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Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to Action

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The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/19/2008 10:59 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

And that's the list just for Bolivar Peninsula...there's also a list for Crystal Beach and on and on...


Hi Southern. Yeah, I heard Oak Island was basically destroyed too, in addition to Gilchrist, Crystal Beach, etc.

Here is a picture of Gilchrist. Scroll down and it's in the middle of the page somewhere:

[link to www.hardcoreweather.com]

Those were all houses there about a week ago.

Yeah, I've seen them.
Following this carefully.
The area over the salt dome...where was that?
Can't remember. That was hit hard too.


Hey...one of the newspapers called me yesterday, to verify my phone number and name!
They're going to publish my letter to the editor.
I was quite surprised. I was really no biggie.
 Quoting: Beingsouthern


That's great! Hopefully you'll post the article when they run it.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/19/2008 11:01 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Hi BS. We're powered up again. It was the west side of town that had lack of FEMA, water, ice. On the fourth day, we had to drive to Katy, west of here to get more ice and food. But, our damage was light mostly, just water and power problems.

Anyone who hasn't been to this thread, a few of us there went through the storm.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Bob Sherman , a poster from Bolivar who was keeping us updated last Friday, barely survived. A huge wall of water came through their house, and almost swept he and his wife away. More on that at the thread link above.

I'm from Winnie, Chambers County, where many on the Bolivar evac'd to, about 15 miles inland. Without doing a thorough read, I already recognize some names on the missing list.
A few evac'd have said there are hundreds missing. There is no way to ever completely account for them. They are now going through southern Chambers County on horseback and airboats looking for bodies. It isn't the first time, and it won't be the last.
These people were trapped. The water came up over the road about 24 hours before what is typical.

The beach towns are gone, wiped on the map. It makes me so very sad to see it all. I've never seen it this bad after a hurricane.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/19/2008 11:01 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Hi BS. We're powered up again. It was the west side of town that had lack of FEMA, water, ice. On the fourth day, we had to drive to Katy, west of here to get more ice and food. But, our damage was light mostly, just water and power problems.

Anyone who hasn't been to this thread, a few of us there went through the storm.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Bob Sherman , a poster from Bolivar who was keeping us updated last Friday, barely survived. A huge wall of water came through their house, and almost swept he and his wife away. More on that at the thread link above.

I'm from Winnie, Chambers County, where many on the Bolivar evac'd to, about 15 miles inland. Without doing a thorough read, I already recognize some names on the missing list.
A few evac'd have said there are hundreds missing. There is no way to ever completely account for them. They are now going through southern Chambers County on horseback and airboats looking for bodies. It isn't the first time, and it won't be the last.
These people were trapped. The water came up over the road about 24 hours before what is typical.

The beach towns are gone, wiped on the map. It makes me so very sad to see it all. I've never seen it this bad after a hurricane.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357364
9/19/2008 11:03 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Wow, what fuck is going on there?!?! Are there really 100's of people missing still?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506832
9/19/2008 11:04 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

And that's the list just for Bolivar Peninsula...there's also a list for Crystal Beach and on and on...

Have those names are not even real...

tomato

You should fight your battles and let us fight the ones we think are important. Each to his or her own...
IS that so difficult or does being a total asshole just come natural for you?
 Quoting: Beingsouthern


the total asshole is just one more thing that's gotten out of control

kissup
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/19/2008 11:09 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Hi BS. We're powered up again. It was the west side of town that had lack of FEMA, water, ice. On the fourth day, we had to drive to Katy, west of here to get more ice and food. But, our damage was light mostly, just water and power problems.

Anyone who hasn't been to this thread, a few of us there went through the storm.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Bob Sherman , a poster from Bolivar who was keeping us updated last Friday, barely survived. A huge wall of water came through their house, and almost swept he and his wife away. More on that at the thread link above.

I'm from Winnie, Chambers County, where many on the Bolivar evac'd to, about 15 miles inland. Without doing a thorough read, I already recognize some names on the missing list.
A few evac'd have said there are hundreds missing. There is no way to ever completely account for them. They are now going through southern Chambers County on horseback and airboats looking for bodies. It isn't the first time, and it won't be the last.
These people were trapped. The water came up over the road about 24 hours before what is typical.

