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Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans Ahead

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Anonymous Coward
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10/1/2008 4:23 AM
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Some intel types are beginning to express concerns that the Israelis might do something completely crazy to get the U.S. involved. There are a number of possible “false flag” scenarios in which the Israelis could stage an incident that they will make to look Iranian, either by employing Iranian weapons or by leaving a communications footprint that points to Teheran’s involvement. Those who argue Israel would never do such a thing should think again. Israel is willing to behave with complete ruthlessness towards the U.S. if they feel that the stakes are high enough. Witness the attack on the USS Liberty and the bombing of the U.S. Consulate in Alexandria in the 1950s. If they now believe that Iran is a threat that must be eliminated it is not implausible to assume they will stop at nothing to get the United States to do it for them, particularly as their air force is only able to damage the Iranian nuclear program, not destroy it.

BEWARE ISRAEL. She reviles the US.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 4:40 AM
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This is the response of our Israeli propagandist:


lala
Rota
User ID: 514072
10/1/2008 4:47 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

I think our economic problems are a direct response for our failure to attack Iran. No ammount of economic relief is worth starting WW111 for.

.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 422489
10/1/2008 4:50 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

So many plans they have made have failed, the writting is on the wall for anything else.
-=LaZe=- Subscriber
=-FeArLeSs-=
User ID: 314849
10/1/2008 4:52 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

So many plans they have made have failed, the writting is on the wall for anything else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422489

and this one will fail like the rest.
LaZe

A chance is not something your given,
its something you must seize
tachik0ma
User ID: 514726
10/1/2008 4:56 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

ok, just tell them to send a different team to document the event this time.
anonymous
User ID: 514645
10/1/2008 5:07 AM
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[link to www.phxnews.com]

Some intel types are beginning to express concerns that the Israelis might do something completely crazy to get the U.S. involved. There are a number of possible “false flag” scenarios in which the Israelis could stage an incident that they will make to look Iranian, either by employing Iranian weapons or by leaving a communications footprint that points to Teheran’s involvement. Those who argue Israel would never do such a thing should think again. Israel is willing to behave with complete ruthlessness towards the U.S. if they feel that the stakes are high enough. Witness the attack on the USS Liberty and the bombing of the U.S. Consulate in Alexandria in the 1950s. If they now believe that Iran is a threat that must be eliminated it is not implausible to assume they will stop at nothing to get the United States to do it for them, particularly as their air force is only able to damage the Iranian nuclear program, not destroy it.

BEWARE ISRAEL. She reviles the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737

moron.Tiny 26 mile long Israel is surrunded by jihadi warfaring muslims...Russia put a complete Warship Armada on syria shores..ask your self,, why?....Hizbullah with Iran support has ranged C-208 anti warship anti aircraft Missies on Lebanons highest mountain peaks, aimed at Israel. Ask yourself why?..Irans hand is in terror militia support all over those areas to gain regional leadership.Russia supplies arms ..ask your self... why?
89446
User ID: 464964
10/1/2008 5:08 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Other threads started by the wacky OP:

Israel: Supplied Arms to Iran. They Helped Terrorists.
4:31 AM 10/01/08

Israel's Attacks on the World Exposed
4:28 AM 10/01/08

Evidence Suggests: Israel Helps Hijack Planes!
4:26 AM 10/01/08

Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans Ahead
4:23 AM 10/01/08

US Should Not Trust Israel Until It Admits Its War Crimes
4:21 AM 10/01/08

5 threads in 10 minutes, all about Israel.

You might want to check your blood pressure, Ahmed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 5:17 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Humans are smaller than elephants, so I guess elephants are real threats?!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 5:18 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Other threads started by the wacky OP:

Israel: Supplied Arms to Iran. They Helped Terrorists.
4:31 AM 10/01/08

Israel's Attacks on the World Exposed
4:28 AM 10/01/08

Evidence Suggests: Israel Helps Hijack Planes!
4:26 AM 10/01/08

Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans Ahead
4:23 AM 10/01/08

US Should Not Trust Israel Until It Admits Its War Crimes
4:21 AM 10/01/08

5 threads in 10 minutes, all about Israel.

You might want to check your blood pressure, Ahmed.
 Quoting: 89446

Can't take the truth, can you?

lala
89446
User ID: 464964
10/1/2008 5:35 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Can't take the truth, can you?

lala
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


Not from a hyperventilating propagandist starting 5 threads in 10 minutes.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 5:36 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Ad hominems don't do any good.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514697
10/1/2008 6:33 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Can't take the truth, can you?

lala


Not from a hyperventilating propagandist starting 5 threads in 10 minutes.
 Quoting: 89446


Can you point out, to those not in the know, what is propaganda?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/1/2008 6:37 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Wouldn't make them any different from American and Britain, now, would it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514732
10/1/2008 6:38 AM
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definitely right
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/1/2008 6:51 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

definitely right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514732



Well.......it seems that the OP has a fixation against Israel....blaming Israel for everything....while ignoring both American and British involvement in such things.

