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Women have caused all my problems
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502707
10/1/2008 7:18 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
But know this nasty truth: When a woman sleeps around it's because you are not her alpha male. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376706
Know this truth also, there's no need to sleep around, just end it....WALK!....then no one needs to get hurt.
I value honesty over faithfulness ANYDAY, and i make that perfectly clear to females at the beginning. |
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ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 7:20 AM
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I don't lie to people I care about. If you lie to my face I have nothing to do with you. Period. I don't accept liars.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride." |
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Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 7:23 AM
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I was 2 years old, and the abuse started around 3 years old when i first remember her swinging me around and letting me go into a wall narrowly missing a window, then she burnt me with a cigarette.
Maybe my story is so similar because i had 'abandonment' issues and rejected my foster mother who in turn battered me for that rejection, and then like a stitch running my life followed suit with all females there after....dunno maybe!?
Do you feel that YOU may carry on this cycle into new relationships as you get older?
I'll certainly try my hardest not to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502707
My assumption: You obviously know this cycle exists, and what you have done is Acknowledged (owned) this procces. There are 2 emotions in play at the same time..Trust and anger... I feel (and i dont know you at all) trust is the main issue here. Trust is at the forefront with anger close behind it. Trust i think is extremley fragile to you, and do totaly understand that.
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic |
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ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 7:25 AM
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You are in the USA i take it??.... here in England the "counsellor" is not a Psychiatrist. The counsellor here is more "solution focused" in his aproach. No meds. Meds are a mask... and another cupoard to "put you in". Talk.... with some one who listens and is 100% there with you... will do more than a 10000 tablets can ever hope to do. Quoting: Cynical Realist
Yep U.S. I meant psychiatrist. They don't prescribe meds. I refuse to believe that the way I am is somehow unnatural. It's a result of my upbringing and experiences. I'm talking to you all now and I don't have to pay anything LOL.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502707
10/1/2008 7:30 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
My assumption: You obviously know this cycle exists, and what you have done is Acknowledged (owned) this procces. There are 2 emotions in play at the same time..Trust and anger... I feel (and i dont know you at all) trust is the main issue here. Trust is at the forefront with anger close behind it. Trust i think is extremley fragile to you, and do totaly understand that. Quoting: Cynical Realist
Lol, you have got me there, here's a nail, here's a hammer, and you just hit it square on the head, those are definitely my issues, you are good ;)
I'm trying to deal with them, seeing and admitting to them is half the key to overcoming them, i'll get there one day i swear :) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 240980
10/1/2008 7:33 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
I read once where the head of the Harvard psych dept. said that in the final analysis the pain one feels from whatever trauma is from ones own pride being hurt.
I know of a guy who had his mother try to kill him at least three times when he was 3-5 years old, but was caught by the father and aunt in the nick of time. Needless to say it f'd him up with women in general.
These gals and guys that cheat and fall short of ones ideal have their own issues they're acting out on, most don't know why they do it, only that people do that which makes them feel good. Driven by their past, humans make the same miseries over and over,
One needs to come off their cross, but before one does, it is necessary to say, forgive them for they know not what they do. |
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ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 7:54 AM
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I think one thing I've gotten from this is that I'm too forgiving. I should expect to be lied to and cheated on because the problem is me. Am I right?
"Buy the ticket, take the ride." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502707
10/1/2008 8:02 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
I think one thing I've gotten from this is that I'm too forgiving. I should expect to be lied to and cheated on because the problem is me. Am I right? Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
No, it isn't your problem mate, it's theirs, you have to forgive them for THEIR problems, and more importantly forgive yourself.
Very Wise words from the post above, i'll quote it because it's good advice.
One needs to come off their cross, but before one does, it is necessary to say, forgive them for they know not what they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 240980 |
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ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 8:16 AM
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No, it isn't your problem mate, it's theirs, you have to forgive them for THEIR problems, and more importantly forgive yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502707
That's definitely something I can do starting now. I will work on that.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride." |
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HannibalTheCannibal
User ID: 508943
10/1/2008 8:17 AM
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My mother abandoned me when I was an infant
My aunt abused me as a child
My first love lied and made a fool of me
My wife cheated and took my daughter away
Friends tell me I'd be better off dead
All of the girls in my life have caused so much misery
I guess it's all in my head Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
This is a man of experience.
