I think its funny that some people are talking about actual 4 legged antlered animals and others are talking about a different deer.....
Yeah...Aristocratic deer are best.
Quoting: markusmaximus
Smith is "Jack of all trades master of none." By the way.
Altantean Aristocrats?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:08 am
Personanongrata wrote:
Does the atlantean aristocat find our company too vulgar? Embarassed
Just kidding. I hope you're well. Sad
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The Atlantean Aristocrats have suffered the yoke of Silas' war long enough. Prisoners of Puck's date rape cocktail firewater Empire. Not only language, but morals fell, with the tower and only the Atlantean Aristocrats are society's vulgar lepers of self will run riot.
Very creative controlling Puck, yet so much lady whenchpeck protest provides Shakespearean irony, and implies something more than simply invalidating a "nothing."
I think its funny that some people are talking about actual 4 legged antlered animals and others are talking about a different deer.....
Yeah...Aristocratic deer are best.
Smith is "Jack of all trades master of none." By the way.
Altantean Aristocrats?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:08 am
Personanongrata wrote:
Does the atlantean aristocat find our company too vulgar? Embarassed
Just kidding. I hope you're well. Sad
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The Atlantean Aristocrats have suffered the yoke of Silas' war long enough. Prisoners of Puck's date rape cocktail firewater Empire. Not only language, but morals fell, with the tower and only the Atlantean Aristocrats are society's vulgar lepers of self will run riot.
Very creative controlling Puck, yet so much lady whenchpeck protest provides Shakespearean irony, and implies something more than simply invalidating a "nothing."
Triggers get jammed, planets tilted off axis. If they ascribe to social Darwinism, it makes them animals. Souls for fuel.
Climb, that dogpile of deception until he's king of the pill - good demonstration of the similarity between simian and bacterial aggregate like critical mass.
matrix programming User ID: 437387 10/3/2008 11:09 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
The M82A1 SASR isn't the only weapon of its type which can pierce the armor of an APC causing it to explode in flame, with a single shot.
Interesting...
I was reading about some rifles which have the ability to tear through even the ENGINE COMPARTMENT of vehicles...
Obviously, that's excessive for deer hunting but I had no idea there were rifles that powerful. I guess that'd blow a deer in two, huh?
Quoting: markusmaximus
In 1973 my notorcycle was repeatedly rammed from behind by a Dodge while traveling on an interstate.
Third attempt, I fired Canadian surplus 9mm full metal jacket slugs into their car, from a Browning HP. Shots hit through radiator,into engine block, and into windshield.
It penetrated the engine block enough to stop it.
I turned myself into a Highway Patrolman next rest stop and reported the incident.
Obeying the law is what has kept me out of jail these many years.
I shall not break the law now , and encourage all others to obey the law.
Use a firearm only as a last resort, in defense.
Tell cops the truth, cooperate with investigations.
It works for me.
fluffy stew pot bunny User ID: 437387 10/3/2008 11:20 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
And oh yeah, free speech only works if you use it.
Don't be afraid, or you've already lost.
Quoting: markusmaximus
i would make sure if laws of "intent to harm" are protected by the right of free speech. remember simply saying that you wanted a president or other high ranking government official to accept a high velocity projectile will land you in federal jail. talking about deer and armadillos will fool no one. i am not condoning nor objecting to the subject at hand. i am simply adding my two cents in hope that people don't screw themselves.
Sirius User ID: 437387 10/4/2008 1:16 AM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
And oh yeah, free speech only works if you use it.
Don't be afraid, or you've already lost.
i would make sure if laws of "intent to harm" are protected by the right of free speech. remember simply saying that you wanted a president or other high ranking government official to accept a high velocity projectile will land you in federal jail. talking about deer and armadillos will fool no one. i am not condoning nor objecting to the subject at hand. i am simply adding my two cents in hope that people don't screw themselves.
Quoting: Alpha Female
Markus of the noms de plume multiplicity cluster Puck is busy self immolating.
Perhaps he did have a conscience after all?
It's OK, they're only witch burning the cow, Madame Bovine, with antlers now.
whatever User ID: 437387 10/4/2008 1:20 AM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
I think its funny that some people are talking about actual 4 legged antlered animals and others are talking about a different deer.....
