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* THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN *
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511326
9/26/2008 8:39 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
then why do they stop and sputter when they hit the great lake area where no people live and on blue sky days they don t spray Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449656
wrong. i wrote about big circular loops over lake erie that could be seen from cleveland, detroit and ontario. i watched the plane make a bank that looked almost vertical. big 10-mile, oblong loops, about 5 of them.
there's shitloads of chemtrails around the great lakes. where are there caves near the great lakes? cuz you must not get out of yours. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511473
9/26/2008 8:43 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
all you have to do is give a starved idiot a package of ramen noodles to get them to post lies on some internet forum to lend credibility that they arent corrupt scoundrels we need to purge the earth of by killing them in mass, millions of the proven guilty of complicitness in the gears and cogs of the machine that has been oppressing us since humanity arose on earth
Ah, but you see, it's the chemtrail believers who are spreading lies, whether they do it knowingly or not. Quoting: The Guy
Dude, what are you talking about lies? Are you telling me that I'm hallucinating when I see grids of low trails above my city that slowly spread out into an eerie haze?
Lies? lol.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341923
9/26/2008 8:45 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
:planetakof: Quoting: aaron_o.o
Nice pic of a jet used to fight forest fires. What does that have to do with mythical "chemtrails" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341923
9/26/2008 8:46 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Good for you AC. I think it is high time for answers and tired of all the bullshit. We all know that condensation doesn't last very long. Granted there are conditions where the condensate crystalizes into frost and then stays in suspension longer, but that doesn't explain the half life duration of a suspended chem-trail that last a lot longer in the air. I live in St.Louis and I see these things all the time. Not just once in a while and mostly on clear sunny days. I believe that this cover-up has gone on long enough and we should be entitled to the truth. Thanx for posting. Quoting: mj-13
Do you believe cirrus clouds exist? They are chemically the same as contrails. Why would they persist and not contrails? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 341923
9/26/2008 8:47 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
then why do they stop and sputter when they hit the great lake area where no people live and on blue sky days they don t spray Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449656
Why would you think the temperature and moisture content over a lake is the same as over a city? |
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Canuck 
User ID: 510862
9/26/2008 8:53 PM
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Yeah, usually Nighthawk G.House or The Guy are all over this.
Down with chemtrails!
They are PERSISTENT CONTRAILS! Ya friggen loon! They are only water vapors and ice crystals!
Ya nutso's.
Oh boy here we go, debonkers are soundin' like broken records ! 
Yes, DynamicVariable is our newest debunker.
He's in it for the vast amount of cash we are paid to keep you malcontents at bay.
Geeez House, don't you recognize our old friend Snake Airlines? He's in disguise. . . I wonder why???
He certainly is not a "new" debunker.
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919
"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw |
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G. House
User ID: 511437
9/26/2008 9:28 PM
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Geeez House, don't you recognize our old friend Snake Airlines? He's in disguise. . . I wonder why???
He certainly is not a "new" debunker. Quoting: Canuck
No, that's not Snake.
Why do you say that? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511415
9/26/2008 9:45 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Sometimes we see shadows from chemtrails, true !
But at times there are real, dark, trails that travel ahead of the chemtrail, and on the sun-side,
and can´t be a shadow,
When the lines start to disperse, they can do it in diverse directions, a true shadow would always reflect the changes in the trail....so they sure can´t be shadows, no way ! Quoting: Da Swede
Lets have a link to a photo that shows this (on the sun side), and one of the other thing about when the contrail disperses.
And, yes, has anyone actually phoned the government chemtrail guy? |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/26/2008 10:38 PM
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Dude, what are you talking about lies? Are you telling me that I'm hallucinating when I see grids of low trails above my city that slowly spread out into an eerie haze?
Lies? lol.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511473
Not hallucination, misinterpretation. Clouds are constantly in motion. So, along a well-traveled route, a plane leaves a contrail. Five minutes later, that trail has moved and another plane traveling the same route also leaves a trail. Repeat. Before long: grid. Spreading out is only what's to be expected if the resulting ice crystals don't sublime. They only seem eerie to you because you've fallen for the lie that they're not "normal." As for low, I've never seen anything that indicates altitude.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511473
9/27/2008 12:49 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Dude, what are you talking about lies? Are you telling me that I'm hallucinating when I see grids of low trails above my city that slowly spread out into an eerie haze?
