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eScrew LOVES all of you!!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/22/2008 08:53 AM
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Every project or group activity need leadership, from running a kindergarten to building a big airplane and, as someone, in the above already have stated when playing in a band.

In the context of freedom within society, the only thing you can do is to be creative, independent and become your own leader within set bounderies (obviously you can't just crown yourself to be the king of Texas - unless you want to end in a mental institution).
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09/22/2008 09:01 AM
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You are shifting responsibility (blame).

Leadership is not the problem. We are, each and every single one of us. (yes that includes the "leaders")

Leadership is born from the desire to be lead and the desire to be lead or ruled over is born from irresponsibility.

This is why there is so little freedom these days. We do not take responsibility for our actions and so others do in our place.
eScrew (OP)

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09/22/2008 09:03 AM
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The idea of leadership is a virus which is hurting our mother earth.
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09/22/2008 09:11 AM
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The difference between leadership and dominance is like day and night.

The person who risks his life or sacrifices themself in some way for another is a leader.

The person who exploits another for personal gain may be dominant and powerful, but is as far from a leader as you can get.
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09/22/2008 09:23 AM
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Leaders enslaves us. They are not better than us. They are not wiser than us. Why do we have to follow them? We must take responsibility in our own hands! We must learn from life itself and become free! Any ladership is a fraud. It is not natural. Leadership creates problems which can not be solved because in order to solve these problems we must destroy leadership itself. Leadership is holding us in prison. I WILL DESTROY LEADERSHIP!!! hf
 Quoting: eScrew
you know what..I agree , when you have leaders , you have followers , good point OP
Nibiru is coming are you ready? :eq:
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09/22/2008 09:46 AM
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You really mean Misleadership.

Those you are talking about are not true Leaders.

Just liers, thieves and those of Greed.
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09/22/2008 09:51 AM
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In order for non leadership to work , about 95 % of you need to die off. So vermin sound up the battle fifes and war drums and start exterminating eachother. You will be composted , not mourned or missed by your betters
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09/22/2008 10:01 AM
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Leaders enslaves us. They are not better than us. They are not wiser than us. Why do we have to follow them? We must take responsibility in our own hands! We must learn from life itself and become free! Any ladership is a fraud. It is not natural. Leadership creates problems which can not be solved because in order to solve these problems we must destroy leadership itself. Leadership is holding us in prison. I WILL DESTROY LEADERSHIP!!! hf
 Quoting: eScrew

What a confused mind you are!

You are confusing leadership with control. Natural leaders don't control anyone.
eScrew (OP)

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09/23/2008 05:49 AM
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Ever play in a BIG BAND without a band leader..it is total chaos. All are pros and great at what they do, but someone needs to be able to know what ALL the players do, be able to transpose and deal with it all.

Sometimes leadership is a good thing.
 Quoting: Winningjob


I want to play silence so I don't need a band leader. Silence and meditation is what I want to play. No need for leaders. Leadership is a dangerous virus!
anonymous african
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09/23/2008 08:26 AM
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chain or top-down structure hierachy became obsolete more than two decades ago, it got replaced by the matrix structure where authority is both vertical and horizontal.

i always wonder when these new organisational structure will start being deployed/utilized. i think this can help alot in this regard.

also professional governments can help greatly in this regard.

also people need to start thinking for themselves-read being masters of their destiny.
anonymous african
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09/23/2008 08:35 AM
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in a matrix organisational structure, best ideas get priority in implementation regardless of where they came from in that organisation hierachy. e.g. best ideas could come from the operational or middle management level.

for intance GLP poster's suggestion that no bail-out cheques for the bank would get implemented since its a great bright idea but since USA government structure is a top-down approach/chain structure it will be ignored because its not supported by the top structure, e.g bush and the senate.
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09/23/2008 08:41 AM
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chain or top-down structure hierachy became obsolete more than two decades ago, it got replaced by the matrix structure where authority is both vertical and horizontal.

i always wonder when these new organisational structure will start being deployed/utilized. i think this can help alot in this regard.

also professional governments can help greatly in this regard.

also people need to start thinking for themselves-read being masters of their destiny.
 Quoting: anonymous african 157677


Matrix style management is a great thing. However, within the matrix there are still formal and informal leaders.

Leadership is necessary with the reasons as posted by several posters, another important reason is (specialized) knowledge. With the ever growing information it is impossible to posess all the knowledge and become our own leaders in every field. Nobody can have knowledge at the same time in accounting, marketing, engineering, entrepreneurship, IT, biology, history, medicines, farming etc. So it is necessary that certain people with the knowledge lead you to alternatives, opinion and solution. An entrepreneur may need an accountant to LEAD him to certain tax solution while a dentist can provide the solution for a teeth problem i.e. LEAD the patient to a solution.

A leaderless life is an utopia.
anonymous african
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09/23/2008 08:41 AM
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excuse my usual few typo's above.

thinking about it a matrix structure is more democratic than a chain or any other tradtional organisational structure.

another panacea for humans is the e-government.
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09/23/2008 08:52 AM
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"AC", i think when you speak of specialized knowledge we are speaking the same thing when i talk of a professional government.

a professional government is run by experts and not clue-less politicians like its the case in the world today. an example of a professional government is that its ministries would be run by professional in that field. e.g. the ministry of finance would be run by a qualified accountant or an economist etc.

we just have to make sure that there counter-check measures in place like transparency, accountabilty etc.
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09/23/2008 09:07 AM
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"AC", i think when you speak of specialized knowledge we are speaking the same thing when i talk of a professional government.

a professional government is run by experts and not clue-less politicians like its the case in the world today. an example of a professional government is that its ministries would be run by professional in that field. e.g. the ministry of finance would be run by a qualified accountant or an economist etc.

we just have to make sure that there counter-check measures in place like transparency, accountabilty etc.
 Quoting: anonymous african 157677

I definately agree with you there.
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09/23/2008 10:55 AM
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THE LORD WARNED US THROUGH HIS PROPHET JEREMIAH


As for us, our eyes as yet failed for our vain help: in our watching we have watched for a nation that could not save us.

