslim madrassa.

Big difference!!!

If he has lied about his place of birth ...
if he has lied about his true faith ...
if he lies about his true ancestry ...
then how can we believe anything he says?

.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496558
 Quoting: Lotus Feet
1st i to add that he did make a slip, not good, 2nd negro?? no one uses that word in todays world. 3rd funny how the media never mention to the fact he's more white than anything else. rant
Nibiru is coming are you ready? :eq:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:21 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

The fact is that he is a liar. ... he plays fast and loose with the truth.


Good God. He is a politician. What do you expect?

They ALL lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29200



True. However, that does not justify him or give him a pass from being called on it.

What do we expect...the same thing he's preaching.

CHANGE
childoflight
User ID: 281980
9/8/2008 11:23 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Is anyone here old enough to remember the fuss that was made in the 1960's about President Kennedy while he was running for office? The populace spent hours trying to decide if a CATHOLIC could ever be elected!I have no doubt that when Barack was a little boy that if his Step-Dad was a Muslim then he would have raised Barack in that faith. Most parents do that with the best of intentions. My father for example decided at the time of my birth that I would be a Quaker. I decided that this was not for me as I grew older, and, although I believe in God/Great Spirit I try to practice as a good Buddhist would. The Quakers, and this is true, EXCOMMUNICATED me at the age of 21 because of non-attendance since the age of 8! They even sent a certificate which I ripped up though I wish I had saved it!Barack, I believe, decided later in life that he wanted to be a Christian.There are many roads to Rome. What is most important in life is that we are compassionate.I don't think it matters what religion one espouses but what is important is that our leader is kind and looks out for us all equally regardless of race, religion,sex etc etc etc....It is of EXTREME IMPOTRTANCE that our leader does not allow him/herself to be CORRUPTED BY POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!after election to office! Sadly i hft happens so very easily to so many. Jack Abrahamson still does not understand what it is that he did wrong!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:31 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Fabulous our fate is in the hands of:

A: shell shocked Vietnam war mongal with a potty mouth
B: A Liar


crap.

There are other people running for the presidency out there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29200



Yes, but none of these has a prayer. The system must be overhauled.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499585
9/8/2008 11:32 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Obama is known to be not too bright, homosexual, lazy, a british agent, a puppet of brit agent zbig.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:35 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Is anyone here old enough to remember the fuss that was made in the 1960's about President Kennedy while he was running for office? The populace spent hours trying to decide if a CATHOLIC could ever be elected!I have no doubt that when Barack was a little boy that if his Step-Dad was a Muslim then he would have raised Barack in that faith. Most parents do that with the best of intentions. My father for example decided at the time of my birth that I would be a Quaker. I decided that this was not for me as I grew older, and, although I believe in God/Great Spirit I try to practice as a good Buddhist would. The Quakers, and this is true, EXCOMMUNICATED me at the age of 21 because of non-attendance since the age of 8! They even sent a certificate which I ripped up though I wish I had saved it!Barack, I believe, decided later in life that he wanted to be a Christian.There are many roads to Rome. What is most important in life is that we are compassionate.I don't think it matters what religion one espouses but what is important is that our leader is kind and looks out for us all equally regardless of race, religion,sex etc etc etc....It is of EXTREME IMPOTRTANCE that our leader does not allow him/herself to be CORRUPTED BY POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!after election to office! Sadly i hft happens so very easily to so many. Jack Abrahamson still does not understand what it is that he did wrong!!!!!!
 Quoting: childoflight 281980



My friend, that's a cool story, but it has little to do with Obama.

If he was raised Muslim and converted to Christianity, he should just say so. The facts of his history should back it up.

As it stands, he claims he went to Catholic school and has been a Christian for most of his life. The facts of his history should back it up. Perhaps they do, but his pastor preaches things I don't associate (even remotely) with the love of Christ.

That's all, it's that simple.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499566
9/8/2008 11:37 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

The more I read these political threads on GLP, the more I laugh. You probably don't even realize why.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 125715
9/8/2008 11:38 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

Muslims are religious people and don't believe in harming anyone unless they harm them are you any different then that?




^^^^^^ what planet do you live on....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491704



You really have studied the history of Islam, have you? Back to school, babe, your ignorance is showing.