There is NO PROFIT IN PEACE, There is NO PROPHET IN PEACE.
Resident GLP Religion HATER and PROUD Atheist.
Carl Sagan "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514820
10/1/2008 8:35 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
My mother abandoned me when I was an infant
My aunt abused me as a child
My first love lied and made a fool of me
My wife cheated and took my daughter away
Friends tell me I'd be better off dead
All of the girls in my life have caused so much misery
I guess it's all in my head Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
You have had the misfortune to cross paths with not nice women to say the least. You have to remember not all women are like that, try to look on the bright side if you can, to the future. That things can only get better, and that they WILL get better.
I'd not listen to the comments of your 'supportive' friends either!!
Good luck to you and may God bless you :) |
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Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 9:34 AM
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I think one thing I've gotten from this is that I'm too forgiving. I should expect to be lied to and cheated on because the problem is me. Am I right? Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
What comes accros clearly to me is That you dont or wont express anger.. if you do its only done mildly!!!! Also would it be fair to say you blame yourself and are trusting for all that has happened to a certain extent. Interestingly the other poster here with a simmilar situation, has a completly polarized proccess. You may well find benefits in you both talking together....
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic |
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Scully
User ID: 509614
10/1/2008 9:48 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
I think one thing I've gotten from this is that I'm too forgiving. I should expect to be lied to and cheated on because the problem is me. Am I right? Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
No...I think you dont realise that having children can be very difficult. Staying or being inlove with someone who plays victim is nearly impossible.
Your mother may have problems with her own situation (have you found out what that was yet...baby blues, mental condition, wasnt married or too young and couldnt cope?) or it could have been just you.
Sometimes babies are not sweetness and light...they cry all night, they are inconsolable, they are not cuddly, they have so many to reject and fuss that mother abandentment is the wisest choice given the alternative may be death to the infant.
Your aunt took you on.....maybe it was with reluctance or maybe you as an infant drove her to distraction too?
Your first love lied and made a fool of you. First loves often lie because they no longer love but dont know how to tell you....as you were already displaying scary/needy features of a victim.
Your wife tried harder and stayed longer but those victim features got the better of her too...she took your daughter because you probably showed major instability.
Stop blaming everyone else in your life. You've had a rough trot. Its sad but women arent to blame......your father is for allowing mom to get pregnant, not being around and supportive. If your father was always in your life mom may not have been overwhelmed.
Your friends only feel you'd bebetter off dead because you dont exude life/vitality and love. Maybe its time you started placing the blame on daddy.....and realising that circumstances are never what they seem. You can make up new rules for your life...ie by not being bitter. You are still alive so change it...become the person who had it all (life/food....you are still here after all (many third world country kids dont have anything at all PLUS disabilities) but is temporarily jaded. |
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Poe 
User ID: 284011
10/1/2008 9:51 AM
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My mother abandoned me when I was an infant
My aunt abused me as a child
My first love lied and made a fool of me
My wife cheated and took my daughter away
Friends tell me I'd be better off dead
All of the girls in my life have caused so much misery
I guess it's all in my head Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
Common denominator = YOU
“Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.”
~ Charlotte Whitton |
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Cunning_linguist
User ID: 509714
10/1/2008 10:03 AM
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Dude,
It's not in your head...
I think chicks are basically evil.
I've seen my mother flat out lie to my father to get me in trouble.
I had a girlfriend try to run me over with her car cause she was pissed about the hours I was working.
I caught a fiancee' fucking another guy and she tried to blame it on me.
Here's what you have to do!!!!
(I no longer believe what I am about to type, but this viewpoint did help me overcome a difficult time)
After my dis-heartening experiences, I started giving women the respect they deserved. I treated each and every woman like nothing more than a vagina life support system... That's it.
And the funny thing is, it worked. I got more sex and wild experiences than I could ever imagine. Strange isn't it???
