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Jesus and the Third Eye

 
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Goodies from the gospel of thomas...

3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and
you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living
Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."


27) <Jesus said,> "If you do not fast as regards the world, you
will not find the Kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath as a
Sabbath, you will not see the Father."

49) Jesus said, "Blessed are the solitary and elect, for you
will find the Kingdom. For you are from it, and to it you will
return."

50) Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?',
say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light
came into being on its own accord and established [itself] and
became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it
you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the Living
Father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in
you?', say to them, 'It is movement and repose.'"

58) Jesus said, "Blessed is the man who has suffered and found
life."

70) Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you
bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is
within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

75) Jesus said, "Many are standing at the door, but it is the
solitary who will enter the bridal chamber."

83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light
in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the
Father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain
concealed by his light."

111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in
your presence. And one who lives from the Living One will not see
death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to
the world?"

Cryptic no? Much more....
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John 14:12

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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Actually, I don't think "belief" plays a role in the validity of whether there's a God factor, or not.......lol

There either is one, or there isn't......all the believing in the world won't change the truth of it one bit, right?
 Quoting: voice 502783

If "god" is Infinite.. then perhaps your beliefs shape the interaction? And thus your experience of "God"
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I think Jesus's third eye was open, so perhaps that is included in the package deal. :)

Forgive me for saying it yet again, lol, but I really believe that you only need 2 eyes.......as long as you can see clearly with them! lol
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The "third" in the middle of your brain is the pineal gland.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and
you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living
Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

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Very good! Thank you for posting all of those. :)
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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However, it is my belief that everyone's third eye is open at least to some degree or another, and whether we notice it or not is another story.
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OK......I guess I can give you the benefit of the doubt, as long as you don't try to poke your finger in my third eye, deal? lol hf
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How about this one!

106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the
sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will
move away."
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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If "god" is Infinite.. then perhaps your beliefs shape the interaction? And thus your experience of "God"
 Quoting: Arboriel

Wow, thats sorta deep.........and without a doubt true!


And Growth, is nothing more than the changing of "perception".
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And this jewel!

22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

Certainly suggests a "doing"...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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If "god" is Infinite.. then perhaps your beliefs shape the interaction? And thus your experience of "God"

Wow, thats sorta deep.........and without a doubt true!


And Growth, is nothing more than the changing of "perception".
 Quoting: voice 502783

Until we see rightly ;)

It is more important to know what your beliefs allow you to do or not do, rather than if they are true or not.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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The "third" in the middle of your brain is the pineal gland.
 Quoting: Arboriel

Did a quick Google search, and brought back this quote:

"When the penial gland is stimulated with higher frequency than usual, the penial gland expands and releases more thought forms."

Interesting huh?
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I think Jesus's third eye was open, so perhaps that is included in the package deal. :)

Forgive me for saying it yet again, lol, but I really believe that you only need 2 eyes.......as long as you can see clearly with them! lol
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Thats is just it. We can't. There is a viel over our eyes(eye). You know that most likely. Im sure back in the day before the, what some call, "FALL" of man, they were whole and everything was running the way it was supposed too. 100% brain power. Instead of what we use today.

Also they were so close to god they could see, and talk to god. It was natural to have god with them. And then they fell. And they started doing stuff for themselves and not as the whole. Slowly over time the 3rd eye hardened and eventually we lost contact with the spirit world. And lost contact with our creator who we are fashioned after.

I believe soon we will all know what we really are and what we are capable of.

I believe soon we will have a choice to accept or deny what we are capable of.

And I believe soon death will be no more and we will once again talk and walk with god. Here on earth. Like the days before selfishness.

EDIT TO ADD: Losing contact with the spirit realm doesnt mean god left us. It means we cant see god. God is there. We just cant recognize god.
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How about this one!

106) Jesus said, "When you make the two one, you will become the
sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will
move away."
 Quoting: Arboriel




Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Those who talk do not know; those who know do not talk.
Lao Tzu


Matthew 18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Superior goodness is like water.
Lao Tzu


I think we are onto something. :)
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It is more important to know what your beliefs allow you to do or not do, rather than if they are true or not.
 Quoting: Arboriel

I'm still trying to understand this one.......?

I have a good friend who is a "chi master", who I've seen do amazing things........and yet, I've never met a person who could fill his mouth with so many lies, as this guy. (He's also in the CIA) I think that explains it!

But anyways: with all his powers, I still feel that he betrays himself for "Lack of the truth"........is this what you are trying to say?
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And this jewel!

22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

Certainly suggests a "doing"...
 Quoting: Arboriel



WOW! I really like that one. What is the whole passage verse number?
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Jewels from the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ...

Chapter 22
The friendship of Jesus and Lamaas. Jesus explains to Lamaas the meaning of truth, man, power, understanding, wisdom, salvation and faith.

