Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 510136 United States 09/24/2008 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME Here's a snippet of the exchange: John LOFTON (Washington Times): Our families are under attack from people like you with these lyrics. Frank ZAPPA: Could I make a comment about National Defense: the biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy. And everything that's happened under the Reagan Administration is steering us right down that pipe. Robert NOVAK: Oh, mr Zappa... ZAPPA: Yes, MISTER Zappa... NOVAK: Do you really think...I mean... ZAPPA: I really think! NOVAK: All kidding aside. Is this country, with the permissiveness, that we are moving toward a fascist theocracy? ZAPPA: You bet we are buddy. NOVAK: Do you things that things like this would ever have happened... ZAPPA: Give me that famous smile, buddy. NOVAK: When we were twenty, when we were kids... you're about my age? ZAPPA: I'm forty-five. NOVAK: Well, I'm fifty-five. Do you think that when I was a kid that they would permit songs like that to be sold. I mean permissiveness is a game. I mean you're not really serious if you saying we're going toward a fasist theocracy. ZAPPA: That's right we ARE! Tom BRADEN: Wait a minute, give me one example of a fascist theocracy. ZAPPA: When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion, and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Atilla the Hun... LOFTON: Well then you are an anarchist. Every form of civil government is based on some kind of morality Frank. ZAPPA: Morality in terms of behavior, not in terms of theology! LOFTON: well of course, but look, I mean, I couldn't believe in terms of your lyrics, I mean, uh.... NOVAK: Wait a minute gentlement, we have to take a break now. |
anonnomous coward User ID: 487130 United States 09/24/2008 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME John LOFTON (Washington Times): Our families are under attack from people like you with these lyrics. Frank ZAPPA: Could I make a comment about National Defense: the biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy. And everything that's happened under the Reagan Administration is steering us right down that pipe. Amazing, Right on frank! he rocked! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 493667 United States 09/24/2008 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME Dreamed I was an eskimo Frozen wind began to blow Under my boots and around my toes The frost that bit the ground below It was a hundred degrees below zero... And my mama cried And my mama cried Nanook, a-no-no Nanook, a-no-no Dont be a naughty eskimo Save your money, dont go to the show Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh Well I turned around and I said ho, ho And the northern lights commenced to glow And she said, with a tear in her eye Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 500463 United States 09/24/2008 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME He was ahead of his time. It's no wonder they shot him down. Cancer non the less. It's too bad he didn't live. But then again who does? "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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bitchfromhell User ID: 473633 United States 09/24/2008 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME Here is what Amerika and pre-Nazi Germany have in common. The destruction of a prominent national structure; rushed emergency legislation; the rise of a secretive national security apparatus; attemps to register both firearms and people, coupled with preemptive wars of aggression propelled by fervent nationalism. - Jim Marrs "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" Also, this book states that the first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism, because it is the merger of state and corporate power. In addition, Hitler and George H. W. Bush both mention the "New World Order." When history repeats, do we notice? Will we stop them? Please call your friends and have them call their friends and everyone call your politicians and let them have it. Take to the streets if we have to to stop this madness that has taken over our government. Power to the PEOPLE, not the fascist government. |
CountryJoe User ID: 510149 United States 09/24/2008 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME visionaries are usually done in before they can effect change.. __________ "we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves..Bill Hicks" |
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anonymous User ID: 509956 United States 09/24/2008 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME op in the great depression our gov got folks back to work..Then in time we came out of the depression..All Nations have faced these same times and economised and got through it..read history please...all nations will respond in the same way to save thierself at this time..read history .........England nearly went broke many times plus other nations in europe..read history.programs got things going again for nations..read history.....this has happened so many times throughout history....red ink is not a new thing anywhere on this earth ..... |
Mr. Predictor Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 287257 United States 09/24/2008 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME we was ready to run for president in 1992 but got cancer instead imagine him in the debates instead of Ross Perot "If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 502534 United States 09/24/2008 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME Thanks again Frank. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510121Ditto! Just proves he was an intellectual giant as well as one of the greatest musicians of all times. Greatly loved and missed... |
CountryJoe User ID: 510149 United States 09/24/2008 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME we was ready to run for president in 1992 Quoting: Mr. Predictorbut got cancer instead imagine him in the debates instead of Ross Perot that's in another timeline..;) __________ "we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves..Bill Hicks" |
Grizzled Old Goat User ID: 509672 Canada 09/24/2008 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME BUT, wasn't TIPPER GORE - a Democrat - the main force behind censorship of music AFTER that - throughout the 90's? Pretty sure she was, wouldn't want to inadvertently let any hypocrisy into a fine thread.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 490327 United States 09/24/2008 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME op in the great depression our gov got folks back to work..Then in time we came out of the depression..All Nations have faced these same times and economised and got through it..read history please...all nations will respond in the same way to save thierself at this time..read history .........England nearly went broke many times plus other nations in europe..read history.programs got things going again for nations..read history.....this has happened so many times throughout history....red ink is not a new thing anywhere on this earth ..... Quoting: anonymous 509956 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 509546 United States 09/24/2008 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Holy SHIT: 1986 - FRANK ZAPPA, Crossfire: biggest threat to America today not communism; it's moving America towards fascist theocracy AWESOME Zappa was a counter-culture hero for sure, and a giant of a thinker-writer. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatBUT, wasn't TIPPER GORE - a Democrat - the main force behind censorship of music AFTER that - throughout the 90's? Pretty sure she was, wouldn't want to inadvertently let any hypocrisy into a fine thread.. Your point? The people face attack on either side, from both parties. But I love what KMFDM says in one of their songs: Our records have stickers with a warning from Tipper 'Cause they're no good for kids if we'd get her we'd strip her |