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Sarah Palin: Hillary's gift to Obama

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Palin is Hillary's Gift to Obama Toby Harnden
Fri Sep 12, 10:30 AM ET

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Spare us the instant Hillary Clinton nostalgia. Half of the Democratic party seems to have persuaded itself that the former First Lady would have been cruising to an effortless victory by now had primary voters shown the wisdom to select her as their nominee.

Even many of those who remain intensely loyal to Barack Obama are beginning to rue the day he decided not to pick her as his running mate. Clinton and her sisterhood of traveling pantsuits, they fret, would have sewn up the female vote, reassured rural white men and doubled down on this year's election theme of change.

Republicans who spent several years salivating at the prospect of facing a polarizing candidate with more baggage than Heathrow airport, an unfavorability rating hovering around 50 per cent and the persona of the archetypal calculating politician now hail her as a gutsy heroine callously cast aside by Senator Obama.

Of course, most of the new conservative love for Clinton is tactical. By lauding the senator for New York, they undermine Obama and highlight her case - which looks more compelling by the day - that he could not defeat John McCain. The old adage that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", Republicans calculate, should hold true until November 4th.

We will never know whether Clinton would have beaten Senator McCain, though there are powerful reasons to be skeptical about her camp's conviction that victory would have been a certainty. But while she may not have beaten Obama in the primaries, she may well have sown the seeds for his defeat in 52 days time.

It's not just that Clinton continued to battle for the nomination beyond the point at which her winning became impossible and the major political damage to the Illinois senator became inevitable.

The crucial point is that if it wasn't for Clinton, Sarah Palin - who now could well become America's first female president whether or not McCain wins the White House - would have remained in relative obscurity in Alaska.

The New York senator knew that Obama would never choose her to be his running mate. Even if he'd asked her, she might well have refused. Her looming presence, however, spooked Obama into playing it safe with his vice-presidential pick.

Again and again, Clinton supporters made clear that for him to choose another woman to be on the ticket would cause uproar in Hillaryland. Obama was inclined to choose a Washington outsider who embodied change, had appeal in the heartland, would highlight his change message, had shown personal loyalty to him and with whom he was comfortable and in synch.

Either Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas or Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri would have fitted the bill. But Obama, afraid of a Hillary backlash if he chose a less qualified woman, blinked.

Clinton had trumpeted 35 years of experience. So Obama selected Senator Joe Biden of Delaware, who could boast nearly 36 years on Capitol Hill. Biden was acceptable to the Clintons because he'd never taken shots at Mrs Clinton (indeed, he didn't even endorse Obama against her). Even his Scranton roots were something of a nod to the former First Lady.

What Obama hadn't reckoned with was the opportunity he'd be handing McCain. Having calculated correctly that Obama would not choose Clinton, the Arizona senator embarked on what looks in hindsight like a masterful diversionary move. All summer, he dangled boring white guy governors Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty as his likely veep picks.

He floated Joe Lieberman, and appears genuinely to have wanted to choose the Connecticut senator before concluding he would have been unacceptable to the Right. But all along, Governor Palin was on his list. The rest were decoys.

Palin's inexperience made her a risk. When Obama went for Biden, however, the pluses were too good to overlook - a play for soft Hillary supporters, an outsider, an embodiment of change, a cementing of the jittery conservative base, a much needed jolt of excitement to McCain's campaign.

The secrecy of McCain's veepstakes process squashed whatever convention bounce Obama might otherwise have enjoyed. Palin neutralized Biden by making him seem a quaint throwback. And Biden, true to form, has already obliged by describing Palin as "good looking" and condemning her selection as a "backward step for women" - innocent comments but easily capable of provoking outrage, both real and synthetic.

Palin's presence on the trail has ensured that Clinton will remain to the fore - a constant reminder to her supporters of what might have been. Fearful of losing women voters, the Obama-Biden ticket is showing deference to the New York senator. Biden's musing that she might have been "more qualified" than him and a "better pick" as Obama's running mate was a gaffe of breathtaking proportions.

It's now obvious that Palin has left Obama badly rattled and his campaign flummoxed. It must stick in the craw of a man brought up by a single mother, who married a strong woman and adores his two daughters but he stands accused of being sexism not just once but twice.

The "lipstick on a pig" slip-up was no more intended to be sexist or demeaning than his ill-judged "likeable enough, Hillary" quip in the New Hampshire primary debate. But it illustrated once again the perils of a rookie on the national scene jousting with a female politician who has passionate supporters and is poised to make history.

It's folly, of course, for Obama to be engaging with Palin. It diminishes him by equating him with the number two on the other ticket. And far from neutralizing the question mark over his experience, the discussion of her qualifications has ensured that his thin resume will remain front and center.

Obama should be giving Palin a good ignoring while his campaign hammers away at her record and McCain's linkages to President George W. Bush - not his vetting process (a Beltway preoccupation of no relevance beyond whether it missed anything damaging) or her family.

Clinton has made clear she won't be attacking Palin. And why should she? A McCain-Palin victory would make Clinton the Democratic front runner in 2012. It would vindicate everything she said about Obama during their primary battle.

Palin, and what picking her telegraphed about McCain, could be Obama's nemesis. Hillary Clinton brought us Palin. The Alaska governor is her gift to Obama.

lol
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

Ronald Reagan
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9/13/2008 7:31 PM
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iamwith
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9/13/2008 7:42 PM
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Thanks for the gift! It's going to propel Obama into the White House...YOU'LL SEE!!!

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Pre-written ...

McCain leading? Tell me it isn’t so!

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This temporary bounce is based on a positive story, while the negatives are still seeping in. Timing is the issue here. There are 2 months to go, and those Republican positives will erode steadily. Obama has NOTHING to fear, no bombs, but McCain’s side is loaded with worrysome possibilities – his temper, his senility during debates, Palin’s horror stories getting repeatedly reported as the media steadily digs into her past and troopergate unfolds. McCain has OTHER issues to fear too, which the media is unaware of as yet, due to his long, long history with lobbyists and many affairs during his marriage with Cindy. Palin will show a cold, sharp anger during interviews, which she will be forced to give, with the host allowing this to show in retaliation for the LACK of access allowed to both she and McCain. McCain and Palin have made the media their enemy, refusing interviews and publicly blaming them. This was a mistake!
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Best in Texas
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9/13/2008 7:52 PM
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They say the same thing about VD, the gift that keeps on giving.
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9/13/2008 7:54 PM
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Palin will give hitlery a nice cabinet position.
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9/13/2008 7:55 PM
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They say the same thing about VD, the gift that keeps on giving.
 Quoting: Best in Texas

chuckle

Maybe Barack can send Hillary a letter that begins with the words, "I just want you to know what your love has given me..."
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

Ronald Reagan
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9/13/2008 7:56 PM
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Palin is a thousand times more qualified than Barry.
McCain a million times.
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9/13/2008 7:58 PM
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still time for Biden to "come down with something" and step aside.
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9/13/2008 8:14 PM
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still time for Biden to "come down with something" and step aside.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502813


Rehab wouldn't be a bad idea..


I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

Ronald Reagan
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9/13/2008 10:10 PM
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lmao

[link to www.nytimes.com]

lmao
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