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BIDEN: PAYING HIGHER TAXES IS THE PATRIOTIC THING TO DO. CONFIRMS ITS "WEALTH DISTRIBUTION".

 
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Obama and Biden are an elitist communist infanticide promoting team.

It is the same old story we have seen from robbing hood, the French Revolution, the Cultural Revolution in China and the Russian Revolution of 1917. What you do is you rile up the have nots to hate the haves. Whether it is those who have an education like in the Chinese Cultural Revolution or whether it is those who have wealth as in the Communist Revolution.

You get the lazy ass "have nots" to hate the "haves" and then you take away from the "haves" and give to the "have nots". There are always more "have nots" so this is an easy thing for communists like Obama to do.

Socialism/Communism plain and simple.
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Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act By DOUGLASS

WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. In a new TV ad that repeats widely debunked claims about the Democratic tax plan, the Republican campaign calls Obama's tax increases "painful."


Under the economic plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Although Republican John McCain claims that Obama would raise taxes, the independent Tax Policy Center and other groups conclude that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama's proposals.

"We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," Biden said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that "a big government casts a big shadow on us all," the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal.

"Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government, billions in spending increases, wasteful pork," the ad says. "And we would pay — painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil. Can your family afford that?"

The McCain campaign said the ad is set to run nationally.

:lawye:
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No surprise......enforced communist ideology e.g. LEO the LEOPARD OBAMA in the Revelations....with big feet like a Bear....

God does not force anypne he asks that people come willingly to find the charity and love of giving in their hearts.

The wealthy that do not give willingly suffer a life of poverty in the next life. They reap what they sow. A life of wealth is a test chosen by soul.

So now you know why there is so much poverty on planet earth it is due to the amount of selfishness in past lives.

It is up to each and every person to break the cycle.

Lotus
i love satan
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Obama and Biden are an elitist communist infanticide promoting team.

It is the same old story we have seen from robbing hood, the French Revolution, the Cultural Revolution in China and the Russian Revolution of 1917. What you do is you rile up the have nots to hate the haves. Whether it is those who have an education like in the Chinese Cultural Revolution or whether it is those who have wealth as in the Communist Revolution.

You get the lazy ass "have nots" to hate the "haves" and then you take away from the "haves" and give to the "have nots". There are always more "have nots" so this is an easy thing for communists like Obama to do.

Socialism/Communism plain and simple.
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Faced with unequivocal facts, the shrill voices of the moneyed classes use abuse, invective and hysteria, rather than cool logic, to howl down the voices of dissent.
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Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act By DOUGLASS

WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. In a new TV ad that repeats widely debunked claims about the Democratic tax plan, the Republican campaign calls Obama's tax increases "painful."


Under the economic plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Although Republican John McCain claims that Obama would raise taxes, the independent Tax Policy Center and other groups conclude that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama's proposals.

"We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," Biden said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that "a big government casts a big shadow on us all," the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal.

"Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government, billions in spending increases, wasteful pork," the ad says. "And we would pay — painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil. Can your family afford that?"

The McCain campaign said the ad is set to run nationally.

:lawye:
 Quoting: PACNWguy

There needs to be a maximum wage, and income, and CEOs, and executives should not be allowed to earn more than 20x their lowest paid worker. They should all get the same health benefits and vacation/sick time.

No one needs a mega-mansion and a yacht, give the extra to charity. The highest earners contribute the least to society: actors, ceos, athletes, rock stars,lawyers, etc. The people that contribute the most, firefighters, people that care for children, sick, elderly, rescue workers, etc earn the least. This should be corrected.
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I'm a republican and I agree with higher taxes.

We need to clear our checkbook and get back to work.

Both McCain and Obama are pussyfoots and not real men who can tackle the problems.

Why is it the ignorant are elected? Seriously, of all the intelligent people in the world (each of you knows a few) how in the hell do we get those in power that we have? It's almost like you have to have mental issues to be in power.
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I'm a republican and I agree with higher taxes.

We need to clear our checkbook and get back to work.

Both McCain and Obama are pussyfoots and not real men who can tackle the problems.

Why is it the ignorant are elected? Seriously, of all the intelligent people in the world (each of you knows a few) how in the hell do we get those in power that we have? It's almost like you have to have mental issues to be in power.
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You are right. Unfortunately, good people are not attracted to money and power.
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I'm a republican and I agree with higher taxes.

We need to clear our checkbook and get back to work.

Both McCain and Obama are pussyfoots and not real men who can tackle the problems.

Why is it the ignorant are elected? Seriously, of all the intelligent people in the world (each of you knows a few) how in the hell do we get those in power that we have? It's almost like you have to have mental issues to be in power.
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There is someone reasonably intelligent: Ralph Nader. But what are his chances?
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How about it if the Democrats first stop all the wars we are fighting overseas, before they raise taxes. Then they might find out they don't need more taxes, or at least we wouldn't have to see our money going to fund war merchants and psychopaths.
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How about we all pay the same percentage of our income for our tax?

Everyone (including corporations) pays 10% - no deductions period.

You make $250,000 you pay $25,000.

You make $20,000 you pay $2,000.

Fair is fair!
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How about we all pay the same percentage of our income for our tax?

Everyone (including corporations) pays 10% - no deductions period.

You make $250,000 you pay $25,000.

You make $20,000 you pay $2,000.

Fair is fair!
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What you're suggesting is a "flat tax".
A flat tax is NOT fair because to someone who makes $20,000, 10% taken away in tax can mean skipping meals or turning off the air conditioner in summer. That's why tax is progressive (rises in brackets).
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How about we all pay the same percentage of our income for our tax?

Everyone (including corporations) pays 10% - no deductions period.

