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Pope Leo X quote about the fable of Jesus Christ debunked here

 
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Pope Leo X quote about the fable of Jesus Christ debunked here
I noticed that Saxon on another thread posted this alleged quote from Pope Leo X, variously rendered as "It has served us well, this myth of Christ", or "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

The quote is from a satirical work of John Bale, a sixteenth century English playwright, entitled The Pageant of Popes, as follows:

Leo the tenth was a Florentine borne, of the noble house of Medicea, and called ere he were Pope John Medices. He being Deacon and Cardinal of Saint Maries, contrarie to all hope was chosen to succede Julius. He beinge diligetly from his youth trained up in learning under learned schoolmaisters, and especially one Angelus Politianus, did afterward greatly favour learned men. When he was but. xiv. yeres olde he was made cardinall by Innocentius the. viii. and at the yeres of xxxviii. he obtained the papacie. This Leo was of his owne nature a gentil and quiet person: but often times ruled by those that were cruell and contencious men, whom he suffered to do in many matters according to their insolent wil. He addicting himselfe to nicenesse, and takinge ease did pamper his fleshe in diverse vanities and carnal pleasures: At banqueting he delighted greatly in wine and musike: but had no care of preaching the Gospell, nay was rather a cruell persecutour of those that began then, as Luther and other to reveale the light thereof: for on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuouse aunswere saiying: All ages can testifie enough howe profitable that fable of Christe hath ben to us and our companie: Sleidan faith he sente letters and bulles of pardons into all nations for suche as woulde give money for them, the effectes of his pardons were diverse, some especially to sell licence to eate butter, chese, egges, milke, and fleshe upon forbidden dates, and for this purpose he sent divers treasurers into al coutreis, and namelye one Samson a monke of Millaine into Germany, who by these pardons gathered out of sundrie places such hewge sommes of money that the worlde wondered at it, for he offered in one day to geve for the Papacie above an hundred and twentie thousand duckates.


It would be analogous today to quoting from the "Onion" to support whatever argument you are making.
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Great post and factual. As far as posters here repeating this lie I actually find it quite amusing,they blindly gulp up anything on a antichristian web site and regurgitate it here without out even checking it out first.Why? It fits their Worldview
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Wow, some actual truth around here. thanks for doing the research and shinning the light on the misconception.

it would be cool to have a thread that goes along the lines of that show mythbusters but instead be called conspiracybuster or something like that. that way we have one spot to bust some ideas that go around here or maybe find out that some conspiracies are valid. a nice place to look at concrete evidence no bullshit. probably wouldn't work cause people wouldn't base it on research or known facts and most wouldn't be interested.

i remember one time i posted a video of an actual economist saying the technical reasons why this economy will go down with or without the 700 billion bill and it got like 4 comments. if i were to post though that i know a friend that told me that her cousin found out something about her exboyfriends uncle who works at a bank and said wellsfargo is about to go under, I would get like 8 pages of "TIME TO GO TO COSTA RICA...MARTAIL LAW COMING!"

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