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Homosexual U.K. Documentarian Says Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of Casual Degrading Sex, Drug Abuse and Misery

 
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By Hilary White

LONDON, September 10, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got."

Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex."

In his documentary Fanshawe admits that the homosexualist movement has in the main achieved its political goals of equalising homosexuality with natural sexual relations, in abolishing laws against sodomy and creating legal equivalency with marriage and adoption. Given these achievements, Fanshawe asks, "Why do we seem hell bent on behaving like eternal teenagers?"

"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens."

He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young."

"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack."

Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."

"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm."

The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?"

For objecting to the lifestyle of pursuing casual and "extreme" sex and for holding genuine human intimacy as a goal, Paul told Fanshawe that he is "the closest thing to a straight person in a gay man's body I have ever met. There should be an operation for you, dear."

Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent.

"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states.

At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.
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It is good that the 'gay community' is looking and examining the self.

However, the writer of the article is good at looking at the core issues but does not even touch on the root causes of the unhappiness. Drinks and drugs are an escape from the self and the unhappiness within. Seeking happiness from outside of the self instead of within.

"Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

This comment can apply to 85% of humanity. 85% of humanity are in emotional chaos, 85% of humanity have not matured emotionally or spiritually.

Time for responsibility in more ways than one.

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Wow, Simon Fanshawe is so "not hot".
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Are you retarded? The title of the documentary is "The trouble with gay men". So obviously, he was looking for the worst and found it. I could make a documentary called "The trouble with straight men" and find the same shit. But we wouldn't want to assume that all straight men are like that.
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Are you retarded? The title of the documentary is "The trouble with gay men". So obviously, he was looking for the worst and found it. I could make a documentary called "The trouble with straight men" and find the same shit. But we wouldn't want to assume that all straight men are like that.
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Exactly.

Yep, the world is falling apart so it's time for the usual 'Blame gays/blame Jews/blame anyone but us' crap.

Cue the replies like: 'HEY - THE AUTHOR IS GAY, DUMBASS!!1!'
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The same could be said for the porn industry or even the whores in the US CONgress who pander for anyone with a big enough checkbook. Or with religion that seems to legitimize child abuse (Islam, Judaism)or that is so repressive that not a month goes by that some pastor/priest is caught doing something evil or perverse.
Extremes exist in all segments of society. The in your face gays are just as bad as in your face religious idiots who are for the most part psychopathic. Politicians are the worst of the lot for they continually lie to the people they are sworn to serve and criminally enrich themselves via insider trading/knowledge while screwing over the masses.
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The same could be said for the porn industry or even the whores in the US CONgress who pander for anyone with a big enough checkbook. Or with religion that seems to legitimize child abuse (Islam, Judaism)or that is so repressive that not a month goes by that some pastor/priest is caught doing something evil or perverse.
Extremes exist in all segments of society. The in your face gays are just as bad as in your face religious idiots who are for the most part psychopathic. Politicians are the worst of the lot for they continually lie to the people they are sworn to serve and criminally enrich themselves via insider trading/knowledge while screwing over the masses.
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Yep, the world is falling apart so it's time for the usual 'Blame gays/blame Jews/blame anyone but us' crap.

Cue the replies like: 'HEY - THE AUTHOR IS GAY, DUMBASS!!1!'
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Why is it men continually deal with the effect and not the cause? The vine and not the root?

Cut off a vine and the root will grow a new one. The root must be dealt with...

A root is within each and everyone of us... It is sin....

Sin has many forms...

Man can examine his own heart and know he has sin. God not only tells us of it, its history, and its consequences (it is written within the heart of each man) - but he provides us an escape by turning from ourselves and our own lusts and turning to him with our whole heart and asking for him to help cleanse us from our wicked ways....

To restore in us a clean root. That will grow clean vines.

Sadly, men refuse the invitation from God because they Love their sin more then their own soul and their creator.

Sin (in all its forms) is destroying man. And the vine is reaching full bloom.

Our LORD is patient and merciful, but he will not allow sin to manifest without limit. He has appointed times and fullness of time.

He will cleanse his garden, one way or another.

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Are you retarded? The title of the documentary is "The trouble with gay men". So obviously, he was looking for the worst and found it. I could make a documentary called "The trouble with straight men" and find the same shit. But we wouldn't want to assume that all straight men are like that.
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Are YOU retarded? Gays refuse to accept there is anything wrong with them at all. To show how utterly fucked up and self-destructive their culture is, is a landmark study. Everyone loves to dump on straights, every human foible that everyone else is also guilty of has been raised to the level of a hate crime when it's found in straights. But gays? Oh no, they're enlightened.

The difference between how the two groups are treated is night and day. To expose the gay ligestyle for it's filth is an absolutely extraordinary act of courage, given the utterly punishing, vindictive and hypocritical vengeance gays have towards anyone who dares criticize them.

And your disdain and completely lack of acknowledgement of this gross difference between how the two groups are treated, illustrates this hypocrisy and cruelty perfectly.
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In the controversial spirit of the article, I'll share a thought that was shared with me by a friend's mom in college. I went to a women's college and it was quite common for straight women to decide that they were gay. This was the case with my friend. We went to her house for one of our breaks and she had 'come out' to her mom during that trip. Her mom was not happy about it and when I asked her why that was the case she said it was because she thought homosexuality was an extreme form of narcissism.

I still am not sure what I think of that idea, but it really has stuck with me since then. If you look at the negative behaviors that the author is discussing in his article, there really is some overlap with narcissistic personality disorder, especially in the complications it causes.

