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Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids

 
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Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
And i have noticed this for decades and it just happened again yesterday in the local grocery store where this black lady and her 3 kids were in the store, well two of the little girls approx 4 and 6 were playing and the 4yo fell down and started to cry and the mother turns around and yells at her, so loud it covered the whole store and then yanked her up by 1 arm while she was crying and smacked her 5 times hard and cussing her out for fooling around.
I see this go on alot and as posted always have with black women and their kids.
Every time i see this i know if i was a social worker i would immediatly take the kids away right there and have the parent arrested as these are just kids doing kid things and i turn red in the face when i see this crap.
Is there any black people here that care to fill me in on this and why this takes place?
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Why do you think this happens? Do you think that black mothers are evil or more violent than other mothers? Do you think the solution is to take their kids from them?

The truth is they react like this because of their own background. The violence comes from black peoples past and guess who is responsible for that. She grew up being hit by her mom and her mom experienced the same thing. If you go back far enough the kids were beaten for screwing around because the parents knew if their kids didn't learn this lesson early they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master. So when the black mother beats her kids in front of white folks they are reacting unconciously in fear and selfloathing. They want the white world to see that they are doing everything they can to prevent their kids from being misbehaved and deserving of the white mans lash.

Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?

The cycle continues for as many generations as it takes till someone finally breaks the cycle.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
I see all colors being very unkind to their children in public.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Why do you think this happens? Do you think that black mothers are evil or more violent than other mothers? Do you think the solution is to take their kids from them?

The truth is they react like this because of their own background. The violence comes from black peoples past and guess who is responsible for that. She grew up being hit by her mom and her mom experienced the same thing. If you go back far enough the kids were beaten for screwing around because the parents knew if their kids didn't learn this lesson early they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master. So when the black mother beats her kids in front of white folks they are reacting unconciously in fear and selfloathing. They want the white world to see that they are doing everything they can to prevent their kids from being misbehaved and deserving of the white mans lash.

Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?

The cycle continues for as many generations as it takes till someone finally breaks the cycle.
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Child molesters follow the same cycle pattern of behaviour too, should we treat them with love and respect to cure their offending habits?
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Why do you think this happens? Do you think that black mothers are evil or more violent than other mothers? Do you think the solution is to take their kids from them?

The truth is they react like this because of their own background. The violence comes from black peoples past and guess who is responsible for that. She grew up being hit by her mom and her mom experienced the same thing. If you go back far enough the kids were beaten for screwing around because the parents knew if their kids didn't learn this lesson early they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master. So when the black mother beats her kids in front of white folks they are reacting unconciously in fear and selfloathing. They want the white world to see that they are doing everything they can to prevent their kids from being misbehaved and deserving of the white mans lash.

Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?

The cycle continues for as many generations as it takes till someone finally breaks the cycle.
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blame whitey always arent you..
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
I see all colors being very unkind to their children in public.
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You are right about that and its the root cause for all the sickness in the world. PreNazi Germany had one of the most abusive societies towards children ever.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Why do you think this happens? Do you think that black mothers are evil or more violent than other mothers? Do you think the solution is to take their kids from them?

The truth is they react like this because of their own background. The violence comes from black peoples past and guess who is responsible for that. She grew up being hit by her mom and her mom experienced the same thing. If you go back far enough the kids were beaten for screwing around because the parents knew if their kids didn't learn this lesson early they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master. So when the black mother beats her kids in front of white folks they are reacting unconciously in fear and selfloathing. They want the white world to see that they are doing everything they can to prevent their kids from being misbehaved and deserving of the white mans lash.

Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?

The cycle continues for as many generations as it takes till someone finally breaks the cycle.


blame whitey always arent you..
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I'm white. Sorry I don't fit into your little box.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?


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lol And then she would crack open a can of whoopass on the OP for not minding his own bidness.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Why do you think this happens? Do you think that black mothers are evil or more violent than other mothers? Do you think the solution is to take their kids from them?

The truth is they react like this because of their own background. The violence comes from black peoples past and guess who is responsible for that. She grew up being hit by her mom and her mom experienced the same thing. If you go back far enough the kids were beaten for screwing around because the parents knew if their kids didn't learn this lesson early they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master. So when the black mother beats her kids in front of white folks they are reacting unconciously in fear and selfloathing. They want the white world to see that they are doing everything they can to prevent their kids from being misbehaved and deserving of the white mans lash.

