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Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action
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<October> 
User ID: 427959
9/18/2008 4:44 PM
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Hope everyone's doing okay...
This link takes you to satellite pics of the Texas and Louisiana coasts; they (NOAA) are continually adding more areas.
Click on a box which takes you to that area. Then click on one of those boxes.
It'll give you a larger pic which you can magnify. It shows pretty much everything. Individual houses, etc.
[link to ngs.woc.noaa.gov]
Best wishes to all! 
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I Serve The Lady
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For Goodness' Sake
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anonymous 2
User ID: 505969
9/18/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/18/2008 5:06 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
Hope everyone's doing okay...
This link takes you to satellite pics of the Texas and Louisiana coasts; they (NOAA) are continually adding more areas.
Click on a box which takes you to that area. Then click on one of those boxes.
It'll give you a larger pic which you can magnify. It shows pretty much everything. Individual houses, etc.
[ link to ngs.woc.noaa.gov]
Best wishes to all!
Wow. That's a great link. Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/18/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees. Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
Thanks. Been trying to tell folks on this board that - and they accuse me of being a neocon!
Geez. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502659
9/18/2008 5:17 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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anonymous 2
User ID: 505969
9/18/2008 5:24 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
The death toll, on the other hand, is what I am worried about. So many folks on other forums looking for missing people. Doesn't look good. Why is there no estimated dead or estimated missing data??? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506041
9/18/2008 5:28 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
since there are so many "repo" houses out there, why not let the refugees live in them? |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
9/18/2008 5:29 PM
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Hope everyone's doing okay...
This link takes you to satellite pics of the Texas and Louisiana coasts; they (NOAA) are continually adding more areas.
Click on a box which takes you to that area. Then click on one of those boxes.
It'll give you a larger pic which you can magnify. It shows pretty much everything. Individual houses, etc.
[ link to ngs.woc.noaa.gov]
Best wishes to all!
Wow. That's a great link. Thank you.
Glad you liked it, AC... 
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I Serve The Lady
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For Goodness' Sake
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505971
9/18/2008 5:32 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees. Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
That would be good news.
Any supporting links to back up your claim?
Or is this a disinformation post. |
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RHSC
User ID: 493346
9/18/2008 5:34 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I caught the tail end of a report about "cadaver" search teams, then they cut to Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas' press conference.
The teams (3 of them) will be searching a large portion of Chambers County, which is north and across from Bolivar and the hardest hit parts of the shoreline there. They do expect to find bodies, but it's going to be a long, hard process because they are searching marsh areas.
[link to maroonspoon.com]
Then Wayne Dolcefino filed another report from Bolivar.
They are, once again, talking recovery of bodies. "The government clearly doesn't want us to see what's happening here." Judge James Sylvia, of Chambers County, says "Starting today, we're out searching for bodies, and I know we're goin' to find some."
Dolcefino's report is the first one on the linked page here:
[link to abclocal.go.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506025
9/18/2008 5:42 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
as someone pointed out on another thread, how did the cows survive, certainly not in attics and secondly, the biohazard lab building is adorned with a star inside a pyramid on the front of the fascade, as I was watching some of the news programs, especially the one with the journalist questioning the gov., there was a pyramid in the background on the board, i'm sure it was showing quadrants, but real interesting.... Quoting: impetigo 457333
Now that is definitely important information!
Do we even have a "United States" anymore?
Are we under complete control of the UN now? From what I've read in other threads, the UN owns most of our "federal" parks.
So many pieces to this puzzle. (sigh)
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/18/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees.
That would be good news.
Any supporting links to back up your claim?
Or is this a disinformation post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 505971
Here you go:
[link to utmbinfo.com]
Here are some other interesting links about the facilities:
[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]
[link to www.semp.us]
[link to utmbcare.com] |
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anonymous 2
User ID: 505969
9/18/2008 5:52 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
That's a great link to verify my claim, coward. I did not think I was going to be able to find links because UTMB's website is basically down except for alerts/info for faculty. But I do work there and what you have posted - there is no research in that building yet - is the truth. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505078
9/18/2008 5:54 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I caught the tail end of a report about "cadaver" search teams, then they cut to Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas' press conference.
The teams (3 of them) will be searching a large portion of Chambers County, which is north and across from Bolivar and the hardest hit parts of the shoreline there. They do expect to find bodies, but it's going to be a long, hard process because they are searching marsh areas.
[ link to maroonspoon.com]
Then Wayne Dolcefino filed another report from Bolivar.
