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1965 GTO, best car I ever had

 
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Uuuuh Huuuuh... with Dick Landy or Don Garlits building your 700 hp motor friend? >bsflag<

Motor in my Challenger was probably totally stock.
426 hemi was rated at 425hp and the 440 would outrun it unless the hemi had just been tuned up.
440 stayed in tune longer and broke less often.
Got the car via a local Ford dealer buying it from a police auction. Canyon Ford by I-17.
Cops had removed the bags of weed from the trunk before the auction, but the smell remained.
Loper's speed shop did my dyno tuning back then.

Your comment shows you know nothing about the real muscle cars of the late 60's and early 70's.

The prototype 442 (W30) Olds would pass and lap a 427 Corvette on the GM test track east of PHX.
It was a green Cutlass with the 455 shoehorned in.

btw DGN,
Only custom built motor I ever got was a FIAT 1200 Granluche
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My friend had a hemi roadrunner and had to adjust the heavy valves every 300 miles, not so with 440's hydrolics. I had a 74 charger with a 306 solid roller car, not what I told the builder to put in. He wanted it to turn 7,000 rpm but didn't know the small torque ports wouldn't flow past 6,000. He put 750 lb Vasco jet valve springs in it which would wear out the cam's roller bearings in 1,000 miles. They would not compress so I had to take the heads entirely off to change them. Yechhh....
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Uuuuh Huuuuh... with Dick Landy or Don Garlits building your 700 hp motor friend? >bsflag<

Motor in my Challenger was probably totally stock.
426 hemi was rated at 425hp and the 440 would outrun it unless the hemi had just been tuned up.
440 stayed in tune longer and broke less often.
Got the car via a local Ford dealer buying it from a police auction. Canyon Ford by I-17.
Cops had removed the bags of weed from the trunk before the auction, but the smell remained.
Loper's speed shop did my dyno tuning back then.

Your comment shows you know nothing about the real muscle cars of the late 60's and early 70's.

The prototype 442 (W30) Olds would pass and lap a 427 Corvette on the GM test track east of PHX.
It was a green Cutlass with the 455 shoehorned in.

btw DGN,
Only custom built motor I ever got was a FIAT 1200 Granluche
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 616413

My friend had a hemi roadrunner and had to adjust the heavy valves every 300 miles, not so with 440's hydrolics. I had a 74 charger with a 306 solid roller car, not what I told the builder to put in. He wanted it to turn 7,000 rpm but didn't know the small torque ports wouldn't flow past 6,000. He put 750 lb Vasco jet valve springs in it which would wear out the cam's roller bearings in 1,000 miles. They would not compress so I had to take the heads entirely off to change them. Yechhh....
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My friend had a hemi roadrunner and had to adjust the heavy valves every 300 miles, not so with 440's hydrolics. I had a 74 charger with a 306 solid roller car, not what I told the builder to put in. He wanted it to turn 7,000 rpm but didn't know the small torque ports wouldn't flow past 6,000. He put 750 lb Vasco jet valve springs in it which would wear out the cam's roller bearings in 1,000 miles. They would not compress so I had to take the heads entirely off to change them. Yechhh....
 Quoting: DGN

My 440 Challenger RT would rev past 7 grand anytime.
Hard to believe it had hydraulic lifters.

I went by the motto:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." and left it alone.

Those purple hemi-cudas were faster if they had just been tuned and the shorter WB made for better handling on the South Mountain races.
My own 'cuda had that giant wraparound back window in a very ugly car.


BTW
For those interested.
The 396 was actually just over 400cid
GM had dropped out of racing and downplayed their cars real talents.

