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Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go?
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AsperGirl
User ID: 637830
4/3/2009 7:17 AM
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THE “NOAH’S FLOOD” THEORY
In their 1999 book, Noah’s Flood, Columbia University marine geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman describe a possible scenario at the end of the last ice age—about 12,000 years ago. As the Earth’s temperatures rose and the ice melted, waters in the Mediterranean Sea swelled, apparently putting pressure on a natural earthen dam that separated the Black Sea (then a freshwater lake) from the Mediterranean.
About 7,500 years ago the Mediterranean water supposedly spilled over the earthen dam and into the Black Sea. This flooding raised water levels in the Black Sea region by about 6 inches (15 centimeters) per day. The salt water of the Mediterranean was much denser than fresh water of the Black Sea.
As this freshwater lake became the enlarged Black Sea that we know today, the denser salt water sank to the bottom, and the fresh water rose to the top. This effect stifled oxygen exchange between the surface and deeper waters. With no oxygen, creatures trapped in the saltwater layer soon died.
In 1999 Robert Ballard lent support to Ryan and Pitman’s theory by identifying an ancient shoreline beneath 550 feet (168 meters) of water off the coast of Sinop, in northern Turkey. Sediment samples confirmed that the Black Sea was a freshwater lake before about 7,500 years ago and that it supported saltwater species after the date of the proposed flood.
This catastrophe for living creatures has been a boon for underwater archaeologists: The deep, oxygen-poor layer at the bottom of the Black Sea cannot support wood-boring mollusks or other creatures that could consume wooden structures.
The Black Sea was an important link in ancient trade routes between Greece, Egypt, and the Near East. It is possible that ancient ships lie completely intact on the bottom. It is also possible that ancient settlements consumed by the rising waters may lie entombed in the oxygen-less “dead” layer—looking just as they did when the waters started rising.
from national geographic.
this theory may explain the summerian/babylonean, jewish, greek and roman myths of the flood. It is sure that rising water levels, flooded some parts of the old world including the area between tigris and Euphrates (Mesopotamia).
The rest of the myths around the world, and especially those from the passific ocean also talk about fire. (Plato talked of fire as well, he said "there was flood in Greece and fire in Ethiopia.) Quoting: Ostria
I thought they found some shore towns that were 1000m below the surface?
I just checked and national geographic has a blog where the are documenting exploring excavations around the black sea from that ancient biblical flood. But they aren't excavating under the water, obviously.
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DGN 
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
4/23/2009 4:36 PM
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The rain came from above, it was not a tidal wave. It did so for 40 days and 40 nights and in the end that is how the polar ice caps were formed. Why do you think tptb are trying to melt them... so to flood the earth and wipe out one third of mankind... global warming is a hoax and 15 years ago we were not ready for the lie but now as we move into a green planet phase we will actually be tricked into doing the opposite... soon regulations and laws will be passed that will allow even the so called "goodguys" to be thrown in prison. Soon, imagine a world where possesion of seeds to grow your own food will be against the law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 640471
Global warming is a hoax? Havn't you seen the pictures of the snow melt on mountains around the world compared to 20 years ago?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660493
4/23/2009 4:43 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
pole shift from nibiru passing.
The water came from the ocean and receeded back into it, OP.It was a huge tidal wave 3- 6 000 feet high.
And AC 508527 is probably right, it was caused by a pole shift or a passing body. Quoting: levski
Or, a space rock impacting an ocean? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 653916
4/23/2009 4:45 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
EVERY culture in the world has the Flood story. EVERY ONE. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 663054
4/23/2009 5:48 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Some believe that in times of Moses there was a big water layer over the earth that kept the climate perfect all year. Also explains the giants, and dinosaurs. This layer changed the atmosphere prolonging life and making things grow larger. Something causes it to collapse and it flooded the world. The ozone layer was than formed and the water is rapidly evaporating.
Others believe that it was the polar shift which caused the floods.
I like your scriptural specutulation..."According to their wish, this escapes their notice, there were heavens from of old and earth standing compactly out of water, then in water, by the word of God". 2Pe3:5 Quoting: DGN
bullshit &  etc |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 641266
4/23/2009 5:49 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Florida |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 474734
4/23/2009 5:52 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
em well all the water was from the previous eirth warming and after thea it turned into ice everybody knows this! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 641266
4/23/2009 5:52 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Seriously, OP, it was the ice age ending. The last ice ended 11,000 years ago.