They are, once again, talking recovery of bodies. "The government clearly doesn't want us to see what's happening here." Judge James Sylvia, of Chambers County, says "Starting today, we're out searching for bodies, and I know we're goin' to find some."
Dolcefino's report is the first one on the linked page here:
[ link to abclocal.go.com]
good info
thanks |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 113248
9/18/2008 6:12 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees. Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
Not understanding this at all.
You say there was NO research going on in the building.
Not trying to be contradictive, but why did the University make this statement to CNN -
[link to www.cnn.com]
The pathogens, which include the deadly ebola virus, were purposely destroyed before the staff left the facility in advance of the hurricane, said Gov. Rick Perry's spokesman, Andrew Barlow.
And a one more question if you don't mind...
What "animals" had to be secured with dry ice and why would the University's website ask that certain level employees show up for dry ice placement? Don't know much about this type of work. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506062
9/18/2008 6:14 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
BIO leak its why they wil not let anyoen in they are trying to contain it and cover it up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491704
 I just saw on the news,a Navy ship helping out,10's of thousands without food or water..........  |
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AQ 7
User ID: 506025
9/18/2008 6:14 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
Mods!!!
Why isn't this thread flagged???????
This thread should stay on the front page (flagged) until the coverup is fully exposed! imho |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
9/18/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I work at UTMB. There are many labs in existence on UTMB campus with lots of animals, viruses, etc. But there is no biolevel safety 4 lab that is in use currently. The level 4 lab has just been built, but there is no research going on in there yet. They were still in process of finishing the landscaping around the building and offering tours to the employees.
Not understanding this at all.
You say there was NO research going on in the building.
Not trying to be contradictive, but why did the University make this statement to CNN -
[ link to www.cnn.com]
The pathogens, which include the deadly ebola virus, were purposely destroyed before the staff left the facility in advance of the hurricane, said Gov. Rick Perry's spokesman, Andrew Barlow.
And a one more question if you don't mind...
What "animals" had to be secured with dry ice and why would the University's website ask that certain level employees show up for dry ice placement? Don't know much about this type of work.
Different facility (similar function - but not the same), located within the same campus. The GNL had not yet begun operations. |
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The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/18/2008 6:17 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I caught the tail end of a report about "cadaver" search teams, then they cut to Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas' press conference.
The teams (3 of them) will be searching a large portion of Chambers County, which is north and across from Bolivar and the hardest hit parts of the shoreline there. They do expect to find bodies, but it's going to be a long, hard process because they are searching marsh areas.
[ link to maroonspoon.com]
Then Wayne Dolcefino filed another report from Bolivar.
They are, once again, talking recovery of bodies. "The government clearly doesn't want us to see what's happening here." Judge James Sylvia, of Chambers County, says "Starting today, we're out searching for bodies, and I know we're goin' to find some."
Dolcefino's report is the first one on the linked page here:
[ link to abclocal.go.com]
Wayne Dolfecino is the man. He gets a lot of hell I guess down there for being outspoken, but he has been doing a hell of a job holding officials accountable.
I did think he could've been a bit more respectful of people's property when he was on Bolivar, though.
But that being said, he and Miya Shay have been awesome for ABC 13 there. If this story doesn't break soon, I will try to contact him again to volunteer my services. I called there once but was unable to get in touch with him. |
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anonymous 2
User ID: 505969
9/18/2008 6:35 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
I don't know details about all the labs at UTMB. But I can tell you about my lab. I do not work with any pathogens at all, but I do have animals in the lab. They were taken to a secure area where they would be safe. They do not have any sort of diseases, we just want them to be safe. I do have tissue samples and chemicals that require freezing. Every lab has a freezer at -80 degrees Celsius to keep these tissue/cell samples and chemicals in. They are not pathogenic in any way, but need to remain frozen for stability in order to use them. With loss of power, these samples can thaw and ruin months/years of research. The dry ice is used to preserve these chemicals and tissue samples in the event of loss of electrical/generator power.
I can tell you that some research into HIV and maybe ebola use portions of the virus, but not the complete virus. These portions of the virus are not pathogenic but simply have some properties of the virus that are being studied. It may be these "viruses" that they are speaking of. There are probably some pathogenic viruses being studied at UTMB not being housed in the GNL - in biosafety level 3 labs. These viruses are not the highly communicable and deadly viruses such as ebola.