Maybe instead of being critical (the root of this problem) you should have appoached her in openness and love and told her that her child is a beautiful person who needs love not fear and violence. Instead of judgement and hate how about trying love and forgiveness?

The cycle continues for as many generations as it takes till someone finally breaks the cycle.


Child molesters follow the same cycle pattern of behaviour too, should we treat them with love and respect to cure their offending habits?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502707

Someone who is dangerous always needs to be treated differently then someone who is not. This is a strawman argument and hardly even worth responding to.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.
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lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
PreNazi Germany had one of the most abusive societies towards children ever.
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Proof?
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.

lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.
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Understanding why someone does what they do does not remove responsiblilty for said actions. But I suppose thats a little to nuanced for your black and white world.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
and their kids will repeat the pattern with their kids
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.

lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.

Understanding why someone does what they do does not remove responsiblilty for said actions. But I suppose thats a little to nuanced for your black and white world.
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people do not beat their kids because of slavery or fear of the "white master". Thats a bunch of crap you made up.
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and their kids will repeat the pattern with their kids
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We see this again and again. We can point fingers and blame them and say they are bad people or we can recognise whats happening and maybe then we can work towards a solution.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.

lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.

Understanding why someone does what they do does not remove responsiblilty for said actions. But I suppose thats a little to nuanced for your black and white world.


people do not beat their kids because of slavery or fear of the "white master". Thats a bunch of crap you made up.
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lalaThis is you.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Child molesters follow the same cycle pattern of behaviour too, should we treat them with love and respect to cure their offending habits?

Someone who is dangerous always needs to be treated differently then someone who is not. This is a strawman argument and hardly even worth responding to.
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Sorry but no, this is the EXACT same argument, have you worked with kids in care?

I'm not talking about dangerous child abducters stalking parks, i'm talking about incestuous molestation, kids who've been abused (sexually, emotionally or physically) stand a very high chance of becoming abusers themselves and continue the cycle.

These kinds of abuse fall into the same category....FACT, else everything they taught me in college was false and Freud is dickhead.

So i ask again, if we see a parent beating their child in the street we are to...in your logic, approach the offender with love, compassion and respect and ask kindly they refrain from their current mode of behaviour?

Bear in mind the answer to this also requires you by default to replace the word 'beating' with the word 'molesting', does the answer still fit?
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.

lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.

Understanding why someone does what they do does not remove responsiblilty for said actions. But I suppose thats a little to nuanced for your black and white world.


people do not beat their kids because of slavery or fear of the "white master". Thats a bunch of crap you made up.

lalaThis is you.
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No , actually that is not. You made up a convenient excuse as for why some people beat their kids. You have zero proof of it, and you were called on it. The slavery excuse is not working.

Sorry.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Child molesters follow the same cycle pattern of behaviour too, should we treat them with love and respect to cure their offending habits?

Someone who is dangerous always needs to be treated differently then someone who is not. This is a strawman argument and hardly even worth responding to.


Sorry but no, this is the EXACT same argument, have you worked with kids in care?

I'm not talking about dangerous child abducters stalking parks, i'm talking about incestuous molestation, kids who've been abused (sexually, emotionally or physically) stand a very high chance of becoming abusers themselves and continue the cycle.

These kinds of abuse fall into the same category....FACT, else everything they taught me in college was false and Freud is dickhead.

So i ask again, if we see a parent beating their child in the street we are to...in your logic, approach the offender with love, compassion and respect and ask kindly they refrain from their current mode of behaviour?

Bear in mind the answer to this also requires you by default to replace the word 'beating' with the word 'molesting', does the answer still fit?
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Beating kids and molesting kids are both abuse. I was beaten when I was a kid and I know it was abuse. In a perfect world we would stop all abuse immedietly, but I'm not sure how we do this since its such a widespread problem. Which approach do you think is better, watch the abuse and think critical thoughts or approach the parent and try to make a positive difference. I'm not saying you would have any affect but it has more chance then judgemental thoughts kept to onceself.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
they would be in for far more horrific beatings from the white master.

lame

Righttt.

