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Women have caused all my problems

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Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:22 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"in essence i see you as a good person..."

>>I told you I was complicated.
 Quoting: Sinanju 511173

:) you are telling yourself that.... EVERYONE has that privelage me included
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/1/2008 5:23 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

>>Oh, grow up Guru-boy... most of us here had mothers who loved us unconditionally.

Are you sure about that? Most people were probably told that but the reality of it is very different for alot of people.
 Quoting: Poe


After my father died my mother really debunked alot of myths I held about him.

I idolized him and put him on a pedastal, he was a pillar of super human strength right into my middle age.

But after he died, my mother told me that she was pissed off when he told her he didnt want to deal with me, that she should do all the work raising me.

Well, I was kind of shocked...

What an asshole!

But it made me realize that he was, afterall, only human and not such a demi God as I had assumed. I am much more realistic about him and have matured in discussions of him with my older sisters.

Better to have a Pop with faults then a flawless Godlike creature. Believe me,,,
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 515171
10/1/2008 5:23 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"Sounds like another "Player" to me ... Can't be loyal to one woman."

>>Ha! I was loyal for nearly ten years total... but you are right.. I am pretty much a player now. But I don't sleep around... I COULD... but I don't.

Well... to be honest...

I use President Clintoon's definition of sex....


I'm a one woman woman myself ... I would never cheat.

I can't it just isn't in my nature.

Would the exeption be a man??......


Umm no I don't do boys anymore ... I was cured! lmao
 Quoting: NikkiLaVey


hahahah - again you make me wish I was female - I think I luv u NikkiLaVey!
Sinanju
User ID: 511173
10/1/2008 5:24 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"That (almost) made me cry. Emotionally crippling it is - being hated by so many is emotionally crippling."

>>Disagreeing with... feeling disgusted by... annoyed by... even 'tolerated'(look up the word) are NOT the same thing as HATE.

Hate is personal and rarely applied to a group.

Words are your friends, don't fucking abuse them pillow-biter.
NikkiLaVey Subscriber
User ID: 272356
10/1/2008 5:24 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

Just be glad you're not gay. Talk about being emotionally crippled.


That (almost) made me cry. Emotionally crippling it is - being hated by so many is emotionally crippling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515171


Oh I got use to people hating me because my life was outside the mainstream so to speak ... Their loss not mine!
If we don't help each other who will

Dream the Good Dream,

Nikki
Sinanju
User ID: 511173
10/1/2008 5:27 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"you are telling yourself that.... "

>>No, I am relating to you how others around me describe me. To myself, I am simple. The problem is that MY simple is YOUR complicated.

(by the by, one of my martial arts instructors does the dame job as you... and he hasn't 'cracked' me yet... please save yourself the trouble... I will have you doubting your beliefs in a jiffy. You will be working in a jelly factory before this whole exchange is over with)
NikkiLaVey Subscriber
User ID: 272356
10/1/2008 5:27 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"Sounds like another "Player" to me ... Can't be loyal to one woman."

>>Ha! I was loyal for nearly ten years total... but you are right.. I am pretty much a player now. But I don't sleep around... I COULD... but I don't.

Well... to be honest...

I use President Clintoon's definition of sex....


I'm a one woman woman myself ... I would never cheat.

I can't it just isn't in my nature.

Would the exeption be a man??......


Umm no I don't do boys anymore ... I was cured! lmao


hahahah - again you make me wish I was female - I think I luv u NikkiLaVey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515171


Dear if I wasn't with someone who knows you would have an equal shot.

Maybe think about Sexual Reassignment Surgery wink lmao
If we don't help each other who will

Dream the Good Dream,

Nikki
Sinanju
User ID: 511173
10/1/2008 5:29 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"Dear if I wasn't with someone who knows you would have an equal shot.

Maybe think about Sexual Reassignment Surgery"

>>What was that word you used again?



Oh... yeah.... 'shallow'
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:32 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"you are telling yourself that.... "

>>No, I am relating to you how others around me describe me. To myself, I am simple. The problem is that MY simple is YOUR complicated.

