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AT this point I've got a pretty decent list of non-perishable foods put together, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. I'm putting in a bulk order tomorrow, but it won't be the complete supply, so I don't miss anything that may be essential. Throw out ideas, links (I'm sure there are a number of old threads on GLP alone, but I don't have the time right this second) etc. Thanks for all your help over the years GLP!
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Food Plan For Immediate Action


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Concerned about what might happen to you and your family/loved ones if the system collapses? You Ought To Be!

Got food? Longterm foodstuffs that will last and enable a good variety of basic meals? This thread will discuss just that. What you can buy/acquire now that will see you through.

First, got basic cooking tools, some cookbooks? You can find this stuff at almost any THRIFT or RESALE. If money is a concern, and why wouldn't it be; try checking some of these places out to get basic gear you might need. You want STAINLESS STEEL cook pots, quality knives without serrated edges for easy sharpening. Lots of spoons in all sizes. Grain and Meat grinders, pepper mills all sorts of gear to enable you to process your food including raw meat.

What do you need for the basics in food?
I endorse ORGANIC foodstuffs because they can improve your immune system and general health. Eating is our main activity to promote health and well-being. The life is the blood; very true. Build good blood and your body is fit and able to weather the storm. Eat poorly and you will feel poorly and likely be sick more often.

Salt and other basic seasonings are important. You want to be able to make basic foods palateable or adapt them to have variety. Garlic is a great food to ward off illness. Onions the same way. Raw Garlic and dried onion bits are defnite musts. Store raw onions in a cool dark place. They'll last several months easy or dehydrate them now for longterm storage.

Basic foods store the best.
Hard Red Winter Wheat offers the highest protein count of any wheat variety. Makes the most nutritious breads. For pastries or cakes, you want some lighter flour. Golden or White Wheat works for those purposes. All can be found in your typical grocery-chain bulk dept or your healthfood store. A few 2lb bags of Fleischman or Red Star yeast, lasts forever and very cheap, enables you to bake. You will need a grain mill to turn wheatberries into flour. Ready milled flour will store for months, so buy some of that now for immediate use; but you want Wheatberries/raw wheat for storage. Gotta have that grain mill to get much use of your raw wheat. Probably about 300lbs is enough for a family of 4 for a year. Maybe less if you store a wide variety of other basic foods.

Short-Grain Brown Rice is a huge component in the global diet. Goes with everything and is a superfood. Combine with some canned beans or your favourite bean recipe and you get a Complete Protein. About 200 lbs for a family of 4 will last a year.

Rolled Oats. Can't beat oatmeal and granola for basic breakfast or wholesome snack foods. Make your own granola.

Beans. Very high protein source. Good with a small amount of meat for flavoring. Sausage works very well. Black beans, Small Red Beans, Navy Beans for soups, Pinto Beans for mexican, Garbanzo Beans for Mid-East. Then you have Peas and Lentils. Look for a Macrobiotic cookbook at your library. Lots of ideas in there for basic bean recipes. Red Beans and Rice: YUM>! Think about variety. Anasazi beans and Adzuki beans have great flavor. Black, Navy, Pinto and maybe Kidney beans are most common to recipes. Buy a variety and have at least 100lbs to choose from.

Honey, better than sugar for sweetener. Molasses same way. Maple syrup pretty pricey, sugar for trading or baking. Honey lasts a LONG TIME. Maybe 40lbs for a family for a year? How much honey do you eat now?

Canned tomatoes are a mainstay. Can't really go wrong with any canned food, especially if you can find organics. You might find that Muir Glen org tomato products are as cheap as Hunts or DelMonte. Crushed or whole tomatoes are basis for much pasta or chili type caseroles, spaghettis, and ragouts. Tomato paste is great for thickener. Some come with Basil already included.

Butter is great, stores well. Olive Oil better for you, also stores well. Extra virgin for salads, reg olive oil for cooking/browning. Also endorse Mazola corn oil. Popcorn is a creature comfort food. Kosher salt, grind it yourself for use on your popcorn. If you like fried food, try soybean oil. Keep a can of Crisco for greasing your baking vessels.