The beach towns are gone, wiped on the map. It makes me so very sad to see it all. I've never seen it this bad after a hurricane.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817


Hi TU...very sorry to hear about all of the losses down there. I wish you a speedy recovery.

We've been trying to get more attention on this since last weekend. It's clear the government does not want any attention paid to the issue. I understand the need to stay out of the way of first responders, the need to be respectful of bodies, etc. but by all accounts they have gone way beyond that.

And this seems like another Katrina. For that storm, there was a lot of media attention to hold the government accountable, and lots of benefit concerts and telethons to raise money for victims and recovery. This time...nothing. Nothing for you folks down there in Texas.

Hopefully we can change that.
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/19/2008 11:10 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Wow, what fuck is going on there?!?! Are there really 100's of people missing still?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357364


Yes, just in that area. All told, hundreds missing maybe more than that but I hope not.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357364
9/19/2008 11:14 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Wow, what fuck is going on there?!?! Are there really 100's of people missing still?


Yes, just in that area. All told, hundreds missing maybe more than that but I hope not.
 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220

That's so sad. The truth has to come out eventually.
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 113248
9/19/2008 11:15 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Hi BS. We're powered up again. It was the west side of town that had lack of FEMA, water, ice. On the fourth day, we had to drive to Katy, west of here to get more ice and food. But, our damage was light mostly, just water and power problems.

Anyone who hasn't been to this thread, a few of us there went through the storm.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Bob Sherman , a poster from Bolivar who was keeping us updated last Friday, barely survived. A huge wall of water came through their house, and almost swept he and his wife away. More on that at the thread link above.

I'm from Winnie, Chambers County, where many on the Bolivar evac'd to, about 15 miles inland. Without doing a thorough read, I already recognize some names on the missing list.
A few evac'd have said there are hundreds missing. There is no way to ever completely account for them. They are now going through southern Chambers County on horseback and airboats looking for bodies. It isn't the first time, and it won't be the last.
These people were trapped. The water came up over the road about 24 hours before what is typical.

The beach towns are gone, wiped on the map. It makes me so very sad to see it all. I've never seen it this bad after a hurricane.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817

Oh, honey...all of that breaks my heart.

I know...there was nothing typical or usual about Ike.
It is heartbreaking...and so many hurt for the good people of Texas.

Ven has been following this closely and more than most I think.
He's been keeping the forum updated.
And let me say...so have many here at GLP.
We are SOOO glad you are safe and sound...and home at GLP with us again.

If there is anything we can do for you, please let us know.
I mean that.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/19/2008 11:33 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Thanks for all the good wishes, BS. I know you've been through this in NO.
We're all right here. It was only several days of inconvenience and a little discomfort for us.
So many have it is so very much worse. The more east you go, the worse it gets.
I went back to look at the list, and there are a double handful of names I recognize. One is related to a cousin in law who originally came from High Island. A few are from ranching families in Winnie.
I was concerned for a couple of my cousins, both doctors, grew up in Winnie, who may have gone to do storm prep at their weekend place between Smith Point & Oak Island, right on the water. I'm thankful they aren't on the list.
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/19/2008 11:37 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Thanks for all the good wishes, BS. I know you've been through this in NO.
We're all right here. It was only several days of inconvenience and a little discomfort for us.
So many have it is so very much worse. The more east you go, the worse it gets.
I went back to look at the list, and there are a double handful of names I recognize. One is related to a cousin in law who originally came from High Island. A few are from ranching families in Winnie.
I was concerned for a couple of my cousins, both doctors, grew up in Winnie, who may have gone to do storm prep at their weekend place between Smith Point & Oak Island, right on the water. I'm thankful they aren't on the list.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817


TU, I hope your cousins are safe.

I've heard some parts of Smith Point fared relatively well while others were hit hard, especially Little Baytown was heavily damaged or destroyed. Oak Island was 95% destroyed or worse.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/19/2008 11:42 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Thanks Ven, sounds like you have been doing the 'heavy lifting' on information lately.
We only had radio for while. It was very isolating. without tv, the words can't convey the damage. It's stunning, shocking. All around the bay area, the damage is as if bombs were dropped. But, had the storm gone in on the other side of Galveston, it would have been worse.