(by the by, one of my martial arts instructors does the dame job as you... and he hasn't 'cracked' me yet... please save yourself the trouble... I will have you doubting your beliefs in a jiffy. You will be working in a jelly factory before this whole exchange is over with)
 Quoting: Sinanju 511173


Well to have me doubting my beliefs.... you would need to what mine are.... Cracked... thats for Christmas time when i want some nuts... You?? youre no trouble.... but then i think... Trouble is a subjective word!!!
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
NikkiLaVey Subscriber
User ID: 272356
10/1/2008 5:34 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"Dear if I wasn't with someone who knows you would have an equal shot.

Maybe think about Sexual Reassignment Surgery"

>>What was that word you used again?

Oh... yeah.... 'shallow'
 Quoting: Sinanju 511173


No Darlin' I was being funny.

This person appears to be nice so I joked with him.
If we don't help each other who will

Dream the Good Dream,

Nikki
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:35 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

Octupus.... I will bump your thread tomorrow..
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 5:37 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I'm still here. Not for long though. Time to put all this advice into practice.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:38 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I'm still here. Not for long though. Time to put all this advice into practice.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus

You want to run this for a few days??
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 5:39 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I've got what I needed from it.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
NikkiLaVey Subscriber
User ID: 272356
10/1/2008 5:41 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I've got what I needed from it.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus


Good now go out and fine yourself a good caring woman.
If we don't help each other who will

Dream the Good Dream,

Nikki
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:42 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I've got what I needed from it.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus

ok thats good...... youl see "Cynic" floating around somewhere.... i always have time.
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:43 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

Can i put my CYNICS hat back on pls??? laugh
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
ObeyTheOctopus
User ID: 452708
10/1/2008 5:45 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

ok thats good...... youl see "Cynic" floating around somewhere.... i always have time.
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


Thanks Cynic, Nikki, Sinanju, and all the rest of you. Even the bashers. I feel much better now.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
NikkiLaVey Subscriber
User ID: 272356
10/1/2008 5:46 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

ok thats good...... youl see "Cynic" floating around somewhere.... i always have time.


Thanks Cynic, Nikki, Sinanju, and all the rest of you. Even the bashers. I feel much better now.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus


Honey I'm glad I helped.
If we don't help each other who will

Dream the Good Dream,

Nikki
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 240980
10/1/2008 5:51 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

You are a decent, gracious,and sensitive man Octy. It took Balls to do what you did on a public forum, you got 'em.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 510300
10/1/2008 5:54 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

"How are you complicated?"

>>Hyper-intelligent, tall dark and handsome, charismatic, opinionated, correct, party like a rockstar, insomniac, antagonistic, hedonistic, strict code of honor, psuedo-death wish....

Voted most likely to become a superhero by the International Martial Arts Association!

Basically bad news.
 Quoting: Sinanju 511173


But your politics stinks....
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 5:58 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

You are a decent, gracious,and sensitive man Octy. It took Balls to do what you did on a public forum, you got 'em.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 240980

Thats called a MAN in any language
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 6:00 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

Oi... nikki you still here??
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
OneAngryMom Subscriber
User ID: 506709
10/1/2008 6:17 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

OTO...

looks like I'm at the tail end of anything here.....NINE PAGES...WOW....sounds like you've had a rough go, and for that I'm sorry.....

I don't know if you're the kind of person who can gain a bit from a good sense of humor or not......but this one is one of the old ones in the book......

EVERYONE feels like the world is against them sometimes....and this one is to music! Sometimes, I suppose, if we learn to laugh at ourselves.....we find some way through tough times....

I had a pretty weird mom, too....but my dad was a prize! Somehow he found a way to cure what ailed me most all of my growing up years, through the novelty of Broadway musicals. It worked for me!

If it's inappropriate for your particular ailment...my sincerest apologies....I mean no harm.

Cynical Realist
User ID: 513516
10/1/2008 6:19 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

 Quoting: OneAngryMom


Why are you an angry mom...... only kidding :)
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352356
10/1/2008 7:17 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

That is shocking.