The thing that changed me back to the "good guy team" was my wanting to have children. Of the women I slept with not one of them was worthy of carrying my child. My exploits had pulled me out of a depression and I was mentally prepared to find the right girl and to meet her on level ground. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 426194
10/1/2008 10:06 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
My friend, only the first two on that list are things that you had pretty much NO control over.
Work on yourself and quit letting PEOPLE walk over you.
Quit thinking about women as a potential for harm. Instead think about them as other people - individuals.
Get strong in yourself. What some people call "humble" (humility) CAN be a weakness. True humility is an ACCURATE understanding of who you are in the scheme of things. It is not a complete devaluation of self.
Forget about women for a while. Stop thinking about how much of a victim you are and begin to evaluate yourself and your own belief structure FOR REAL.
My guess is that you keep seeking out women with personalities like your mom and your aunt, subconciously thinking that this time will be different, because you're going to change it...
You're not going to change it. Jerks are jerks - male or female, and you cannot control other people. You need to FIX YOURSELF, because you have been damaged...then surround yourself with better people, male and female. |
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Cunning_linguist
User ID: 509714
10/1/2008 10:08 AM
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I think one thing I've gotten from this is that I'm too forgiving. I should expect to be lied to and cheated on because the problem is me. Am I right? Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
You need not care... it IS NOT YOU... Blame womens lib and sex in the city.
Don't expect
Don't care
Be a dick
You should cheat on her
Get yours
Wear a condom
There is plenty of time to experience life and to settle down later on.
I swear to you, the less you care... the more they do?
Women and men are basically opposites. |
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Sireen-reborn
User ID: 513134
10/1/2008 10:09 AM
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My mother abandoned me when I was an infant
My aunt abused me as a child
My first love lied and made a fool of me
My wife cheated and took my daughter away
Friends tell me I'd be better off dead
All of the girls in my life have caused so much misery
I guess it's all in my head Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
I'm sorry, how heartbreaking.
anything after 'but' is bullshit!
[link to www.myspace.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 509464
10/1/2008 10:12 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
This thread makes me feel like a hideous beast that should be hiding in a cave eating babies and the still beating hearts of "honest" men.Fuck I don't think feminazis have anything on you "iv'e been scarred" men. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513367
10/1/2008 10:19 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
My mother abandoned me when I was an infant
My aunt abused me as a child
My first love lied and made a fool of me
My wife cheated and took my daughter away
Friends tell me I'd be better off dead
All of the girls in my life have caused so much misery
I guess it's all in my head Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus
OP I am truly sorry for your suffering it seems you have been treated unfairly in this life. My life has been VERY similar to yours and I could EASILY change the caption to MEN have caused all my problems.. but I wont do that. I, instead, choose to let it go and move on. It is VERY easy to focus on misery overlooking the GIFTS buried in the pain. Within every tear we shed there is a lesson to be learned, we just have to SEE it and by SEEING it we very often discover the TRUTH. The TRUE measure of a human being is what action they take in the face of adversity. One can let pain make them bitter and twisted, one can give up or one can stand up tall and keep their integrity intact....I believe that integrity and the LOVE we share with others is ALL we really have.....its all we own and all that be taken with with us when we leave this life. From what you are saying in this thread it seems to me that you have your integrity intact. That SHOULD be the greatest comfort to you of all! |
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Sinanju
User ID: 511173
10/1/2008 10:26 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
Cunning linguist said it best. Treat them as vagina life support systems... everytime I treat a woman, other than a relative, with respect.. they turn into totally controlling and dishonest bitches.
Treat them like the deserve to be treated.
In their own eyes they are both Queens and whores... they look in the mirror and see Queen... they look in their heart and see Whore...
Treat them like the whore... and they will act like one... treat them like the Queen and they will try to rule over you until they find their next prince.
And get a dog, a dog will always love you with all its heart.... day in and day out. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513367
10/1/2008 10:29 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
Cunning linguist said it best. Treat them as vagina life support systems... everytime I treat a woman, other than a relative, with respect.. they turn into totally controlling and dishonest bitches.