The former head of the NHC who does hurricane broadcast at KHOU, said it was a Cat 2 with winds said to be 110, but he thinks it may have gone Cat 3 at the last minute.
He said that the storm surge was that of a Cat4-5 storm. It is being compared to the 1900 storm in that respect.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/19/2008 11:51 PM
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TU, I hope your cousins are safe.

I've heard some parts of Smith Point fared relatively well while others were hit hard, especially Little Baytown was heavily damaged or destroyed. Oak Island was 95% destroyed or worse.
 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220



Thanks Ven. Their dad was the only doctor in the area for many years. He helped finance Brezinski, partnered to do cancer research.
If they were missing, it would be known. I haven't heard anything, names not on any list I've seen.
The sheriff, and a JP both said that many of those in Oak Island are gone, as in swept away.

The family that has the oyster & shrimping company at Smith Point faired well. It's on the water. They have an old hut like restaurant & little store there too. It's a great place to eat, and looks like will remain so. You sit at a picnic bench with anyone who's there. Then they lay newspaper on the table and pour mounds of shrimp and oysters on the table. It's pretty cool !
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 113248
9/19/2008 11:53 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Thanks Ven, sounds like you have been doing the 'heavy lifting' on information lately.
We only had radio for while. It was very isolating. without tv, the words can't convey the damage. It's stunning, shocking. All around the bay area, the damage is as if bombs were dropped. But, had the storm gone in on the other side of Galveston, it would have been worse.

The former head of the NHC who does hurricane broadcast at KHOU, said it was a Cat 2 with winds said to be 110, but he thinks it may have gone Cat 3 at the last minute.
He said that the storm surge was that of a Cat4-5 storm. It is being compared to the 1900 storm in that respect.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817

They are now thinking of changing the way they categorize storms...because although a cat. 2 doesn't sound that bad, the size of Ike was enormous and to call him a cat 2 was misleading...at the very least.

They DO need to change this and before next hurricane season
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/19/2008 11:53 PM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Thanks Ven, sounds like you have been doing the 'heavy lifting' on information lately.
We only had radio for while. It was very isolating. without tv, the words can't convey the damage. It's stunning, shocking. All around the bay area, the damage is as if bombs were dropped. But, had the storm gone in on the other side of Galveston, it would have been worse.

The former head of the NHC who does hurricane broadcast at KHOU, said it was a Cat 2 with winds said to be 110, but he thinks it may have gone Cat 3 at the last minute.
He said that the storm surge was that of a Cat4-5 storm. It is being compared to the 1900 storm in that respect.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817


Yes, I followed the storm before landfall too, and while the last advisory had max winds at 110mph (max Cat2) and the storm made landfall 10 minutes after that, I'm pretty sure in post-analysis they will upgrade to a Cat 3. There was already evidence that it was a Cat3, some of us were surprised the NHC didn't increase earlier that night.

The storm surge was the big thing though. Dr. Jeff Masters has composed a surge scale, 1-6 with 6 the highest. Back on Friday he said Katrina was a 5.1 and Ike was a 5.6.

It was very much a Cat5 surge, easily identifiable from the pictures on the pensinsula. Fortunately, the storm did not make landfall further west. Up until an hour or so before the eye reached Galveston (not the center, which was landfall) a lot of us thought it would come in around Jamaica Beach. Can't imagine what would have happened to Galveston and the Bay area had that occurred.

Very tough for Bolivar and surrounding areas, but thankfully most of the really really strong surge wound up in uninhabited areas between High Island and Sabine Pass.

I wonder if they will use the surge scale along with the wind scale in future hurricanes? I think some people stayed because it was "only a Cat2".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/20/2008 12:14 AM
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This is an incomplete list of those currently missing from Bolivar Peninsula. It is not meant to be an official list. Some of the names listed are probably ok just not accounted for, and some missing persons are probably not on here yet.

Sorry it isn't alphabetized right, but I didn't do it. I'm just pasting.

