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There is no unity or community in this society
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Poe
User ID: 284011
10/30/2008 3:53 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
It is everyone for themself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503103
Welcome to capitalism.
“Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.”
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510289
10/30/2008 4:06 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
there totally is. i surf a lot, up and down california.
when it's hitting the fan, life and death, it rivals that of any natural disaster.
in fact, just the last time i paddled out, it took four of us to scale the cliff back, as high tide had come in, and the waves were exploding off the rocks.
we were united, and we were community.
and we probably represented the corners of this forum, who knows.
who cares. |
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Js
User ID: 537377
10/30/2008 4:46 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
It is every man competing for special institutional status. Welcome to socialism, also known as "neo"-mercantilism. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 477332
10/30/2008 5:14 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
I think what OP is referring to is the pulling together of society during the '40s (war) and '50s (prosperity, moving up, community) -
Read up on culture creation and how each generation is given its music, fashion, sexual mores, etc. This is ALL PLANNED, decades in advance. And here we thought the '60s war OUR generation - aha, aha, aha.
Personally, during this current election, I've never seen people more divided; it's much worse than the protests during the Vietnam War; we're REALLY divided and hostile toward each other. I'm fully expecting rampant civil unrest after the election with the economy totally flushed down the toilet.
Add in a LOT of ANGER over the housing mess, food prices, an old white or young black guy going into the Whitehouse; wow, it's enough to make anyone in their right mind retreat into their bunkers with lots of ammo and food and ride this sucker out.
Things are going to get VERY nasty. That's why we'll probably have another HUGE-ass war - to 'unite' everyone again.
Works every time. Personally, I'm not falling for it. For I know, nobody, and I mean nobody, is worried about MY ass - only for their own.
Law of the land. Stop hoping and start preparing. |
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D. SMith
User ID: 436409
10/30/2008 5:26 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Like the individual every generation and every society must face their 'dark night of the soul'. Humanity has faced many such challenges in history, each different in one manor are another. We too face great challenges and must overcome them to survive, this is not new, and even though the problem seems large and unmanageable the challenge is to each of us, and to each of us there is the responsibility to respond.
If you see this issue as a great problem, as many on the planet do then you must do your part to build community
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Spirit of Truth 8/17
User ID: 148371
10/30/2008 5:27 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 538765
10/30/2008 5:34 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
It is everyone for themself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503103
this isnt true of all places in the U.S...but many places it is true...
where I live...people are much different...its like Mayberry and Andy Griffith....
we leave our homes and cars unlcoked...do alot of bartering....and even the gas pumps are still analog at many of the gas stations ! ...
of course imsure the day will come, when even this are gets corrupted by the indsutrys and elitsts...but hopefully that wont be for another 20 years or so... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 538765
10/30/2008 5:37 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
if we can detach ourselves from the need and total reliance upon money, then thats most of the battle....
if the future is gonna be a better and safer place, then the key will be for people and scoietys to become more :
SELF SUFFICIENT...
but for now....most people are enslaved to the way the system has been setup..therefore, they are a slave to the system itself...
we allowed it to happen....we embraced it for its conveniences ..... |
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Lost Fisherman
User ID: 226145
10/30/2008 6:36 PM
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The basic problem is houses don't have front porches any more.
No place to congregate and chat for a spell.
Why can I never find Elmer when I need him?
And those who were heard to be insane were thought to be dancing by those who could not see the music. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506655
10/30/2008 6:39 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
monetary based society Quoting: Anonymous Coward 508527
Here ya go!
[link to www.youtube.com]
Enjoy.
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Me114 
aka ladynada
User ID: 323570
10/30/2008 6:45 PM
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Don't forget "Tradition" or "culture" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503813
we forgot our culture..
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The TWO Witnesses are Mom and Dad & they're coming to give YOU a SPANKING
[link to heartdaughter.com]
Official Elijah Blog
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 261867
10/30/2008 6:47 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Beware of FALSE unity and community. |
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Js
User ID: 521778
10/30/2008 7:33 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
The masses will always passively recieve their highest ideals from the media.
Only the few will ever see beyond that.