Niagra Falls was once four states across. it' wasn't the whole world, but if it's the only world you know, and there is nothing but water there, then it would seem so. But the oceans reportedly rose more than 500 feet after the ice melted. |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/9/2009 1:42 PM
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Seriously, OP, it was the ice age ending. The last ice ended 11,000 years ago.
Niagra Falls was once four states across. it' wasn't the whole world, but if it's the only world you know, and there is nothing but water there, then it would seem so. But the oceans reportedly rose more than 500 feet after the ice melted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 641266
I thought the frozen poles came after the flood, when the water canopy over the earth was gone and it got cold.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 675386
5/9/2009 2:20 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Is it a fairy tale? Quoting: DGN
Great tsunami caused by meteor !! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 632167
5/9/2009 2:49 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
The Earth is expanding. Ever notice the continents look like they might fit together, but they don't...not quite? Well if you shrink the entire globe by 30% ..bingo , all the pieces now fit. So this expansion of mass or volume is mostly H20 that is being generated underneath the earths crust. Kinda like the land masses are floating on a dense salt brine thats building up pressure, much like a volcano. Once in a while the eggshell cracks, the landmasses lift and sink, and water erupts to cover the land masses redistributing and eqalizing water and land mass. Where and how this water generation process works I don't know. All this water had to come from somewhere. Is the mid Atlantic ridge an indication? When she blows a wall of water miles high jets out reaching our upper atmosphere. Instant flood and then rains...40 days and nights? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 674946
5/9/2009 3:25 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
The Quran, Surat Houd 11:40-44:
[11:39]
And ye shall know to whom a punishment that will confound him cometh, and upon whom a lasting doom will fall.
[11:40]
(Thus it was) till, when Our commandment came to pass and the oven gushed forth water, We said: Load therein two of every kind, a pair (the male and female), and thy household, save him against whom the word hath gone forth already, and those who believe. And but a few were they who believed with him.
[11:41]
And he said: Embark therein! In the name of Allah be its course and its mooring. Lo! my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.
[11:42]
And it sailed with them amid waves like mountains, and Noah cried unto his son - and he was standing aloof - O my son! Come ride with us, and be not with the disbelievers.
[11:43]
He said: I shall betake me to some mountain that will save me from the water. (Noah) said: This day there is none that saveth from the commandment of Allah save him on whom He hath had mercy. And the wave came in between them, so he was among the drowned.
[11:44]
And it was said: O earth! Swallow thy water and, O sky! be cleared of clouds! And the water was made to subside. And the commandment was fulfilled. And it (the ship) came to rest upon (the mount) Al-Judi and it was said: A far removal for wrongdoing folk! (Mermaduke Pickthal)
This reveals one thing that water came from up and down. That is the same because the water from sky is originally from earth. Two marvelous Quranic miracles are shown here, the first is reference to the hydrologic cycle that rain water is from within the earth, because all the flood water were discribed in the verse as :...thy water. The second miracle is mentioning the name of the mountain upon which Noah's ark rests:Al Judi Mountain, Turkey. Both miracles have not been made known except in modern times. see 55a.net |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 675512
5/9/2009 3:31 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Is it a fairy tale? Quoting: DGN
The water came from within the Earth and went both ways some up and down till land surfaced again broken. |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/12/2009 12:19 PM
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The Earth is expanding. Ever notice the continents look like they might fit together, but they don't...not quite? Well if you shrink the entire globe by 30% ..bingo , all the pieces now fit. So this expansion of mass or volume is mostly H20 that is being generated underneath the earths crust. Kinda like the land masses are floating on a dense salt brine thats building up pressure, much like a volcano. Once in a while the eggshell cracks, the landmasses lift and sink, and water erupts to cover the land masses redistributing and eqalizing water and land mass. Where and how this water generation process works I don't know. All this water had to come from somewhere. Is the mid Atlantic ridge an indication? When she blows a wall of water miles high jets out reaching our upper atmosphere. Instant flood and then rains...40 days and nights? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 632167
I wonder why the earth wasn't just made as it is now from the start... and what will happen in the future? 
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"The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 |
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guest
User ID: 677571
5/12/2009 12:41 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Charles Hapgood, 'Path of the Pole'
[link to www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com]
please read following chapter, too.