Grand Sport Corvettes for example.
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Re: 1965 GTO, best car I ever had
So who's up for that Pontiac Montana... driving excitement-!!
Yes it's safe, it's very safe, it's so safe you wouldn't believe it....
... No, it's not safe, it's very dangerous. Be Careful.
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Use to have a shark blue one in the 70's.
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1965 GTO is a cool car. I had a '71 Firebird with a Ram-Air hood and a 455 big block. It was ridiculously powerful. That was when American meant something. They were original, had style, and built like tanks. Now I drive a Honda Accord...how things and priorities have changed!
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1965 GTO is a cool car. I had a '71 Firebird with a Ram-Air hood and a 455 big block. It was ridiculously powerful. That was when American meant something. They were original, had style, and built like tanks. Now I drive a Honda Accord...how things and priorities have changed!
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Yeah, I like my 283 in a 240z as much as my tire burning goat. I put 15 inch x12 wheels on back and 15x10 on front with 295 and 265 raidial TA's. 300 ZX disc's all around, tochico struts, sway bars etc. I call it my dirt driveway jalopy job. Cut out the fenders with a metal cutting blade and skill saw. It corners and breaks better than my Vette.
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Yeah, I like my 283 in a 240z as much as my tire burning goat. I put 15 inch x12 wheels on back and 15x10 on front with 295 and 265 raidial TA's. 300 ZX disc's all around, tochico struts, sway bars etc. I call it my dirt driveway jalopy job. Cut out the fenders with a metal cutting blade and skill saw. It corners and breaks better than my Vette.
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I understand you

I bought used Indy practice tires, and had to have rims welded up wide enough to take them.
Cut out the wheelwells of my challenger RT to clear the 13" wide rears and 11" wide fronts.
Way back in 71-72

Cornering was: "Wear your seat belt or it will throw you across into the opposite door"

Z cars were the poor man's vette.
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My friend had a hemi roadrunner and had to adjust the heavy valves every 300 miles, not so with 440's hydrolics. I had a 74 charger with a 306 solid roller car, not what I told the builder to put in. He wanted it to turn 7,000 rpm but didn't know the small torque ports wouldn't flow past 6,000. He put 750 lb Vasco jet valve springs in it which would wear out the cam's roller bearings in 1,000 miles. They would not compress so I had to take the heads entirely off to change them. Yechhh....

My 440 Challenger RT would rev past 7 grand anytime.
Hard to believe it had hydraulic lifters.

I went by the motto:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." and left it alone.

Those purple hemi-cudas were faster if they had just been tuned and the shorter WB made for better handling on the South Mountain races.
My own 'cuda had that giant wraparound back window in a very ugly car.


BTW
For those interested.
The 396 was actually just over 400cid
GM had dropped out of racing and downplayed their cars real talents.

Grand Sport Corvettes for example.
 Quoting: himself

Yeah... I'm hopeing to see Zora in the resurrection.... wait 'till he sees the 427 Zo6 5a
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So who's up for that Pontiac Montana... driving excitement-!!
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Look! Guy,..... that car is about as Happing as your Avatar.... get a Marlin...
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Hurst, Holly, Edelbrock, Muncie, Posi, ... tire scorcher! Anyone remember, or was that sooo last century?
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I had a '67 GTO with his and her transmission - loved it! Wish I could've afforded to paint it.....
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Hurst, Holly, Edelbrock, Muncie, Posi, ... tire scorcher! Anyone remember, or was that sooo last century?


I had a '67 GTO with his and her transmission - loved it! Wish I could've afforded to paint it.....
 Quoting: TheGirl 657983

Knew a guy, in HS, whose 66-67 ElCamino got wrecked.

He talked to me about the high price of El Camino parts.

I told him Pontiac Olds Buick and Chevy shared the body and any front clip would fit.

He bought a 65-67 GTO front clip for his ElCamino and made his car really unique.
Goat a Mino!


re: posi

When you had really big power, no matter what brand of car;
9" Ford Detroit Locker was the only way to go.
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Hurst, Holly, Edelbrock, Muncie, Posi, ... tire scorcher! Anyone remember, or was that sooo last century?


I had a '67 GTO with his and her transmission - loved it! Wish I could've afforded to paint it.....

Knew a guy, in HS, whose 66-67 ElCamino got wrecked.

He talked to me about the high price of El Camino parts.

I told him Pontiac Olds Buick and Chevy shared the body and any front clip would fit.

