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Let's all vote for Jesus to get us outta here
Let's all vote for Jesus to get us outta here

Many of you may not know, how cool Jesus really is.

If we all say we were wrong and we agree all the stuff man did is messed up (this is easy since we inherited since we were born after 1900) and say, Lord, Please get us outta this mess.

Show us your plan... and we'll get joined to it somehow.. we'll go along.

Im not talkin about what we have heard 'churches' say all these years...

Im talking about the real thing! Whatever idea/plan Jesus has to get us outta this.. lets extend it to EVERYONE - please start thinking that way (its not an exclusive club), and then more of us will hear and get clues of what Jesus' plan is....

I know it has to do with getting on board the love train... i think just changing our hearts enough to INCLUDE EVERYONE is a huge start to opening up to hear more Divine guidance


we can do this..
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True believers wait in joyful hope for His return.

False believers wait in vain hope for worldly riches, comforts, and conveniences.
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Wouldn't that be "avoiding your own responsibility's", and looking for another to do it for you???
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help yourself; don't wait to be rescued by an enlightened human who died 2000 yrs ago.
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Jesus is dead, help yourself
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Let's all vote for Jesus to get us outta here

Many of you may not know, how cool Jesus really is.

If we all say we were wrong and we agree all the stuff man did is messed up (this is easy since we inherited since we were born after 1900) and say, Lord, Please get us outta this mess.

Show us your plan... and we'll get joined to it somehow.. we'll go along.

Im not talkin about what we have heard 'churches' say all these years...

Im talking about the real thing! Whatever idea/plan Jesus has to get us outta this.. lets extend it to EVERYONE - please start thinking that way (its not an exclusive club), and then more of us will hear and get clues of what Jesus' plan is....

I know it has to do with getting on board the love train... i think just changing our hearts enough to INCLUDE EVERYONE is a huge start to opening up to hear more Divine guidance


we can do this..
 Quoting: Me114



Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but your jesus is not as your so called holy scriptures portray!!
Your jesus is not the son of the TRUE CREATOR who sacrificed himself for humans!! If indeed their was a fall, and this sacrifice was to lift humankind back to his pre-fallen state, why is it grasshopper, are we still fallen?

There was no fall!!

See:
There Was No Fall Of Humankind In Eden!!!
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Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
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This is the fall.
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People! take responsibility for yourselves and stop putting it all on this Jesus guy to pull your ass out of the fire.
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True believers wait in joyful hope for His return.

False believers wait in vain hope for worldly riches, comforts, and conveniences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501084



nevermind about false believers or infidels or evil people even..

nevermind
all is forgiven
forget about it

the Ark of Faith is open to all, step right in

u want outta this mess? Jesus got the door open

nevermind all of man's rules and regulations and stipulations and if this then thats.. FORGET IT! REMOVE ALL THE BLOCKS

come in freely

if the people who love God now, will PLEASE, do this, PLEASE step out of HIS WAY, so HE CAN SAVE ALL THE KIDS!
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People! take responsibility for yourselves and stop putting it all on this Jesus guy to pull your ass out of the fire.
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you are not understanding that it is this capitulation to God that opens the way for Him to come and rescue us.

We have ALREADY tried the we will do it ourselves trick - it dont work.

God set us up for it not to work, and HE knows it... waiting for us to ACKNOWLEDGE

10-4 acknowledge God, u set me up to fail

we have had a whispering lying mind attached to us (separate from our own mind) which has deceived every person bar one... Jesus from nazareth

everyone other than Him, listened to and obeyed that lying mind at least once and that was enough to soil the soul ( like saving a file on a hard drive, a virus for that matter )

so.... God set us up.. we NEED a savior by definition because the parts we have and even the so-called life we have are ALL subject to total destruction. Jesus provides all the new parts, and God promised a new earth and a new heaven. the truth is very simple and easy to understand.

we must admit to defeat.. we have been defeated by the carnal mind in man. as soon as u admit defeat and ask God to help you, then BOOM there He is.

we must capitulate to the true God - meaning GOD, not the person or energy other men teach about - just the true GOD, since He does exist, when you call on Him, He is the one that answers, because He is a Good God.

fearful men make it too complicated.
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man had taught it all wrong... the problem has been the carnal mind, and the only power stronger than that in a person is the Holy Spirit.

so, u believe on jesus and ask him to give you the holy spirit.

then you meet the holy spirit and She teaches you the truth and points out when the carnal mind is speaking inside you, teaches you to recognize it and separates the real you from the carnal mind in you.