You make $250,000 you pay $25,000.

You make $20,000 you pay $2,000.

Fair is fair!



What you're suggesting is a "flat tax".
A flat tax is NOT fair because to someone who makes $20,000, 10% taken away in tax can mean skipping meals or turning off the air conditioner in summer. That's why tax is progressive (rises in brackets).
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You are right. Then we can still do it but just make the tax start when your income is above 2X poverty level.

So if your single and you make less than $41,600 then you pay no taxes. Above that and you pay a FLAT 10%.

Everyone including corporations - No deductions!

A family of four (mom, dad, 2 kids) would have to make $82,800 before they are taxed.

That is even more fair!
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Someone tell me one thing Government produces?

Nothing, only people produce things.

They can only take from one anf give to another.
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How about we all pay the same percentage of our income for our tax?

Everyone (including corporations) pays 10% - no deductions period.

You make $250,000 you pay $25,000.

You make $20,000 you pay $2,000.

Fair is fair!



What you're suggesting is a "flat tax".
A flat tax is NOT fair because to someone who makes $20,000, 10% taken away in tax can mean skipping meals or turning off the air conditioner in summer. That's why tax is progressive (rises in brackets).


You are right. Then we can still do it but just make the tax start when your income is above 2X poverty level.

So if your single and you make less than $41,600 then you pay no taxes. Above that and you pay a FLAT 10%.

Everyone including corporations - No deductions!

A family of four (mom, dad, 2 kids) would have to make $82,800 before they are taxed.

That is even more fair!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73466

I would agree if the maximum income allowed was $100,000. Anything over that goes to charity.
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"How the hell does anybody answer a question when you don't even define what you mean by poor?"

>>You had no problem defining wealthy...


But you are not completely stupid.. you know the poor pay NO FUCKING TAXES.
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But you are not completely stupid.. you know the poor pay NO FUCKING TAXES.
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You are a moron. The poor do pay taxes. Unless they are homeless, they pay property tax. You pay Social Security Tax on all income up to the cutoff. Something as simple as sales tax consumes a greater portion of their income than the wealthy. If they own a car, the gasoline taxes and license fees are a major impact. And anybody making over $250,000 is in the upper 10% of Americans. It's not some made-up number. Of course, facts probably fly right over your head. You have to depend on the Rushes and O'Reillys of the world to tell you what you're supposed to think.
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Charles Rangel’s latest troubles came when The New York Post published allegations that that he had failed to pay at least $10,000 in back taxes or report nearly $75,000 in income from a luxury beachfront property he owns in the Dominican Republic.

A real patriot.
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Someone tell me one thing Government produces?

Nothing, only people produce things.

They can only take from one anf give to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376019


it produces parasitcal trash at an astronomical rate. 150 million jobs and 30 % of them are brownshirts for state/local/fed goverments. Slash that down to 5% which will happen sooner rather than later as all the moneys get spent on bailouts. watch all the trash bleat we could makre more in the private sector lol. Fuck em pay them all minimum wage except the military and tell em like it or get the fuck out.
Considering by late 2009 or early 2010 minimum wage with benefits will be a damn good job . It will be funny to watch them huff and puff and then not quit.
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"You are a moron. The poor do pay taxes. BLAHBLAHBLAH...."

>>We are talking income taxes here and you KNOW it. So, to play your game..

How much do the POOR(use your own definition) pay in income taxes in proportion to their wealth?
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Are you afraid to answer this one?

How the hell does anybody answer a question when you don't even define what you mean by poor? As usual, nosebleed right-wing extremists don't dwell in facts, they just toss around vague platitudes and fake patriotism.
 Quoting: Gazmik

Gazmik, you sound like someone who wants to punish people who make a lot of money by taking more and more of it away.

Sinanju, you're wasting your time with this Bolshevik.
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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"Sinanju, you're wasting your time with this Bolshevik."

>>That is quickly becoming apparent.
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Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act By DOUGLASS

WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. In a new TV ad that repeats widely debunked claims about the Democratic tax plan, the Republican campaign calls Obama's tax increases "painful."


Under the economic plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Although Republican John McCain claims that Obama would raise taxes, the independent Tax Policy Center and other groups conclude that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama's proposals.

"We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," Biden said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that "a big government casts a big shadow on us all," the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal.

"Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government, billions in spending increases, wasteful pork," the ad says. "And we would pay — painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil. Can your family afford that?"

The McCain campaign said the ad is set to run nationally.

:lawye:


No surprise......enforced communist ideology e.g. LEO the LEOPARD OBAMA in the Revelations....with big feet like a Bear....

God does not force anypne he asks that people come willingly to find the charity and love of giving in their hearts.

The wealthy that do not give willingly suffer a life of poverty in the next life. They reap what they sow. A life of wealth is a test chosen by soul.

So now you know why there is so much poverty on planet earth it is due to the amount of selfishness in past lives.

It is up to each and every person to break the cycle.

Lotus
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You scare me. I don't know your angle, but you have some MAJOR issues. I don't disagree about your karma approach, but your thoughts on Obama (or anyone for that matter) are just insane.

Seriously, where do you get off claiming Obama is a beast from revelations??
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When I see cut-n-run hate America democrats talking about patriotism it makes me sick to my stomach, especially when they tell me its my duty to let them rob me. Puke
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Who gives you your talking points? Cut n run?!?
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LIBERAL

BIG GOVERNMENT

TAX AND SPEND

HE WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS

HE WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES

All catch phrases

The same old tired crap republicans throw out there because they always loose when a campaign is about the real issues.

George Bush expanded the size of the federal government more than in any other 8-year period in the history of America.

The guy who ran on the same things that McCain says he believes in. Bush and McCain are the same.

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