It is simply a more interesting story if the lab had just opened and research had to be halted. I do not work in the GNL, nor did I have plans to work in it. But I walked past it every day as it was being built. It did not appear to be open. I still saw construction workers entering and leaving it. The week before the hurricane, the railings on the steps were just put in and the grass around the building was planted. Employees of the hospital got an invitation by email to have a guided tour of the facility - these tours had not yet taken place and I had signed up. I can not believe that there would be deadly viruses in the building before the hospital would have employee tours into the building - employees who do not have training or clearance for a biosafety level 4 building.
The labs at UTMB are not something to worry about. |
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Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
9/18/2008 7:04 PM
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It did not appear to be open. I still saw construction workers entering and leaving it. The week before the hurricane, the railings on the steps were just put in and the grass around the building was planted. Employees of the hospital got an invitation by email to have a guided tour of the facility - these tours had not yet taken place and I had signed up. I can not believe that there would be deadly viruses in the building before the hospital would have employee tours into the building - employees who do not have training or clearance for a biosafety level 4 building.
The labs at UTMB are not something to worry about. Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
Thanks so much for the explanation and your time!
I believe you...but the CNN article and the words "quoted" from CDC officials and Homeland Security give indication of something entirely different.
[link to www.cnn.com]
I guess when those of us not accustomed to this type of work read things like the CNN article combined with the messages coming out of the University's Emergency Responses we become concerned, naturally.
Thanks again and best of luck to you and yours.
We are pulling for each and every one of you. |
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anonymous 2
User ID: 505969
9/18/2008 7:13 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
It is scary to know that these places even exist. It is very scary to work next to one and think of a leak. Those of us who live/work on the island talk about scary scenarios where the bridge to the mainland is taken out and the island is bombed when a deadly virus escapes. Believe me, we think about those situations. But right now, there is nothing going on there. |
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Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
9/18/2008 7:17 PM
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It is scary to know that these places even exist. It is very scary to work next to one and think of a leak. Those of us who live/work on the island talk about scary scenarios where the bridge to the mainland is taken out and the island is bombed when a deadly virus escapes. Believe me, we think about those situations. But right now, there is nothing going on there. Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
I wouldn't even want to imagine one of those scenarios, especially if I worked or lived near a lab like this.
Was just reading an article about the lab in Atlanta and the outrage coming from local residents a year or two ago.
I guess we all have something to contend with in this life.
I not only live in hurricane alley, but CANCER alley!
Highest cancer rate in America.
Thanks again...take care of yourself. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 364572
9/18/2008 7:26 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
[link to www.wtopnews.com]
By The Associated Press
(AP) - Authorities have reported a total of 56 deaths in 11 states as Ike moved from Texas northeastward across the U.S.:
Texas _ 22, including at least five in Harris County from carbon monoxide poisoning and a utility worker crushed by a tree while clearing downed lines north of Houston.
Louisiana _ six, including two contractors who were electrocuted.
Tennessee _ two, both golfers killed by a falling tree.
Arkansas _ one, a man killed by a tree falling on a mobile home.
Ohio _ six, including five by falling trees and one person electrocuted while working on a generator.
Indiana _ seven, including a father and son killed helping children escape from a ditch.
Illinois _ two, including an elderly man found in a flooded backyard.
Missouri _ four, including a woman struck by a tree limb and an elderly man suspected of drowning in a flooded yard.
Kentucky _ two, a 10-year-old boy struck by a tree limb while mowing a lawn and a woman exposed to carbon monoxide fumes from a generator at her home.
Pennsylvania _ two, a 46-year-old man struck by tree limb while helping remove a large tree from a house, and a 43-year-old utility worker who was electrocuted when he stepped on a live wire while working to repair power lines.
Michigan _ two, a 1-year-old boy apparently drowned in a stormwater-filled ditch near Auburn, Mich., and a 15-year-old killed when his all-terrain vehicle crashed into a hidden ravine created by storm water. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506087
9/18/2008 7:30 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
The death toll, on the other hand, is what I am worried about. So many folks on other forums looking for missing people. Doesn't look good. Why is there no estimated dead or estimated missing data??? Quoting: anonymous 2 505969
it's a little more than 4,200 dead. thats why the media blackout. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452582
9/18/2008 7:55 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/18/2008 8:36 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
Good evening Southern. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 452582
9/18/2008 9:22 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
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The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/18/2008 10:29 PM | | Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action | Quote |
For truth. |
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Beingsouthern
User ID: 113248
9/18/2008 10:34 PM
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Good evening Southern. Quoting: The_Venerable 412220
Evening, Ven. |
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