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Palin Claimed Dinosaurs And People Coexisted

 
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New human fossil find adds millennia to China's history
www.chinaview.cn 2007-11-13 19:01:42

BEIJING, Nov. 13 (Xinhua) -- Chinese archaeologists said they have found fossilized remains of a primitive human species that lived about 2.04 million years ago in the Three Gorges Area in southwest China, the earliest ever found in the country.

The findings, including a lower jawbone fragment, an incisor and more than 230 pieces of stone tools, prove that what is called Wushan man was more than 300,000 years older than Yuanmou man, which was discovered in southwestern Yunnan Province in the 1960s and previously recognized as China's earliest human species.

An expert team led by Huang Wanbo, a professor with the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, reached the conclusion after more than two decades of excavation at the Longgupo Site in Wushan County in Chongqing Municipality.

"It's an exciting discovery because it may rewrite China's history," said Huang.

Huang said his team unearthed the human fossils during their first excavation, from 1985 to 1988. In the same stratigraphic interval, they also discovered fossils of 120 species of vertebrates, including 116 mammals, and a large number of stone artifacts.

"Various dating techniques corroborate the geological layer containing Wushan Man fossils being as old as 2 million to 2.04 million years, but we think we need more evidence," said Huang.

Huang's team conducted two excavations from 1997 to 1999 and from 2003 to 2006 at the Longgupo Site with partners from Britain, Canada and France.

They found more stone tools and animal fossils dating back 2 million years in the same stratigraphic interval in which Wushan Man fossils were found before, and also in the upper layers.

"The most important findings are the many leg fossils of animals, such as the elephant, rhinoceros and deer fossils we found in an area of no more than two square meters," said Huang.

"It is not natural that the fossils, all legs, were arranged in layers in such a small space. Only an animal with thinking capacity could do it in that way," he said.

The Three Gorges area was once an expanse of hilly land with luxuriant vegetation and a warm, humid climate in which various vertebrates and mammals lived and thrived.

"It was just in such a natural environment that Wushan Man led a primitive life by hunting and gathering. When night fell, the inhabitants returned to the Longgupo Cave, enjoying the fruits of their day's labor," said Huang.

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i dunno what mccain was thinking to pick her as his vp. He had to of been forced into it
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"I am using THE reference: the bible."

No offence, but the bible is not a definitive reference by any means, never mind "THE".. you are entitled to your opinion though, of course.
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Dont understand what you mean? Why isn,t it?? Phil
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How do you know they didn't coexist?

Were you there?

Were your science teachers there?


You ridicule other people for being sheeple.....believing what people tell you....yet you do the same. 5a











I smell a hypocrite!! 5a
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Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.


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She is saying that dinosaurs and humans co-existed because they did. It's the truth.

God made the whole earth 6000 years ago.

Photos of tracks here
[link to www.bible.ca]

The story we have all heard from movies, television, newspapers, and most magazines and textbooks is that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs ‘ruled the Earth’ for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), Scientists only find the bones in the here and now, and because many of them are evolutionists, they try to fit the story of the dinosaurs into their view.

Evolutionists claim that dinosaurs evolved over millions of years. They imagine that one kind of animal slowly changed over long periods of time to become a different kind of animal. For instance, they believe that amphibians changed into reptiles (including dinosaurs) by this gradual process. This would mean, of course, that there would have been millions of creatures during that time that would be ‘in between,’ as amphibians evolved into reptiles. Evidence of these ‘transitional forms,’ as they are called, should be abundant. However, they are not.

Much other evidence for Palin's belief (and mine) that dinosaurs and people lived together. Palin is right.

Let the wacko bashing begin. <duck!>
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts


Because you can prove the tracks were made at the same time. Right? Right?

...

Religion for the win.
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You are right, I do believe the bible to be 100% true.

You see, I was one of them just a couple of years ago. I remember what it was like on the other side, believing that the evangelicals are all nutcases with no brains.

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The core of your beliefs are lies
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Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.


[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

She is saying that dinosaurs and humans co-existed because they did. It's the truth.

God made the whole earth 6000 years ago.
There is nowhere in the Bible that says the Earth was made 6000 year ago. If you can read 2nd peter which is about all the ages, there are three. The one that was, dinasours, in which all fosils and remains link to, this age and the one to come. You can get you a bull dozer and dig up layers of time beyond the dinasoun. But hwen man gets between Gen1 and 2 he will be lost. This is because this earth was created billions of years ago. read Jerimiah and think, No Man. It will never be destroyed either. Isiah 45-18 a world without end. We will reign with him a thousand years and then all will be turned over to God, or the Godhead.

Photos of tracks here
[link to www.bible.ca]

The story we have all heard from movies, television, newspapers, and most magazines and textbooks is that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs ‘ruled the Earth’ for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), Scientists only find the bones in the here and now, and because many of them are evolutionists, they try to fit the story of the dinosaurs into their view.

Evolutionists claim that dinosaurs evolved over millions of years. They imagine that one kind of animal slowly changed over long periods of time to become a different kind of animal. For instance, they believe that amphibians changed into reptiles (including dinosaurs) by this gradual process. This would mean, of course, that there would have been millions of creatures during that time that would be ‘in between,’ as amphibians evolved into reptiles. Evidence of these ‘transitional forms,’ as they are called, should be abundant. However, they are not.

Much other evidence for Palin's belief (and mine) that dinosaurs and people lived together. Palin is right.

Let the wacko bashing begin. <duck!>


Because you can prove the tracks were made at the same time. Right? Right?

...

Religion for the win.
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How do you know they didn't coexist?