Keep in mind, anyone who says such tripe about any religion hasn't studied the history of religions. Even Budhism, when it went into Tibet, showed its very shady side. Regigion isn't only about having people on their knees praying. It is also about the aggregation of power and resources - without exception. "...don't believe in harming anyone..." - Holy Monkeybutt help us.
redd
User ID: 231295
9/8/2008 11:38 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

u racist pigs!! even if he were muslim, what the fuck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 444878

Not only that we are human and we make slips of the tongue, even typos on the keyboard. This is really sad. People are leaving America by the droves because they say it has become a cesspool of evil, vile and racist people. And that Obama is crazy to even want to be president of a nation that is regressing into the dark ages and run by neanderthals who are clearly insane. The economy is taking, climate change is burying this nation and will do moreso in the very near future and these idiots don't get that muslim nations are rising and are the number one investment for businesses that used to operate in the west. Dubai is welcoming investors from all over and these nuts can only whine about who's a muslim. What a sick pathetic group.red
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491996
9/8/2008 11:39 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

"you are absolutely right that John McCain hasn't talked about my Muslim faith"

how the fuck is that an admission

taking things out of context are we????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10627


So Obama mispoke, for a change. This is not an admission of anything. To call this an admission is a huge distortion of the actual conversation. But that is exactly what the Republicans are good at-distortion.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 482624
9/8/2008 11:40 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I love the fact that complete fabrications about Palin go un-checked. But, CATCH OBAMA SAYING SOMETHING FROM HIS OWN GOD DAMNED MOUTH, and the libitards go nuts.
Fuck you!

OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, HE IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. AND HALF OF YOU PPL ARE TOO FRIGGIN STUPID TO REALIZE IT.
 Quoting: Cunning_linguist


Indeed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/8/2008 11:40 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

u racist pigs!! even if he were muslim, what the fuck!

Not only that we are human and we make slips of the tongue, even typos on the keyboard. This is really sad. People are leaving America by the droves because they say it has become a cesspool of evil, vile and racist people. And that Obama is crazy to even want to be president of a nation that is regressing into the dark ages and run by neanderthals who are clearly insane. The economy is taking, climate change is burying this nation and will do moreso in the very near future and these idiots don't get that muslim nations are rising and are the number one investment for businesses that used to operate in the west. Dubai is welcoming investors from all over and these nuts can only whine about who's a muslim. What a sick pathetic group.red
 Quoting: redd 231295



Cite figures for people leaving, please...

People are COMING to America in DROVES.

The issue - again - is not whether or not he is a muslim, but whether or not he is a big fat liar.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402164
9/8/2008 11:44 AM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

What is funny to me is that:
1. There is only one party.
2. The President is picked well in advance of the election.
3. The campaign is like watching WWF Wrestling, they battle in the ring, but then you see them at the diner later eating together and laughing.

In order to see the truth, we have to see through the lies.
childoflight
User ID: 281980
9/8/2008 12:04 PM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I agree with you in regards his Pastor!Thankfully Barack, admittedly under some pressure, has now left that church, and the Pastor has retired. I would be extremely interested to find out whether or not Barack was present during the sermons in question.If he was and if he wasn't sleeping he should immediately, in my opinion ,have parted company with that church!He should also have tried to have had the Pastor fired as should the rest of the rather large congregation!To sit and listen without taking any action, in an incendiary situation like that worries me more about Barack than anything else does.I would like to see him interviewed on that issue.I will however,still be voting for him in the Fall but hope that he has learned a lesson from all of this this.To listen without comment implies consent.The place of the Church is to foster love between all mankind,and not hatred.As an aside did anyone see the rather fawning interview that Bill Moyers did on PBS with the Pastor just as he was retiring. I saw a very different side of him. A rather Machiavellian personality but not one suited to a man of God in my opinion.
Pondlady02
User ID: 355072
9/8/2008 12:18 PM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

I love the fact that complete fabrications about Palin go un-checked. But, CATCH OBAMA SAYING SOMETHING FROM HIS OWN GOD DAMNED MOUTH, and the libitards go nuts.
Fuck you!

OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, HE IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. AND HALF OF YOU PPL ARE TOO FRIGGIN STUPID TO REALIZE IT.
 Quoting: Cunning_linguist

hf 5a bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499560
9/8/2008 12:18 PM
Re: Obama admits muslim faith on abc newsQuote

O


CHRISTIANS ARE NO BETTER THAN MUSLIMS

FANATICISM IS FANATICISM

Better to be a reasonable, logical Muslim that also believes in science than a crazy Christian ignorant of reason and evidence, hell bent on the merger of church and state.

Who are the insane Talibanesque radicals now? In America, we call them the "Christian Right".

The danger comes not from religion itself, but from fanaticism and believing its right to attempt to force others to adopt and conform to your beliefs.

Funny how some can generalize terrorism to Muslim so easily but fail to see the larger picture and the cognitive mechanisms that that are in play.

Throughout history Christians have a much higher rate of committing mass murder than Muslims.

Actually, more people have been murdered in the name of Jesus than have died from all disease combined.

O
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