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| AQ 7 User ID: 508682 10/2/2008 8:07 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
From the other thread:
IKE update: Why are they lying about...
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the deaths?
Its a control thing I understand. But really what else could it be related to?
We are contractors. So we got in first.
Seabrook Texas--
The community is reporting 800 missing families. These were people who were known to have stayed.
Matagorda all the way to LA...
Battered to toothpicks. From the beach in land to 7 miles.
Few structures left intact enough to call "remodel" "repair". 99% of all buildings are complete re-builds. The real report is 4200 bodies recovered in the water. 300 more not recovered-total so far known dead/missing bodies, is 4500.
7-10 miles inland--
80% of all structures have damage. We are stripping the first 4' of sheetrock(flooding)to the struts. All flooring, many roofs. Trees and power lines are still being repaired.
Most of the "media" reports that dealt with Center point misled, they just didn't tell you they were not repaired but jury-rig to get power up. Some wires are on roofs and hanging to the ground so cars can pass over. This stretches for hundreds of miles along the coast. Every town was hit. The inlets and bays got it worse because of the water bore. Height at that point exceeded 20'.
10-25 miles inland--
Damage still to power lines. Trees still down. Most of the homes escaped major damage. Rate of structural repair drops significantly--2-4%.
25-35--inclusive of Houston...
Power outage to Houston small residential sections was the longest to repair. Reason: Houses are so close together that the trees fell on the houses and the power lines without fail. In order to repair they had to use cranes MOST of the time to lift large pieces of tree and pole OVER THE HOUSE to get them IN and OUT of the close packed yards.
While the workers for Center Point went above and beyond the call of duty, the same CANNOT be said for the company, or company policy, itself. That is inclusive of Reliant E.
The other utility companies, including Direct Tv are every bit as bad.
The credit card and bank companies are the worse of the lot. CHASE is absolutely flagrant.
While the PTB supposed called them to call a break on the bill for the area. And in fact one bill has the due date as "N/A". All are applying late fees, all are requiring a full month payment despite not running a full month. Yes, SOME are giving you time, but they are applying late fees per their usual schedule.
FEMA pulled out of my area in 2 days. We got 1 meal and a bottle of water. We had no power for more than a week.
Pep Boys sold us a generator--UST 3500W(anyone that can find the company/maker please let me know-post it)Would ONLY ACCEPT CASH--accepted no return, no refund. Generator never worked--Pep boys main office do not reply to my queries.
Reports of looting scarce during the storm but in Seabrook this last week the cops have their hands full. Arrested more than 50 Hispanics who came out of Pasadena, and drove along the street picking up the surviving items home owners had salvaged all these weeks as they cleaned. The(toothpick like) debris stretches from the front door to the street. So they are putting the "keepers" they find as they pick through, along the street. The Mexicans are driving by, jumping out of the trucks, and grabbing/running.
Homeland security--like in Katrina we have reports of guns seized out of their cabinets and being destroyed. People were forcibly removed, and with loaded guns pointing. All of this was AFTER the storm, not before.
The media is still not reporting the deaths, and entire families are missing. Only neighbors are counting who they knew stayed or got stranded by the water.
The flooding of the seawall started 26 hours before the storm was due. What happened is they(reporters) kept changing the "due" time to earlier and earlier. They INSISTED it was not storm surge even after it topped the wall. And because they contradicted themselves by reporting the storm as a 2, people did not believe it was a bad storm until they saw the water and flooding start. The water rises quickly, and therefore they were stranded hours earlier than they expected the storm. Many were still tying things down, (no rain-remember the storm was hours away)and they found the roads cut off.
I'm posting to let you know when someone around you talks of this, tell them that a contractor in the area reports this. Curfew in many places is now lifted but few have driven over the entire territory in these last weeks the way a contractor does. Because the news media is whipped, people in the very areas I'm talking about are uninformed of these things. They are isolated. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 507457 10/2/2008 8:12 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
because Damit!!!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 516081 10/2/2008 11:34 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 430839 10/3/2008 3:08 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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| down at the beach User ID: 521985 10/9/2008 10:02 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | I am from the beach and I can say it has been almost a month since the storm hit and we still can't find out any info on the missing. they claim to have found 37 bodies, but only 3 have been identified. Why want they let these family members know. I have a friend that is missing with his girlfriend. we found his car, they were trying to evacuate. they just didn't make it. also the ferry landing is closed to everyone except emergency vehicals only. I was told by someone who works there that the debris was bad and there were dead cows floating in the bay. will they ever tell us the truth? |
| The_Venerable User ID: 412220 (OP) 10/11/2008 11:44 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 504748 10/12/2008 1:44 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | I want to know what happened to those idiots that were on Fox news that stayed at that bar. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 156099 10/12/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
for updates...