A.C.
are you the same Anonymous Coward who 10 years ago posted on the Boycott Microsoft forum ? |
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planetbarb
User ID: 648345
5/12/2009 1:57 PM
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Is it a fairy tale? Quoting: DGN
Oceans sloshing after the planet stopped rotating. Then when it started rotating again the oceans sloshed the other way and eventually went where they were supposed to be. |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/13/2009 3:09 PM
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Is it a fairy tale?
Oceans sloshing after the planet stopped rotating. Then when it started rotating again the oceans sloshed the other way and eventually went where they were supposed to be. Quoting: planetbarb
Hmmm... the earth spinning at 25,000 mph stops, with no force of resistance, then accelerates back to same speed going the other way?
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"The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 678322
5/13/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
when the stress on the Pacific plate caused by Chaiten's non stop eruption FINALLY gives, maybe we'll see another great flood?
[link to www.aipchile.cl]
Chaiten webcam is 'broken' BTW.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 669258
5/13/2009 4:06 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Is it a fairy tale?
DGN
No -not a fairy tale.
But you are making the same error so many make. - You think the water covered the whole earth.
It did not, but covered only the part where the Nephilim and their offspring were located.
That was the purpose of the flood to begin with, ridding the earth of the children (with human women)that the fallen ones had spawned.
Even Chinese history speaks of this flood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 162434
Bingo. |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/14/2009 10:59 AM
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Is it a fairy tale?
DGN
No -not a fairy tale.
But you are making the same error so many make. - You think the water covered the whole earth.
It did not, but covered only the part where the Nephilim and their offspring were located.
That was the purpose of the flood to begin with, ridding the earth of the children (with human women)that the fallen ones had spawned.
Even Chinese history speaks of this flood.
Bingo. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 669258
Here's what I think, after all I wasn't there but God was ... "And the deluge went on for forty days upon the earth, and the waters kept increasing and began carrying the ark and it was floating high above the earth. 18 And the waters became overwhelming and kept increasing greatly upon the earth, but the ark kept going on the surface of the waters. 19 And the waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered. 20 Up to fifteen cubits the waters overwhelmed them and the mountains became covered." Ge7:17
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/15/2009 11:03 AM
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Is it a fairy tale?
The water came from within the Earth and went both ways some up and down till land surfaced again broken. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 675512
When the underground water came up, and surface of the earth sank down forming the deep oceans, how did mountains rise up, I'd think they would be pulled down level? 
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"The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/17/2009 12:08 PM
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THE “NOAH’S FLOOD” THEORY
In their 1999 book, Noah’s Flood, Columbia University marine geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman describe a possible scenario at the end of the last ice age—about 12,000 years ago. As the Earth’s temperatures rose and the ice melted, waters in the Mediterranean Sea swelled, apparently putting pressure on a natural earthen dam that separated the Black Sea (then a freshwater lake) from the Mediterranean.
About 7,500 years ago the Mediterranean water supposedly spilled over the earthen dam and into the Black Sea. This flooding raised water levels in the Black Sea region by about 6 inches (15 centimeters) per day. The salt water of the Mediterranean was much denser than fresh water of the Black Sea.
As this freshwater lake became the enlarged Black Sea that we know today, the denser salt water sank to the bottom, and the fresh water rose to the top. This effect stifled oxygen exchange between the surface and deeper waters. With no oxygen, creatures trapped in the saltwater layer soon died.
In 1999 Robert Ballard lent support to Ryan and Pitman’s theory by identifying an ancient shoreline beneath 550 feet (168 meters) of water off the coast of Sinop, in northern Turkey. Sediment samples confirmed that the Black Sea was a freshwater lake before about 7,500 years ago and that it supported saltwater species after the date of the proposed flood.
This catastrophe for living creatures has been a boon for underwater archaeologists: The deep, oxygen-poor layer at the bottom of the Black Sea cannot support wood-boring mollusks or other creatures that could consume wooden structures.
The Black Sea was an important link in ancient trade routes between Greece, Egypt, and the Near East. It is possible that ancient ships lie completely intact on the bottom. It is also possible that ancient settlements consumed by the rising waters may lie entombed in the oxygen-less “dead” layer—looking just as they did when the waters started rising.
from national geographic.
this theory may explain the summerian/babylonean, jewish, greek and roman myths of the flood. It is sure that rising water levels, flooded some parts of the old world including the area between tigris and Euphrates (Mesopotamia).