1. Among the priests of Jagannath was one who loved the Jewish boy. Lamaas Bramas was the name by which the priest was known.
2. One day as Jesus and Lamaas walked alone in plaza Jagannath, Lamaas said, My Jewish master, what is truth?
3. And Jesus said, Truth is the only thing that changes not.
4. In all the world there are two things; the one is truth; the other falsehood is; and truth is that which is, and falsehood that which seems to be.
5. Now truth is aught, and has no cause, and yet it is the cause of everything.
6. Falsehood is naught, and yet it is the manifest of aught.
7. Whatever has been made will be unmade; that which begins must end.
8. All things that can be seen by human eyes are manifests of aught, are naught, and so must pass away.
9. The things we see are but reflexes just appearing, while the ethers vibrate so and so, and when conditions change they disappear.
10. The Holy Breath is truth; is that which was, and is, and evermore shall be; it cannot change nor pass away.
11. Lamaas said, You answer well; now, what is man?
12. And Jesus said, Man is the truth and falsehood strangely mixed.
13. Man is the Breath made flesh; so truth and falsehood are conjoined in him; and they strive, and naught goes down and man as truth abides.
14. Again Lamaas asked, What do you say of power?
15. And Jesus said, It is a manifest; is the result of force; it is but naught; it is illusion, nothing more. Force changes not, but power changes as the ethers change.
16. Force is the will of God and is omnipotent, and power is that will in manifest, directed by the Breath.
17. There is power in the winds, a power in the waves, a power in the lightning's stroke, a power in the human arm, a power in the eye.
18. The ethers cause there powers to be, and thought of Elohim, of angel, man, or other thinking thing, directs the force; when it has done its work the power is no more.
19. Again Lamaas asked, Of understanding what have you to say?
20. And Jesus said, It is the rock on which man builds himself; it is the gnosis of the aught and of the naught, of falsehood and of truth.
21. It is the knowledge of the lower self; the sensing of the powers of man himself.
22. Again Lamaas asked, Of wisdom what have you to say?
23. And Jesus said, It is the consciousness that man is aught; that God and man are one;
24. That naught is naught; that power is but illusion; that heaven and earth and hell are not above, around, below, but in; which in the light of aught becomes the naught, and God is all.
25. Lamaas asked, Pray, what is faith?
26. And Jesus said, Faith is the surety of the omnipotence of God and man; the certainty that man will reach the deific life.
27. Salvation is a ladder reaching from the heart of man to heart of God.
28. It has three steps; Belief is first, and this is what man thinks, perhaps, is truth.
29. And faith is next, and this is what man knows is truth.
30. Fruition is the last, and this is man himself, the truth.
31. Belief is lost in faith; and in fruition is lost; and man is saved when he has reached deific life; when he and God are one.


Especially that last one!!! Food for the soul!
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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It is more important to know what your beliefs allow you to do or not do, rather than if they are true or not.
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Yes, it is not so important about WHAT it is you believe, so much as what it is MAKES you into a better person, and allows you to CHANGE the world around you. :)
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The "third" in the middle of your brain is the pineal gland.

Did a quick Google search, and brought back this quote:

"When the penial gland is stimulated with higher frequency than usual, the penial gland expands and releases more thought forms."

Interesting huh?
 Quoting: voice 502783

It actually squirts out DMT
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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It is more important to know what your beliefs allow you to do or not do, rather than if they are true or not.

I'm still trying to understand this one.......?

I have a good friend who is a "chi master", who I've seen do amazing things........and yet, I've never met a person who could fill his mouth with so many lies, as this guy. (He's also in the CIA) I think that explains it!

But anyways: with all his powers, I still feel that he betrays himself for "Lack of the truth"........is this what you are trying to say?
 Quoting: voice 502783

Not quit... read the Aquarian Gospel paste...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Those who talk do not know; those who know do not talk.
Lao Tzu
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Hey, I just heard Jackie Chan say that in his new movie with Jet Li........lol
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WOW! I really like that one. What is the whole passage verse number?
 Quoting: canislatrans

It's just 22. The whole Gospel is a little over a hundred of Jesus's saying.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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16. Force is the will of God and is omnipotent, and power is that will in manifest, directed by the Breath.
17. There is power in the winds, a power in the waves, a power in the lightning's stroke, a power in the human arm, a power in the eye.

 Quoting: Arboriel



Very good. :) I really like these verses! Power is the will of god manifested, and there is power in all things directed by the breath of life. :) A power in the eye, must be directed by the breath of life. :)
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Direct your will to the Tao, and the power of God can manifest through you, the breath of life.

The breath of life = nature = Tao

Nice circle. :)
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But anyways: with all his powers, I still feel that he betrays himself for "Lack of the truth"........is this what you are trying to say?
 Quoting: voice 502783


Many things are possible through mind and will without the heart being involved...

Highly not recommend, creates greater schisms between soul and Spirit.

Think of it like we're on unstable ground...you don't want to climb further up the ladder!

We need to climb down and finish the foundation.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Not quit... read the Aquarian Gospel paste...
 Quoting: Arboriel

Read it.......

Found myself thinking how this Jesus differs so much from the one I listen too......lol

My Jesus simply tells me: "When faith grows up, it becomes knowing."

I think the Aquarian Jesus was saying the same thing, it just seemed like it was taking Him longer....lol

Anyway, please forgive my arrogance! Can't resist sometimes.....lol
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Not quit... read the Aquarian Gospel paste...

Read it.......

Found myself thinking how this Jesus differs so much from the one I listen too......lol

My Jesus simply tells me: "When faith grows up, it becomes knowing."

I think the Aquarian Jesus was saying the same thing, it just seemed like it was taking Him longer....lol

Anyway, please forgive my arrogance! Can't resist sometimes.....lol
 Quoting: voice 502783



Same Jesus, just this time it's you reading it through your own eyes. :)
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I managed to slow the spinning figure down, then had the thought I wasn't going to be able to reverse it, then all of a sudden it reversed.

Then my head got hot so I stopped looking at it. lol
It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe
- Heraclitus
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Eternity is not the indefinite extension of time; it is the disappearance of time.
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Forgive me for saying it yet again, lol, but I really believe that you only need 2 eyes.......as long as you can see clearly with them! lol



Thats is just it. We can't. There is a viel over our eyes(eye).
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian

Yes, and I agree with you Canadian: Methinks not for much longer either!

Btw, for brevities sake, I felt I needed to shorten your response.......however, I totally enjoyed the whole post!!!
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Eternity is not the indefinite extension of time; it is the disappearance of time.
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I like that.





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