And does the OP think, maybe, that the muslims are innocent? And that all suicide/terrorist attacks are not really perpetrated by muslim extremists, but directly by Israeli secret police, or their minions?

Just wondering...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 6:55 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

definitely right



Well.......it seems that the OP has a fixation against Israel....blaming Israel for everything....while ignoring both American and British involvement in such things.

And does the OP think, maybe, that the muslims are innocent? And that all suicide/terrorist attacks are not really perpetrated by muslim extremists, but directly by Israeli secret police, or their minions?

Just wondering...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275333



Your logic is invalid. First, you argue from silence. I was interested in pointing out the Israeli connection to the state of things. Of course the US and the UK are both complicit, however, it is also clear, they didn't attack the USS Liberty, the Israelis did, and something needs to be used to explain why nothing is done (the US constantly bows to the desire of Israel, why is it?)

And who said all Jews are guilty? Or all Muslims are innocent? On the other hand, it is like the genocide against the Native Americans in the US. The US attacks, the Indians react, and the reaction is used to prove the genocide is fine. Nor were the brutal responses against it justified. But one can see who has the control of the situation and who has ultimate blame.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 7:00 AM
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BTW, welcome " 275333" aka poster of "Islam is the True Enemy" post.

Nice to see you still care. When Israel is shown to be an enemy.

NOT.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/1/2008 7:05 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

BTW, welcome " 275333" aka poster of "Islam is the True Enemy" post.

Nice to see you still care. When Israel is shown to be an enemy.

NOT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


Islam is more of an enemy than Israel, in my view.


Did you read the whole thread?

Israel is our ally.....Islamic nations are not.

You've got to deal with the threat as it presents itself. If your house was being burgled, you would probably shoot the offender who was perpetrating the crime at that moment, would you not?.......and wonder about who, maybe sent him, later on.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514786
10/1/2008 7:09 AM
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What are you going to do when you have a muslim president (Obama), and then you will see the muslim nations turning on America, with Obama covertly backing his real family: the muslims.
That is the future for America.
You may want to badmouth israel now, but very soon America will be in the position that Israel is in now.... that is, with all the arab nations turning against you and wanting to nuke you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514719
10/1/2008 7:11 AM
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Bulgarian Psychic Vangelia Gushterova says Third World War in 2010

The Bulgarian Psychic Vangelia Gushterova has already seen many events ahead. Now she predicts us the Third World War. And, although they have already been twelve years is dead.

The Bulgarian Psychic Vangelia Gushterova has been much anticipated: The Second World War, the terrorist attacks of September 2001, the death of Lady Di, the sinking of the Kursk.

Gushterova that of the Third World now predicts global war, although she is dead since 1996, has nothing to do with supernatural: According oe24.at have all their employees predict the blind Visionary down.

Third World come 2010
According to this list is the next big "event", the stands before us, the Third World War. The Bulgarian, affectionately known as Vanga, even knew how far it will come: According to the Slovenian Internet portal 24ur.com breaks the Third World 2010 assassination attempts on three men as well as government struggles in India.

80-percent hit rate
A study of 7,000 predictions Vangas by a Bulgarian Institute showed the early 1970s that the Psychic in 80 percent of the cases had legal. Shortly before her death said she assumes that the Earth still many phases of experiencing restlessness and that the balance of the planet only be restored if extraterrestrials compound the people in contact träten.

When this would be the case, she also knew: Vanga was convinced that humanity within the next 200 years contact to be producing advice. Some of the aliens were already several years on earth live.

Vanelia Gushterova
was born in 1911 in Bulgaria and blind at the age of twelve years. They said that in contact with creatures invisible to stand, it through space and time sent. They regularly looked for Bulgarian politicians in the future. In the Vanga population enjoyed great prestige. Hundreds of Bulgarians as well as tourists daily pilgrimage to her house.

[link to translate.google.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275333
10/1/2008 7:12 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

What are you going to do when you have a muslim president (Obama), and then you will see the muslim nations turning on America, with Obama covertly backing his real family: the muslims.
That is the future for America.
You may want to badmouth israel now, but very soon America will be in the position that Israel is in now.... that is, with all the arab nations turning against you and wanting to nuke you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514786


Quite right.


I'm thankful that I'm not the only one who can see this. hf
89446
User ID: 464964
10/1/2008 7:39 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Ad hominems don't do any good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


Really? Is that why your second post in the thread was a pre-emptive ad hominem against all those that would disagree with you on this thread?

