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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342855
9/26/2008 8:29 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Conservatives think I am a criminal for USING MY FREE CHOICE AND SMOKING POT
Conservatives printed "In God We Trust" on MY MONEY
Conservatives DONT WANT TO GIVE ME A CHOICE IN DYING BY MY OWN HAND WITH EUTHANASIA AND WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO WITH MY OWN BODY
Conservatives SAY I CANT HEAR "SHIT" ON THE RADIO
CONSERVATIVES CAN GOT TO HELL, UNAMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM CUNTS Quoting: Just a messenger
i see like most idiots, you believe the crap you are fed by the MSM |
| Compassionate Conservative
User ID: 429261
9/26/2008 8:30 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Liberals live in a different alternative "reality".
[link to www.thedissidentfrogman.com]
What they don't realize is conservatives don't need the stinking liberal "truths"
:finger: |
| KindaGamey 
Parsley Sage
User ID: 474302
9/26/2008 8:35 AM
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And if OP had actually done a little research, or hell, even used common sense, he would have mentioned this effect obviously goes both ways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511090
You projectionists always think it goes both ways. It is human nature to be affected by negative propaganda even when told it is false.
However, the article above is a mental affliction specific to conservatives.
And as a plus, your article had a nice graphic showing how FOX NEWS completely distorted the truth about Saddam and 9/11.
[link to media.arstechnica.com]
[link to kindagamey.com] |
| Just a messenger
User ID: 511061
9/26/2008 8:36 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Conservatives think I am a criminal for USING MY FREE CHOICE AND SMOKING POT
Conservatives printed "In God We Trust" on MY MONEY
Conservatives DONT WANT TO GIVE ME A CHOICE IN DYING BY MY OWN HAND WITH EUTHANASIA AND WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO WITH MY OWN BODY
Conservatives SAY I CANT HEAR "SHIT" ON THE RADIO
CONSERVATIVES CAN GOT TO HELL, UNAMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM CUNTS
i see like most idiots, you believe the crap you are fed by the MSM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 342855
Umm HELLO?
PEOPLE WHO JUST SMOKE POT ARE SENT TO JAIL!
PEOPLE WITH TERMINAL ILLNESSES ARE FORCED TO HAVE A PROLONGED PAINFUL DEATH DUE TO "PRO-LIFERS"
RADIO HOSTS/STATIONS ARE FINED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR JUST SAYING "SHIT"
WE HAVE "IN GOD WE TRUST" ON OUR MONEY! I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THE "GOD" THEY ARE REFERING TO IS A SICK BASTARD!
CONSERVATIVES WANT TO TRY AND CONTROL PEOPLES PRIVATE LIVES, THEY HATE FREEDOM
CONSERVATIVES CLAIM TO BE "PRO-LIFE" UNTIL YOU ARE BORN THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN AND ITS DOG EAT DOG.
CONSERVATIVES CLAIM TO BE "PRO LIFE" YET LET MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DIE EARLY THANKS TO CRAP HEALTH CARE COVERAGE
CONSERVATIVES HATE LIFE AND HATE FREEDOM
I AM A SOCIAL LIBERAL AND PROUD
CONSERVATIVE "FORCE MY RELIGION DOWN YOUR THROAT" PEOPLE ARE SICK, ANTI-FREEDOM PRO-TALIBAN SICK BASTARDS WHO WANT TO TURN AMERICA INTO A RELIGIOUS STATE.
FUCK CONSERVATIVES
FUCK THERE TRYING TO RAM RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS
FUCK THERE WARS
FUCK THEM
I AM A ARMED LIBERAL AND PROUD
FUCK YOU! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483402
9/26/2008 8:42 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Lets make something VERY CLEAR.
You are using the word, "Conservatives".
This is too broad a brush. Would you tar William F. Buckley Jr. or Barry Goldwater with this brush?
You are really talking about the Fascist Theocratics/Christianist Cultist Fundamentalists. For example, PACNWGuy. Bill O'Reilly. Sean Hannity.
There are excellent conservatives out there that deserve much of our respect, who are just as horrified as the rest of us about these people. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342855
9/26/2008 8:44 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Conservatives think I am a criminal for USING MY FREE CHOICE AND SMOKING POT
Conservatives printed "In God We Trust" on MY MONEY
Conservatives DONT WANT TO GIVE ME A CHOICE IN DYING BY MY OWN HAND WITH EUTHANASIA AND WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO WITH MY OWN BODY
Conservatives SAY I CANT HEAR "SHIT" ON THE RADIO
CONSERVATIVES CAN GOT TO HELL, UNAMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM CUNTS
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i see like most idiots, you believe the crap you are fed by the MSM
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Umm HELLO?