Pastas of any kind store well. Spaghetti works for soup and many dishes besides the obvious. Egg noodles also for soup like homemade chicken noodle. Macaroni also for caseroles.

Canned meats like Spam, Dinty Moore stews, canned chicken, tuna, and turkey, devilled ham, vienna sausage; about anything canned is already cooked and edible out of the can. Crackers and Pilot Bread, tortillas are decent storable breads.
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Thanks guys!
You rock Lester!! Been doing a bunch of reading of your old posts the last couple days. You the man!
Just a thought for those looking to bulk up, if you know anyone who works in the food service industry, try to buy through them, as you will have comparable prices to any of the big bulk chains, and it doesn't fall under your name.
Keep em comin GLP!
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Honey stays up to 1000 years without perishing in the right conditions.
It's one of the healthiest food you can imagine.
It taste good.
Gives you a feeling of saturation even if have only eaten a little bit of it.
It's the perfect food to store!
Very high in energy too.

Chocolate is also in the same category.
Tomato concentrate in cans is also a good alternative.

What you must avoid are things that you have to cook and that are perishable quickly.

Canned fish is also fine but doesn't give a feeling of saturation.

Olive oil is the most energy dense food there is.

Avoid too much floor and psta's.
No nutritional value and must be processed first.

Really honey is my 1st choice ingredient for survival.

ohyeah
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Taken from the Red Cross

* Ready-to-eat canned meats, fruits and vegetables. (Be sure to include a manual can opener)
* Canned juices, milk and soup (if powdered, store extra water).
* High energy foods, such as peanut butter, jelly, crackers, granola bars and trail mix.
* Comfort foods, such as hard candy, sweetened cereals, candy bars and cookies.
* Instant coffee, tea bags.
* Foods for infants, elderly persons or persons on special diets, if necessary.
* Compressed food bars. They store well, are lightweight, taste good and are nutritious.
* Trail mix. It is available as a prepackaged product or you can assemble it on your own.
* Dried foods. They can be nutritious and satisfying, but have some have a lot of salt content, which promotes thirst. Read the label.
* Freeze-dried foods. They are tasty and lightweight, but will need water for reconstitution.
* Instant Meals. Cups of noodles or cups of soup are a good addition, although they need water for reconstitution.
* Snack-sized canned goods. Good because they generally have pull-top lids or twist-open keys.
* Prepackaged beverages. Those in foil packets and foil-lined boxes are suitable because they are tightly sealed and will keep for a long time.

Food Options to Avoid:

* Commercially dehydrated foods. They can require a great deal of water for reconstitution and extra effort in preparation.
* Bottled foods. They are generally too heavy and bulky, and break easily.
* Meal-sized canned foods. They are usually bulky and heavy.
* Whole grains, beans, pasta. Preparation could be complicated under the circumstances of a disaster.



I am with the poster above. Honey!


Here's the deal, nothing you might buy, will last forever.
I say....buy seeds and start growing stuff that easily reproduces.
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agree on the honey, that was top on the list. I'm looking for items that are also "bulk" in the sense that it takes preparation for single meals. Can't keep leftovers if you can't refrigerate. I'm also looking into constructing a smoker from an old freezer to prepare foods for long term storage. Hunting and fishing will also have to be a key proponent, and that's where the smoker will come in handy. Salt will also be a key to preservation, so that is high on the list, as well as being useful for some aspects of hygiene (dental, etc.). Baking soda also high on the list, for foods and dental hygiene.
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also, with a lot of the processed stuff, you have a lot of trash... Lets try not to start over where we left off so to speak... Look at it the way you would a long back packing trip. Don't carry in what you wouldn't want to carry out...
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SPAM , SERIOUSLY , HERMITICALLY SEALED ,PLUS HEAVILY SALTED PORK,(SPELLINGS WRONG ^ DONT GIVE A SHIT) STAYS GOOD FOR OVER A DECADE EASY,CHEAP, STORES GOOD EVEN IN HOT HEAT ,US MILITARY USED IT AS A SUPPLEMENT C-RATION ALL DURING WORLD WAR 2 THATS WHY HAWAII'AN LOVE THE STUFF CUZ' THE NAVY BROUGHT IT THERE BY THE PALLET LOAD
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HONEY IS ALSO EXCELLENT FOR BURNS AND A COAGULANT FOR WOUNDS
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Snickers bars
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"Hard Red Winter Wheat" - hard to digest for most people and definitely not a good idea for those who suffer from celiac disease.