Yeah...Aristocratic deer are best.
Quoting: markusmaximus
"Alpha female" is that like susano's "queen of the dogpile?" Has a larger corpus collosum, and more evolved verbal centers of the brain.
Puck looks to them for direction in the manipulations and feels women often get their way - he hates the hyper religiosity in his mother that almost gave him anorexia as a child.
Hyper religiosity is a form of addiction, one can see he was inculcated to Nixon's 'war on human rights.'
Aggregate like is bacteria's survival tool.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 408521 10/4/2008 8:11 AM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
She down on the corner, just a little crime.
When I make my money, got to get my dime.
She down with her baby, wind is full of trash.
She bold as a streetlight, dark and sweet as hash.
Way down in the hollow, leavin' so soon.
Oh, St. Teresa, higher than the moon.
Reach down for the sweet stuff, way she looks at me.
I know any man sees you like I see.
Follow down the side street, move in single file.
She said, "That's where I'll hold you, sleepin' like a child."
Way down in the hollow, leavin' so soon.
Oh, St. Teresa, higher than the moon.
Just what I been needin', feel it rise in me.
She said, "Every stone a story, like a rosary."
Corner St. Teresa, just a little crime.
When I make my money, got to get my dime.
Way down in the hollow, leavin' so soon.
Oh, St. Teresa, higher than the moon.
You crawled up in the sky.
You crawled up in the clouds.
Is there something you forgot to tell me,
tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me?
Show me, my Teresa, feel it rise in me.
Every stone a story, like a rosary
there is no more truly free speech sir.... careful what you say...
I dont think anyone will discuss this with you because of that.
What? We can't discuss hunting?
I mean, if I wanted to bag a deer from, say, up-to and including 1 mile, what would I use?
Quoting: markusmaximus
You'd need a .50 to do that.
The smaller traditional calibers such as .30-06 are good for accuracy to about a quarter mile and that's if you are VERY good.
I've heard of accurate shots being taken with a .50 from between 2000-3000 meters.
In fact some sniper teams had a kit they could attach to a .50 caliber machine gun to take single shots. They would use it on any .50 cal in their location.
If you've never actually seen a .50 caliber round, once you do and compare it to a .30-06 you will realize why it's so much more powerfull.
la petite User ID: 437387 10/5/2008 10:00 AM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
I think its funny that some people are talking about actual 4 legged antlered animals and others are talking about a different deer.....
Yeah...Aristocratic deer are best.
Quoting: markusmaximus
Is it so bad, to want to live, in spite of being slightly different? Must they exterminate me, simply on the grounds of clearing conscience? 'Some things are worse than dying.' Says Master Puck, fearing the languish in slave barrens.
2 best long range heavy hitting sniper rounds IMO, without getting too exotic, are the .300 WinMag and the 7mm mag....both you need to be able to shoot fairly well to handle and both are about dead flat at 250 yards....they can be a bit of overkill for an average deer, but they will knock down just about anything at 300 yards....which is a long shot if you aren't an experienced shooter, no matter what anyone tells you.
Next step down I would put the 30-06, 7.62x54 (pretty much a .308) and the .270 as next best choices. 30-06 and 7.62 have the bullet weight and hit a bit harder, .270 shoots flatter, all very capable of taking a deer out to a few hundred yards....30-06 and .308 are probably more available than all the rest, but they are also more popular, so if TSHF, even though there is more to start, they might go first, so really hard to make to give any one caliber the edge there IMO, none of them are all that exotic that they would be too hard to find.
30-30 is a good deer rifle, 7.62x39 (SKS-AK) is pretty good too, but you'll need to be say bout 100-200 yards or so be effective with one. I don't really care for the lighter weight rounds as a "Sniper Rifle", but really any rifle you put a round down range on target with would work as one, depends what you want to do with it as well....if you want to take game at a distance, well you don't want to shred it and you want your bullet to penetrate your prey to vital organs, heavier high velocity round is better for that.