Bolivar Pensinsula
MISSING:


Adam Neis, employee (?) of Bob Anderson
Alex
Andie Silcox
Andy Shinker
Barry Shaw
Beverly Mizzell
Billy & Harold White
Brad
Brenda Kahla
Carol & PJ Vidrine & family, Gilchrist
Cooter
Dale Seevers
Danielle & Florence Winkle
David Loop, and entire family
Debra and father Fritz
Don Holmes
Donna Werner and Lauren
Dud at Decoux's
Ellen skidmore
Frank Carr on O'Neill Road
Gail Ettenger
Gary and Glenda
Gary Tomberlin
Gene Russell on Gregory Ln.
Glen (Red)
Glennis Dunn
Glennis Dunn
Gloria (Cottage by the Sea)
Herman & Mrs. Shaver on East Canal
Hippie Mike
Jennifer McLemore
Jennifer McLemore
Jerry Shook
Jessica Jock & family
Jim Vratis
Kayla's
Kelly and Anna Pierce (plus kids?)
Lee Carrington (Black Lee!)
Lynnette Hardcastle
Magdeleana (Nena) Strickland
Marcia, massage therapist
Mario (Tovar?) & family, the chef at Stingaree
Marion Arrambide
Mary & Larry Rogers
Micaks
Micheal and kids
Michelle & Colin Cannon
Mike Frederick
Millenders
Miss Rose in Bolivar
Omar Tovar
Paul Vance
Pee Wee Moseley
Phyllis Walker
Rachel Baker
Robert Grebb
Robert Grebb
Robert Lee (Bubby), Gail, Gina
Robert Nail, and wife
Rodriguez's
Ronnie Lee
Rosa of Dolphin Road
Sandie Walton
Sandra & Sonny Walker
Sandy & David Fortenberry
Shane Williams
Shirley Cttrell
Shrimp Lady on Waco
Steve Moore & family
Steve, friend of David Pickett
The Kings, in Gilchrist
Tom & Daniela
Tommy Comeaux
Veronica Felty
Walt Fisher
Wanda of Crystal Canal RV Park
Will on Yucca
 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220


Edit: This is only a list based on the KHOU forums. Unless someone got in touch with one of the local neighborhood type leaders on that forum, their name is not on it.

It is entirely possible that some on the list are accounted for by their loved ones. Those on the list, their loved ones said they were missing and were searching for them...perhaps they are o.k. and not yet located, perhaps they have been found but the family did not update the local community leaders.

Other missing persons would not be on the list unless their family contacted these people on the KHOU forum.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/20/2008 12:15 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Yes, they've said that the Saffir-Simpson scale needs to be retired. If you have lived near the Gulf coast, then to have a Cat 2 coming at you is usually a shelter in place storm. Nerve wracking, but doable.
I think if they would just tell us the expected wind speed & gust speed, with expected tide levels and surge forecast, we'd know better what we need to do.
This was more than that, and it seemed like it took forever for it to blow through.
TX P was really lucky that that no trees did damage on their property.
It's about as weird as the penny that showed up in the middle of my balcony.
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/20/2008 12:22 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Yes, they've said that the Saffir-Simpson scale needs to be retired. If you have lived near the Gulf coast, then to have a Cat 2 coming at you is usually a shelter in place storm. Nerve wracking, but doable.
I think if they would just tell us the expected wind speed & gust speed, with expected tide levels and surge forecast, we'd know better what we need to do.
This was more than that, and it seemed like it took forever for it to blow through.
TX P was really lucky that that no trees did damage on their property.
It's about as weird as the penny that showed up in the middle of my balcony.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817


From an outsiders perspective, it seemed like some of the local government dropped the ball too. I know the mayor of Galveston told people at first to stay, then didn't issue an evacuation until Thursday. Then she tried to blame "bad forecasts" after.

It's not like people hear first thing on Thursday morning they need to go, and it's not like they can just leave either. Takes time to prepare and board up and everything.