Any other suggestions?
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Bulgur. Bulgur is pre cooked whole durm wheat. Just add water salt or sugar. Your daily calories and protein ready.
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Can we discuss the shelf life of all of these foods?

I've already slowly started acquiring beans/rice and other foods each time I go grocery shopping. My main concern is...I've been expecting WW3 for like 6 years now and it hasn't happened yet. I want to know if I'm storing this food that it's not going to go bad after four or five years.

Let's discuss shelf life and vacuum seal methods. So far I plan on purchasing Mason jars and a vacuum pump sealer from www.pump-n-seal.com
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Can we discuss the shelf life of all of these foods?

I've already slowly started acquiring beans/rice and other foods each time I go grocery shopping. My main concern is...I've been expecting WW3 for like 6 years now and it hasn't happened yet. I want to know if I'm storing this food that it's not going to go bad after four or five years.

Let's discuss shelf life and vacuum seal methods. So far I plan on purchasing Mason jars and a vacuum pump sealer from www.pump-n-seal.com
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abomb
Six years is a lot it would be wise to replace the oldest items.
As for WW3 2010 or 2012 if doesn't happen before 2012 it never will.

But keep in mind that WW2 started after the great depression after the deutsche mark was hyperinflated.
When the dollar crashes it will be the same story the bankers will stage a war to divert the attention of the crowd.

so your preparations were not in vain after all!
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Read the food labels. Spam is high in salt and( MSG ).

Most soups are loaded with crap.

Very few choices left,except organic.
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Instant Mashed Potatoes
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Seeds. Non-perishable, AND renewable.
Things change when you least expect it.
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You will only (possibly) need supplies for 5 months - not years.
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beef jerky, spam( suspicious passed as meat)
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yeah real good OP, store "recipe books" like a fking retard lol

bunch of clueless armchar survivalist wanna-be's lol

don't forget to hoard guns and bullets retard lol
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chlorine
Peroxide,
band aids
yardage goods
blankets (wool)
Non electric machinery
10 gal. Olive Oil
50 lbs. salt
fire wood
water filter
matches
kerosene
candles
etc.
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dont forget applecider venigar is a natural wound cleaner and gargle half and half to rid sore throats . pour it on q- tip to wipe out ear canals to prevent ear infections and ear aches from shampooing of hair..rewipe ear canel with extra "q-tips afterward ...........meanwhile drink in cup of warm water 1 Tablespoon of applecider venigar and 1 tablespoon of honey mixed up together to rid muscle and arthritic pain within half a hour...twice daily after meals if possible for best results. also again at bedtime if you begin to feel achy because it works better than pills...healthier for you also...or even if you wake up at night with arthritis or muscle pains..it is much safer than a regiment of pills..works good and you do not build up resistance to it as one does with pain pills.
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What about the way to store this food?

What do you suggest?
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See thread with this title:
Food Plan For Immediate Action


Food Plan For Immediate Action


Concerned about what might happen to you and your family/loved ones if the system collapses? You Ought To Be!

Got food? Longterm foodstuffs that will last and enable a good variety of basic meals? This thread will discuss just that. What you can buy/acquire now that will see you through.