It's slavery that makes them do this. Not their fault.


Righttttt.

Understanding why someone does what they do does not remove responsiblilty for said actions. But I suppose thats a little to nuanced for your black and white world.


people do not beat their kids because of slavery or fear of the "white master". Thats a bunch of crap you made up.

lalaThis is you.


No , actually that is not. You made up a convenient excuse as for why some people beat their kids. You have zero proof of it, and you were called on it. The slavery excuse is not working.

Sorry.
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You are not mature or enlightened enough to have this discussion so it would be better for all if you stopped posting in this thread and tried to learn something by reading what others have to say.
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I was beaten when I was a kid
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laugh

Was it because of the white slave master?
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PreNazi Germany had one of the most abusive societies towards children ever.
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Proof?

Or ya just made that up too?
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
You are not mature or enlightened enough to have this discussion so it would be better for all if you stopped posting in this thread and tried to learn something by reading what others have to say.
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You stated they beat their children because of white slave masters.

You made that up, with no evidence.

You got called on it.

Sorry.
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I was beaten when I was a kid


laugh

Was it because of the white slave master?
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You are very funny and clever. You should be a standup comedian so that the whole world could laugh with you.
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You are not mature or enlightened enough to have this discussion so it would be better for all if you stopped posting in this thread and tried to learn something by reading what others have to say.


You stated they beat their children because of white slave masters.

You made that up, with no evidence.

You got called on it.

Sorry.
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Has it ever occured to you that what your saying is defences so that you don't need to deal with your own pain? I suspect that there is a lot of things that you aren't willing to deal with in your own past.
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Re: Not being prejudice at all but i see black women in public places litterally beat the crap outta their 4-5-6-7-8-9 etc yo kids
Apparently, back before the 50s it was common for parents of any color to beat their kids for any infraction. Most parents kept it behind closed doors, but corporal punishment was considered an essential tool for good parenting.

Luckily, my grandfather decided not to go the old school "spare the rod, spoil the child" route, the way his father parented him. He wanted to teach his children to mind him out of respect, not out of fear. He raised 7 children without hitting them once. They all went on to get advanced degrees, the first generation in my father's family line to get university educations. I think they all found ways to put themselves through college because they wanted to earn the respect of my grandfather - who certainly earned their respect by being a kind, loving, non-violent man.
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You are not mature or enlightened enough to have this discussion so it would be better for all if you stopped posting in this thread and tried to learn something by reading what others have to say.


You stated they beat their children because of white slave masters.

You made that up, with no evidence.

You got called on it.

Sorry.

Has it ever occured to you that what your saying is defences so that you don't need to deal with your own pain? I suspect that there is a lot of things that you aren't willing to deal with in your own past.
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If you posted evidence, we could consider it.

So far, you have just made things up.

Sorry.
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PreNazi Germany had one of the most abusive societies towards children ever.
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Proof?

Still waiting.
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Beating kids and molesting kids are both abuse. I was beaten when I was a kid and I know it was abuse. In a perfect world we would stop all abuse immedietly, but I'm not sure how we do this since its such a widespread problem. Which approach do you think is better, watch the abuse and think critical thoughts or approach the parent and try to make a positive difference. I'm not saying you would have any affect but it has more chance then judgemental thoughts kept to onceself.
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Exactly, abuse is abuse when all said and done, the flavour doesn't matter, and in roughly 50% of all abuse cases there are elements of all 3 kinds!

I think they should ALL be punishable by law based on the severity of each particular case, i don't think anyone should approach offenders themselves but call the appropriate authorities to handle it. If we see someone slapping seven bells out of their child in the street most of us walk on by thinking "jeez what a bitch" or "i wonder what he did to deserve that" but if we see an adult slapping seven bells out of another adult who is crying and screaming, we would feel the urge to call the police, why?....imho it's because we don't see children as human beings, we see them as property of the parents with no individual rights like an adult.
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You keep saying "sorry". This is a patronizing and condescending expression which indicates that you want this discussion to stop. You are trying to deflect this and turn it into mudslinging and namecalling. This is another indication that there are a lot of things buried in your psyche that you would rather not deal with.
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As for some evidence and discussion of the childabuse issue in pre WWII Germany here you go. [link to primal-page.com]

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