I know some people chose to stay, but others got cut off. On another forum, a lady said her sister's friend in San Leon got trapped by floodwaters when she woke up Friday morning and had already retreated to her roof. I saw her post that at noon last Friday, the woman was on her roof calling for a rescue and panicking and calling her family. Never heard what happened to her.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506718
9/20/2008 12:50 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

This crap had been pinned for a week... fuck that... had enough exposure... bump it all day long if you wish.

This is what happens in natural disasters, deal with it.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 506616


AC 506616, you are slime. Lower than slime.
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506718
9/20/2008 1:12 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

This is an incomplete list of those currently missing from Bolivar Peninsula. It is not meant to be an official list. Some of the names listed are probably ok just not accounted for, and some missing persons are probably not on here yet.

Sorry it isn't alphabetized right, but I didn't do it. I'm just pasting.

Bolivar Pensinsula
MISSING:


Adam Neis, employee (?) of Bob Anderson
Alex
Andie Silcox
Andy Shinker
Barry Shaw
Beverly Mizzell
Billy & Harold White
Brad
Brenda Kahla
Carol & PJ Vidrine & family, Gilchrist
Cooter
Dale Seevers
Danielle & Florence Winkle
David Loop, and entire family
Debra and father Fritz
Don Holmes
Donna Werner and Lauren
Dud at Decoux's
Ellen skidmore
Frank Carr on O'Neill Road
Gail Ettenger
Gary and Glenda
Gary Tomberlin
Gene Russell on Gregory Ln.
Glen (Red)
Glennis Dunn
Glennis Dunn
Gloria (Cottage by the Sea)
Herman & Mrs. Shaver on East Canal
Hippie Mike
Jennifer McLemore
Jennifer McLemore
Jerry Shook
Jessica Jock & family
Jim Vratis
Kayla's
Kelly and Anna Pierce (plus kids?)
Lee Carrington (Black Lee!)
Lynnette Hardcastle
Magdeleana (Nena) Strickland
Marcia, massage therapist
Mario (Tovar?) & family, the chef at Stingaree
Marion Arrambide
Mary & Larry Rogers
Micaks
Micheal and kids
Michelle & Colin Cannon
Mike Frederick
Millenders
Miss Rose in Bolivar
Omar Tovar
Paul Vance
Pee Wee Moseley
Phyllis Walker
Rachel Baker
Robert Grebb
Robert Grebb
Robert Lee (Bubby), Gail, Gina
Robert Nail, and wife
Rodriguez's
Ronnie Lee
Rosa of Dolphin Road
Sandie Walton
Sandra & Sonny Walker
Sandy & David Fortenberry
Shane Williams
Shirley Cttrell
Shrimp Lady on Waco
Steve Moore & family
Steve, friend of David Pickett
The Kings, in Gilchrist
Tom & Daniela
Tommy Comeaux
Veronica Felty
Walt Fisher
Wanda of Crystal Canal RV Park
Will on Yucca
 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220


bump
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 506817
9/20/2008 1:47 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

It's surprising to see how many people moved from the small Winnie & Anahuac, & local ranches to the beach. I guess after years of storms that did little or no damage, people forget how devastating a bad hurricane can be. I sure do hope these folks turn up alive somewhere.
Most of these people have a lot of common sense. Usually you can get out of those areas as little as 12 hours before landfall, sometimes later than that. This storm was very unusual. It was the hi tide that helped the swells come in early during the early hours of Friday.
Parts of the beach road has been rebuilt and moved back a few times after storms.

On a lighter note, hundreds, maybe thousands of livestock, mostly cattle have been rescued, rounded up, and herded by ranchers & help up the main road towards green pastures and fresh water. There truly are real cowboys in these parts.
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/20/2008 1:50 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

It's surprising to see how many people moved from the small Winnie & Anahuac, & local ranches to the beach. I guess after years of storms that did little or no damage, people forget how devastating a bad hurricane can be. I sure do hope these folks turn up alive somewhere.
Most of these people have a lot of common sense. Usually you can get out of those areas as little as 12 hours before landfall, sometimes later than that. This storm was very unusual. It was the hi tide that helped the swells come in early during the early hours of Friday.
Parts of the beach road has been rebuilt and moved back a few times after storms.