Can anyone on the coast there let us know how things are progressing? I see the post from the 9th a couple above - and hope to see more new news spanning the entire effected region...
A question for area residents: Does it seem reconstruction has began, or is there still restricted access for you residents to return to begin clean-up/reconstruction? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 523956 10/12/2008 2:47 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | You will not receive an answer to your question, only ridicule. Believe me I have tried.How can you have 20,000+ trapped people in an area that is literally GONE, and there be so few missing? Where did they go? Explain. Please. I'm willing to be convinced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431995 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 524233 10/12/2008 2:57 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | They can call that storm a Cat 2 all they like, and even say it had CAT 3 winds, but I went through Hurricane Alicia, a CAT 3, and it was nothing compared to Ike.
A repair lineman for Texas-New Mexico power company said the damage done was worse than Katrina! Fortunately, even mobile homes in my area suffered little damage, even leaving windows unbroken...it was the trees that were severely damaged. Unbelievable! Ike was selective in its destruction in that it might take a large tree down and leave an unprotected potted plant alone. Weird, just weird!
Telephone linemen, brought in from out-of-state, said they would be in the area (including Galveston, San Leon, Bacliff, Kemah and up along the channel) until around Christmas. Many of those folks are living under tents, everything they had being swept away. Where are the mobile homes for them from FEMA?
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 523956 10/12/2008 3:28 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | It seemed that the harshest wind might have stayed about thirty feet above the ground in most instances, very strange. Not many things on the ground were moved like small potted plants or even garbage cans or garden chairs.
A lot of the trees were snapped or the bigger ones were pushed over, with their entire root systems still intact. Most locals claim that there MUST have been tornadoes, since tornadoes are not a rarity to Texas by any means. Whether services stated that there were NO tornadoes, which by the way, are synonymous with hurricanes. Some of the trees (pines esp.) were twisted mid way up their trunks, not snapped, not pushed over, but twisted and still connected to the upper portion of the tree, like you would see after a tornado strike.
A woman said that she spoke with a person at FEMA on the phone and the person told her that they had LEARNED after hurricane Katrina, "they just don't dole out checks to just anyone." FEMA's response in there area is pathetic accord to many locals in the area. One car on the side of the road has spay painted on it "FEMA SUCKS."
I personally, just today, had a FEMA representative(very professional and kind) come out to survey the damage to my home and personal belongings, which were not bad at all considering the greater scope of other's loses. There are millions of people who live in the Houston, Galveston and surrounding areas, and for the most part, I personally think that FEMA has done well, considering also that they are a government agency. Many people DID receive water and FOOD, and there were lots of programs going on for people to take advantage of.
The men who came in from out of town to help fix the service wires were most nice and courteous. The people of the area were very hospitable to anyone who came in to help and were glad to see them. I was without electricity for two weeks, yet remained in pretty good spirits considering I was able to work my normal schedule as well, take (cold)showers and eat. I likened it to camping out. I had two flash lights and a portable DVD player. However, not so many people were as lucky, but for they main part, most people were very nice, helping, and charitable throughout this crises.
We knew we were in this altogether, therefore the only other sensible thing to do was to help each other through. Texas culture is a might bit different than the rest of the country, in case you haven't noticed already.
They can call that storm a Cat 2 all they like, and even say it had CAT 3 winds, but I went through Hurricane Alicia, a CAT 3, and it was nothing compared to Ike.
A repair lineman for Texas-New Mexico power company said the damage done was worse than Katrina! Fortunately, even mobile homes in my area suffered little damage, even leaving windows unbroken...it was the trees that were severely damaged. Unbelievable! Ike was selective in its destruction in that it might take a large tree down and leave an unprotected potted plant alone. Weird, just weird!
Telephone linemen, brought in from out-of-state, said they would be in the area (including Galveston, San Leon, Bacliff, Kemah and up along the channel) until around Christmas. Many of those folks are living under tents, everything they had being swept away. Where are the mobile homes for them from FEMA?