Were you there?

Were your science teachers there?


You ridicule other people for being sheeple.....believing what people tell you....yet you do the same. 5a


NO NO The Bible told me so. God says so.








I smell a hypocrite!! 5a
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What I'd like to see is how they can determine the age of sedimentary rock without the use of index fossils. The vertical geologic column is the evolutionist's touchstone.
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one can use such depositions as volcanic ash, pumice, or other obvious volcanic ejecta, that forms a large enough band over a great enough area, that it kind of gives a calendaric "smoking gun".... one can also use non fossil organic depositions, organic "runoff"(topsoil and such that have a heavy organic content).....though, i will admit, alot of geologies dating is a "leap of faith".....one can also make an argument for "relative age" of deposited matrix, that a matrix with a highly similar radiological date as one that actually contains "smoking gun" material, is of a similar age.....
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"I am using THE reference: the bible."

No offence, but the bible is not a definitive reference by any means, never mind "THE".. you are entitled to your opinion though, of course.

Dont understand what you mean? Why isn,t it?? Phil
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Why isn't the bible the definitive reference; do I really have to elaborate on what I mean by that?

'THE' denotes "The one and only", and in this case, 'definitive reference'. Which the bible quite clearly is not.. I think you must surely be speaking from a particular stance; ie- a [your] personal belief. Which by definition, is peculiar to you and others who share the same view.

So, remind me please.. the bible is "THE definitive reference" in/to what?
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one can use such depositions as volcanic ash, pumice, or other obvious volcanic ejecta, that forms a large enough band over a great enough area, that it kind of gives a calendaric "smoking gun".... one can also use non fossil organic depositions, organic "runoff"(topsoil and such that have a heavy organic content).....though, i will admit, alot of geologies dating is a "leap of faith".....one can also make an argument for "relative age" of deposited matrix, that a matrix with a highly similar radiological date as one that actually contains "smoking gun" material, is of a similar age.....
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Pretty much the conclusion I've come to. The Earth may be eons old, but I don't think life is.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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The number of pinheads on this thread is frightening. Tear your lips from being superglued to religion's ass for a change.
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god is fake! yippie go back into your huts!

E V O L U T I O N

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Pretty much the conclusion I've come to. The Earth may be eons old, but I don't think life is.
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well, one has to take the radiological dating of organic material at face value....it is a well enough proven phenomena.... if a "silt layer" in a matrix of sandstone comes out at a fixed era of time, you can pretty much take that to the bank....one can also use the sudden deposition of a layer of volcanic ejecta(such as pumice, or ash) within a layer of sandstone as a genuine "date"....there are also sedimentaries that are composed entirely of silt, which can be very acurately dated(all this is geological accuracy, of course, we're talking variables of a few thousand years, not "june 14th, 14 million bc")now, when one gets to comparitive dating by the similarity of the age of the sand making up a matrix, well, that is alot less accurate... but, my fellow intrepid scientist, i think we have to part company past those conclusions....i guess our "leaps of faith" are divergent.....lol
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Dinosaurs claim Palin and her Brain Coexisted
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it's true!

i saw it on the Land of the Lost.

did she mention the sleestacks?
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Pretty much the conclusion I've come to. The Earth may be eons old, but I don't think life is.

well, one has to take the radiological dating of organic material at face value....it is a well enough proven phenomena.... if a "silt layer" in a matrix of sandstone comes out at a fixed era of time, you can pretty much take that to the bank....one can also use the sudden deposition of a layer of volcanic ejecta(such as pumice, or ash) within a layer of sandstone as a genuine "date"....there are also sedimentaries that are composed entirely of silt, which can be very acurately dated(all this is geological accuracy, of course, we're talking variables of a few thousand years, not "june 14th, 14 million bc")now, when one gets to comparitive dating by the similarity of the age of the sand making up a matrix, well, that is alot less accurate... but, my fellow intrepid scientist, i think we have to part company past those conclusions....i guess our "leaps of faith" are divergent.....lol
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Wow! You just gained +50 respect! There are very few people who just accept that some things are a matter of belief. A truly open mind...but not so open the brain falls out. Thank you.
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Scientists only trace back written human history for 6000 years.

I just don't see how it's so unreasonable that life itself doesn't go back further than that.
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Scientists only trace back written human history for 6000 years.

I just don't see how it's so unreasonable that life itself doesn't go back further than that.

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Yeah right, i dont know what your idea's about scientists are, but among lingualists, you also have geologists, physics, paleontologists, astronomists and biologists.. to name a few

As if written history is equal to 'life'...

Get a grip.
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Wow! You just gained +50 respect! There are very few people who just accept that some things are a matter of belief. A truly open mind...but not so open the brain falls out. Thank you.
 Quoting: The Guy

i've never been one to accept something as fact, just because of the popular opinion that it is....im a "show me why" kind of guy....i can also respect that others will come to different conclusions from the "evidence as we know it".... i will call those that claim ms palin is correct fools, just because so much evidence does point towards entirely different conclusions.... however, i cant say that the entire premise of the current model of the dating of lifes origins is completely un-flawed either.....there is plenty of "fudge factor" that is open to interperatation.... so, i cling to what i feel is the most logical, soundest theory that ive been exposed to...., on the other hand, if someone wants to cleave unto another reasonable theory, that can make some form of sense when viewed in light of the evidence, im happy enough to "agree to disagree"...... maybe one day, enough evidence will be presented to show that one camp or another is entirely right, but im not one to quibble about a few million years, when it really makes little difference in the price of bread at the supermarket......
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proof that people were around earlier than 600 years ago


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