PEOPLE WHO JUST SMOKE POT ARE SENT TO JAIL!
PEOPLE WITH TERMINAL ILLNESSES ARE FORCED TO HAVE A PROLONGED PAINFUL DEATH DUE TO "PRO-LIFERS"
RADIO HOSTS/STATIONS ARE FINED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR JUST SAYING "SHIT"
WE HAVE "IN GOD WE TRUST" ON OUR MONEY! I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THE "GOD" THEY ARE REFERING TO IS A SICK BASTARD!
CONSERVATIVES WANT TO TRY AND CONTROL PEOPLES PRIVATE LIVES, THEY HATE FREEDOM
CONSERVATIVES CLAIM TO BE "PRO-LIFE" UNTIL YOU ARE BORN THEN YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN AND ITS DOG EAT DOG.
CONSERVATIVES CLAIM TO BE "PRO LIFE" YET LET MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DIE EARLY THANKS TO CRAP HEALTH CARE COVERAGE
CONSERVATIVES HATE LIFE AND HATE FREEDOM
I AM A SOCIAL LIBERAL AND PROUD
CONSERVATIVE "FORCE MY RELIGION DOWN YOUR THROAT" PEOPLE ARE SICK, ANTI-FREEDOM PRO-TALIBAN SICK BASTARDS WHO WANT TO TURN AMERICA INTO A RELIGIOUS STATE.
FUCK CONSERVATIVES
FUCK THERE TRYING TO RAM RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS
FUCK THERE WARS
FUCK THEM
I AM A ARMED LIBERAL AND PROUD
FUCK YOU! Quoting: Just a messenger
you are a mental midget
thanks for proving my point
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| Just a messenger
User ID: 511061
9/26/2008 8:49 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Lets make something VERY CLEAR.
You are using the word, "Conservatives".
This is too broad a brush. Would you tar William F. Buckley Jr. or Barry Goldwater with this brush?
You are really talking about the Fascist Theocratics/Christianist Cultist Fundamentalists. For example, PACNWGuy. Bill O'Reilly. Sean Hannity.
There are excellent conservatives out there that deserve much of our respect, who are just as horrified as the rest of us about these people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 483402
Yes there are decent small government, pro-freedom conservatives which I have no issues with in the Republican and Democratic party. However, these people are rare. That is the problem. The "Conservative movement" has been taken over by Theocrats and until decent conservatives throw them out then I will continue to spit bile.
I happen to believe in social liberalism and economic conservativism, however, with government control of things like
national defence
a national health care system (if the U.K. Canada and Australia can do it we can do it)
roads, transport
etc
And let private enterprise take over everything else, and private enterprise be allowed to fail without government bail outs. |
| Just a messenger
User ID: 511061
9/26/2008 8:51 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
you are a mental midget
thanks for proving my point
And typical, you don't answer my points you just argue. The fact it, and you can see it, that conservatives are anti-freedom.
Period |
| markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 148742
9/26/2008 8:53 AM
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What? You think you're the only person that gets sick when he doesn't get his jellybeans? |
| SHR 
Forum Administrator
9/26/2008 8:56 AM
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Not sure if I've had an arguement with a Liberal, mostly they pontificate about how right they are, no matter what the subject is, or no matter how wrong they might be, even after being shown factual proof of that. Said factual proofs will either be deemed fabricated, dismissed out of hand, inconsiquential or irrelevant to their postion, even though it bears directly to it. Ron said it best, "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."
You can see exactly that here pretty frequently. One recent instance was that Palin photo with the Photoshopped head on the bikini chick holding the BB gun asking if it was a real photo. One poster replied, "Well it doesn't matter if it really isn't her, it represents her as she is, so it is real." ........Oh really?...lol.
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| KindaGamey
Parsley Sage
User ID: 474302
9/26/2008 8:58 AM
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You can see exactly that here pretty frequently. One recent instance was that Palin photo with the Photoshopped head on the bikini chick holding the BB gun asking if it was a real photo. One poster replied, "Well it doesn't matter if it really isn't her, it represents her as she is, so it is real." ........Oh really?...lol. Quoting: SHR
Well, both our sides have idiots.
Sorry! :)
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| Just a messenger
User ID: 511061
9/26/2008 9:00 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Actually I really don't care anymore.
I have declared my home my kingdom and will live freely and will simply ignore idiots who want to, or try to run my life.
Liberty begins with individuals taking control of their own lives.
If someone tries to fuck with me then they first get ignored.
If they are persistant the get warned.
If they continue they get...
Peace. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342855
9/26/2008 9:04 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
you are a mental midget
thanks for proving my point
And typical, you don't answer my points you just argue. The fact it, and you can see it, that conservatives are anti-freedom.