since all this teaching about the carnal mind has only been explored more the last two years (that I know of) most people are still being controlled by their carnal minds (they caused this by obeying it all their lives by their own free will)

so most people on this planet are lost period - are unable to be themselves because they have turned their true selves over to the dominion of this lying voice inside them


so its a rescue mission by God

He has to burn this carnal mind thing off of everyone without destroying the real person who has his own identity wrapped in the mindset of the thing God wants to destroy

the wicked that God talks about destroying all the time, is the wicked carnal mind implant we all have

once God gets that thing off of you, u can think! and you can hear the holy spirit (through the conscience)

so God will get our attention and send the two witnesses - two people - to tell us the truth

when they come we still have to go by faith to believe them

they will be very convincing - and their love so over the top that you can not compare them to any concept of what we have thought a christian is like.

to get us outta this mess.. God will introduce a whole new mindset to replace the one we learned from the carnal mind. the new mindset is based on the Kingdom of God. As people are delivered from their carnal minds they will become their true selves and begin to make communities and societies and this grassroots campaign will spread world wide

then the people who are still obeying their carnal minds will appear to be as stupid as they really are, and people dont like to appear stupid and they can simply conform to the new society around them, and after awhile they also will be able to receive deliverance from their carnal mind

this will work, but i want you to know that its gonna happen on a social and societal basis. God will appeal to us, He will reason with us, He will teach, He will explain, HE will review history and geography. HE will reveal the truths. thats why the Father is coming Himself (explained in isaiah and elsewhere) He knows thats what we need

He really is saying forget about all the suffering we all have been going through - its over. He had to allow it, to get rid of death and evil forever. Now is the rescue. Now is the open arms - his people need to understand this deeply so they can tell others, they are accepted! at least stop standing in the way of His forgiveness, grace and mercy

again, it is OUR hard hearts that need to SOFTEN right now, today!

stop wanting to punish someone else for their sins, when yours are forgiven!

see your enemies in their right minds delivered from their carnal mind tormentor.

forgive!
love!

its all simple
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is it too simple
?
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is it too simple
?
 Quoting: Me114



Falsehoods are never simple!!
One must continue to lie to cover-up the original falsehood!!
Then the stories get complicated!!
Tis the reason christianity is complicated!!




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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]
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Let's all vote for Jesus to get us outta here


 Quoting: Me114


You HAVE been for the last 2000 years. How's that working for ya? hmm


lol
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Let's all vote for Jesus to get us outta here




You HAVE been for the last 2000 years. How's that working for ya? hmm


lol
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u might not understand this, but you would rather be right, than saved by the truth
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@ OP - rofl rofl Imma' love to watch this shit fail! 5a
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You HAVE been for the last 2000 years. How's that working for ya? hmm


lol



u might not understand this, but you would rather be right, than saved by the truth
 Quoting: Me114


Oh, so the fact that Jesus is but a LIE perpetrated by Lucifer and HENCE, you're NEVER going to be rescued by him is "truth" eh? hmm

And YES, I have this quirky "problem" of valuing TRUTH, unlike the cowardly religious types around me, HENCE my KNOWING why you'll NEVER be "saved" by the mythical Jesus.
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Jeeze.....why didn't anyone think of that? LOL LOL LOL
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And YES, I have this quirky "problem" of valuing TRUTH, unlike the cowardly religious types around me, HENCE my KNOWING why you'll NEVER be "saved" by the mythical Jesus.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Oh, I see.

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OP I am with you 500%! We are so far down there is no other choie but to ask for his help in getting out of this mess we are in.

<Wouldn't that be "avoiding your own responsibility's", and looking for another to do it for you???>

Not at all. The problems we are having go back to the beginning of time! Since the fall and before that even. We cannot do this alone! It is time that we ask for divine intervention!
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Stop looking for Jesus.

You won't find him anywhere but inside yourself.

Jesus is just a word. A word is just a sign post, pointing in a certain direction.


Words will not show you the truth.

You ARE the truth.


Realize this, and your world transforms instantly.
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OP I am with you 500%! We are so far down there is no other choie but to ask for his help in getting out of this mess we are in.

<Wouldn't that be "avoiding your own responsibility's", and looking for another to do it for you???>

Not at all. The problems we are having go back to the beginning of time! Since the fall and before that even. We cannot do this alone! It is time that we ask for divine intervention!
 Quoting: TheresaEl 500374


Well, it's not that you're NOT getting help, it just has NOTHING to do with Lucifer and his made up story of himself as Jesus the Christ.

The Door was just opened and everyone is basically getting what they hoped for, but it's just not that silly story fabricated to hijack the REAL story.

Honestly, do you all think Lucifer is THAT daft as to personally print Bibles of Truth for you to have on your coffee tables? I mean really? hmm
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Stop looking for Jesus.

You won't find him anywhere but inside yourself.

Jesus is just a word. A word is just a sign post, pointing in a certain direction.