And they are like fish that somehow lept out into the open air... and dove back in knowing he can never explain to others how much he hates feeling wet. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491732
10/30/2008 7:41 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
If we are are sitting here clicking away, waiting for the next "pinned thread", a term that barely existed ten years, how can we participate in any unity, when we could be participating in activities such as:
Forming an unemployed's support group
Network for elderly neighbors' needs
Volunteer at the nearest food pantry
Repair local schools
Form a a neighborhood group for taxes, credit problems, debt issues, etc. etc.
Addicted to our singularity, we shun all unity. |
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gooderboy
User ID: 70293
10/30/2008 8:03 PM
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It is everyone for themself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503103
... sorry there OP, but no it's not... lol, you just don't know small town country kinda livin' is all. And really... go and check it out. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 534446
10/30/2008 8:36 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Personal success should be avoided at all cost. |
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amazination
User ID: 153788
10/30/2008 8:50 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Unity or community is where you make it. I make do with the pockets of sanity that I can manage to niche out but it would be nice to live in a society where trust and respect held sway.
That said, the reality is something different than that and daydreams of utopia only go so far.
If one is really serious about all this, the 'problem of society' can be found within yourself. As humans we share the same questions, fears and sorrows no matter any superficial differences.
The question really is, can a whole new way of being come about? What must end to actually make it happen.. the fears, distortion and madness arise in thought... they are thought, and we are our thoughts.. there is no separation. So, can the mind itself actually see all this and come to a point where it ends its nonsense.
When the individual can do this, society will alter for society is comprised of individuals. |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 8:57 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
no stated common purpose..
that's the problem..
in the old days they would just build impossible things like pyramids and shit and that was the common purpose..
now everyone sees through the bullshit..
the only thing that would bring people together now is something truly OUT OF THIS WORLD...
will we see that in our life times? Quoting: ^TrInItY^
"the only thing that would bring people together now is something truly OUT OF THIS WORLD..."
Or hatred. You know...like illegal immigrants/Mexicans, etc.
Tptb have been fairly successful with the "muslim/islamic fundamentalist/terrorist" angle.
Trouble is...tptb ALSO have the economic situation to deal with; most Americans don't care about wars somewhere else any more (unless there's nothing else going on).
PLUS...this election is just !WoW!, imo...
I'm quite enjoying this spectacle, heh 
('cept for the innocents of this world  )
As for "aliens" saving us...
Well, I know that we can "beam" ourselves wherever we want, whenever we want; we don't need a ship, eh... ;)
In other words, maybe they'll show (I think...prolly), or maybe they won't.
It's all up to US now!
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:01 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
It is everyone for themself.
Game Theory owns you.
hahahahaha
Adam Smith needs revision! We mustn't, "do what's best for ourselves only", nor "do what's best for others only", but we must "do what's best for ourselves and others."
John Nash is the man.
I respect beer.
I don't have time for these classes, these books, memorizing the weak assumptions of lesser mortals!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501511
...we must "do what's best for ourselves and others"
Indeed! THIS is what I mean when I think of "community"...
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539074
10/30/2008 9:03 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
It is everyone for themself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 503103
"culture" is fucked.
I agree.
self self self
no us us us
or we we we
or ours ours ours
its
me me me
mine mine mine
fuck you fuck you fuck you
dilemma dilemma dilemma
crisis crisis crisis
drama drama drama
bullshit bullshit bullshit
WASTE OF TIME AND BEING |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539102
10/30/2008 9:04 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
and most successful societies are homogenous(right word?) Thats why tptb love multiculturalism. Divide and conquer. Quoting: Darkreflection
multiculturalism = the preservation of different cultures or cultural identities within a unified society, as a state or nation.
i beg to differ, but, i would think tptb would not like multiculturalism because it unifies all cultures under on umbrella. unity makes us stronger. |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:07 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
and it really must change.
"It" can't change. You have to be the change, remember?
Community means you have to know your neighbors and want to interact with them. So there is a place to start. It may feel like a task one person couldn't possibly take on alone, but that is where we have to start. I can't convience you and you can't convience me. I have to be what I want to see around me. If I'm sitting behind a computer, alone in my room, I am saying that is where I want everyone to be. And the only unity there is that we gather on glp now and then to vent or see what others are saying. Saying.
Not being. And in being we are the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898
"If I'm sitting behind a computer, alone in my room, I am saying that is where I want everyone to be."