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 519462 10/14/2008 5:16 AM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 287857 10/14/2008 1:21 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
From the other thread:
IKE update: Why are they lying about...
Quote
the deaths?
Its a control thing I understand. But really what else could it be related to?
We are contractors. So we got in first.
Seabrook Texas--
The community is reporting 800 missing families. These were people who were known to have stayed.
Matagorda all the way to LA...
Battered to toothpicks. From the beach in land to 7 miles.
Few structures left intact enough to call "remodel" "repair". 99% of all buildings are complete re-builds. The real report is 4200 bodies recovered in the water. 300 more not recovered-total so far known dead/missing bodies, is 4500.
7-10 miles inland--
80% of all structures have damage. We are stripping the first 4' of sheetrock(flooding)to the struts. All flooring, many roofs. Trees and power lines are still being repaired.
Most of the "media" reports that dealt with Center point misled, they just didn't tell you they were not repaired but jury-rig to get power up. Some wires are on roofs and hanging to the ground so cars can pass over. This stretches for hundreds of miles along the coast. Every town was hit. The inlets and bays got it worse because of the water bore. Height at that point exceeded 20'.
10-25 miles inland--
Damage still to power lines. Trees still down. Most of the homes escaped major damage. Rate of structural repair drops significantly--2-4%.
25-35--inclusive of Houston...
Power outage to Houston small residential sections was the longest to repair. Reason: Houses are so close together that the trees fell on the houses and the power lines without fail. In order to repair they had to use cranes MOST of the time to lift large pieces of tree and pole OVER THE HOUSE to get them IN and OUT of the close packed yards.
While the workers for Center Point went above and beyond the call of duty, the same CANNOT be said for the company, or company policy, itself. That is inclusive of Reliant E.
The other utility companies, including Direct Tv are every bit as bad.
The credit card and bank companies are the worse of the lot. CHASE is absolutely flagrant.
While the PTB supposed called them to call a break on the bill for the area. And in fact one bill has the due date as "N/A". All are applying late fees, all are requiring a full month payment despite not running a full month. Yes, SOME are giving you time, but they are applying late fees per their usual schedule.
FEMA pulled out of my area in 2 days. We got 1 meal and a bottle of water. We had no power for more than a week.
Pep Boys sold us a generator--UST 3500W(anyone that can find the company/maker please let me know-post it)Would ONLY ACCEPT CASH--accepted no return, no refund. Generator never worked--Pep boys main office do not reply to my queries.
Reports of looting scarce during the storm but in Seabrook this last week the cops have their hands full. Arrested more than 50 Hispanics who came out of Pasadena, and drove along the street picking up the surviving items home owners had salvaged all these weeks as they cleaned. The(toothpick like) debris stretches from the front door to the street. So they are putting the "keepers" they find as they pick through, along the street. The Mexicans are driving by, jumping out of the trucks, and grabbing/running.
Homeland security--like in Katrina we have reports of guns seized out of their cabinets and being destroyed. People were forcibly removed, and with loaded guns pointing. All of this was AFTER the storm, not before.
The media is still not reporting the deaths, and entire families are missing. Only neighbors are counting who they knew stayed or got stranded by the water.
The flooding of the seawall started 26 hours before the storm was due. What happened is they(reporters) kept changing the "due" time to earlier and earlier. They INSISTED it was not storm surge even after it topped the wall. And because they contradicted themselves by reporting the storm as a 2, people did not believe it was a bad storm until they saw the water and flooding start. The water rises quickly, and therefore they were stranded hours earlier than they expected the storm. Many were still tying things down, (no rain-remember the storm was hours away)and they found the roads cut off.
I'm posting to let you know when someone around you talks of this, tell them that a contractor in the area reports this. Curfew in many places is now lifted but few have driven over the entire territory in these last weeks the way a contractor does. Because the news media is whipped, people in the very areas I'm talking about are uninformed of these things. They are isolated. Quoting: AQ 7 508682

for truth
as I have said-thousands died |
| The_Venerable User ID: 412220 (OP) 10/28/2008 11:24 AM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | It's been a month and a half and still nothing from the authorities or media. Criminal. |
| PPDOG User ID: 559336 11/25/2008 10:59 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote | Edith Storck, on that list can't or couldn't have been missing as she was featured on an AP and AFP story during the hurricane, with her in the hotel |
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