Period
the only 'point' you have is the one on your pinlike head
the rest was a juvenile parroting rant of nonsensical msm gibberish at best
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 190126
9/26/2008 9:05 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Funny, I always thought the same thing about liberals |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334860
9/26/2008 9:08 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Same here.
Liberals just dont get conservatives at all - each scream of senseless invective just proves to me that liberals feel that they are the only ones "enlightened" enough to govern. Every time a conservative disagrees with a liberal it's because of conservative "ignorance". When they can't win an argument it begets a stream of insults - etc, etc, etc.. Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
Hilarious, --- you've just proven the OP's article to be correct! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334860
9/26/2008 9:13 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Not sure if I've had an arguement with a Liberal, mostly they pontificate about how right they are, no matter what the subject is, or no matter how wrong they might be, even after being shown factual proof of that. Said factual proofs will either be deemed fabricated, dismissed out of hand, inconsiquential or irrelevant to their postion, even though it bears directly to it. Ron said it best, "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."
You can see exactly that here pretty frequently. One recent instance was that Palin photo with the Photoshopped head on the bikini chick holding the BB gun asking if it was a real photo. One poster replied, "Well it doesn't matter if it really isn't her, it represents her as she is, so it is real." ........Oh really?...lol. Quoting: SHR
(Another great example of the "conservatives" that the article speaks about.) |
| markusmaximus
Rawr.
User ID: 148742
9/26/2008 9:30 AM
| | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 507696
9/28/2008 7:36 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Liberals live in a different alternative "reality".
[ link to www.thedissidentfrogman.com]
What they don't realize is conservatives don't need the stinking liberal "truths"
:finger:
Liberals use science, logic and reason.
Conservatives prefer faith and tradition.
Conservatives may not need "liberal truths" as evidenced by science and reason. But it is science and not faith that more accurately describes the "real world".
. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512419
9/28/2008 7:51 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
"Try it! It's fun! And above all YOU win the argument!"
>>Try that tactic with me. Please. Quoting: Sinanju 505072
okay.
Jesus would not be staging international incidents, murdering thousands of innocents, in order to invade foreign nations just to take their oil, creating five million refugees and over a million deaths.
goose stepper. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512419
9/28/2008 7:53 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Liberals live in a different alternative "reality".
[ link to www.thedissidentfrogman.com]
What they don't realize is conservatives don't need the stinking liberal "truths"
:finger:
Okay smartie. within five years, unless we CHANGE, the north pole we be gone.
all of it.
not an ice cube left.
ignorant fucher. |
| Anonymouse
User ID: 493119
9/28/2008 7:56 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It
[ link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
A new study out of Yale University confirms what argumentative liberals have long-known: Offering reality-based rebuttals to conservative lies only makes conservatives cling to those lies even harder. In essence, schooling conservatives makes them more stupid. From the Washington Post article on the study, which came out yesterday:
Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation -- the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.
A similar "backfire effect" also influenced conservatives told about Bush administration assertions that tax cuts increase federal revenue. One group was offered a refutation by prominent economists that included current and former Bush administration officials. About 35 percent of conservatives told about the Bush claim believed it; 67 percent of those provided with both assertion and refutation believed that tax cuts increase revenue.
In a paper approaching publication, Nyhan, a PhD student at Duke University, and Reifler, at Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.
If you've ever gotten in an argument with your conservative friends (assuming you haven't offered each other a mutual Carville-Matalin-style political ceasefire to preserve the friendship), you've probably seen this "backfire effect" in action. The more you try to tell people that Sarah Palin is lying when she says she was against the Bridge to Nowhere, the more they believe she was telling the truth. The more you try to explain how similar McCain's policies are to Bush's, the more they maintain he's "the original maverick."
The typical mantra of the left is that we don't need to sink to the Republicans' level because we have the truth on our side. But if the other side is utterly immune to the truth -- and indeed, the truth only makes them dig deeper into their fantasy world in which the economy is fundamentally strong and the War in Iraq is a staggering success -- what's a leftie to do?
I ain't got the answers, ace, except to say this: When arguing with conservatives in front of on-the-fence independents, remember that you're not trying to convince the conservative to actually buy into silly notions like facts and reason. You're highlighting the differences between left and right for the outside observer. If the other guy insists on political views that belong only in Disney World's Fantasyland, other folks will realize what's happening.
But if there is no third party, do yourself a favor and save your breath. As the study demonstrates, you're only making matters worse. Consider that aforementioned ceasefire. It is football season, after all. There's plenty of other things to argue about. Go Mizzou! Quoting: markusmaximus
That's not "science", it's just "stupidity". Sorry to tell you that, but I am sick of morons parading around as scientists with moronic studies that even an ape would consider too stupid to be worth its time. These two so-called scientists should have their PhDs revoked.