He bought a 65-67 GTO front clip for his ElCamino and made his car really unique.
Goat a Mino!


re: posi

When you had really big power, no matter what brand of car;
9" Ford Detroit Locker was the only way to go.
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Yeah but... clickity clickity click around the corners ,,, hm.. better then Bang and tow it I guess. Kind of a defining sound actually, like unspoken bragging rights.
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My friend had a hemi roadrunner and had to adjust the heavy valves every 300 miles, not so with 440's hydrolics. I had a 74 charger with a 306 solid roller car, not what I told the builder to put in. He wanted it to turn 7,000 rpm but didn't know the small torque ports wouldn't flow past 6,000. He put 750 lb Vasco jet valve springs in it which would wear out the cam's roller bearings in 1,000 miles. They would not compress so I had to take the heads entirely off to change them. Yechhh....

My 440 Challenger RT would rev past 7 grand anytime.
Hard to believe it had hydraulic lifters.

I went by the motto:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." and left it alone.

Those purple hemi-cudas were faster if they had just been tuned and the shorter WB made for better handling on the South Mountain races.
My own 'cuda had that giant wraparound back window in a very ugly car.


BTW
For those interested.
The 396 was actually just over 400cid
GM had dropped out of racing and downplayed their cars real talents.

Grand Sport Corvettes for example.
 Quoting: himself

7,000 rpm on Mopar heads? Right when Mr Darwin's elephants fly. Being their cross sectional area is like a SBC explains why 440 CID weezed at 5,800 rpm and fell flat. Ever see a drag 440 redlined past that? tomato
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65 gto was a sweet ride but can never forget my 73 elcamino ss. had a 327 small block with 202 heads and duel exhaust with crossovers. also had edlebrock 650 and a cam and ladder bars in the back with slicks for better traction. pumped out 423 horeses and was fun and fast. handled like an old car though. lol
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yeah GTO's are nice.

even the newer Australlian designed GTO are pretty kewl. 400 ponies. The problem with the modern GTO is the body, it's just to bland...looks like a ricer car..but when you hear it..it howls with V8 power..

my father had a 68 GTO in black, he had till 89. I was 10 years old then. I remember him taking us out in it on occasion, it wasn't in the best shape, but was garage kept..and ran.

he is kicking himself today for getting rid of it..he misses it lol


the good thing is a restored GTO isn't that expensive. I've seen them at auction for around 40 grand for a full resto

about 22-27 grand for a VERY well kept non restore.
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compare that to 50 era Chevys. Or classic Vettes

I was watching the mercum auto auction on tv, and they rolled old vette after old vette out, mosly 52's..56's...stingrays etc

some fetched 250k easily

others under 80

none went for under 60 though.
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Re: 1965 GTO, best car I ever had
the car I would like to get is a 1970 Challenger with the 6 pack.


or a Chrysler Super Bee.
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super bee( with mods most likely)

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shit wrong video, making super bee look bad lol


here is the one.

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Re: 1965 GTO, best car I ever had
yeah GTO's are nice.

even the newer Australlian designed GTO are pretty kewl. 400 ponies. The problem with the modern GTO is the body, it's just to bland...looks like a ricer car..but when you hear it..it howls with V8 power..

my father had a 68 GTO in black, he had till 89. I was 10 years old then. I remember him taking us out in it on occasion, it wasn't in the best shape, but was garage kept..and ran.

he is kicking himself today for getting rid of it..he misses it lol


the good thing is a restored GTO isn't that expensive. I've seen them at auction for around 40 grand for a full resto

about 22-27 grand for a VERY well kept non restore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276

Check this: I bought my 65 goat/4speed muncie, Hurst Edelbrook, Holly, posi, off a dealer in 1970 for $700..... AND... i WAS ONLY 20 ..... OHHH... TURN IT all BACK! 5a
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yeah GTO's are nice.

even the newer Australlian designed GTO are pretty kewl. 400 ponies. The problem with the modern GTO is the body, it's just to bland...looks like a ricer car..but when you hear it..it howls with V8 power..

my father had a 68 GTO in black, he had till 89. I was 10 years old then. I remember him taking us out in it on occasion, it wasn't in the best shape, but was garage kept..and ran.

he is kicking himself today for getting rid of it..he misses it lol


the good thing is a restored GTO isn't that expensive. I've seen them at auction for around 40 grand for a full resto

about 22-27 grand for a VERY well kept non restore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666276