Words will not show you the truth.

You ARE the truth.


Realize this, and your world transforms instantly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498216


Well, close, you CAN become the Truth, but you've got to work at it.

It's like a computer, garbage in, garbage out. peace
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This is pretty much a wasted vote......kinda like elections.
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OH "Jesus" could get us out of here!..
But not the "Jesus" that you are talking about and have been conditioned with...
"Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE"

"The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD"

"I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US."
- Martin Luther


"What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE"

"What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later"

"Stones to throw at my Creator..
MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther..
But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS"
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is it too simple
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Falsehoods are never simple!!
One must continue to lie to cover-up the original falsehood!!
Then the stories get complicated!!
Tis the reason christianity is complicated!!

Amen!

I have read 1,000 times more words explaining the Bible than are contained in the book itself. It is far more likely to find two identical snowflakes than to find any two people who agree totally with the book. Christians claim the Bible is the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God; but I refuse to ascribe divine authorship to a book that is little more than a compilation of scientific absurdities; historical and geographical inaccuracies; despicable vulgarities; confusing theologies; vague generalities; incoherent dreams and visions; mystical symbolisms; and literally hundreds of self contradictions (thousands if purported quotations are considered).

In truth, the Bible needs no critics, for the book itself displays its own shortcomings for all the world to see. Furthermore, Christians themselves prove the fallibility of the Bible by their continuing battles over the meaning of the divinely inspired (but nonetheless debatable ???) scriptures.

I might change my mind if ever the day should come when all those who defend the alleged divine nature of the Bible are able to pierce the veil of confusion and agree on a common interpretation: one understanding; one theology; one Bible; one denomination; and one church with one name. I don’t think that will ever happen. I’d probably have better odds of winning the State lottery every week for the next hundred years. If Christians want to convert atheist and agnostics, they should first convert other Christians to their belief. Physician, heal thyself!!!

For all of those enlightened posters on this forum who offer their own strongly held and strongly voiced personal interpretations of the Bible, all I can say is thanks. Thank God we have people around to explain the Bible. These self-proclaimed divine spokespersons are able to tell the rest of us what God really wanted to say but didn’t quite know how.






___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]

 Quoting: HardTruth
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OH "Jesus" could get us out of here!..
But not the "Jesus" that you are talking about and have been conditioned with...
 Quoting: FallenAwaken


Well, the Door's already just recently been opened, what else do you want, curb service? peace
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is it too simple
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Falsehoods are never simple!!
One must continue to lie to cover-up the original falsehood!!
Then the stories get complicated!!
Tis the reason christianity is complicated!!

_________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]






Amen!

I have read 1,000 times more words explaining the Bible than are contained in the book itself. It is far more likely to find two identical snowflakes than to find any two people who agree totally with the book. Christians claim the Bible is the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God; but I refuse to ascribe divine authorship to a book that is little more than a compilation of scientific absurdities; historical and geographical inaccuracies; despicable vulgarities; confusing theologies; vague generalities; incoherent dreams and visions; mystical symbolisms; and literally hundreds of self contradictions (thousands if purported quotations are considered).

In truth, the Bible needs no critics, for the book itself displays its own shortcomings for all the world to see. Furthermore, Christians themselves prove the fallibility of the Bible by their continuing battles over the meaning of the divinely inspired (but nonetheless debatable ???) scriptures.

I might change my mind if ever the day should come when all those who defend the alleged divine nature of the Bible are able to pierce the veil of confusion and agree on a common interpretation: one understanding; one theology; one Bible; one denomination; and one church with one name. I don’t think that will ever happen. I’d probably have better odds of winning the State lottery every week for the next hundred years. If Christians want to convert atheist and agnostics, they should first convert other Christians to their belief. Physician, heal thyself!!!

For all of those enlightened posters on this forum who offer their own strongly held and strongly voiced personal interpretations of the Bible, all I can say is thanks. Thank God we have people around to explain the Bible. These self-proclaimed divine spokespersons are able to tell the rest of us what God really wanted to say but didn’t quite know how.
 Quoting: The Professor 385883





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Well said, bravo!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[link to www.paganlibrary.com]
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the real Jesus is a cool dude and would help us out if we ask Him for real

thats all im saying
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Help me Jesus, Life will let me know.
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the real Jesus is a cool dude and would help us out if we ask Him for real

thats all im saying
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So then, no one's asked to be helped out during the last 2000 years? hmm
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people have not cared about what God wanted to do

what God wanted to do in their own lives

what He wanted to do with all the people on this earth

we havent sought to know and to do His plan


so now lets say, yes we want his solution to this mess
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What Happens Next Loves me.
Help me Jesus, Life will let me know.
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