Oh, wait, they are "political scientists"... lol. I thought they were sociologists. I think the educated world already knows as a general principle that "political science" = bullshit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512419
9/28/2008 7:57 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Lets make something VERY CLEAR.
You are using the word, "Conservatives".
This is too broad a brush. Would you tar William F. Buckley Jr. or Barry Goldwater with this brush?
You are really talking about the Fascist Theocratics/Christianist Cultist Fundamentalists. For example, PACNWGuy. Bill O'Reilly. Sean Hannity.
There are excellent conservatives out there that deserve much of our respect, who are just as horrified as the rest of us about these people.
Yes there are decent small government, pro-freedom conservatives which I have no issues with in the Republican and Democratic party. However, these people are rare. That is the problem. The "Conservative movement" has been taken over by Theocrats and until decent conservatives throw them out then I will continue to spit bile.
I happen to believe in social liberalism and economic conservativism, however, with government control of things like
national defence
a national health care system (if the U.K. Canada and Australia can do it we can do it)
roads, transport
etc
And let private enterprise take over everything else, and private enterprise be allowed to fail without government bail outs. Quoting: Just a messenger
you all have two choices.
same or different.
or waste your vote.
just wanted to add that i have travelled the world, and america has one of the WORST healthcare systems in the world. been through it repeatedly. |
| semantics
User ID: 437387
9/28/2008 8:00 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
People who lie harder are called psychopaths, not conservatives. |
| Anonymouse
User ID: 493119
9/28/2008 8:01 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
just wanted to add that i have travelled the world, and america has one of the WORST healthcare systems in the world. been through it repeatedly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 512419
Oh, really? Then why do rich people from all over the world come to America to receive health care? D'oh! Stop being so simplistic. In some ways the US healthcare system is the worst in the world, in many ways it is the best. For those who have the money to pay for it, the US healthcare system is easily the best in the world. Why do you think most pharmaceuticals and new medical technologies come out of the US? It must be because our healthcare is "the worst in the world"....
Yeah, start thinking harder please. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512419
9/28/2008 8:04 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
conservatives are motivated by faith, not reason.
If you aren't a conservative..then how would you know what motives me....I am conservative...as in...conservative in my government....belief in the constitution and my inalienable rights....you know the rights we have as human beings...not rights given to us by the damn government or taken away I guess you could say....notice I said conservative...not republican or democrat..."motivated by faith" well I guess thats better than motivated by "hope" as some religious folks might say...you know the folks that stand in front of so called greek temples to during the dnc... Quoting: rsharpe03
yet you will vote for mccain, wont you.
the neocons, 95 percent same mccain bush, have ruined everything, and you propose a senile old man and a freak.
tell me, who are you voting for? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510303
9/28/2008 8:14 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Offering reality-based rebuttals to conservative lies only makes conservatives cling to those lies even harder. Quoting: markusmaximus
Tell us something we don't know. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512419
9/28/2008 8:18 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
just wanted to add that i have travelled the world, and america has one of the WORST healthcare systems in the world. been through it repeatedly.
Oh, really? Then why do rich people from all over the world come to America to receive health care? D'oh! Stop being so simplistic. In some ways the US healthcare system is the worst in the world, in many ways it is the best. For those who have the money to pay for it, the US healthcare system is easily the best in the world. Why do you think most pharmaceuticals and new medical technologies come out of the US? It must be because our healthcare is "the worst in the world"....
Yeah, start thinking harder please. Quoting: Anonymouse 493119
and where were they when i almost bled to death twice?
fuck you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 483402
9/28/2008 8:42 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
You can see exactly that here pretty frequently. One recent instance was that Palin photo with the Photoshopped head on the bikini chick holding the BB gun asking if it was a real photo. One poster replied, "Well it doesn't matter if it really isn't her, it represents her as she is, so it is real." ........Oh really?...lol. Quoting: SHR
Did you closely read the anti-Obama threads that had similar ludicrous claims? For example, that despite his entire Christian life that somehow he is secretly a Muslim terrorist of some sort?
Thats why I reject BOTH the lunatic RIGHT and lunatic LEFT.
When one of these loonies tries to pin something on the other that they are just as guilty of, its pathetic. |
| Bob™
User ID: 486388
9/28/2008 8:44 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Read the article then look at the republican responses here on this thread.
I mean, could we get a better real-world example? Quoting: KindaGamey
Exactly! It's hilarious! : ) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510303
9/28/2008 9:03 AM | | Re: There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It | Quote |
Read the article then look at the republican responses here on this thread.
I mean, could we get a better real-world example? Quoting: KindaGamey
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