First, got basic cooking tools, some cookbooks? You can find this stuff at almost any THRIFT or RESALE. If money is a concern, and why wouldn't it be; try checking some of these places out to get basic gear you might need. You want STAINLESS STEEL cook pots, quality knives without serrated edges for easy sharpening. Lots of spoons in all sizes. Grain and Meat grinders, pepper mills all sorts of gear to enable you to process your food including raw meat.

What do you need for the basics in food?
I endorse ORGANIC foodstuffs because they can improve your immune system and general health. Eating is our main activity to promote health and well-being. The life is the blood; very true. Build good blood and your body is fit and able to weather the storm. Eat poorly and you will feel poorly and likely be sick more often.

Salt and other basic seasonings are important. You want to be able to make basic foods palateable or adapt them to have variety. Garlic is a great food to ward off illness. Onions the same way. Raw Garlic and dried onion bits are defnite musts. Store raw onions in a cool dark place. They'll last several months easy or dehydrate them now for longterm storage.

Basic foods store the best.
Hard Red Winter Wheat offers the highest protein count of any wheat variety. Makes the most nutritious breads. For pastries or cakes, you want some lighter flour. Golden or White Wheat works for those purposes. All can be found in your typical grocery-chain bulk dept or your healthfood store. A few 2lb bags of Fleischman or Red Star yeast, lasts forever and very cheap, enables you to bake. You will need a grain mill to turn wheatberries into flour. Ready milled flour will store for months, so buy some of that now for immediate use; but you want Wheatberries/raw wheat for storage. Gotta have that grain mill to get much use of your raw wheat. Probably about 300lbs is enough for a family of 4 for a year. Maybe less if you store a wide variety of other basic foods.

Short-Grain Brown Rice is a huge component in the global diet. Goes with everything and is a superfood. Combine with some canned beans or your favourite bean recipe and you get a Complete Protein. About 200 lbs for a family of 4 will last a year.

Rolled Oats. Can't beat oatmeal and granola for basic breakfast or wholesome snack foods. Make your own granola.

Beans. Very high protein source. Good with a small amount of meat for flavoring. Sausage works very well. Black beans, Small Red Beans, Navy Beans for soups, Pinto Beans for mexican, Garbanzo Beans for Mid-East. Then you have Peas and Lentils. Look for a Macrobiotic cookbook at your library. Lots of ideas in there for basic bean recipes. Red Beans and Rice: YUM>! Think about variety. Anasazi beans and Adzuki beans have great flavor. Black, Navy, Pinto and maybe Kidney beans are most common to recipes. Buy a variety and have at least 100lbs to choose from.

Honey, better than sugar for sweetener. Molasses same way. Maple syrup pretty pricey, sugar for trading or baking. Honey lasts a LONG TIME. Maybe 40lbs for a family for a year? How much honey do you eat now?

Canned tomatoes are a mainstay. Can't really go wrong with any canned food, especially if you can find organics. You might find that Muir Glen org tomato products are as cheap as Hunts or DelMonte. Crushed or whole tomatoes are basis for much pasta or chili type caseroles, spaghettis, and ragouts. Tomato paste is great for thickener. Some come with Basil already included.

Butter is great, stores well. Olive Oil better for you, also stores well. Extra virgin for salads, reg olive oil for cooking/browning. Also endorse Mazola corn oil. Popcorn is a creature comfort food. Kosher salt, grind it yourself for use on your popcorn. If you like fried food, try soybean oil. Keep a can of Crisco for greasing your baking vessels.

Pastas of any kind store well. Spaghetti works for soup and many dishes besides the obvious. Egg noodles also for soup like homemade chicken noodle. Macaroni also for caseroles.

Canned meats like Spam, Dinty Moore stews, canned chicken, tuna, and turkey, devilled ham, vienna sausage; about anything canned is already cooked and edible out of the can. Crackers and Pilot Bread, tortillas are decent storable breads.
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it's hard for me not to think that these food suggestions aren't just shopping lists for the troops that will eventually kick in my door, beat the hell out of me for hoarding supplies, and then confiscate everything of value in the house. Leaving me for dead.



But that's just me...





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