On a lighter note, hundreds, maybe thousands of livestock, mostly cattle have been rescued, rounded up, and herded by ranchers & help up the main road towards green pastures and fresh water. There truly are real cowboys in these parts.
 Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 506817


They've also found a man with a lion, he and his lion holed up in a church somewhere on Bolivar and they all made it ok.
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/20/2008 1:57 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Again, sorry for the alphabetization, I'm just copying and pasting.

Updated....

Bolivar Peninsula
MISSING:


Adam Neis, employee (?) of Bob Anderson
Alex
Andie Silcox
Andy Shinker
Barry Shaw
Beverly Mizzell
Billy & Harold White
Brad
Brenda Kahla
Carol & PJ Vidrine & family, Gilchrist
Cooter
Dale Seevers
Danielle & Florence Winkle
Debra and father Fritz
Don Holmes
Donna Werner and Lauren
Dud at Decoux's
Ellen skidmore
Frank Carr on O'Neill Road
Gail Ettenger
Gary and Glenda
Gary Tomberlin
Gene Russell on Gregory Ln.
Glen (Red)
Glennis Dunn
Glennis Dunn
Gloria (Cottage by the Sea)
Herman & Mrs. Shaver on East Canal
Hippie Mike
Jennifer McLemore
Jennifer McLemore
Jerry Shook
Jessica Jock & family
Jim Vratis
Kayla's
Kelly and Anna Pierce (plus kids?)
Lee Carrington (Black Lee!)
Lynnette Hardcastle
Magdeleana (Nena) Strickland
Marcia, massage therapist
Mario (Tovar?) & family, the chef at Stingaree
Marion Arrambide
Mary & Larry Rogers
Micaks
Micheal and kids
Michelle & Colin Cannon
Millenders
Miss Rose in Bolivar
Omar Tovar
Paul Vance
Pee Wee Moseley
Phyllis Walker
Rachel Baker
Richard & Cheryl Hayes
Robert Grebb
Robert Grebb
Robert Lee (Bubby), Gail, Gina
Robert Nail & wife
Rodriguez's
Ronnie Lee
Rosa of Dolphin Road
Sandie Walton
Sandra & Sonny Walker
Sandy & David Fortenberry
Shane Williams
Shirley Cttrell
Shrimp Lady on Waco
Steve Moore & family
Steve, friend of David Pickett
The Kings, in Gilchrist
Tom & Daniela
Tommy Comeaux
Veronica Felty
Walt Fisher
Wanda of Crystal Canal RV Park
Will on Yucca
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506888
9/20/2008 2:02 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

I know some people chose to stay, but others got cut off. On another forum, a lady said her sister's friend in San Leon got trapped by floodwaters when she woke up Friday morning and had already retreated to her roof. I saw her post that at noon last Friday, the woman was on her roof calling for a rescue and panicking and calling her family. Never heard what happened to her.
 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220
LUBBOCK, TX -- Agriculture officials said late Tuesday they've found about 4,000 dead cows in portions of two Southeast Texas counties searched in the aftermath of Hurricane Ike.

Some cows left stranded or that perished might never be found, though.
"They're being eaten by alligators,"
said Kathleen Phillips, spokeswoman for the Texas AgriLife Extension Service.


Not a pleasant thought, but gators have also been eating people as long as records have been kept.

Ike's Missing May Have Just Washed Away
... some of those who haven't turned up could have been washed out to sea, ...
 Quoting: news.aol.com
The_Venerable
User ID: 412220 (OP)
9/20/2008 4:45 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Goodnight, GLP.

I promise to come back to this thread every time I sign off. Tell everyone you know about the cover-up. Every single person.

We must get the word out.

 Quoting: The_Venerable 412220



Well then, again.
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 113248
9/20/2008 5:01 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Night, Ven.
TX PATRIOT
User ID: 506675
9/20/2008 6:12 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

HHMMMMM....see bold text in article


45,000 given go-ahead to return to Galveston

By JUAN A. LOZANO and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN – 2 hours ago
[link to ap.google.com]

GALVESTON, Texas (AP) — One week after Hurricane Ike wiped out whole neighborhoods and nearly every basic service in Galveston, there is a plan to start letting some 45,000 evacuees back to their hobbled hometown.