Lies? lol....
Not hallucination, misinterpretation. Clouds are constantly in motion. So, along a well-traveled route, a plane leaves a contrail. Five minutes later, that trail has moved and another plane traveling the same route also leaves a trail. Repeat. Before long: grid. Spreading out is only what's to be expected if the resulting ice crystals don't sublime. They only seem eerie to you because you've fallen for the lie that they're not "normal." As for low, I've never seen anything that indicates altitude. Quoting: The Guy
I'm sorry, but you are an idiot.
Go look up the definition of a contrail.
It is frozen exhaust... crystallized in the upper atmosphere, at least 30,000 feet or so.
Chemtrails are extremely low compared to contrails at 30,000 feet.
"Contrails" do not form at low altitudes, it is not cold enough. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511634
9/27/2008 1:08 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
It amazes me as to how many cases of sorethroats and ear complaints we see when the bastards are spraying heavily the day before... |
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critifinkinfactcheck dept
User ID: 511676
9/27/2008 1:34 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
I doubt the guy is a shill ... ;-)
he does it for free.
Its more likely that navy boy guy is EXTREEMELY STUPID ! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474249
9/27/2008 1:36 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Bird farts
farts in the wind, all they are are farts in the wind |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508682
9/27/2008 1:54 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
There is no such thing as a chemtrail! Do not feed the imaginations of these schizophrenic losers.
There is no evidence to back up these delusions.
That's why I just said "trails." The AC believes they're "chemtrails," I believe they're contrails. We agree they're trails.
It's called WEATHER MODIFICATION!! Plain and simple Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510305
Well, actually ... it's called "depopulation". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508682
9/27/2008 1:57 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Today in Sacramento they have been spraying their chemicals or whatever they are all across the sky. I see them from time to time, but today decided that this is enough and that I want answers.
So I started off by calling the city hall, who transferred me to some lady, who transferred me to some guy, who gave me the number of the EPA in San Francisco. I talked to the lady in San Francisco and she immediately knew I was talking about chemtrails as I started to explain it to her. She told me there is a man in Washington D.C. who specifically deals with chemtrails at the EPA I believe.
I just now tried to call him but only got a voicemail. I have a feeling he will most likely tell me that there is nothing to chemtrails and that they are just contrails (even though we all know that contrails are frozen exhaust vapor, and must be at least around 30,000 feet to crystalize).
I wanted to give you this man's name and phone number so that you can also contact him when you see these grids of chemicals being sprayed over your city.
The chemtrails are clear as day and more and more people are starting to notice them. I think it is time we got some answers, so let's start here.
Here ya go:
Kenneth Petche ~ (734)214-4872
Interestingly enough when they spray in Southern Ontario, our weather people call it a smog alert and warn people to stay inside if they have asthma or lung disease. We had one such "smog alert" today. . . damn I was angry!
On a brighter note I look at the economical situation and figure that they will run out of money sooner or later and will not be able to fabricate "smog alerts". Quoting: Canuck
they've probably already run out of money ... why do you think they need another $700 billion ? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 375440
9/27/2008 2:05 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
It's called WEATHER MODIFICATION!! Plain and simple
If they were using planes to inject extra water at the tropopause in order to intentionally alter the weather, they'd just tell us about it. Weather modification is legal, and regulated at the state level. Quoting: The Guy
No, it will not be told. It was not widely known when it was first used against the viet cong along the ho mingh trail. Most of todays uses have to actively looked for, that is if one knows where to look (and what you are looking for)
-- LARC |
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Elephant Worker - NLI
User ID: 386567
9/27/2008 3:01 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
I tried this in Melbourne Australia about 18 months ago. I kept getting bounced between the weather dept and the EPA. Eventually I was passed onto a dead end contact. someone who just doesn't answer the phone and never returns calls.