Treat them like the deserve to be treated.
In their own eyes they are both Queens and whores... they look in the mirror and see Queen... they look in their heart and see Whore...
Treat them like the whore... and they will act like one... treat them like the Queen and they will try to rule over you until they find their next prince.
And get a dog, a dog will always love you with all its heart.... day in and day out. Quoting: Sinanju 511173
How completely TWISTED of you. You should be ashamed of yourself spouting such poison! |
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Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 10:44 AM
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How completely TWISTED of you. You should be ashamed of yourself spouting such poison! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 513367
Ok Time to put the "cynical Realist" hat back on... Good morning USA i see you are all waking up.
I dont mean you though AC 513367 you are sensible, Not like these so called "MEN" sperm dispensers!!
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic |
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ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 10:49 AM
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I'm sitting here reading these comments and assessing things up until this point. A few thoughts...
It's true some of what has happened to me I did have control over, others not so much. I couldn't help the situation I was born into or my environment. I carried that through into adulthood. I made some bad choices in relationships. I think I subconsciously started seeking out people and situations I knew would be chaotic and unstable. Why? I have no idea. It's certainly not what I really desired.
As I matured, I tended to view women as cruel and willing to take off at the drop of a hat whenever things got rough. Not that I necessarily believe that. I really try not to see myself as a victim and that's not the image I like to portray to others. Nobody likes a victim, it's true, and I realize some have it a lot worse than I do. In my life, I don't complain generally to anyone. I keep a lot of shit in and I think most around me wouldn't think I minded or "took it well" when it comes to rough stretches. Problems come when the stuff I buried and thought forgotten tends to come out at the most inopportune moments and takes people by surprise when I project it out. Some have deserved it, others have not.
I know I have a lot to work on. The only thing I can control at this point is myself. Again, the point of this thread is not to bash women, I'm just looking for some helpful advice and many of you have come through. I thank you.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 509464
10/1/2008 11:00 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
Im wondering if anyone would have warned you fellows of what kind of mess these kind of women were going to cause you would you have listened? Right now im trying to save a dear male friend of mine from vaginal doom,he has moved an 18 year old girl "he is 26" into his home.This girl has no drivers license since she dropped out of high school,insulin dependent diabetes from poor life choices,gets off sexually on trying to get him to fight other men,and insists on the bareback ride.I try to warn the dummy but he just waddles down the road to im fucked ville full speed.So how do you convince someone who has gone temporarily retarded to put on the brakes before he kills his humanity? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508943
10/1/2008 11:03 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
Dude,
It's not in your head...
I think chicks are basically evil.
I've seen my mother flat out lie to my father to get me in trouble.
I had a girlfriend try to run me over with her car cause she was pissed about the hours I was working.
I caught a fiancee' fucking another guy and she tried to blame it on me. Quoting: Cunning_linguist
Its not all women, but yes it seems as if a large majority are like that.
Its mind fuck city, 5 times a day. |
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HannibalTheCannibal
User ID: 508943
10/1/2008 11:04 AM
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That was me.
Forgot to log in.
There is NO PROFIT IN PEACE, There is NO PROPHET IN PEACE.
Resident GLP Religion HATER and PROUD Atheist.
Carl Sagan "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480936
10/1/2008 11:12 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
Yeah, I blame women for most of the problems I've had to as far as the relationship crap goes-the rest of the worlds problems I blame on the elites and pretty much any greedy fucker with any say so-also dumbfucks (proper noun) and shitheads! Oh yeah the effeminate fucks need to be put down as well. We need to take the vote back from women and reinstitute slavery for the dumb, arrogant, greedy and powerful (the last group needing a daily bitch slap and ass kicking). |
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Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 11:12 AM
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How about a "MEN have caused all my problems" thread..... I bet there would be a shed load more "clients" on that.
Im sure there would be a lady to oblige on that one.
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306964
10/1/2008 11:20 AM | | Re: Women have caused all my problems | Quote |
WOW. DO ANY OF THE 'MEN' ON THIS THREAD HAVE A PENIS? |
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