Those who left heeded dire warnings to flee.

Now they've been given a new warning: Going home won't be easy.

No power, limited sewer services and spotty water utilities are among the trials that city officials say could await residents when a gradual reopening of Galveston begins next week.

"You will need to decide if you want to come back in those conditions," city manager Steve LeBlanc said Friday.

Residents will be allowed to return in phases, starting from the least damaged areas, primarily behind the seawall on the east side of the island, then out to the heavily damaged west end, he said.

There's only limited fuel and other supplies. But businesses are slowly beginning to open, electricity is coming back on and cell phone service is improving.

Residents of the harder-hit Boliviar Peninsula will also start seeing their homes next week, albeit for only a quick peek. And because the main road is impassible in many spots, residents will be loaded into dump trucks and other heavy vehicles for their tour.

Galveston County Judge Jim Yarbrough, the county's highest elected official, said 60 state troopers were patrolling the heavily damaged peninsula.

"We need the people's patience," Yarbrough said. "A lot of progress has been made. We're in a marathon. We're not in a 100-yard dash."

Authorities have long since finished searching for bodies on Galveston Island and the peninsula, though they cautioned more could be found. Authorities had blamed 57 deaths in the U.S. on Ike, 23 of them in Texas.

Power had been restored Friday to more than half the customers whose electricity was cut by Ike, though state officials said about 1.41 million remained in the dark.

The nation's fourth-largest city continues recovering. Houston schools that have been closed since Ike are to begin reopening Tuesday. All campuses are expected to be open by Sept. 29.

State Rep. Craig Eiland, who represents Galveston, said officials are trying to gather the thousands of cattle that have been roaming free since the storm surge receded. The water that remains is so salty it could kill animals that drink it, and the grass they would normally eat also has been tainted, he said.

NASA said Friday that flight control of the International Space Station was returning to the Johnson Space Center, which shut down a few days before Ike's strike but did not sustain significant damage.

More than 1 million people evacuated the Texas coast as Ike steamed across the Gulf of Mexico. Gov. Rick Perry said 20,500 people were still staying in 190 shelters Friday.

About 135,500 families had qualified for government-funded hotels, though fewer than 9,000 were checked in, said Richard Scorza, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Associated Press writers John McFarland, Chris Duncan and Paul J. Weber in Houston and Michelle Roberts in San Antonio contributed to this report.
Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 113248
9/20/2008 6:21 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

HHMMMMM....see bold text in article


45,000 given go-ahead to return to Galveston

By JUAN A. LOZANO and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN – 2 hours ago
[link to ap.google.com]

GALVESTON, Texas (AP) — One week after Hurricane Ike wiped out whole neighborhoods and nearly every basic service in Galveston, there is a plan to start letting some 45,000 evacuees back to their hobbled hometown.

Those who left heeded dire warnings to flee.

Now they've been given a new warning: Going home won't be easy.

No power, limited sewer services and spotty water utilities are among the trials that city officials say could await residents when a gradual reopening of Galveston begins next week.

"You will need to decide if you want to come back in those conditions," city manager Steve LeBlanc said Friday.

Residents will be allowed to return in phases, starting from the least damaged areas, primarily behind the seawall on the east side of the island, then out to the heavily damaged west end, he said.

There's only limited fuel and other supplies. But businesses are slowly beginning to open, electricity is coming back on and cell phone service is improving.

Residents of the harder-hit Boliviar Peninsula will also start seeing their homes next week, albeit for only a quick peek. And because the main road is impassible in many spots, residents will be loaded into dump trucks and other heavy vehicles for their tour.

Galveston County Judge Jim Yarbrough, the county's highest elected official, said 60 state troopers were patrolling the heavily damaged peninsula.

"We need the people's patience," Yarbrough said. "A lot of progress has been made. We're in a marathon. We're not in a 100-yard dash."

Authorities have long since finished searching for bodies on Galveston Island and the peninsula, though they cautioned more could be found. Authorities had blamed 57 deaths in the U.S. on Ike, 23 of them in Texas.

Power had been restored Friday to more than half the customers whose electricity was cut by Ike, though state officials said about 1.41 million remained in the dark.