Good luck with your Washington guy :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511473
9/27/2008 4:04 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
I tried this in Melbourne Australia about 18 months ago. I kept getting bounced between the weather dept and the EPA. Eventually I was passed onto a dead end contact. someone who just doesn't answer the phone and never returns calls.
Good luck with your Washington guy :) Quoting: Elephant Worker - NLI 386567
That's pretty crazy, I think we have the same situation here. I called the guy on Thursday and it went to the voicemail. I didn't leave a message and I haven't called back yet. |
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anonymous
User ID: 511685
9/27/2008 5:12 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
It amazes me as to how many cases of sorethroats and ear complaints we see when the bastards are spraying heavily the day before... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511634
ear plugs keep shampoo water out of your ears that carry fungus and cause ear aches..even after rinsing well..q tip soaked with applecider cider vinegar to to use to mop out ear canel after shampoos will stop and then prevent future ear aches..to get rid of sore throats just garge half water half applecider venegar after brushing teeth..each time then rinse well with clear water..disinfect tooth brushes after each use ...use throw away paper cups plates and plastic spoons forks, during illness.. get tooth cavities filled, bad teeth and gums promotes illness.. |
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critifinkinfactcheck dept
User ID: 511740
9/27/2008 5:18 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
chemtrails are REAL,
turtles posted a while back, someone who did a study on those that see them and those that dont !
THE DIFFERECE IS IN CONSIOUSNESS ! ha ha ha !
WE HAVE AWARNESS TO SEE/FEEL and are a threat !(*)
watch the debunkers techniques , how they operate !
the mirror games, their best confusion tactics...
Intelligence means nothing compared to AWARENESS!
Its awsome to watch this... its a confirmation Im on the right
track..
Just post anything on CHEMTRAILS and you get the usual debunker drivel that would make joseph geobbles proud..
awww.......... Im not able to be mind controlled .
ooooooops ! |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/27/2008 7:02 AM
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I'm sorry, but you are an idiot.
Go look up the definition of a contrail.
It is frozen exhaust... crystallized in the upper atmosphere, at least 30,000 feet or so.
Chemtrails are extremely low compared to contrails at 30,000 feet.
"Contrails" do not form at low altitudes, it is not cold enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511473
Really? I'd like to know how you determined their altitude. The only way I've been able to make an educated guess is by observing what type of clouds are around them, and by observing the apparent size of the plane. When there are other clouds, the trails are among cirrus or cirrocumulus clouds. The planes look the same size as cruising planes whose contrails don't linger, meaning they're at very similar altitudes.
"Chemtrails" are the same as contrails, only formed under different conditions.
Before pronouncing someone else an idiot, make sure you know what you're talking about.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/27/2008 7:05 AM
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If they were using planes to inject extra water at the tropopause in order to intentionally alter the weather, they'd just tell us about it. Weather modification is legal, and regulated at the state level.
No, it will not be told. It was not widely known when it was first used against the viet cong along the ho mingh trail. Most of todays uses have to actively looked for, that is if one knows where to look (and what you are looking for)
-- LARC Quoting: Anonymous Coward 375440
I'm talking about in CONUS. There would be no reason to hide a weather modification program.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511770
9/27/2008 7:10 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
There is no such thing as a chemtrail! Do not feed the imaginations of these schizophrenic losers.
There is no evidence to back up these delusions.
That's why I just said "trails." The AC believes they're "chemtrails," I believe they're contrails. We agree they're trails.
It's called WEATHER MODIFICATION!! Plain and simple Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510305
AND a reflective surface for HAARP implementation
AND a good way to obscure INCOMING
AND a good way to protect us from UV RAYS since our ozone layer is shot
AND a good way to kill us all off, if you really want to go beserk... |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/27/2008 7:10 AM
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chemtrails are REAL,
turtles posted a while back, someone who did a study on those that see them and those that dont !
THE DIFFERECE IS IN CONSIOUSNESS ! ha ha ha !
WE HAVE AWARNESS TO SEE/FEEL and are a threat !(*)
watch the debunkers techniques , how they operate !
the mirror games, their best confusion tactics...
Intelligence means nothing compared to AWARENESS!
Its awsome to watch this... its a confirmation Im on the right
track..