If you want to take out Rambo before he can launch an exploding arrow at you or sneak up behind you and snap your neck, then you don't really care if your bullet is light and real zippy fast and goes in his shoulder and pops out his eye, you just want him dead, so a .223 is fine for that, unless a twig or a drop of rain hits it on the way, or it's windy, or a multitude of other conditions interfere with your bullet's trajectory. That's why real snipers use a fairly heavy high velocity round.
As far as Deer Rambo'ing goes, my cousin took a Deer with a staple gun once, took him 9 years and the deer was all rusty by the time it finally went down and had 150lbs of staples in it......:)
Animals are pretty tough...they lead harder lives than humans do for the most part. Most also have several weapons built into them, of varying degrees of nastiness. Unlike human beings they won't be thinking about your feelings before they die trying to skewer or rip your guts out either. There probably are some badass who could get up on a boar hog with a knife and take it down, but there are far more that would need a lot of stitches and a few bones set afterward. Common sense will save your ass before being successful at living some movie cliché will every time. ____________________________________________________
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Faces shine a deadly smile, back up on you at your trial
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Phennommennonn The Queen Of Mean User ID: 476887 10/5/2008 12:50 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
ive only shot a rifle once 25 yrs ago, and ashamed to say i blackened my eye, - was to close to the scope, and ended up on my ass some 5 feet back. ill leave the guns/ammo to the men. (for now; but if there comes a time for me to use it, then...out of my way, cant guarantee ill hit my target) ~Galatians 4:16
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
~“In the Communist world, we see failure, technological backwardness, declining standards of health, even want of the most basic kind -- too little food. Even today, the Soviet Union still cannot feed itself. . . . East and West do not distrust each other because we are armed; we are armed because we distrust each other. And our differences are not about weapons but about liberty. . . . The most fundamental distinction of all between East and West is that the totalitarian world produces backwardness because it does such violence to the spirit, thwarting the human impulse to create, to enjoy, to worship. The totalitarian world finds even symbols of love and of worship an affront.” Ronald Reagan
SHR gave excellent advice. I would add if you want a serious long range heavy hitting sniper rifle go with the .338 lapua.
I have a 375H&H that also works well, couldn't pass up the price at the time.... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 495098 10/5/2008 1:50 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
300 Win Mag. 98 Mauser frame. Custom chromemally barrel and remachined action and modern bolt. Wood stock with recoil pad and full floated forearm. Leupold 4 x 15 scope. Hand load 165 grain boatail match bullet.
ive only shot a rifle once 25 yrs ago, and ashamed to say i blackened my eye, - was to close to the scope, and ended up on my ass some 5 feet back. ill leave the guns/ammo to the men. (for now; but if there comes a time for me to use it, then...out of my way, cant guarantee ill hit my target)
Quoting: Phennommennonn
don't let one bad experience sway you, odds are you were not given proper instruction before you shot, i know several women that can shoot as good as any man i know
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 495098 10/5/2008 4:49 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
300 Win Mag. 98 Mauser frame. Custom chromemally barrel and remachined action and modern bolt. Wood stock with recoil pad and full floated forearm. Leupold 4 x 15 scope. Hand load 165 grain boatail match bullet.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476627
Pic???
Anonymous Coward User ID: 518190 10/5/2008 4:52 PM
Re: Let's Get Serious: I Think It's Time To Talk SNIPER RIFLES.
ive only shot a rifle once 25 yrs ago, and ashamed to say i blackened my eye, - was to close to the scope, and ended up on my ass some 5 feet back. ill leave the guns/ammo to the men. (for now; but if there comes a time for me to use it, then...out of my way, cant guarantee ill hit my target)
don't let one bad experience sway you, odds are you were not given proper instruction before you shot, i know several women that can shoot as good as any man i know
Quoting: malu
She's jerking the trigger...Cant Hit Sh*t.
(1) Take three deep breaths thru the nose.
(2) exhale 1/2 of the third breath and hold cross hairs.
(3) SQUEEZE ! the trigger slowly.
The actuall shot should surprise the shooter when it goes off.
Infact! the more surprised you are when the rifle goes off, the better the shot will be.
Now all you need to know is projectile performance at certain ranges and wind direction and speed.
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