The nation's fourth-largest city continues recovering. Houston schools that have been closed since Ike are to begin reopening Tuesday. All campuses are expected to be open by Sept. 29.

State Rep. Craig Eiland, who represents Galveston, said officials are trying to gather the thousands of cattle that have been roaming free since the storm surge receded. The water that remains is so salty it could kill animals that drink it, and the grass they would normally eat also has been tainted, he said.

NASA said Friday that flight control of the International Space Station was returning to the Johnson Space Center, which shut down a few days before Ike's strike but did not sustain significant damage.

More than 1 million people evacuated the Texas coast as Ike steamed across the Gulf of Mexico. Gov. Rick Perry said 20,500 people were still staying in 190 shelters Friday.

About 135,500 families had qualified for government-funded hotels, though fewer than 9,000 were checked in, said Richard Scorza, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Associated Press writers John McFarland, Chris Duncan and Paul J. Weber in Houston and Michelle Roberts in San Antonio contributed to this report.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 506675

Unfortunately, they "will" find more bodies.
So much rubble, it's just bound to happen.
And of course, there are those who washed out to sea.
No way that didn't happen.
Until an official missing person's list is compliled and people are accounted for...they just aren't going to know the numbers.

All of this, combined with the decisions to be made and rebuilding is going to be a constant and uphill battle for a very long time.

Thanks for the update.
Glad to hear people are at least allowed to see their homes or not...the not knowing is more than difficult.
TX PATRIOT
User ID: 506675
9/20/2008 6:31 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Unfortunately, they "will" find more bodies.
So much rubble, it's just bound to happen.
And of course, there are those who washed out to sea.
No way that didn't happen.
Until an official missing person's list is compliled and people are accounted for...they just aren't going to know the numbers.

All of this, combined with the decisions to be made and rebuilding is going to be a constant and uphill battle for a very long time.

Thanks for the update.
Glad to hear people are at least allowed to see their homes or not...the not knowing is more than difficult.
 Quoting: Beingsouthern


But Southern, why have they "long since finished searching for bodies on Galveston Island and the peninsula"? Only five days to go through that much debris including areas all along the Bay? I can understand stopping a rescue mission, but to halt a search this early doesn't really make sense to me.

But, yes, I am pleased that people will be able to return soon to at least begin the healing process.

Thanks for the well wishes on the thread I posted tonight. After re-reading, I noticed I failed to acknowledge you specifically. Much appreciation!

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Beingsouthern Subscriber
User ID: 113248
9/20/2008 6:39 AM
Re: Hurricane Ike Coverup: Call to ActionQuote

Unfortunately, they "will" find more bodies.
So much rubble, it's just bound to happen.
And of course, there are those who washed out to sea.
No way that didn't happen.
Until an official missing person's list is compliled and people are accounted for...they just aren't going to know the numbers.

All of this, combined with the decisions to be made and rebuilding is going to be a constant and uphill battle for a very long time.

Thanks for the update.
Glad to hear people are at least allowed to see their homes or not...the not knowing is more than difficult.


But Southern, why have they "long since finished searching for bodies on Galveston Island and the peninsula"? Only five days to go through that much debris including areas all along the Bay? I can understand stopping a rescue mission, but to halt a search this early doesn't really make sense to me.

But, yes, I am pleased that people will be able to return soon to at least begin the healing process.

Thanks for the well wishes on the thread I posted tonight. After re-reading, I noticed I failed to acknowledge you specifically. Much appreciation!

.
 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 506675

Wasn't expecting an acknowledgement, but you're quite welcome.

As for the recovery, no matter how large their manpower numbers, they'll never be able to search through all that rubble. What better way to find the dead than to allow the living back in. Sounds horrible, I know. That's what happened here and I think that is what is happening there now.

People in N.O. were screaming to come home, just like there. When they let the people back in, that's when they started to find MORE bodies, unfortunately.
I think they know many were washed out to sea.
Unlike N.O., where there was no place for the water to recede to, the bodies floated around in the water...was easy to find most of them. Not the same there. Again, I think the majority washed out to sea.

I hate saying all this, just trying to be realistic.
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