Just post anything on CHEMTRAILS and you get the usual debunker drivel that would make joseph geobbles proud..
awww.......... Im not able to be mind controlled .
ooooooops ! Quoting: critifinkinfactcheckdept 511740
So you're proud of your ignorance? Most people would try to do something about it. That's all I'm asking chemtrail believers to do: Read some books, and learn how the physical world operates before saying what you think isn't "normal."
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/27/2008 7:12 AM
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It's called WEATHER MODIFICATION!! Plain and simple
AND a reflective surface for HAARP implementation
AND a good way to obscure INCOMING
AND a good way to protect us from UV RAYS since our ozone layer is shot
AND a good way to kill us all off, if you really want to go beserk... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 511770
I actually don't think man-made cirrus clouds would be all that effective for those purposes.
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476538
9/27/2008 8:00 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
Today in Sacramento they have been spraying their chemicals or whatever they are all across the sky. I see them from time to time, but today decided that this is enough and that I want answers.
So I started off by calling the city hall, who transferred me to some lady, who transferred me to some guy, who gave me the number of the EPA in San Francisco. I talked to the lady in San Francisco and she immediately knew I was talking about chemtrails as I started to explain it to her. She told me there is a man in Washington D.C. who specifically deals with chemtrails at the EPA I believe.
I just now tried to call him but only got a voicemail. I have a feeling he will most likely tell me that there is nothing to chemtrails and that they are just contrails (even though we all know that contrails are frozen exhaust vapor, and must be at least around 30,000 feet to crystalize).
I wanted to give you this man's name and phone number so that you can also contact him when you see these grids of chemicals being sprayed over your city.
The chemtrails are clear as day and more and more people are starting to notice them. I think it is time we got some answers, so let's start here.
Here ya go:
Kenneth Petche ~ (734)214-4872 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 424731
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G. House
User ID: 511799
9/27/2008 8:34 AM
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There is no such thing as a chemtrail! Do not feed the imaginations of these schizophrenic losers.
There is no evidence to back up these delusions.
That's why I just said "trails." The AC believes they're "chemtrails," I believe they're contrails. We agree they're trails.
It's called WEATHER MODIFICATION!! Plain and simple
Well, actually ... it's called "depopulation". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 508682
And yet the total death rate in the US since 1979 has been decreasing.
Apparently they don't work very well.
We should complain that our tax dollars are being mispent on this massive so-called chemtrail depopulation operation. |
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origin
User ID: 375440
9/27/2008 11:05 AM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
I'm talking about in CONUS. There would be no reason to hide a weather modification program. Quoting: The Guy
CONUS cloud seeding programs are state regulated in cooperation with NOAA and the EPA.
The underlined above is your personal opinion which is unfortunately not shared by those opposed to the ENMOD. The ICJ knows that the natural weather cycles have been disrupted synthetically yet, they pursue no action. There is a reason for the plethora of deceased microbiologists. Should one take it upon themselves to research exactly what subdiscipline they worked in, would find connections to environment modification and highly advanced biochemical markers.
The question, why? |
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The Guy
Are you sure you want to know?
User ID: 349666
9/27/2008 11:27 AM
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CONUS cloud seeding programs are state regulated in cooperation with NOAA and the EPA.
The underlined above is your personal opinion which is unfortunately not shared by those opposed to the ENMOD. The ICJ knows that the natural weather cycles have been disrupted synthetically yet, they pursue no action. There is a reason for the plethora of deceased microbiologists. Should one take it upon themselves to research exactly what subdiscipline they worked in, would find connections to environment modification and highly advanced biochemical markers.
The question, why? Quoting: origin 375440
ENMOD for hostile purposes is illegal, by international law. Non-hostile purposes, however... Anyway, my point is that weather mod wouldn't look anything like supposed "chemtrails."
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 511473
9/27/2008 4:13 PM | | Re: * THE GOVERNMENT CHEMTRAILS MAN * | Quote |
"Chemtrails" are the same as contrails, only formed under different conditions. Quoting: The Guy
Jesus Christ....
Get a fucking clue...
Chemtrails are the same as contrails? lmao... so fucking ridiculous, I'm done arguing with you idiots... |
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