Now you like it now you don't. Now you use, now you don't like others using it. Grow up dude, your game is shallow.
Bao2
User ID: 511796
10/1/2008 7:42 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

This is the response of our Israeli propagandist:


lala
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


You mean Gaia?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 7:47 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

This is the response of our Israeli propagandist:


lala


You mean Gaia?
 Quoting: Bao2 511796



I'm not naming names. But people are not blind.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 7:51 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Israel is our ally.....Islamic nations are not.

You've got to deal with the threat as it presents itself. If your house was being burgled, you would probably shoot the offender who was perpetrating the crime at that moment, would you not?.......and wonder about who, maybe sent him, later on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275333


Israel is not our ally. The only people Israel cares about are a select group of Jews within the state; everyone else is cannon fodder. Look to how the Zionists said the death of the Jews at the Holocaust was necessary to get their goals established. The cruel truth is that Israel (not Jews, mind you, but Zionists) is the real threat to world existence; they don't give a damn who they destroy.

Islam is many, many, many, many tradition. Most are peaceful. I've studied Islam under an Ayatollah. I've read through many other traditions. I know the good and the bad. The desperate flights of destruction you find coming from Muslim lands is not tied to Islam except by an accident, just like American genocide of the Indians -- people used Christianity to justify it, but really, it was a political and social reality using an exterior justification.
unite nations
User ID: 514821
10/1/2008 8:35 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

What are you going to do when you have a muslim president (Obama), and then you will see the muslim nations turning on America, with Obama covertly backing his real family: the muslims.
That is the future for America.
You may want to badmouth israel now, but very soon America will be in the position that Israel is in now.... that is, with all the arab nations turning against you and wanting to nuke you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514786

I am from Australia and I didn't know that Obama is Muslim.
I don't think he will have to be covert in his attempt to have an Islamic influence on the people if it is the case. The President of the USA has great power. However, the power has only ever been used to keep things ticking rather than make real decisions.
Real decisions are made by you and I. The people living in the democracy. We decide who makes the rules and we decide the fairness of trade. This is our role.
Regardless of the outcome of any democratic process. The will of the people will always triumph.
I lived in Linzi, shandong province in china, for about a year and discovered a population that was about 80% atheist, 10% christian and 10% muslim. This community is thousands of years old and peaceful. The Muslim restaurant is revered as a house of beef. The Christians approach you in the street and offer company for prayer and discussion.
"This is just like home," was my impression.
The local government in china are democratically appointed and nominated based on skills and experience.
The Chinese are strong supporters of Iran through trade.

Israel is one of many fundamentalist nations getting itself all twisted into knots now that it has wiped out all it's oppressors. It will make the transition from protection mode to leadership mode soon. I don't mean control, more leading in technology sharing and world growth. Israel is light years ahead in dryland agriculture and the timing couldn't have been better.
johniselsewhere@yahoo.com.au
89446
User ID: 464964
10/1/2008 8:42 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Israel is not our ally.

I've studied Islam under an Ayatollah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


I'm sure your studies have something to do with your current political views.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 8:45 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Israel is not our ally.

I've studied Islam under an Ayatollah.


I'm sure your studies have something to do with your current political views.
 Quoting: 89446



I've studied it enough to know the diversity in Islam and that a lot of the propaganda people spread about it is from Orientalism, not Islam itself.

But I doubt you know my political views. I very much doubt it.
Grizzled Old Goat Subscriber
Get off my land..
User ID: 514819
10/1/2008 8:47 AM
Re: Evidence Suggest Israeli False Flag Plans AheadQuote

Israel is our ally.....Islamic nations are not.

You've got to deal with the threat as it presents itself. If your house was being burgled, you would probably shoot the offender who was perpetrating the crime at that moment, would you not?.......and wonder about who, maybe sent him, later on.


Israel is not our ally. The only people Israel cares about are a select group of Jews within the state; everyone else is cannon fodder. Look to how the Zionists said the death of the Jews at the Holocaust was necessary to get their goals established. The cruel truth is that Israel (not Jews, mind you, but Zionists) is the real threat to world existence; they don't give a damn who they destroy.

Islam is many, many, many, many tradition. Most are peaceful. I've studied Islam under an Ayatollah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514737


No kidding!

kh0me1n1

I kinda figured..

ollysven
I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

Ronald Reagan
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514737 (OP)
10/1/2008 8:49 AM
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Yes, for some people, it is better to read hystical lies against some other culture and tradition, to try to spread fear and hate, instead of learning what that culture and tradition itself actually says from within. It's far more difficult to make a war upon another based upon lies if you encourage people to learn about the other; it is easier to spread misinformation if you tell people not to read what the others have to say. And then if someone does, the best way to discredit them is to say "See, they are traitors" without actually doing anything to show you know what the hell you are talking about.

This is you:
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