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Re: 1965 GTO, best car I ever had
not the goat. cool. yeah swap in an LS1. not to popular but interesting swap is a 2.3 ecotech turbo motor from SS cobalt. wish they put it in the new base model camero. (yeah i know it needs a V8) but think about it, manufactures can obtain better fuel efficency, less sprung weight, better weight balance, etc. the main reason same horespower and similar torque figures without half the displacement of the old technology pushrod V8.


my best car. 86 toy corolla(hatchi roku). i get better gas mileage than most cars not even half its age. also probably the funnest. takes a liking and keeps on ticking. only downfall is rust. weld the diff, strap a weber on and pray for rain. or go to your nearest dirt road.
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super bee( with mods most likely)


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Let's do it again!
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Check this: I bought my 65 goat/4speed muncie, Hurst Edelbrook, Holly, posi, off a dealer in 1970 for $700..... AND... i WAS ONLY 20 ..... OHHH... TURN IT all BACK! 5a
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Just go get you another one. This one is waiting for you.
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the best of muscle cars is yet too come, wait till all the goat breathed , monkey fuckers in the third world. discover how much gas america pissed away in V-8's leaving them permanently on foot or donekyback . haha shiteaters no happy motoring decades for you.
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LS1/3 might have some good technology, but still nothing comes close to an RB Mopar. 440 was king and still is. Now with B1 Brodix cylinder heads naturally aspirated 500ci Mopar make 1000hp, and reliable. cant do that with a big cube LS1/3.

10 years ago I had a 69 440ci, steel crank, 11:1, with 590 solid mopar cam and some heavily ported factory heads, mopar single plane, 850dp, 2" headers, av gas, in an early A-body mopar. 7000rpm shifts. spin the speedo off the clock in about 9 seconds and it just kept going (only had 3.5's in the rear) 440 mopar doesnt care for wind resistance! never put it down the 1/4 but it had to be good for a mid - 10 the way it was.

the motor cost only under 5k to build and would give a Bugatti Veyron a run in a straight line lmao

ive since bought expensive new cars, but nothing compare to the outright power and torque of old school american muscle.

ahh the petro chemical world. We've all helped pay our masters for their New World Order in one way or another.
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1967 GTO - most memorable car ever! His and hers transmission - never saw another car with the same kind of transmission and I look at a lot of car shows every summer. I blew the motor 4 times racing it. I saw one just yesterday begging to be bought and restored - it took my breath away to see one again - now this post. Maybe the universe just wants me to think about my old car. Sure wish I'd have kept it...... hf
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I have a 1968 Chrysler New Yorker with a 440. It is such a cool car. 19 feet of pure Mopar! People could not believe i could beat their fancy car with 4 door.


Holy crap you had one too? I didn't see your post before I made my own post. That car was just so damn comfortable. Such a huge engine and yet gas was no problem. Dang, man, I wish I could still have one again, and I bet you do too.
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A wonderful and fun car, I used to love just cruising my 68 New Yorker. That 440 had so much power and purred like a kitten. i really miss that car so much.
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LS1/3 might have some good technology, but still nothing comes close to an RB Mopar. 440 was king and still is. Now with B1 Brodix cylinder heads naturally aspirated 500ci Mopar make 1000hp, and reliable. cant do that with a big cube LS1/3.

10 years ago I had a 69 440ci, steel crank, 11:1, with 590 solid mopar cam and some heavily ported factory heads, mopar single plane, 850dp, 2" headers, av gas, in an early A-body mopar. 7000rpm shifts. spin the speedo off the clock in about 9 seconds and it just kept going (only had 3.5's in the rear) 440 mopar doesnt care for wind resistance! never put it down the 1/4 but it had to be good for a mid - 10 the way it was.

the motor cost only under 5k to build and would give a Bugatti Veyron a run in a straight line lmao

ive since bought expensive new cars, but nothing compare to the outright power and torque of old school american muscle.

ahh the petro chemical world. We've all helped pay our masters for their New World Order in one way or another.
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Chrysler 440 -- There is no substitute!!!

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