They hunt our steps, that we cannot go in our streets: our end is near, our days are fulfilled; for our end is come.

Our persecutors are swifter than the eagles of the heaven: they pursued us upon the mountains, they laid wait for us in the wilderness.

The breath of our nostrils, the anointed of the LORD, was taken in their pits, of whom we said, Under his shadow we shall live among the heathen. Lamentations 4:17-20
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09/23/2008 11:02 AM
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True leaders are those that serve others, not those that boss others.


I don't want them to serve me. hf
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i bet you taste like chicken...
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09/23/2008 11:06 AM
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Those of you who refuse to take self responsability deserve to be the slaves you are-now bend over-there's a stiffy waiting for you and your gonna get it good-just the way you like it.
eScrew (OP)

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09/24/2008 07:43 AM
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I am Anti-Leader! Leadership always fails, it's just a matter of time.
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09/24/2008 08:08 AM
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Finally, after wandering around GLP for years, I see the
OP gets to the bottom line.

Followers are fuckt.

Learn and apply.

Split the Matrix and it dies. I've been working at it
for years.

What a glorious death it will be.

It's coming soon to a street near you.
to herd or not to herd
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eScrew (OP)

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09/25/2008 08:00 AM
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Anti-leader will bring freedom to all! hf
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09/25/2008 01:26 PM
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You have that exactly right. Our ancestors didn't put up with permanent leaders, only situational ones.

"Hierarchy and Leadership? Not in MY Group You Don't!"

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09/25/2008 08:11 PM
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The people "posing" as leaders in this world are not really "Leaders" they need to be ousted. Get rid of the fake leaders, eScrew, leave the inspiring, creative and natural born leaders alone, as humans need them to evolve and learn.
Never do I lose. All I do is win.

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The Web 2.0 is now a medium of exchange to develop the latent psychic and psi abilities of the individual human & race as a collective on planet earth. There is no longer any question of whether human beings have the ability to project, send, retrieve and receive thoughts, images, instructions telepathically to other beings & entities across the Universe, rather, advanced groups of beings are waiting for the other less evolved humans to play catch up. There will always be the less evolved and the ones who wait patiently and silently for them to develop their talents.

There will be a reckoning. Truth and Justice or walk the path of Anarchy against me. We will cross paths, when we meet, in this world, or the next a moment of reckoning awaits you & me.

We're on similar paths, you know that right? You know that...? Right? ;)
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09/26/2008 09:57 AM
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Ever play in a BIG BAND without a band leader..it is total chaos. All are pros and great at what they do, but someone needs to be able to know what ALL the players do, be able to transpose and deal with it all.

Sometimes leadership is a good thing.
 Quoting: Winningjob


If you want to enhance the outcome of multiple participants as in a band or an Army, or a rowing team, a central manager of the event is necessary, for that outcome ONLY. Everybody goes home after words, no big deal.

The BIG problem that most folk stuck here on planet AlGore can't yet discern is that WE ARE ALL LEADERS. Just as, WE, as individuals, ARE GOVERNMENT.

We have totally forgotten that the agency, "The State" is our servant and instead, has become our master. It is this that needs reversing. We need to quit confusing The State, which is the main troublemaker, with Government, Which in Truth, is us.

We can no more eliminate leaders or government than we can outlaw breathing.

Use more care in selecting your choice of words and You just might spark a revolution.....

First, one should know why one is revolting against and what needs to replace the rot. Then it's time for change and a revolution. Time to dance. If there be a tune worthy of dancing to. Our Own?
eScrew (OP)

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09/28/2008 11:19 AM
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Anti-Leader is the next step of our revolution!
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Thread: Earth is not a planet it's a flat dimension that can be infinetly extended. Moon + Sun + Stars = portals
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12/13/2010 09:54 AM
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I decided to become the most famous Internet Clown. The market for this service is booming. Soon I will be rich and famous. I already created many funny jokes that people can benefit from. I bet that my jokes even saved few lifes because laughing is forcing us to live longer. I changed a life of many people who were not laughing, but started laughing becouse of my jokes. I healed myself when I wrote my jokes. I achieved great success with my jokes becouse thousands of people around the world a laughing at my jokes. I am enjoying my life and contributing usefull jokes to this world. It's good to be me!
Viktor Bychenok
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12/30/2010 10:58 AM
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Paper money is a debt obligation written by a stranger. This stranger has alot of power and it is really strange. The stranger convinced the society that these debt obligations hold great value which is very strange. Our society is very strange. Do I need debt obligations written by a stranger? If I say yes it will be very strange.

Do I need gold? Why would I need gold? What is better gold or wood? I can make a house out of wood but can I make a house out of gold? If I lived near a golden forest I would probably use gold to make a house. Untill I find a golden forest I will stick with wood. Let's return to the original question do I need gold? Can I eat gold?

Helping people is good. But how can I help people if they don't ask me for help? There are many problems in the world. Did I create them? Why should I try solving your problem and alter the natural course of events? The one who created the problem will eventually solve it. Why should I deny you the chance to solve your own problem? Do I have a problem? After writing this article I don't have any problems!
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