But you have to understand that's in your past. The only thing from your past with you now are the bad memories and the bad behaviour.

You can't change your memories, so decide to make good memories for yourself from now on by making your relationship with women from now on good relationships.

You CAN change your behaviour. Right now it reads like you are weak and you expect unrealistic strenght, logic and emotional stability from women.

That is not women to blame. That's you, my friend. You need to become strong. And to do that, you need to become a man. Right now you are still an abused child in your behaviour. You need to become a man.


He is a man irespective of the past... This sort of stuff NEEDS to come out, not locked away in a cupboard. This is part of the problem.... BE A MAN... god how many times does he hear that.... nope and with total respect... he knows he is a MAN, Solutions are many and complex.... but it starts with understanding yourself 1st from a emotional standpoint not nessesarly from a testostorne veiw point.
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


Yeah, I agree but only to the point of knowing that he's the problem. Moving on with life isn't about "repression". That Freudian psycho babble is nonsense. Countless hours sitting on a couch talking about the past doesn't achieve any forward movement.

The bottom line is that you are not living in the past, you are living now. The Freudian notion of "repression" is nonsense. Yes, go back to your memories. Yes, if there are things that you don't understand, think about them and try to resolve them if that's possible but keep the balance. Keep the perspective.

Freud was way out of balance. He taught psychiatrists that the past is all important. That means that psychiatrists taught very negative behaviour in their patients by teaching them to live in the past, placing way too much emphasis on the past and giving the past way too much power over the present.

Patients simply did not learn to move on. Life is about what's here right now. The way people respond to you is now, not back in the past. Their bahaviour towards you is based on your PRESENT behaviour towards them. What happened 20 years ago before they knew you has no bearing on their current behaviour towards you. It's what you draw out of them and who you draw close to that affects who does what to you both in their behaviour and who does it.

The point is that Freud hoped that sorting out "unresolved issues" would improve life in the present. But that's crap. You change your life now and the only time that looking back has any value is if something from back then is still bugging you in terms of "why did that happen?" or more importantly "how can I learn from that?".

I.e. the past is only relevant in that it affects your behaviour now both in what you learnt and possibly unresolved issues.

But how you behave now, how your think now... albeit an accumulation of where you came from, it's up to you in the present to change that in the present.

If you think negatively, retrain yourself to think postively.
If you encourage abuse by being a victim, retrain yourself to be more dominant.
If you are running away, no matter how subtle or how convoluted and indirect that running away is, train yourself to stop, turn around, stand your ground and face the present right here, right now.

Freud did none of that. He taught hankering after the past in the hope that some magical silver bullet will correct everything in the present. He was wrong. Plain and simple. Wrong. There were a few specific instances where sorting out "unresolved issues" worked but the problem is that teaching people to live in the past removes from them modifying their present behaviour and attitudes.

I.e. it prolongs the pain.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 397214
10/1/2008 9:43 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

In a nutshell guys to "pull" the ultimate woman... you will need a dysfunctional willie and a white head of hair on the old "mountain top" And then when you get her you cant do bugger all with it. But as AC 509464 ipmlies.... at least you are empathicaly in tune!!
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


But who the hell wants to wind up with some menopausal withered old bag who will sit around on the porch and regale you with stories of all the hot loser guys she got fucked & chucked by when she was young and attractive? What kind of old queer wants to be "empathatic" with someone like that in their old age? Better just to live alone with a quiet dog for company, not some old douchebag who slutted her youth away.

In short - Women are fucking worthless.
j_stevens0n
User ID: 494292
10/1/2008 9:55 PM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

I'd go to the library. Books are funner than people anyway. If that fails, try anti-depressants.
terces
User ID: 517860
10/5/2008 7:30 AM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

just kill yourself


I will never let them win.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus

but u can not battle with some of them already
Witness_ Subscriber
User ID: 354007
10/7/2008 6:20 AM
Re: Women have caused all my problemsQuote

How is it working out? Octo?
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