I don't follow your logic here, AC...
Why would you want everyone to be doing what you're doing?
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 506675
10/30/2008 9:10 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
no stated common purpose.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^
There's that phrase again.
[link to video.google.com]
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:12 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Like the individual every generation and every society must face their 'dark night of the soul'. Humanity has faced many such challenges in history, each different in one manor are another. We too face great challenges and must overcome them to survive, this is not new, and even though the problem seems large and unmanageable the challenge is to each of us, and to each of us there is the responsibility to respond.
If you see this issue as a great problem, as many on the planet do then you must do your part to build community
Begin Quoting: D. SMith 436409
We have! :)
Begun, I mean...
Nice to see you, D. SMith!
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Unity or community is where you make it. I make do with the pockets of sanity that I can manage to niche out but it would be nice to live in a society where trust and respect held sway.
That said, the reality is something different than that and daydreams of utopia only go so far.
If one is really serious about all this, the 'problem of society' can be found within yourself. As humans we share the same questions, fears and sorrows no matter any superficial differences.
The question really is, can a whole new way of being come about? What must end to actually make it happen.. the fears, distortion and madness arise in thought... they are thought, and we are our thoughts.. there is no separation. So, can the mind itself actually see all this and come to a point where it ends its nonsense.
When the individual can do this, society will alter for society is comprised of individuals. Quoting: amazination 153788
"The question really is, can a whole new way of being come about? What must end to actually make it happen.. the fears, distortion and madness arise in thought... they are thought, and we are our thoughts.. there is no separation. So, can the mind itself actually see all this and come to a point where it ends its nonsense."
Lovely prose, amazination!
My answer...? A resounding "YES!" 
Hey gooder! 
What he said, eh...!
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 506773
10/30/2008 9:20 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
no stated common purpose..
that's the problem..
in the old days they would just build impossible things like pyramids and shit and that was the common purpose..
now everyone sees through the bullshit..
the only thing that would bring people together now is something truly OUT OF THIS WORLD...
will we see that in our life times? Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Common purpose...weren't they slaves? |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:21 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
The basic problem is houses don't have front porches any more.
No place to congregate and chat for a spell. Quoting: Lost Fisherman
Yup! 
And kitchens where y'all sit around and shoot the shit, or make music, or 
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539102
10/30/2008 9:25 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
i like this thread. it has made me think. america has an "us against them" mentality. when the mindset is criticized, people go into a frenzy to justify their grouping.
i think that, people who claim to be cristians, or intellects, or evolved or spiritual should possess empathy and compassion for those who are different from them.
i think that many people forget, and this is in regards to america, many people forget that we are all in the same boat in regards to the economy, health care and foreign policy. whether you are rich or not shouldn't make a difference because america is only as strong as the people who are on the lowest rung.
my reasoning is similiar to: "a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link". since we can't out right murder people of the lowest social order, we must find a way to strengthen them.
if america can not compete for jobs, america as a whole will suffer. because of the -global economy- coupled with the computer age, americans are competing on an individual basis with other people around the world. it is no longer, soley, a country competing against a country.
if our people are not educated we will keep slipping down the statistical poles until we become what some scorn, we will become a third world country.
i often wonder why public college is not free. anyone who can learn should be allowed to. i often wonder how come we don't train people, so they have a skill that can be used in rebuilding america's infrastructure. the people can make money, we can have our roads, bridges, and electrical grids fixed, and money can be spent in the local economies. that will help fund schools, and police dept. and increase local businesses profits.
as a society, we do not have to become socialist, we just need to do what we sincerely can and strengthen the weakest links. |
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<October>
User ID: 427959
10/30/2008 9:25 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
and most successful societies are homogenous(right word?) Thats why tptb love multiculturalism. Divide and conquer.
multiculturalism = the preservation of different cultures or cultural identities within a unified society, as a state or nation.
i beg to differ, but, i would think tptb would not like multiculturalism because it unifies all cultures under on umbrella. unity makes us stronger. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 539102
Agreed...!
Check out Canada, eh! 
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539121
10/30/2008 9:27 PM | | Re: There is no unity or community in this society | Quote |
Yeah...You haven't seen nothing yet... |
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