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Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME

 
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John LOFTON (Washington Times): Our families are under attack from people like you with these lyrics.

Frank ZAPPA: Could I make a comment about National Defense: the biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy. And everything that's happened under the Reagan Administration is steering us right down that pipe.
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Miss ya Zappa....ROCK THE VOTE! ;-)
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AMAZING. Listen to these FUCKERS trying to rip up Zappa.

Can't do it.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
That Lofton guy from the Washington Post is a BAG OF COCKS.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Thanks again Frank.
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Thanks again Frank.
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Ditto! Just proves he was an intellectual giant as well as one of the greatest musicians of all times.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
They're both a threat. Neither are good. There is an alternative called freedom.
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Jews know all.He looks jewish anyways.Very smart guy.
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I love it when a TRUE conservative rips the head off a faux-conservative.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Here's a snippet of the exchange:

John LOFTON (Washington Times): Our families are under attack from people like you with these lyrics.

Frank ZAPPA: Could I make a comment about National Defense: the biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy. And everything that's happened under the Reagan Administration is steering us right down that pipe.


Robert NOVAK: Oh, mr Zappa...

ZAPPA: Yes, MISTER Zappa...

NOVAK: Do you really think...I mean...

ZAPPA: I really think!

NOVAK: All kidding aside. Is this country, with the permissiveness, that we are moving toward a fascist theocracy?

ZAPPA: You bet we are buddy.

NOVAK: Do you things that things like this would ever have happened...

ZAPPA: Give me that famous smile, buddy.

NOVAK: When we were twenty, when we were kids... you're about my age?

ZAPPA: I'm forty-five.

NOVAK: Well, I'm fifty-five. Do you think that when I was a kid that they would permit songs like that to be sold. I mean permissiveness is a game. I mean you're not really serious if you saying we're going toward a fasist theocracy.

ZAPPA: That's right we ARE!

Tom BRADEN: Wait a minute, give me one example of a fascist theocracy.


ZAPPA: When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Atilla the Hun...


LOFTON: Well then you are an anarchist. Every form of civil government is based on some kind of morality Frank.

ZAPPA: Morality in terms of behavior, not in terms of theology!

LOFTON: well of course, but look, I mean, I couldn't believe in terms of your lyrics, I mean, uh....

NOVAK: Wait a minute gentlement, we have to take a break now.
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John LOFTON (Washington Times): Our families are under attack from people like you with these lyrics.

Frank ZAPPA: Could I make a comment about National Defense: the biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy. And everything that's happened under the Reagan Administration is steering us right down that pipe.
 Quoting: markusmaximus

Amazing, Right on frank! he rocked!
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Dreamed I was an eskimo
Frozen wind began to blow
Under my boots and around my toes
The frost that bit the ground below
It was a hundred degrees below zero...

And my mama cried
And my mama cried
Nanook, a-no-no
Nanook, a-no-no
Dont be a naughty eskimo
Save your money, dont go to the show

Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said ho, ho
And the northern lights commenced to glow
And she said, with a tear in her eye
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Frank Zappa was the MAN!! Those douchebags where getting reamed by Frank.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Good catch, Markus...
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Awesome!
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
He was ahead of his time.

It's no wonder they shot him down.

Cancer non the less.

It's too bad he didn't live. But then again who does?
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
This is sorta like saying America's biggest threat is not that 49.9MT Hydrogen bomb, its the 50.0MT Hydrogen bomb.
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[link to www.motionbox.com]
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Here is what Amerika and pre-Nazi Germany have in common.

The destruction of a prominent national structure; rushed emergency legislation; the rise of a secretive national security apparatus; attemps to register both firearms and people, coupled with preemptive wars of aggression propelled by fervent nationalism. - Jim Marrs "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" Also, this book states that the first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism, because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

In addition, Hitler and George H. W. Bush both mention the "New World Order."

When history repeats, do we notice? Will we stop them?
Please call your friends and have them call their friends and everyone call your politicians and let them have it. Take to the streets if we have to to stop this madness that has taken over our government.

Power to the PEOPLE, not the fascist government.
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visionaries are usually done in before they can effect change..
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Actually we are now a plutocratic oligarchy.
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
op in the great depression our gov got folks back to work..Then in time we came out of the depression..All Nations have faced these same times and economised and got through it..read history please...all nations will respond in the same way to save thierself at this time..read history .........England nearly went broke many times plus other nations in europe..read history.programs got things going again for nations..read history.....this has happened so many times throughout history....red ink is not a new thing anywhere on this earth .....
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we was ready to run for president in 1992

but got cancer instead

imagine him in the debates instead of Ross Perot
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Thanks again Frank.



Ditto! Just proves he was an intellectual giant as well as one of the greatest musicians of all times.
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Greatly loved and missed...
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we was ready to run for president in 1992

but got cancer instead

imagine him in the debates instead of Ross Perot
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor



that's in another timeline..;)
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
Zappa was a counter-culture hero for sure, and a giant of a thinker-writer.


BUT, wasn't TIPPER GORE - a Democrat - the main force behind censorship of music AFTER that - throughout the 90's?

Pretty sure she was, wouldn't want to inadvertently let any hypocrisy into a fine thread..
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is that the appearance where he goes, "KISS MY ASS!" ??
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Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME
op in the great depression our gov got folks back to work..Then in time we came out of the depression..All Nations have faced these same times and economised and got through it..read history please...all nations will respond in the same way to save thierself at this time..read history .........England nearly went broke many times plus other nations in europe..read history.programs got things going again for nations..read history.....this has happened so many times throughout history....red ink is not a new thing anywhere on this earth .....
 Quoting: anonymous 509956
tomato You are not correct sir: The United States did not even come close to pulling out of the depression untill WW2........



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op in the great depression our gov got folks back to work..Then in time we came out of the depression..All Nations have faced these same times and economised and got through it..read history please...all nations will respond in the same way to save thierself at this time..read history .........England nearly went broke many times plus other nations in europe..read history.programs got things going again for nations..read history.....this has happened so many times throughout history....red ink is not a new thing anywhere on this earth .....
 Quoting: anonymous 509956
tomato You are not correct sir: The United States did not even come close to pulling out of the depression untill WW2........



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I nominate him for canonization.
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Zappa was a counter-culture hero for sure, and a giant of a thinker-writer.


BUT, wasn't TIPPER GORE - a Democrat - the main force behind censorship of music AFTER that - throughout the 90's?

Pretty sure she was, wouldn't want to inadvertently let any hypocrisy into a fine thread..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


Your point? The people face attack on either side, from both parties.

But I love what KMFDM says in one of their songs:

Our records have stickers with a warning from Tipper
'Cause they're no good for kids if we'd get her we'd strip her

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