The rest of the myths around the world, and especially those from the passific ocean also talk about fire. (Plato talked of fire as well, he said "there was flood in Greece and fire in Ethiopia.)
I thought they found some shore towns that were 1000m below the surface?
I just checked and national geographic has a blog where the are documenting exploring excavations around the black sea from that ancient biblical flood. But they aren't excavating under the water, obviously.
[ link to ngm.nationalgeographic.com]
That would not Match Noah's flood, it occurred around 4,500 years ago.
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"The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 |
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nomuse (NLI)
User ID: 679859
5/17/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
DGN -- I've been meaning to ask this. Isn't the simplest and most plausible explanation for the arrival of the waters of the Flood, and their retreat towards the end of Noah's voyage, simple that God Did It?
Why should the supernatural require a physical explanation? Why should we try to hamper the actions of a Deity with mundane physics? Didn't He create physics as well? Then He should be able to violate them any time He needs to.
This is my question, then, to all Flood Geologists -- why this effort to find a naturalistic explanation for the Biblical Flood? |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
User ID: 633927
5/19/2009 9:51 PM
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DGN -- I've been meaning to ask this. Isn't the simplest and most plausible explanation for the arrival of the waters of the Flood, and their retreat towards the end of Noah's voyage, simple that God Did It?
Why should the supernatural require a physical explanation? Why should we try to hamper the actions of a Deity with mundane physics? Didn't He create physics as well? Then He should be able to violate them any time He needs to.
This is my question, then, to all Flood Geologists -- why this effort to find a naturalistic explanation for the Biblical Flood? Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 679859
"And Noah was six hundred years old when the deluge of waters occurred on the earth. So Noah went in, and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark ahead of the waters of the deluge. Of every clean beast and of every beast that is not clean and of the flying creatures and everything that moves on the ground, they went in by twos to Noah inside the ark, male and female, just as God had commanded Noah. 10 And seven days later it turned out that the waters of the deluge came upon the earth.
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on this day all the springs of the vast watery deep were broken open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. And the downpour upon the earth went on for forty days and forty nights." Ge7:6 My guess is people cannot covceive of divine vengance upon a world of violence, then or now. However.... due to pure and simple logic on this subject, the intergalactically coveted "THIS BUD'S FOR YOU AWARD" is hereby bestowed upon 859, for simply making sence! 
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DGN
Revelation in real time
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5/20/2009 11:15 AM
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Is it a fairy tale?
Great tsunami caused by meteor !! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 675386
No... that would make a wave, not more water.
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DGN
Revelation in real time
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5/22/2009 11:51 AM
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Warning! Timelines are shortened to hide truth! Quoting: Arboriel
The truth of God's kingdom to come, to prevent nuclear genocide however, cannot be hid ..."And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, every one who is found written down in the book. 2 And there will be many of those asleep in the ground of dust who will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to reproaches [and] to indefinitely lasting abhorrence.
3 “And the ones having insight will shine like the brightness of the expanse; and those who are bringing the many to righteousness, like the stars to time indefinite, even forever.
4 “And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant.” Da12:1
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DGN
Revelation in real time
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5/28/2009 11:14 PM
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Florida Quoting: Anonymous Coward 641266
Uh... wouldn't that be land? 
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 690093
5/28/2009 11:29 PM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
It rained.
It evaporated. |
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DGN
Revelation in real time
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6/1/2009 12:41 AM
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The catch is it only happend in the middle east. Here's what you have to remember. Back than, people thought that was the world. They thought the Earth was flat, and there was no global communication.
How can you be so ignorant?
The Sumerians( Shumerians) knew about all the planets in our Solar system. They even knew about the precession(sp?) cycle of the Earth's axis, a process taking 26 ooo years to complete.
Then this knowledge was supppresed(sp?) during the middle ages Quoting: Anonymous Coward 533177
Probably a dumb question but ... who are the Sumerians? What else do theose donut holes know? 
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Anonymous Coward
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6/1/2009 12:46 AM | | Re: Noah's flood. Where did all the water come from, where'd it all go? | Quote |
Is it a fairy tale? Quoting: DGN
It's called shifting of the oceans and there's plenty of evidence. Your endless tirad of antireligion is getting a little old. |
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