On the other hand, I have known plenty of gay men and women who do not engage in the behaviors described in the article, so it doesn't seem right for the author to generalize them so broadly. That said, I would wonder if there is a correlation between NPD and the types of homosexual men who do engage in the behaviors in the article. I would even wonder if that would extend to straight men that behave in the same types of behaviors as well.
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Homosexuality in men is disgusting and non-biblical. Since I don't particularly pay attention to the bibble, I'll just leave it as disgusting.
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"The Gay Lifestyle" is similar to "The Singles Bar Scene."

If you're into having lots and lots of casual sex without commitment or hardly even getting to know your partners, then the homo and hetero "dating" scenes are similar.

HOWEVER, if you want your sexuality to be an expression of true affection in a deeper and committed way, then you can do that too, with a partner of the same sex or the opposite, as you prefer. This is a completely different thing and can be found among both homosexuals and heterosexuals. It's just a lifestyle choice.
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"The Gay Lifestyle" is similar to "The Singles Bar Scene."

If you're into having lots and lots of casual sex without commitment or hardly even getting to know your partners, then the homo and hetero "dating" scenes are similar.

HOWEVER, if you want your sexuality to be an expression of true affection in a deeper and committed way, then you can do that too, with a partner of the same sex or the opposite, as you prefer. This is a completely different thing and can be found among both homosexuals and heterosexuals. It's just a lifestyle choice.
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If a man need to be with another hairy, ass-scratchin', nose pickin' man... the last thing on his mind will be "true affection".


Get real.
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"The Gay Lifestyle" is similar to "The Singles Bar Scene."

If you're into having lots and lots of casual sex without commitment or hardly even getting to know your partners, then the homo and hetero "dating" scenes are similar.

HOWEVER, if you want your sexuality to be an expression of true affection in a deeper and committed way, then you can do that too, with a partner of the same sex or the opposite, as you prefer. This is a completely different thing and can be found among both homosexuals and heterosexuals. It's just a lifestyle choice.
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Bingo. Lots of gay people I know are in long-term monogamous relationships, and I know plenty of straight people who are wantonly promiscuous.
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Go and research every ancient civilization that was destroyed. All had two things in common:

Worship of sex
Worship of the serpent.

God tells us point blank "there is nothing new under the sun".
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Are you retarded? The title of the documentary is "The trouble with gay men". So obviously, he was looking for the worst and found it. I could make a documentary called "The trouble with straight men" and find the same shit. But we wouldn't want to assume that all straight men are like that.
 Quoting: Poe



Exactly.

Yep, the world is falling apart so it's time for the usual 'Blame gays/blame jewish people/blame anyone but us' crap.

Cue the replies like: 'HEY - THE AUTHOR IS GAY, DUMBASS!!1!'
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He might be a homo, but he doesn't seem very "gay" to me.

I bet you don't even know that the word 'gay' used to mean something else, do you.
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"The Gay Lifestyle" is similar to "The Singles Bar Scene."

If you're into having lots and lots of casual sex without commitment or hardly even getting to know your partners, then the homo and hetero "dating" scenes are similar.

HOWEVER, if you want your sexuality to be an expression of true affection in a deeper and committed way, then you can do that too, with a partner of the same sex or the opposite, as you prefer. This is a completely different thing and can be found among both homosexuals and heterosexuals. It's just a lifestyle choice.
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Bingo. Lots of gay people I know are in long-term monogamous relationships, and I know plenty of straight people who are wantonly promiscuous.
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Every gay person I've ever known fit the "profile" this journalist exposes. I'm so sick of hearing about all of these gay people in long-term monogamous relationships. They don't exist in my experience and the homosexual push to change the meaning of what a marriage is has very little to do with their reality and everything to do with perverting and tarnishing something many people hold sacred.
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By Hilary White

LONDON, September 10, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got."

Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex."

In his documentary Fanshawe admits that the homosexualist movement has in the main achieved its political goals of equalising homosexuality with natural sexual relations, in abolishing laws against sodomy and creating legal equivalency with marriage and adoption. Given these achievements, Fanshawe asks, "Why do we seem hell bent on behaving like eternal teenagers?"

"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens."

He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young."

"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack."

Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."

"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm."

The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?"

For objecting to the lifestyle of pursuing casual and "extreme" sex and for holding genuine human intimacy as a goal, Paul told Fanshawe that he is "the closest thing to a straight person in a gay man's body I have ever met. There should be an operation for you, dear."

Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent.

"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states.

At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.
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this was very well written and i agree with it. the homosexual lifestyle is extra and it seems as if people are hiding behind the veil of their sexuality to abuse drugs and each other, as if they have a right to the excess because they have come out of the closet. it is a destructive reward system that is clearly present in the gay community.
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No such thing as a gay lifestyle. Drugs, sex, and alcohol are apart of the human condition / gay or straight. Get real.
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"The Gay Lifestyle" is similar to "The Singles Bar Scene."

If you're into having lots and lots of casual sex without commitment or hardly even getting to know your partners, then the homo and hetero "dating" scenes are similar.

HOWEVER, if you want your sexuality to be an expression of true affection in a deeper and committed way, then you can do that too, with a partner of the same sex or the opposite, as you prefer. This is a completely different thing and can be found among both homosexuals and heterosexuals. It's just a lifestyle choice.
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Bingo. Lots of gay people I know are in long-term monogamous relationships, and I know plenty of straight people who are wantonly promiscuous.
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Every gay person I've ever known fit the "profile" this journalist exposes. I'm so sick of hearing about all of these gay people in long-term monogamous relationships. They don't exist in my experience and the homosexual push to change the meaning of what a marriage is has very little to do with their reality and everything to do with perverting and tarnishing something many people hold sacred.
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How many gays do you know because I can assure you the amount of gays you know is an illogical basis for an assumption of a whole group of people.

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